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“Conspiracy theorists and ordinary doubters often mention the press conference held by the Apollo 11 astronauts after returning from the Moon, noting how their expressions are once again gloomy and seem to betray unease. The astronauts utter their words very slowly, with an almost flat tone, as if they were speaking grudgingly. This, it is claimed, is evidence that they are lying uncomfortably.
Actually, if you watch the entire press conference (Figure 9.1-7) instead of just its first few minutes, it becomes evident that the three astronauts gradually relax and become more at ease while still choosing their words very carefully. There are many moments of laughter, smiles and outright jokes despite the pressure of it being their first press conference after their historic trip. Here’s an example from 37:53 in the video of Figure 9.1-8:
In other words, the gloomy still image shown by conspiracy theorists has been intentionally selected to give the wrong impression that the astronauts were deeply uneasy. Figure 9.1-9 is a different still from that same press conference: all three astronauts are smiling. Figure 9.1-10 is a sampling of some of the quips and jokes that the Apollo 11 astronauts made during the press conference.
Nevertheless, it has to be noted that almost all the Apollo astronauts were test pilots, unaccustomed to the glare of the media spotlight and trained, like all pilots when they have to report on their flight, to speak clearly and precisely, measuring their words. They were also tired not only from the trip to the Moon but also from the subsequent quarantine. They acknowledge their limited media skills even in this post-flight press conference when the discuss the Goodwill Tour that will take them around the world, visiting kings and presidents of many countries.
There’s also another practical aspect to be considered when watching this 1969 press conference with today’s eyes: in those days, portable recorders were rare (only one can be glimpsed in the huge crowd of reporters in the video) and therefore journalists had to write down, sometimes in shorthand, what the astronauts said. The official recording of the event would be released only after it had been duplicated, and this would have taken hours with the analog systems of the period, whereas reporters had to go to press as soon as possible.
Accordingly, the astronauts spoke very clearly and slowly to allow everyone to transcribe correctly and also to choose their words very carefully, since they were quite aware of the great historical importance and of the political sensitivity of everything they said. They were, after all, the first human beings in all of mankind’s history to go to the Moon and back.
Moreover, if Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins had instead been at perfect ease and as cheerful as talk show hosts, moon hoax believers would probably argue that this would prove that they were actors.“ — Moonhoaxdebunked
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“Conspiracy theorists and ordinary doubters often mention the press conference held by the Apollo 11 astronauts after returning from the Moon, noting how their expressions are once again gloomy and seem to betray unease. The astronauts utter their words very slowly, with an almost flat tone, as if they were speaking grudgingly. This, it is claimed, is evidence that they are lying uncomfortably.
Actually, if you watch the entire press conference (Figure 9.1-7) instead of just its first few minutes, it becomes evident that the three astronauts gradually relax and become more at ease while still choosing their words very carefully. There are many moments of laughter, smiles and outright jokes despite the pressure of it being their first press conference after their historic trip. Here’s an example from 37:53 in the video of Figure 9.1-8:
In other words, the gloomy still image shown by conspiracy theorists has been intentionally selected to give the wrong impression that the astronauts were deeply uneasy. Figure 9.1-9 is a different still from that same press conference: all three astronauts are smiling. Figure 9.1-10 is a sampling of some of the quips and jokes that the Apollo 11 astronauts made during the press conference.
Nevertheless, it has to be noted that almost all the Apollo astronauts were test pilots, unaccustomed to the glare of the media spotlight and trained, like all pilots when they have to report on their flight, to speak clearly and precisely, measuring their words. They were also tired not only from the trip to the Moon but also from the subsequent quarantine. They acknowledge their limited media skills even in this post-flight press conference when the discuss the Goodwill Tour that will take them around the world, visiting kings and presidents of many countries.
There’s also another practical aspect to be considered when watching this 1969 press conference with today’s eyes: in those days, portable recorders were rare (only one can be glimpsed in the huge crowd of reporters in the video) and therefore journalists had to write down, sometimes in shorthand, what the astronauts said. The official recording of the event would be released only after it had been duplicated, and this would have taken hours with the analog systems of the period, whereas reporters had to go to press as soon as possible.
Accordingly, the astronauts spoke very clearly and slowly to allow everyone to transcribe correctly and also to choose their words very carefully, since they were quite aware of the great historical importance and of the political sensitivity of everything they said. They were, after all, the first human beings in all of mankind’s history to go to the Moon and back.
Moreover, if Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins had instead been at perfect ease and as cheerful as talk show hosts, moon hoax believers would probably argue that this would prove that they were actors.“ — Moonhoaxdebunked
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“Conspiracy theorists and ordinary doubters often mention the press conference held by the Apollo 11 astronauts after returning from the Moon, noting how their expressions are once again gloomy and seem to betray unease. The astronauts utter their words very slowly, with an almost flat tone, as if they were speaking grudgingly. This, it is claimed, is evidence that they are lying uncomfortably.
Actually, if you watch the entire press conference (Figure 9.1-7) instead of just its first few minutes, it becomes evident that the three astronauts gradually relax and become more at ease while still choosing their words very carefully. There are many moments of laughter, smiles and outright jokes despite the pressure of it being their first press conference after their historic trip. Here’s an example from 37:53 in the video of Figure 9.1-8:
In other words, the gloomy still image shown by conspiracy theorists has been intentionally selected to give the wrong impression that the astronauts were deeply uneasy. Figure 9.1-9 is a different still from that same press conference: all three astronauts are smiling. Figure 9.1-10 is a sampling of some of the quips and jokes that the Apollo 11 astronauts made during the press conference.
Nevertheless, it has to be noted that almost all the Apollo astronauts were test pilots, unaccustomed to the glare of the media spotlight and trained, like all pilots when they have to report on their flight, to speak clearly and precisely, measuring their words. They were also tired not only from the trip to the Moon but also from the subsequent quarantine. They acknowledge their limited media skills even in this post-flight press conference when the discuss the Goodwill Tour that will take them around the world, visiting kings and presidents of many countries.
There’s also another practical aspect to be considered when watching this 1969 press conference with today’s eyes: in those days, portable recorders were rare (only one can be glimpsed in the huge crowd of reporters in the video) and therefore journalists had to write down, sometimes in shorthand, what the astronauts said. The official recording of the event would be released only after it had been duplicated, and this would have taken hours with the analog systems of the period, whereas reporters had to go to press as soon as possible.
Accordingly, the astronauts spoke very clearly and slowly to allow everyone to transcribe correctly and also to choose their words very carefully, since they were quite aware of the great historical importance and of the political sensitivity of everything they said. They were, after all, the first human beings in all of mankind’s history to go to the Moon and back.
Moreover, if Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins had instead been at perfect ease and as cheerful as talk show hosts, moon hoax believers would probably argue that this would prove that they were actors.“ — Moonhoaxdebunked
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“Conspiracy theorists and ordinary doubters often mention the press conference held by the Apollo 11 astronauts after returning from the Moon, noting how their expressions are once again gloomy and seem to betray unease. The astronauts utter their words very slowly, with an almost flat tone, as if they were speaking grudgingly. This, it is claimed, is evidence that they are lying uncomfortably.
Actually, if you watch the entire press conference (Figure 9.1-7) instead of just its first few minutes, it becomes evident that the three astronauts gradually relax and become more at ease while still choosing their words very carefully. There are many moments of laughter, smiles and outright jokes despite the pressure of it being their first press conference after their historic trip. Here’s an example from 37:53 in the video of Figure 9.1-8:
In other words, the gloomy still image shown by conspiracy theorists has been intentionally selected to give the wrong impression that the astronauts were deeply uneasy. Figure 9.1-9 is a different still from that same press conference: all three astronauts are smiling. Figure 9.1-10 is a sampling of some of the quips and jokes that the Apollo 11 astronauts made during the press conference.
