Comments by "R K." (@DarkAngel2512) on "An Honest Conversation About Race with John Barnes" video.

  1. Hes irritating me. He's waffling. He says about not judging women because of what life has shown him yet he judges white people a whole lot. He doesnt challenge his own bias about white people. This is my least favourite interview you guys have done. Ten minutes in and he is really hard to follow and skips around in topics. Wont be buying the book.
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  2. He already sounds defensive and hostile off the jump. Ffs saying he never felt less than after racist incidence when his whole tone is passive aggressive and defensive shows he did have an issue. Hes really nauseating.
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  3.  @bbbbbbb51  that would honestly make for a really great conversation. Discrimination and its positive uses.
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  4.  @honestjohn6418  diversity quotas are pretty racist.
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  5.  @eleanor5585  I grew around thousands of black people. John represents maybe 5 of them. Most black people dont talk like John does with the massive chip on the shoulder he has. After 30 years of hanging out with black people and dating almost exclusively black men someone like John "white privilege is real" Barnes isnt going to sway me. I will however watch for the laughs.
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  6. My sister was raped by our stepdad and he got 3 years and was let out after 10 months and they didnt even inform her and he worked at the bottom of our rd. Imagine her shock to see him. The system is def shit when it comes to rape sentencing. Also I reported a sexual abuse incident that happened when I was a child. They wouldnt give me video link that I very much needed to do the case due to anxiety attacks so I had to drop the case and a paedophile is now walking free. The system failed.
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  7. Diversity quotas are racist by definition.
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  8.  @rainbowvisionart8025  yep. What you're describing is pattern-based learning which all humans do as a survival instinct. Then you rational side comes into play to reason through that it applies generally based on the behaviour and not simply the way someone looks.
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  9.  @janetclark5668  yeah but that's not the point and maybe her daughter wasnt there at that particular moment. Point is saying "mixed-race" isnt wrong. I mean it was only yesterday that halfcaste was being seen as wrong by some. Mixed-race is a perfect descriptor for those people because not all mixed kids are half and half. Its was ideal for the census forms to use that. I mean are they going to use the terms "POC" "BAME" "BIPOC" or "Black" on census forms now?
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  10.  @robertmacdonaldch5105  he has flashed his victim card. Check his interview/debate with Calvin Robinson. Barnes tried to claim only black people get followed in shops and that he didnt get management position because of his race.
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  11.  @aidanjohnkelly  you acknowledge he has privelege as a high-paid footballer then claim he was far from priveleged.
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  12.  @aidanjohnkelly  what priveleges did his fellow white players have that he didnt?
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  13.  @Torquemadia  he said crap and what makes you assume the other guests are right-wing? Im a leftie btw but you far leftists are bonkers.
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  14.  @manofculture584 but they question others who come on the show. They brought up the homicide stats for young black boys and John assumed the stats were higher due to racism. How can black on black crime be due to racism. They tried to bring it up again and he skipped over it again.
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  15.  @kind-hearted-thievesjoe1512  Jamaicans came here in the late 40s. Plus when black, World War II vets came here they said we treated them as if they weren't black which inspired them so much they started The Civil Rights Movement when they went back to US.
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  16. He certainly judges white people.
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  17.  @Michelle_Wellbeck  yep.
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  18.  @honestjohn6418  diversity quotas are intentional. Not sure if you know what I'm referring to. I'm.not talking about racial disparities. Or is it the word used to describe diversity quotas ie systemic racism that you take objection with?
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  19.  @honestjohn6418  Systemic means in the system. Affirmative action is in the UK system and its racist against white people. It seems like we're having a semantic arguement and those dont usually go anywhere when people dont agree on definitions. Think "public school system" if that helps the definition make sense.
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  20.  @honestjohn6418  I like how you say "its helpful to know that" in a condescending tone when I was the one saying it's a semantic argument and making the point about diff definitions.🙄😂 You agreed affirmative action exists and is wrong but you dont define it as systemic. I do based on the fact it's in our schooling "system". Hence why it's a semantic argument. If you wish to call it systematic that's fine. I dont know what you think they mean by systemic and why you therefore think it doesnt exist. Perhaps you could explain or give an example of what you think they mean.
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  21.  @honestjohn6418  never seen systemic racism defined as unintentional. So I'm going with the way I've seen it defined. You're talking about unintended outcomes that arent driven by racism. I'm talking about ones that are. It's a semantic arguement Im not bending to as it's the first time I've ever seen anyone define it this way. You use your definition and I'll use mine. I actually prefer the term institutional. It's less similar to either of the words we're using so less confusion and it's the word they used back in the 70s.
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  22.  @honestjohn6418  you're the one coming up with new definitions. I'm not playing into it. Sorry if that doesnt go with whatever plan you had to overthrow the use of the word. And you're literally repeating what I already said about institutional racism being the word they originally used for it in the 70s. Why are you repeating that point back to me? This is why I hate semantics arguments. They go nowhere because we're working with diff definitions. All the dictionaries and material I've read says I'm right and you're wrong so agree to disagree. **unfollowing
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  23.  @honestjohn6418  can you link me to material that shows this defintion predating the 70s def?