Nevertheless, it has to be noted that almost all the Apollo astronauts were test pilots, unaccustomed to the glare of the media spotlight and trained, like all pilots when they have to report on their flight, to speak clearly and precisely, measuring their words. They were also tired not only from the trip to the Moon but also from the subsequent quarantine. They acknowledge their limited media skills even in this post-flight press conference when the discuss the Goodwill Tour that will take them around the world, visiting kings and presidents of many countries.
There’s also another practical aspect to be considered when watching this 1969 press conference with today’s eyes: in those days, portable recorders were rare (only one can be glimpsed in the huge crowd of reporters in the video) and therefore journalists had to write down, sometimes in shorthand, what the astronauts said. The official recording of the event would be released only after it had been duplicated, and this would have taken hours with the analog systems of the period, whereas reporters had to go to press as soon as possible.
Accordingly, the astronauts spoke very clearly and slowly to allow everyone to transcribe correctly and also to choose their words very carefully, since they were quite aware of the great historical importance and of the political sensitivity of everything they said. They were, after all, the first human beings in all of mankind’s history to go to the Moon and back.
Moreover, if Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins had instead been at perfect ease and as cheerful as talk show hosts, moon hoax believers would probably argue that this would prove that they were actors.“ — Moonhoaxdebunked
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“Conspiracy theorists and ordinary doubters often mention the press conference held by the Apollo 11 astronauts after returning from the Moon, noting how their expressions are once again gloomy and seem to betray unease. The astronauts utter their words very slowly, with an almost flat tone, as if they were speaking grudgingly. This, it is claimed, is evidence that they are lying uncomfortably.
Actually, if you watch the entire press conference (Figure 9.1-7) instead of just its first few minutes, it becomes evident that the three astronauts gradually relax and become more at ease while still choosing their words very carefully. There are many moments of laughter, smiles and outright jokes despite the pressure of it being their first press conference after their historic trip. Here’s an example from 37:53 in the video of Figure 9.1-8:
In other words, the gloomy still image shown by conspiracy theorists has been intentionally selected to give the wrong impression that the astronauts were deeply uneasy. Figure 9.1-9 is a different still from that same press conference: all three astronauts are smiling. Figure 9.1-10 is a sampling of some of the quips and jokes that the Apollo 11 astronauts made during the press conference.
Nevertheless, it has to be noted that almost all the Apollo astronauts were test pilots, unaccustomed to the glare of the media spotlight and trained, like all pilots when they have to report on their flight, to speak clearly and precisely, measuring their words. They were also tired not only from the trip to the Moon but also from the subsequent quarantine. They acknowledge their limited media skills even in this post-flight press conference when the discuss the Goodwill Tour that will take them around the world, visiting kings and presidents of many countries.
There’s also another practical aspect to be considered when watching this 1969 press conference with today’s eyes: in those days, portable recorders were rare (only one can be glimpsed in the huge crowd of reporters in the video) and therefore journalists had to write down, sometimes in shorthand, what the astronauts said. The official recording of the event would be released only after it had been duplicated, and this would have taken hours with the analog systems of the period, whereas reporters had to go to press as soon as possible.
Accordingly, the astronauts spoke very clearly and slowly to allow everyone to transcribe correctly and also to choose their words very carefully, since they were quite aware of the great historical importance and of the political sensitivity of everything they said. They were, after all, the first human beings in all of mankind’s history to go to the Moon and back.
Moreover, if Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins had instead been at perfect ease and as cheerful as talk show hosts, moon hoax believers would probably argue that this would prove that they were actors.“ — Moonhoaxdebunked
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“Conspiracy theorists and ordinary doubters often mention the press conference held by the Apollo 11 astronauts after returning from the Moon, noting how their expressions are once again gloomy and seem to betray unease. The astronauts utter their words very slowly, with an almost flat tone, as if they were speaking grudgingly. This, it is claimed, is evidence that they are lying uncomfortably.
Actually, if you watch the entire press conference (Figure 9.1-7) instead of just its first few minutes, it becomes evident that the three astronauts gradually relax and become more at ease while still choosing their words very carefully. There are many moments of laughter, smiles and outright jokes despite the pressure of it being their first press conference after their historic trip. Here’s an example from 37:53 in the video of Figure 9.1-8:
In other words, the gloomy still image shown by conspiracy theorists has been intentionally selected to give the wrong impression that the astronauts were deeply uneasy. Figure 9.1-9 is a different still from that same press conference: all three astronauts are smiling. Figure 9.1-10 is a sampling of some of the quips and jokes that the Apollo 11 astronauts made during the press conference.
Nevertheless, it has to be noted that almost all the Apollo astronauts were test pilots, unaccustomed to the glare of the media spotlight and trained, like all pilots when they have to report on their flight, to speak clearly and precisely, measuring their words. They were also tired not only from the trip to the Moon but also from the subsequent quarantine. They acknowledge their limited media skills even in this post-flight press conference when the discuss the Goodwill Tour that will take them around the world, visiting kings and presidents of many countries.
There’s also another practical aspect to be considered when watching this 1969 press conference with today’s eyes: in those days, portable recorders were rare (only one can be glimpsed in the huge crowd of reporters in the video) and therefore journalists had to write down, sometimes in shorthand, what the astronauts said. The official recording of the event would be released only after it had been duplicated, and this would have taken hours with the analog systems of the period, whereas reporters had to go to press as soon as possible.
Accordingly, the astronauts spoke very clearly and slowly to allow everyone to transcribe correctly and also to choose their words very carefully, since they were quite aware of the great historical importance and of the political sensitivity of everything they said. They were, after all, the first human beings in all of mankind’s history to go to the Moon and back.
Moreover, if Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins had instead been at perfect ease and as cheerful as talk show hosts, moon hoax believers would probably argue that this would prove that they were actors.“ — Moonhoaxdebunked
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“Conspiracy theorists and ordinary doubters often mention the press conference held by the Apollo 11 astronauts after returning from the Moon, noting how their expressions are once again gloomy and seem to betray unease. The astronauts utter their words very slowly, with an almost flat tone, as if they were speaking grudgingly. This, it is claimed, is evidence that they are lying uncomfortably.
Actually, if you watch the entire press conference (Figure 9.1-7) instead of just its first few minutes, it becomes evident that the three astronauts gradually relax and become more at ease while still choosing their words very carefully. There are many moments of laughter, smiles and outright jokes despite the pressure of it being their first press conference after their historic trip. Here’s an example from 37:53 in the video of Figure 9.1-8:
In other words, the gloomy still image shown by conspiracy theorists has been intentionally selected to give the wrong impression that the astronauts were deeply uneasy. Figure 9.1-9 is a different still from that same press conference: all three astronauts are smiling. Figure 9.1-10 is a sampling of some of the quips and jokes that the Apollo 11 astronauts made during the press conference.
Nevertheless, it has to be noted that almost all the Apollo astronauts were test pilots, unaccustomed to the glare of the media spotlight and trained, like all pilots when they have to report on their flight, to speak clearly and precisely, measuring their words. They were also tired not only from the trip to the Moon but also from the subsequent quarantine. They acknowledge their limited media skills even in this post-flight press conference when the discuss the Goodwill Tour that will take them around the world, visiting kings and presidents of many countries.
There’s also another practical aspect to be considered when watching this 1969 press conference with today’s eyes: in those days, portable recorders were rare (only one can be glimpsed in the huge crowd of reporters in the video) and therefore journalists had to write down, sometimes in shorthand, what the astronauts said. The official recording of the event would be released only after it had been duplicated, and this would have taken hours with the analog systems of the period, whereas reporters had to go to press as soon as possible.
Accordingly, the astronauts spoke very clearly and slowly to allow everyone to transcribe correctly and also to choose their words very carefully, since they were quite aware of the great historical importance and of the political sensitivity of everything they said. They were, after all, the first human beings in all of mankind’s history to go to the Moon and back.
Moreover, if Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins had instead been at perfect ease and as cheerful as talk show hosts, moon hoax believers would probably argue that this would prove that they were actors.“ — Moonhoaxdebunked
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@rammalammadingdong1 Proof men walked on the Moon:
1. There are over 8,000 photos available to the public of the Moon landing missions that could not have been faked.
2. There are thousands of hours of video as well.
3. Hundreds of kilograms of lunar material have been studied and verified by astronomers and geologists all over the world, showing chemical signs of originating from the Moon.
4. The LRRR (Laser Retroreflector Arrays) left by Apollo 11 and other subsequent Apollo missions can still be interacted with today using sufficiently powerful lasers from Earth.
5. The SELENE photos show the damage to the lunar surface where we landed the Apollo missions.
6. The Chang’e 2 photos show the lander base.
7. Chandrayaan-2 managed to photograph another Apollo lander base.
8. A group at Kettering Grammar School, using simple radio equipment, monitored Soviet and U.S. spacecraft and calculated their orbits.
9. Pic du Midi Observatory observed Apollo missions all the way to the Moon.
10. The Lick Observatory observed Apollo missions during their return coast to Earth and produced live television pictures, which were broadcast to U.S. West Coast viewers via KQED-TV in San Francisco.
11. Larry Baysinger, a technician for WHAS radio in Louisville, Kentucky, independently detected and recorded transmissions between the Apollo 11 astronauts on the lunar surface and the Lunar Module. He could only detect messages from the lunar vehicles and not to them, because the Earth was between him and Houston. Also, backyard amateurs around the world were able to tune in to the Apollo audio (not the video—that would have required bigger hardware—but the audio was easy) by pointing their Yagi antennas and/or dishes at the Moon. Hundreds, or maybe thousands, of people in many countries did exactly that.
12. The Soviet Union, which monitored the missions at their Space Transmissions Corps, had its leader, Vasily Mishin, describe in an interview for the article “The Moon Programme That Faltered” how the Soviet Moon program dwindled after the Apollo landing.
13. The absurdity that thousands of people who worked on the Apollo missions would have to remain silent for years and years without a single person coming forward to claim it was a fraud highlights the implausibility of conspiracy theories.
14. In October–November 1977, the Soviet radio telescope RATAN-600 observed all five transmitters of ALSEP scientific packages placed on the Moon’s surface by all Apollo landing missions, excluding Apollo 11. Their selenographic coordinates and transmitter power outputs (20 W) were in agreement with NASA reports.
15. Images taken by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) mission beginning in July 2009 show the six Apollo Lunar Module descent stages, Apollo Lunar Surface Experiments Package (ALSEP) science experiments, astronaut footpaths, and lunar rover tire tracks. These images provide some of the most effective proof to date rebutting the “landing hoax” theories. Although this probe was launched by NASA, the camera and image interpretation are managed by an academic group—the LROC Science Operations Center at Arizona State University—along with many other academic groups. At least some of these groups, such as the German Aerospace Center in Berlin, are outside the U.S. and are not funded by the U.S. government.
16. After these images were taken, the LRO mission moved into a lower orbit for higher-resolution imaging. All of the sites have since been re-imaged at a higher resolution.
17. Apollo 17 LM camera footage during ascent, compared to the 2011 LRO photos of the landing site, shows an almost exact match of the rover tracks.
18. Further imaging in 2012 shows the shadows cast by the flags planted by the astronauts at all Apollo landing sites. The exception is Apollo 11, which matches Buzz Aldrin’s account of the flag being blown over by the lander’s rocket exhaust upon departure from the Moon.
19. Spain and Australia accounted for two-thirds of the DSN that received all of the TV broadcasts from the Moon.
20. Dozens of tracking stations around the world, including those of adversarial nations, used radar and radio telescopes to track all of the missions. More information can be found on MIT’s website. The tracking was accurate to within one mile.
21. Spain had the largest telescope on Earth at the time and used it to photograph the S-IVB fuel dumps around the Moon (which spanned miles, making them visible to a large enough telescope), as well as the Apollo 13 debris and gas field (which behaved similarly).
22. There are more than 100,000 photos taken from lunar orbit.
23. The Jodrell Bank Observatory tracked the movements of the Eagle Lunar Module from the beginning of its descent to the lunar surface by monitoring the Doppler shift in its telemetry signal.
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@Iamnyka29 That’s right. The Artemis program is planning to return humans to the moon by 2026. The keyword here is planning. No attemps have been made so far, therefore nobody is struggling to get back to the moon. You are distorting the facts.
“astronauts Barry “Butch” Wilmore and Sunita Williams, were trapped in space for 9 months due to technical difficulties and that was a test mission to the ISS”
Wrong. They were not trapped. If they were truly trapped then by that logic everyone on board was trapped. From the moment they arrived, they could have left on another vehicle that was already docked. They were never in danger, abandoned ot trapped; they simply had to be integrated into the crew rotation schedule like any other astronauts. Other crew members, who had already been on the ISS longer, needed to return first due to mission timelines, health considerations, and spacecraft availability. Williams and Wilmore stayed longer, not because they were left behind, but because NASA prioritized a safe and structured return rather than an improvised one.
This has NOTHING to do with the Apollo moon landings.
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“Conspiracy theorists and ordinary doubters often mention the press conference held by the Apollo 11 astronauts after returning from the Moon, noting how their expressions are once again gloomy and seem to betray unease. The astronauts utter their words very slowly, with an almost flat tone, as if they were speaking grudgingly. This, it is claimed, is evidence that they are lying uncomfortably.
Actually, if you watch the entire press conference (Figure 9.1-7) instead of just its first few minutes, it becomes evident that the three astronauts gradually relax and become more at ease while still choosing their words very carefully. There are many moments of laughter, smiles and outright jokes despite the pressure of it being their first press conference after their historic trip. Here’s an example from 37:53 in the video of Figure 9.1-8:
In other words, the gloomy still image shown by conspiracy theorists has been intentionally selected to give the wrong impression that the astronauts were deeply uneasy. Figure 9.1-9 is a different still from that same press conference: all three astronauts are smiling. Figure 9.1-10 is a sampling of some of the quips and jokes that the Apollo 11 astronauts made during the press conference.
Nevertheless, it has to be noted that almost all the Apollo astronauts were test pilots, unaccustomed to the glare of the media spotlight and trained, like all pilots when they have to report on their flight, to speak clearly and precisely, measuring their words. They were also tired not only from the trip to the Moon but also from the subsequent quarantine. They acknowledge their limited media skills even in this post-flight press conference when the discuss the Goodwill Tour that will take them around the world, visiting kings and presidents of many countries.
There’s also another practical aspect to be considered when watching this 1969 press conference with today’s eyes: in those days, portable recorders were rare (only one can be glimpsed in the huge crowd of reporters in the video) and therefore journalists had to write down, sometimes in shorthand, what the astronauts said. The official recording of the event would be released only after it had been duplicated, and this would have taken hours with the analog systems of the period, whereas reporters had to go to press as soon as possible.
Accordingly, the astronauts spoke very clearly and slowly to allow everyone to transcribe correctly and also to choose their words very carefully, since they were quite aware of the great historical importance and of the political sensitivity of everything they said. They were, after all, the first human beings in all of mankind’s history to go to the Moon and back.
Moreover, if Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins had instead been at perfect ease and as cheerful as talk show hosts, moon hoax believers would probably argue that this would prove that they were actors.“ — Moonhoaxdebunked
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1. There are over 8,000 photos available to the public of the Moon landing missions that could not have been faked.
2. There are thousands of hours of video as well.
3. Hundreds of kilograms of lunar material have been studied and verified by astronomers and geologists all over the world, showing chemical signs of originating from the Moon.