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  24.  @honestjohn6418  I already looked the other day when we first started this arguement aswell as the etymology and nothing backs what you said so I am asking specifically for your sources. "Public school system" system. System-ic. Of the system. Anyway, think what you want. This is why I didnt want to cater to a semantic debate. If you dont have the sources that's fine. I thought as much. unfollowing *
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  25.  @rickgoblok1625  only experienced 3 white people make racist comments and one was from an older woman and the other two were young. And I'm in my 40s.
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  26.  @Billy-oh4bb  I'm not including online where racist comments are rampant from all races. I'm in my 40s and before I got on social media I'd experienced two racist comments from white people. And one offline since I've been on social media. If we include social media then that isnt an accurate reflection of real life interactions. Even if we rewind ten years and act like social media doesnt exist there was literally two racist comments by white people within the first 30 years of my life. Including social media discrimination would be silly due to the unnatural amount of interactions we have online.
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  27. They concluded it wasnt widespread
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  28.  @rieskorin2027  actually yes. You think you know more than the race report. And whites suffer systemic racism due to diversity quotas. As for Windrush I grew up around them and maybe only a few have hangups like Barnes. The rest think normally.
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  29.  @rieskorin2027  nope. Diversity quotas are a real thing. If you havent heard of them before then fair enough but to make out they dont exixts without researching them first means you're likely the one going with your feelings. I'm def going with facts here.
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  30.  @rieskorin2027  just read your comment again and you acknowledged diversity quotas. So which comment did you feel I was using feelings with? That only a few of Windrush have hangups? I dont mean literally a few. I meant a minority. Also your second comment you said only Windrush suffered systemic racism but your following comment you acknowledged diversity quotas. Honestly, not sure if you're trolling. Whatever. It's not worth nitpicking over as your saying one thing and then another. unfollowing
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  31. What is "Melanic"? And why are you capitalising mid-sentence?
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  32. Oh my god! What an unnecessarily long essay. Melanic isnt even a word let alone a title. As for those others you capitalised, all but one is a country. Melanic isnt a country/region. I'm not reading the rest of your unnecessary comment. Edit: screw it, I did. "Uncouth" to use an adjective descriptor? You sound very pompous. As for African-American noone is talking about them or whether we should call then that. I'm not from US and neither is the interview you're commenting under. In UK those peope would just be called black. "We as a society". Again, you're under a British video. We over here didnt label your lot anything. Here black people are called British along with every other race living here. Your unrelated, self-important rant had nothing to do with what I asked. Do you feel better that you tried to sound all intellectual? You sounded like an acadamia toff. Melanic is not a group of people. It's a retarded word you made up. Grow up ffs. And who said we use race to represent culture? What? Race and culture are not the same thing. Why are Americans so damn weird?
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  33. By defintion John is the hypocritical racist
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  34. He started very defensive/ego for me from the off.
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  35.  @moodyonroody5313  that John needs to stop harping on abou the past and blaming white people for shit we didnt do.
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  36. He was talking about himself. He is racist about white people, he said he sees women as less. Hes like Robin D'angelo. Striaght projection.
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  37.  @StupStups  that isnt bias but it gets translated as such. It's just how neurons work. If you mention one thing next to another whether you have bias or not your mind will remember that thought. It doesnt mean it's your own personal feeling on that thing even if the thought came up due to the associated trigger thought. Yet many people wont realise that and feel shame that they have bias when they dont.
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  38. He also believes in white privilege and once claimed only black people get followed in stores.
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  39.  @joangordoneieio  I've only exprienced 3 racist comments from white people in UK and I'm in my 40s. And I heard more racist comments from black people. My main social group is black. Too many paranoid people claim the is racism without evidence. If we just called when we actually saw it the world would be much better off.
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  40.  @Electriclentilman  Ok. I'm intrigued. Gonna watch a bit. :)
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  41. Cant stand this dude. He claimed only black people get followed in stores, demonstrably not true as I've been followed and also followed older white women where I've worked as I once got robbed by a pensioner CCTV footage proved it, and he thinks he didnt make manager due to race. Perhaps it was his poor attitude and chip on his shoulder or he just wasnt as good as the other person. I dont think I can be arsed to watch the interview because hes racist imo or at the very least has a huge arse chip on his shoulder. But big ups on giving all voices a platform.
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  42. .Wait what? But mixed race is the new term people use. It's on Census forms. I still use halfcaste. You wouldnt ask "who is that girl of colour?" as "POC" isnt used that way and many non-whites hate that term anyway. Mixed-race is generally accepted as the most accepted term in UK above any of the others.
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  43.  @spracketskooch  haha. My friend once wanted to piss her black boyfriend off after an arguement so she made him a Valentines card for him and he opened it all smiley only to find "from your mongrel bitch girlfriend" inside. I dont know if he called her it for a joke once but let's say he wasnt amused.😂
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  44. It doesnt hit a nerve. The guy is a paranoid racist.
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