4. The LRRR (Laser Retroreflector Arrays) left by Apollo 11 and other subsequent Apollo missions can still be interacted with today using sufficiently powerful lasers from Earth.
5. The SELENE photos show the damage to the lunar surface where we landed the Apollo missions.
6. The Chang’e 2 photos show the lander base.
7. Chandrayaan-2 managed to photograph another Apollo lander base.
8. A group at Kettering Grammar School, using simple radio equipment, monitored Soviet and U.S. spacecraft and calculated their orbits.
9. Pic du Midi Observatory observed Apollo missions all the way to the Moon.
10. The Lick Observatory observed Apollo missions during their return coast to Earth and produced live television pictures, which were broadcast to U.S. West Coast viewers via KQED-TV in San Francisco.
11. Larry Baysinger, a technician for WHAS radio in Louisville, Kentucky, independently detected and recorded transmissions between the Apollo 11 astronauts on the lunar surface and the Lunar Module. He could only detect messages from the lunar vehicles and not to them, because the Earth was between him and Houston. Also, backyard amateurs around the world were able to tune in to the Apollo audio (not the video—that would have required bigger hardware—but the audio was easy) by pointing their Yagi antennas and/or dishes at the Moon. Hundreds, or maybe thousands, of people in many countries did exactly that.
12. The Soviet Union, which monitored the missions at their Space Transmissions Corps, had its leader, Vasily Mishin, describe in an interview for the article “The Moon Programme That Faltered” how the Soviet Moon program dwindled after the Apollo landing.
13. The absurdity that thousands of people who worked on the Apollo missions would have to remain silent for years and years without a single person coming forward to claim it was a fraud highlights the implausibility of conspiracy theories.
14. In October–November 1977, the Soviet radio telescope RATAN-600 observed all five transmitters of ALSEP scientific packages placed on the Moon’s surface by all Apollo landing missions, excluding Apollo 11. Their selenographic coordinates and transmitter power outputs (20 W) were in agreement with NASA reports.
15. Images taken by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) mission beginning in July 2009 show the six Apollo Lunar Module descent stages, Apollo Lunar Surface Experiments Package (ALSEP) science experiments, astronaut footpaths, and lunar rover tire tracks. These images provide some of the most effective proof to date rebutting the “landing hoax” theories. Although this probe was launched by NASA, the camera and image interpretation are managed by an academic group—the LROC Science Operations Center at Arizona State University—along with many other academic groups. At least some of these groups, such as the German Aerospace Center in Berlin, are outside the U.S. and are not funded by the U.S. government.
16. After these images were taken, the LRO mission moved into a lower orbit for higher-resolution imaging. All of the sites have since been re-imaged at a higher resolution.
17. Apollo 17 LM camera footage during ascent, compared to the 2011 LRO photos of the landing site, shows an almost exact match of the rover tracks.
18. Further imaging in 2012 shows the shadows cast by the flags planted by the astronauts at all Apollo landing sites. The exception is Apollo 11, which matches Buzz Aldrin’s account of the flag being blown over by the lander’s rocket exhaust upon departure from the Moon.
19. Spain and Australia accounted for two-thirds of the DSN that received all of the TV broadcasts from the Moon.
20. Dozens of tracking stations around the world, including those of adversarial nations, used radar and radio telescopes to track all of the missions. More information can be found on MIT’s website. The tracking was accurate to within one mile.
21. Spain had the largest telescope on Earth at the time and used it to photograph the S-IVB fuel dumps around the Moon (which spanned miles, making them visible to a large enough telescope), as well as the Apollo 13 debris and gas field (which behaved similarly).
22. There are more than 100,000 photos taken from lunar orbit.
23. The Jodrell Bank Observatory tracked the movements of the Eagle Lunar Module from the beginning of its descent to the lunar surface by monitoring the Doppler shift in its telemetry signal.
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“Conspiracy theorists and ordinary doubters often mention the press conference held by the Apollo 11 astronauts after returning from the Moon, noting how their expressions are once again gloomy and seem to betray unease. The astronauts utter their words very slowly, with an almost flat tone, as if they were speaking grudgingly. This, it is claimed, is evidence that they are lying uncomfortably.
Actually, if you watch the entire press conference (Figure 9.1-7) instead of just its first few minutes, it becomes evident that the three astronauts gradually relax and become more at ease while still choosing their words very carefully. There are many moments of laughter, smiles and outright jokes despite the pressure of it being their first press conference after their historic trip. Here’s an example from 37:53 in the video of Figure 9.1-8:
In other words, the gloomy still image shown by conspiracy theorists has been intentionally selected to give the wrong impression that the astronauts were deeply uneasy. Figure 9.1-9 is a different still from that same press conference: all three astronauts are smiling. Figure 9.1-10 is a sampling of some of the quips and jokes that the Apollo 11 astronauts made during the press conference.
Nevertheless, it has to be noted that almost all the Apollo astronauts were test pilots, unaccustomed to the glare of the media spotlight and trained, like all pilots when they have to report on their flight, to speak clearly and precisely, measuring their words. They were also tired not only from the trip to the Moon but also from the subsequent quarantine. They acknowledge their limited media skills even in this post-flight press conference when the discuss the Goodwill Tour that will take them around the world, visiting kings and presidents of many countries.
There’s also another practical aspect to be considered when watching this 1969 press conference with today’s eyes: in those days, portable recorders were rare (only one can be glimpsed in the huge crowd of reporters in the video) and therefore journalists had to write down, sometimes in shorthand, what the astronauts said. The official recording of the event would be released only after it had been duplicated, and this would have taken hours with the analog systems of the period, whereas reporters had to go to press as soon as possible.
Accordingly, the astronauts spoke very clearly and slowly to allow everyone to transcribe correctly and also to choose their words very carefully, since they were quite aware of the great historical importance and of the political sensitivity of everything they said. They were, after all, the first human beings in all of mankind’s history to go to the Moon and back.
Moreover, if Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins had instead been at perfect ease and as cheerful as talk show hosts, moon hoax believers would probably argue that this would prove that they were actors.“ — Moonhoaxdebunked
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“Conspiracy theorists and ordinary doubters often mention the press conference held by the Apollo 11 astronauts after returning from the Moon, noting how their expressions are once again gloomy and seem to betray unease. The astronauts utter their words very slowly, with an almost flat tone, as if they were speaking grudgingly. This, it is claimed, is evidence that they are lying uncomfortably.
Actually, if you watch the entire press conference (Figure 9.1-7) instead of just its first few minutes, it becomes evident that the three astronauts gradually relax and become more at ease while still choosing their words very carefully. There are many moments of laughter, smiles and outright jokes despite the pressure of it being their first press conference after their historic trip. Here’s an example from 37:53 in the video of Figure 9.1-8:
In other words, the gloomy still image shown by conspiracy theorists has been intentionally selected to give the wrong impression that the astronauts were deeply uneasy. Figure 9.1-9 is a different still from that same press conference: all three astronauts are smiling. Figure 9.1-10 is a sampling of some of the quips and jokes that the Apollo 11 astronauts made during the press conference.
Nevertheless, it has to be noted that almost all the Apollo astronauts were test pilots, unaccustomed to the glare of the media spotlight and trained, like all pilots when they have to report on their flight, to speak clearly and precisely, measuring their words. They were also tired not only from the trip to the Moon but also from the subsequent quarantine. They acknowledge their limited media skills even in this post-flight press conference when the discuss the Goodwill Tour that will take them around the world, visiting kings and presidents of many countries.
There’s also another practical aspect to be considered when watching this 1969 press conference with today’s eyes: in those days, portable recorders were rare (only one can be glimpsed in the huge crowd of reporters in the video) and therefore journalists had to write down, sometimes in shorthand, what the astronauts said. The official recording of the event would be released only after it had been duplicated, and this would have taken hours with the analog systems of the period, whereas reporters had to go to press as soon as possible.
Accordingly, the astronauts spoke very clearly and slowly to allow everyone to transcribe correctly and also to choose their words very carefully, since they were quite aware of the great historical importance and of the political sensitivity of everything they said. They were, after all, the first human beings in all of mankind’s history to go to the Moon and back.
Moreover, if Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins had instead been at perfect ease and as cheerful as talk show hosts, moon hoax believers would probably argue that this would prove that they were actors.“ — Moonhoaxdebunked
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1. There are over 8,000 photos available to the public of the Moon landing missions that could not have been faked.
2. There are thousands of hours of video as well.
3. Hundreds of kilograms of lunar material have been studied and verified by astronomers and geologists all over the world, showing chemical signs of originating from the Moon.
4. The LRRR (Laser Retroreflector Arrays) left by Apollo 11 and other subsequent Apollo missions can still be interacted with today using sufficiently powerful lasers from Earth.
5. The SELENE photos show the damage to the lunar surface where we landed the Apollo missions.
6. The Chang’e 2 photos show the lander base.
7. Chandrayaan-2 managed to photograph another Apollo lander base.
8. A group at Kettering Grammar School, using simple radio equipment, monitored Soviet and U.S. spacecraft and calculated their orbits.
9. Pic du Midi Observatory observed Apollo missions all the way to the Moon.
10. The Lick Observatory observed Apollo missions during their return coast to Earth and produced live television pictures, which were broadcast to U.S. West Coast viewers via KQED-TV in San Francisco.
11. Larry Baysinger, a technician for WHAS radio in Louisville, Kentucky, independently detected and recorded transmissions between the Apollo 11 astronauts on the lunar surface and the Lunar Module. He could only detect messages from the lunar vehicles and not to them, because the Earth was between him and Houston. Also, backyard amateurs around the world were able to tune in to the Apollo audio (not the video—that would have required bigger hardware—but the audio was easy) by pointing their Yagi antennas and/or dishes at the Moon. Hundreds, or maybe thousands, of people in many countries did exactly that.
12. The Soviet Union, which monitored the missions at their Space Transmissions Corps, had its leader, Vasily Mishin, describe in an interview for the article “The Moon Programme That Faltered” how the Soviet Moon program dwindled after the Apollo landing.
13. The absurdity that thousands of people who worked on the Apollo missions would have to remain silent for years and years without a single person coming forward to claim it was a fraud highlights the implausibility of conspiracy theories.
14. In October–November 1977, the Soviet radio telescope RATAN-600 observed all five transmitters of ALSEP scientific packages placed on the Moon’s surface by all Apollo landing missions, excluding Apollo 11. Their selenographic coordinates and transmitter power outputs (20 W) were in agreement with NASA reports.
15. Images taken by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) mission beginning in July 2009 show the six Apollo Lunar Module descent stages, Apollo Lunar Surface Experiments Package (ALSEP) science experiments, astronaut footpaths, and lunar rover tire tracks. These images provide some of the most effective proof to date rebutting the “landing hoax” theories. Although this probe was launched by NASA, the camera and image interpretation are managed by an academic group—the LROC Science Operations Center at Arizona State University—along with many other academic groups. At least some of these groups, such as the German Aerospace Center in Berlin, are outside the U.S. and are not funded by the U.S. government.
16. After these images were taken, the LRO mission moved into a lower orbit for higher-resolution imaging. All of the sites have since been re-imaged at a higher resolution.
17. Apollo 17 LM camera footage during ascent, compared to the 2011 LRO photos of the landing site, shows an almost exact match of the rover tracks.
18. Further imaging in 2012 shows the shadows cast by the flags planted by the astronauts at all Apollo landing sites. The exception is Apollo 11, which matches Buzz Aldrin’s account of the flag being blown over by the lander’s rocket exhaust upon departure from the Moon.
19. Spain and Australia accounted for two-thirds of the DSN that received all of the TV broadcasts from the Moon.
20. Dozens of tracking stations around the world, including those of adversarial nations, used radar and radio telescopes to track all of the missions. More information can be found on MIT’s website. The tracking was accurate to within one mile.
21. Spain had the largest telescope on Earth at the time and used it to photograph the S-IVB fuel dumps around the Moon (which spanned miles, making them visible to a large enough telescope), as well as the Apollo 13 debris and gas field (which behaved similarly).
22. There are more than 100,000 photos taken from lunar orbit.
23. The Jodrell Bank Observatory tracked the movements of the Eagle Lunar Module from the beginning of its descent to the lunar surface by monitoring the Doppler shift in its telemetry signal.
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@guymerritt4860 “Conspiracy theorists and ordinary doubters often mention the press conference held by the Apollo 11 astronauts after returning from the Moon, noting how their expressions are once again gloomy and seem to betray unease. The astronauts utter their words very slowly, with an almost flat tone, as if they were speaking grudgingly. This, it is claimed, is evidence that they are lying uncomfortably.
Actually, if you watch the entire press conference (Figure 9.1-7) instead of just its first few minutes, it becomes evident that the three astronauts gradually relax and become more at ease while still choosing their words very carefully. There are many moments of laughter, smiles and outright jokes despite the pressure of it being their first press conference after their historic trip. Here’s an example from 37:53 in the video of Figure 9.1-8:
In other words, the gloomy still image shown by conspiracy theorists has been intentionally selected to give the wrong impression that the astronauts were deeply uneasy. Figure 9.1-9 is a different still from that same press conference: all three astronauts are smiling. Figure 9.1-10 is a sampling of some of the quips and jokes that the Apollo 11 astronauts made during the press conference.
Nevertheless, it has to be noted that almost all the Apollo astronauts were test pilots, unaccustomed to the glare of the media spotlight and trained, like all pilots when they have to report on their flight, to speak clearly and precisely, measuring their words. They were also tired not only from the trip to the Moon but also from the subsequent quarantine. They acknowledge their limited media skills even in this post-flight press conference when the discuss the Goodwill Tour that will take them around the world, visiting kings and presidents of many countries.
There’s also another practical aspect to be considered when watching this 1969 press conference with today’s eyes: in those days, portable recorders were rare (only one can be glimpsed in the huge crowd of reporters in the video) and therefore journalists had to write down, sometimes in shorthand, what the astronauts said. The official recording of the event would be released only after it had been duplicated, and this would have taken hours with the analog systems of the period, whereas reporters had to go to press as soon as possible.
Accordingly, the astronauts spoke very clearly and slowly to allow everyone to transcribe correctly and also to choose their words very carefully, since they were quite aware of the great historical importance and of the political sensitivity of everything they said. They were, after all, the first human beings in all of mankind’s history to go to the Moon and back.
Moreover, if Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins had instead been at perfect ease and as cheerful as talk show hosts, moon hoax believers would probably argue that this would prove that they were actors.“ — Moonhoaxdebunked
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@arthorse6835 Because you are being dishonest. Youtube doesn't put strike-throughs in people comments to censor them. They remove comments. And besides, strike-throughs don't censor anything if you can still read them. Right? Right.
At any rate. Let's have a look at your ramblings.
1. It's true that the Apollo crews didn't reach escape velocity. Because...they didn't need to. After the TLI burn, the spacecraft was on a free trajectory towards the Moon. During this phase, the spacecraft coasted, gradually slowing down due to Earth's gravitational pull. However, the initial velocity was sufficient to carry it to the Moon's vicinity before it would have fallen back to Earth. As the spacecraft approached the Moon, the gravitational influence of the Moon started to become more significant. At a certain point, the spacecraft entered the Moon's sphere of influence, and the Moon's gravity began to dominate, pulling the spacecraft towards it.
2. The press had to video a projection screen because the video feed which was SSTV format needed to be converted to the standard NTSC format for consumer televisions. And because they lacked a computer that could convert the format in real time, they did it by the analog means of projection, with some loss of quality.
3. Earth's reflection in helmets isn't 4x larger than the sun? Why would it be??? I think you screwed that one up.
4. Lack of radio delay. False. The delay in only noticeable 1-way because the conversation is being recorded in Houston. So in other words, if the astronauts ask a question, Nixon is free to respond immediately after he hears the question. But if Nixon asks a question he must wait at least 2.6 seconds before expecting a reply.
5. My daughter drives thru a dead zone and has no signal. Well, NO KIDDING. A dead zone means there is no signal. Also, equating cellular service to the United S-band is ignorant. Does your cellphone have a 200 foot diameter satellite dish attached to it?
6. The total fuel capacity for the Saturn V rocket was over 2 million gallons.
7. The Lunar Module used silver-zinc batteries to power its systems, including the thermal control, environmental control, and other essential systems. These batteries were chosen for their high energy density and reliability.
8. Cooling. The Lunar Module maintained a cool and safe atmosphere for astronauts through a combination of thermal insulation, an Active Thermal Control System (ATCS), and an Environmental Control System (ECS). The thermal insulation minimized heat transfer from the external environment, while the ATCS used a water/glycol loop and a sublimator to dissipate heat by sublimating water in the vacuum of space. The ECS managed the cabin atmosphere by controlling oxygen and carbon dioxide levels, temperature, and humidity, using cabin fans, heat exchangers, and water evaporators. External radiators emitted excess heat into space, ensuring a comfortable environment inside the Lunar Module.
9. Elon Musk and Space X'. Starship is designed to be a fully reusable spacecraft capable of carrying large payloads and crews to various destinations, including the Moon and Mars. Its size and ambitious mission profiles mean it needs a substantial amount of fuel. SpaceX plans to use an in-orbit refueling strategy where multiple tanker versions of the Starship are launched to transfer fuel to the Starship destined for the Moon or Mars. This approach allows the spacecraft to carry more payload and less fuel initially, with subsequent launches dedicated to refueling it in Earth's orbit. Musk has indicated that it could take up to 8 launches to fully refuel a Starship in orbit, depending on the specifics of the mission, the efficiency of the refueling process, and the amount of fuel required. Each tanker launch would carry a significant amount of fuel to be transferred to the primary Starship.
10. Apollo 12 Lunar eclipse. WRONG! That was a SOLAR eclipse.
11. Alan Bean "not knowing" he passed through the VAB's. Seriously? Bart Sibrel did the interview. He is a charlatan, stalker and convicted criminal. Sibrel omits important context from that interview. Alan Bean was also on a Skylab mission (under the VAB's) so he was most likely talking about that.
12. TV camera accident. Really? You're going to assume they pointed the camera at the sun on purpose? Ask yourself why NASA would need to fake an accidental breaking of a TV camera?
13. They splashed down was hard and the camera broke loose and hit Alan Bean in the head. So???? Why is that a concern to you?
14. The horizon of any celestial body is calculated assuming the body is perfectly spherical. On the surface of the moon you have large shallow craters, rising slope and hollows. These feature represent the "apparent" horizon, not the "true" horizon. On the moon the true horizon is 1.5 miles.
15. Film, camera and paper notes were never subjected to 250 degree F heat. That is the GROUND temperature at Lunar NOON. The Apollo crews landed during Lunar morning when GROUND temps were much lower.
16. The return/rendevouz docking done manually. So? Your argument is based on incredulity.
17. China confirmed the Apollo landings. Look up Chang'e 2
18. No, Armstrong never gave anyone a moon rock. And, it’s not a NASA Moon rock. Everything points to a mistake or to a hoax orchestrated by two Dutch artists in 2006. NASA has never authenticated the “rock” (there are no documents tracing its origins), it’s far too big to be a donated lunar sample, and its background story is nonsensical. It was reportedly donated privately in 1969 to a retired prime minister instead of being given, as was customary, to a representative of the then-current Dutch government; it wasn’t put on public display as a Moon rock would have deserved; and real donated Moon rocks were encapsulated in transparent plastic, while this one is not.
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@arthorse6835 Point 3. "Therefore, the earth should appear 4x larger than the sun from the moon." What??? I think you meant to say the earth should appear 4x larger than the moon. It is. The size of the earth depicted in photos and videos depends on the focal length of the lens used and the distance from the earth. How does your not understand this prove the moon landings were faked?
Point 10. "the earth moving across the sun is indeed a lunar eclipse" Wrong! The earth moving across and eclipsing the sun is a SOLAR ECLIPSE.
"the solar is when the moon is in the middle of the sun and earth." A Solar Eclipse is when any celestial body (Earth, Moon, Mars, etc.) is between the Sun and the observer.
"What was described was in fact a LUNAR eclipse." Wrong again. A lunar eclipse happens when the Moon is eclipsed by the earth.
Point 11. "But I'm keeping in mind that if Bart can do it, so can NASA." LOL! All Bart did was cut of important context in his footage. There is no way NASA or any Hollywood studio can fake 1/6 gravity in a vacuum enviornment in continuous footage lasting hours.
Point 12. "Alan Bean of A12 breaks the color video camera once on the moon," So? Accidents are prove of a fake moon landing? Really? All the other FIVE missions didn't break a camera. So...are you really going to make an accident a point of contention?
"a roll of film is left behind" The roll of film was jammed inside the camera. It was left behind because that was protocol. All cameras and unnecessary equipment was left behind to save weight. They shot many rolls of film on the moon. One roll gets jammed and you think it was a conspiracy???
"Bean again drops another camera for live feed on the astronaut pick up in the ocean." Wrong! The camera breaks loose from its attachment point inside the Command Module when it splashes down in the ocean and it hits Alan Bean in the head.
"You really have to ask me Why NASA would fake breaking a video camera if the moon landings were fake?" Uh, yeah. You're making this a useless point of contention. NASA has ALL the video from the other FIVE missions. So why would they need to fake accidents with cameras on Apollo 12?
Point 14. "we see in the moon images nothing that remotely looks like anything close to a mile horizon." How do you know that? Did you study the images and measure the distance? How did you measure it? Did you assume you were looking at the ACTUAL horizon. How did you know you weren't looking at the LOCAL horizon such as the rim of shallow crater, a rising slope, top of a hill, etc.?
"tho we know there is no cliff or craters, thanks to other pics that show the ground area around that part." Oh really? You've looking at the ENTIRE Apollo 12 photo archive? I doubt that.
"The horizon calculations via the wikipedia link give the moon a 1.18 mile horizon, but you generously gave it 1.5 miles. Either way, the pics show nothing close to a mile." Again, how did you measure the distance just by looking at the photos? The true horizon of the moon (perfect sphere) is about 1.5 miles away. The horizon can also appear to be deceptively close because there is no atmospheric haze or other objects to judge distance. You need to explain how YOU calculated the distance using only your eyes.
Point 17. "the Chinese scientist DID say that the LM docking rendevouz was 'unbelievable' because it was nearly impossible to do manually." Wrong. He was simply amazing. He didn't say it was impossible. The docking/redevouz was practiced during Gemini and early Apollo missions leading up to Apollo 11. Your argument is based on ignorance and incredulity.
"Okaaaaay......." <---- Incredulity.
Point 18. The petrified wood "moon rock" was NOT given by the crew of Apollo 11 as I've already explained in my last post.
"It seems obvious you have a vested interest in vehemently defending the moon landings..." Is there something wrong with defending the truth?
"as well as persuading folks to fully believe them" Uh, what? Try typing that mess of words again.
"But you can rest assured that your condescension is unconvincing and actually counterproductive." I really don't care if you're convinced or not. I proved facts for all your so-called "issues". The veracity of the achievements of the Apollo program doesn't depend on your belief or my ability to convince you. Modern history is what it is. Not what you think or pretend it should be. Deal with it.
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@arthorse6835 “For someone who allegedly doesn't care about whether I accept the moon landings or not, you sure do seem to have a personal goal to sway my opinion and ridicule my position on the matter.”
LOL! I’m not trying to sway you. I’m answering your “concerns” because you seem to understand very little of what you’re talking about. You're entitled to your opinions but not facts. The moon landings are factual history whether you accept them or not. Just like WWII actually happened whether you believe it or not. Facts don’t require belief.
“and haven't even addressed the eclipse issue- just whether it is a lunar or SOLAR eclipse.”
So you admit that you were wrong about the type of eclipse that occurred? Because the way you’ve been talking, you don’t seem to understand the difference. The eclipse was not visible from earth. Solar and Lunar eclipses are normally viewed from the Earth, not floating in space or standing on the moon. This is why you won’t find historical data on a solar eclipse event during the Apollo 12 mission.
“They lied. They showed an astronomy event on TV that could not have happened in Nov '69.”
They didn’t lie. You just don’t know what you’re talking about because you’re ignorant. Again, eclipse predictions are made with the idea that you are viewing it from EARTH. If you were standing on moon during the solar eclipse back in April you wouldn’t actually see the eclipse because you’re standing on the very thing causing the eclipse. Use some critical thinking. You won’t find the Apollo 12 solar eclipse in any historical records because it’s not an event that was visible from Earth! But it was visible briefly for Apollo 12 because of their position on the return trip.
“You also did not even mention the contradiction over the moon's temperatures and your silly assertion about lunar morning/dawn and how cool it was at that time.”
What contradiction? All Apollo missions landed during Lunar morning when the sun’s angle is low. If you’re standing on the moon you’d have 14 earth days of sunlight followed by 14 days of darkness. Those high temperatures on the moon refer to GROUND temperatures when the sun is directly overhead.
"The supposed 1/6 gravity on the moon looks way too much like Earth gravity video footage."
Supposed 1/6 gravity? LOL! How much gravity does the moon really have?
"Collection bags are dropped and they appear to fall the same rate as if here on earth."
Except they don't.
"It is very fake looking- but not as fake as the lift off of Apollo17 from the moon complete with sparklers"
Do you even know what's causing the sparkles? If you don't then why would assume it must be fake? The color TV camera used on the Moon actually had a black-and-white sensor with a color wheel. The colored filters on this wheel rotated rapidly in front of the camera's sensor so as to generate a sequence of monochrome images filtered in red, green and yellow. These filtered images were then blended and processed electronically on Earth to reconstitute the original colors of the scene. This system was sturdy and lightweight, but it had a drawback that if an object flashed rapidly in front of the camera it was caught by only one of the colored filters, acquiring a false coloring in the electronic processing. Now you know.
""and a perfectly timed pan up and zoom."
Because they learned from mistakes made while trying to capture Apollo's 15 and 16 departure.
"You've spent a lot of wasted time on just me."
Yes, I have. We agree on that.
"Maybe you should focus on the many, many other folks watching and posting on YT videos that also doubt the integrity of these events."
I do. That's how I found you.
"They doubt NASA, and the federal govt- rightly so."
Doesn't matter. They're just as ignorant as you.
" I'm just one little soul in a sea of many skeptics."
No, you're not a skeptic. You're a flat out denier. A skeptic is open to reasoned debate and evidence. Everything I've told you can be verified but you refuse to fact check anything I've said because you've already made up your mind.
"But with so many others now doubting this incredibly historic and monumental acheivement as evidenced by their posts on YT,"
Lmao! What evidence have any of your dullards ever posted?? All I ever see from so-called skeptics like you are arguments based on ignorance and incredulity.
"That is the saddest part of all....."
No, the saddest part is when people like you have the mindset, "I don't understand it therefore it must be fake!"
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@arthorse6835 "Seems like I'm in the majority and that makes me sad- truly. Americans no longer trust or believe their own govt or media."
You're absolutely right. It's truly sad that a bunch of self-styled experts, whom you claim to be a part of, think they know more than the literal millions of credentialed engineers, scientists, physicists, astronomers, professional photographers, cinematographers, doctors, pilots, and astronauts who have no problem with the achievements of the Apollo program. But according to you, they all must be lying or have been too ignorant over the last half-century to have spotted a hoax not once but six times. Here's a fun fact for you: there isn't a single government on this planet that disputes the moon landings. And that includes countries that hate the USA. Let that sink in.
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“Conspiracy theorists and ordinary doubters often mention the press conference held by the Apollo 11 astronauts after returning from the Moon, noting how their expressions are once again gloomy and seem to betray unease. The astronauts utter their words very slowly, with an almost flat tone, as if they were speaking grudgingly. This, it is claimed, is evidence that they are lying uncomfortably.
Actually, if you watch the entire press conference (Figure 9.1-7) instead of just its first few minutes, it becomes evident that the three astronauts gradually relax and become more at ease while still choosing their words very carefully. There are many moments of laughter, smiles and outright jokes despite the pressure of it being their first press conference after their historic trip. Here’s an example from 37:53 in the video of Figure 9.1-8:
In other words, the gloomy still image shown by conspiracy theorists has been intentionally selected to give the wrong impression that the astronauts were deeply uneasy. Figure 9.1-9 is a different still from that same press conference: all three astronauts are smiling. Figure 9.1-10 is a sampling of some of the quips and jokes that the Apollo 11 astronauts made during the press conference.
Nevertheless, it has to be noted that almost all the Apollo astronauts were test pilots, unaccustomed to the glare of the media spotlight and trained, like all pilots when they have to report on their flight, to speak clearly and precisely, measuring their words. They were also tired not only from the trip to the Moon but also from the subsequent quarantine. They acknowledge their limited media skills even in this post-flight press conference when the discuss the Goodwill Tour that will take them around the world, visiting kings and presidents of many countries.
There’s also another practical aspect to be considered when watching this 1969 press conference with today’s eyes: in those days, portable recorders were rare (only one can be glimpsed in the huge crowd of reporters in the video) and therefore journalists had to write down, sometimes in shorthand, what the astronauts said. The official recording of the event would be released only after it had been duplicated, and this would have taken hours with the analog systems of the period, whereas reporters had to go to press as soon as possible.
Accordingly, the astronauts spoke very clearly and slowly to allow everyone to transcribe correctly and also to choose their words very carefully, since they were quite aware of the great historical importance and of the political sensitivity of everything they said. They were, after all, the first human beings in all of mankind’s history to go to the Moon and back.
Moreover, if Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins had instead been at perfect ease and as cheerful as talk show hosts, moon hoax believers would probably argue that this would prove that they were actors.“ — Moonhoaxdebunked
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@godswill2260 “neither does your opinion prove they went.”
That’s right. My opinion doesn’t mean sh!t. But the facts do.
Proof humans have walked on the Moon:
1. There are over 8,000 photos available to the public of the Moon landing missions that could not have been faked.
2. There are thousands of hours of video too.
3. Hundreds of kilograms of lunar material that has been studied and verified by astronomers and geologists all over the world and showed chemical signs of being on the Moon.
4. The LRRR data laser retroreflector arrays left by Apollo 11, and other subsequent Apollo missions, can still be interacted with today by using powerful enough lasers here on Earth.
5. The SELENE photos which show the damage to the lunar surface where we landed the Apollo missions.
6. The Chang'e 2 photos, which show the lander base.
7. Chandrayaan-2, which managed to photograph another Apollo lander base.
8. A group at Kettering Grammar School, using simple radio equipment, monitored Soviet and U.S. spacecraft and calculated their orbits.
9. Pic du Midi Observatory, which watched Apollo missions all the way to the Moon.
10. The Lick Observatory observations during the return coast to Earth produced live television pictures broadcast to United States west coast viewers via KQED-TV in San Francisco
11. Larry Baysinger, a technician for WHAS radio in Louisville, Kentucky, independently detected and recorded transmissions between the Apollo 11 astronauts on the lunar surface and the Lunar Module. He could only detect messages FROM the lunar vehicles and not to them, cause the earth was between him and Huston. Also, backyard amateurs all around the world were able to tune in on the Apollo audio (not the video, that would have taken bigger hardware, but, the audio was easy) by pointing their Yagi and/or dishes at the Moon. Hundreds (or maybe thousands?) of people in many countries did exactly that.
12. The Soviet Union, who monitored the missions at their Space Transmissions Corps, who's leader Vasily Mishin, in an interview for the article "The Moon Programme That Faltered", describes how the Soviet Moon programme dwindled after the Apollo landing.
13. The absurdity that thousands of people who worked on the Apollo missions would have to be kept silent for years and years without a single person coming forward to claim it was a fraud.
14. In October-November 1977, the Soviet radio telescope RATAN-600 observed all five transmitters of ALSEP scientific packages placed on the Moon surface by all Apollo landing missions excluding Apollo 11. Their selenographic coordinates and the transmitter power outputs (20 W were in agreement with the NASA reports).
15. Images taken by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter mission beginning in July 2009 show the six Apollo Lunar Module descent stages, Apollo Lunar Surface Experiments Package (ALSEP) science experiments, astronaut footpaths, and lunar rover tire tracks. These images are the most effective proof to date to rebut the "landing hoax" theories. Although this probe was indeed launched by NASA, the camera and the interpretation of the images are under the control of an academic group - the LROC Science Operations Center at Arizona State University, along with many other academic groups. At least some of these groups, such as the German Aerospace Center, Berlin, are not located in the US, and are not funded by the US government.
16. After the images shown here were taken, the LRO mission moved into a lower orbit for higher resolution camera work. All of the sites have since been re-imaged at higher resolution. Comparison of the original 16 mm
17. Apollo 17 LM camera footage during ascent to the 2011 LRO photos of the landing site show an almost exact match of the rover tracks.
18. Further imaging in 2012 shows the shadows cast by the flags planted by the astronauts on all Apollo landing sites. The exception is that of Apollo 11, which matches Buzz Aldrin's account of the flag being blown over by the lander's rocket exhaust on leaving the Moon.
19. Spain and Australia were 2/3rds of the DSN that received all of the TV broadcasts from the Moon.
20. Dozens of tracking stations around the world (including from enemies) used radar and radio telescopes to track all of the missions. You can find more info about this on MIT's site. The tracking was accurate to within 1 mile.
21. Spain had the largest telescope on Earth at the time, and used it to photograph the SIVB fuel dumps around the Moon (which spanned out for miles, thus were visible to a large enough telescope), as well as the Apollo 13 debris and gas field (same dynamic).
22. There are more than 100,000 photos taken from lunar orbit.
23. The Jodrell Bank Observatory tracked the movements of the Eagle Lunar Module from the beginning of its descent clear down to the lunar surface by monitoring the doppler shift in its telemetry signal.
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“Conspiracy theorists and ordinary doubters often mention the press conference held by the Apollo 11 astronauts after returning from the Moon, noting how their expressions are once again gloomy and seem to betray unease. The astronauts utter their words very slowly, with an almost flat tone, as if they were speaking grudgingly. This, it is claimed, is evidence that they are lying uncomfortably.
Actually, if you watch the entire press conference (Figure 9.1-7) instead of just its first few minutes, it becomes evident that the three astronauts gradually relax and become more at ease while still choosing their words very carefully. There are many moments of laughter, smiles and outright jokes despite the pressure of it being their first press conference after their historic trip. Here’s an example from 37:53 in the video of Figure 9.1-8:
In other words, the gloomy still image shown by conspiracy theorists has been intentionally selected to give the wrong impression that the astronauts were deeply uneasy. Figure 9.1-9 is a different still from that same press conference: all three astronauts are smiling. Figure 9.1-10 is a sampling of some of the quips and jokes that the Apollo 11 astronauts made during the press conference.
Nevertheless, it has to be noted that almost all the Apollo astronauts were test pilots, unaccustomed to the glare of the media spotlight and trained, like all pilots when they have to report on their flight, to speak clearly and precisely, measuring their words. They were also tired not only from the trip to the Moon but also from the subsequent quarantine. They acknowledge their limited media skills even in this post-flight press conference when the discuss the Goodwill Tour that will take them around the world, visiting kings and presidents of many countries.
There’s also another practical aspect to be considered when watching this 1969 press conference with today’s eyes: in those days, portable recorders were rare (only one can be glimpsed in the huge crowd of reporters in the video) and therefore journalists had to write down, sometimes in shorthand, what the astronauts said. The official recording of the event would be released only after it had been duplicated, and this would have taken hours with the analog systems of the period, whereas reporters had to go to press as soon as possible.
Accordingly, the astronauts spoke very clearly and slowly to allow everyone to transcribe correctly and also to choose their words very carefully, since they were quite aware of the great historical importance and of the political sensitivity of everything they said. They were, after all, the first human beings in all of mankind’s history to go to the Moon and back.
Moreover, if Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins had instead been at perfect ease and as cheerful as talk show hosts, moon hoax believers would probably argue that this would prove that they were actors.“ — Moonhoaxdebunked
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Quote:
“Conspiracy theorists and ordinary doubters often mention the press conference held by the Apollo 11 astronauts after returning from the Moon, noting how their expressions are once again gloomy and seem to betray unease. The astronauts utter their words very slowly, with an almost flat tone, as if they were speaking grudgingly. This, it is claimed, is evidence that they are lying uncomfortably.
Actually, if you watch the entire press conference (Figure 9.1-7) instead of just its first few minutes, it becomes evident that the three astronauts gradually relax and become more at ease while still choosing their words very carefully. There are many moments of laughter, smiles and outright jokes despite the pressure of it being their first press conference after their historic trip. Here’s an example from 37:53 in the video of Figure 9.1-8:
In other words, the gloomy still image shown by conspiracy theorists has been intentionally selected to give the wrong impression that the astronauts were deeply uneasy. Figure 9.1-9 is a different still from that same press conference: all three astronauts are smiling. Figure 9.1-10 is a sampling of some of the quips and jokes that the Apollo 11 astronauts made during the press conference.
Nevertheless, it has to be noted that almost all the Apollo astronauts were test pilots, unaccustomed to the glare of the media spotlight and trained, like all pilots when they have to report on their flight, to speak clearly and precisely, measuring their words. They were also tired not only from the trip to the Moon but also from the subsequent quarantine. They acknowledge their limited media skills even in this post-flight press conference when the discuss the Goodwill Tour that will take them around the world, visiting kings and presidents of many countries.
There’s also another practical aspect to be considered when watching this 1969 press conference with today’s eyes: in those days, portable recorders were rare (only one can be glimpsed in the huge crowd of reporters in the video) and therefore journalists had to write down, sometimes in shorthand, what the astronauts said. The official recording of the event would be released only after it had been duplicated, and this would have taken hours with the analog systems of the period, whereas reporters had to go to press as soon as possible.
Accordingly, the astronauts spoke very clearly and slowly to allow everyone to transcribe correctly and also to choose their words very carefully, since they were quite aware of the great historical importance and of the political sensitivity of everything they said. They were, after all, the first human beings in all of mankind’s history to go to the Moon and back.
Moreover, if Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins had instead been at perfect ease and as cheerful as talk show hosts, moon hoax believers would probably argue that this would prove that they were actors.“ — Moonhoaxdebunked
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