Comments by "R K." (@DarkAngel2512) on "Police Are “Stuck Between A Rock And A Hard Place” When Policing Protests" video.

  1. Prepared for trouble
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  2. There were def some far-right people there. Many werent. But lets not lie and act like a police presence shouldn't have been there
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  3. Def were some far right ppl there causing trouble sadly
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  4. Because of bus routes. One bus driver is under Paul Thorpe's video explaining this. It was about congestion. Same as Notting Hill Carnival.
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  5. Aswell as Mayher Tousi and Paul Thorpe's page
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  6. So saying "eff Palestine" "Palestinian supportors not welcome" "Rishi should go back to where he came from" etc isnt far-right? Yes they are the fringe but those ppl did attend and there were yobs barging and being abusive to police. Even prominent speakers that day were involved in this behaviour.
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  7. Police do the same at carnival and ppl dont disrespectfully mob and barge them. Its emabrrassing and indefensible.
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  8. Wrong. That crowd pushed up on police. And even later in the day people were being drunk and abusive to police. You cant just yell racist stuff and barge police and expect to be let through. Use some common sense. One yute was being racist right before that crowd barged police. Footage doesnt lie.
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  9. Prob because Tommy can be a bit far right. Saying ppl who support Palestine arent welcome...my friend is half Eng/half Palestinian. Tommy is being divisive. I respect what he has doen re grooming gangs but his rhetoric about Palestine is not helping.
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  10. Dude there was literally people on video saying racist stuff. Acting like there were no fringe extremists there does not help the cause. Dont fall into that trap. Call them out and distance yourself from them. Otherwise it looks like youre defending them.
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  11.  @paulineashcroft1485  exactly.
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  12. Footage shows there were racist thugs there. Case closed
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  13. They need to be there for thebsame reason as Notting Hill Carnival. To cordone off no-go areas like Trafalgar Square due to bus routes, to reduce congestion and to keep trouble makers out. That was what they were trying to do
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  14. Im glad police were there. There were racist yobs there causing trouble. Even ones who werent being racist were drunk and abusive. They literally demonstrated why they should be there. The clip showed people barging through police. I was watching Mayher Tousi's live and some yute yelled "eff Palestine" seconds before that crowd barged police. Also the police were trying to prevent congestion at Trafalgar Square due to buses as one bus driver has come out and confirmed. There is footage of people being abusive to police and getting up in their face. Police need to be there just as theyre there at Notting Hill Carnival. People that day made our side look bad.
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  15. You can see them on the footage yelling abuse and barging police and being racist
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  16. On Mayher's live the crowd mobbed police and police tried to hold them back. Its the same footage shown in this video.
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  17. The reason they were cordoned off is Trafalgar needed the bus route free and those particular yobs pushing police were trouble makers.
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  18. ​ @ade3628 the video proves its rubbish. Just to clarify Im someone who wanted to attend that day and wants to vote Reform. But Im mot going to lie. Both sides need to call out their own extremists or as one person has said this movement is going to tank.
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  19. ​ @samanthaostrowski6755 the footage shows what happened. Many of us were watching Mayher and Paul and Shaedy's live footage. Yobs barged police and there were far-right racists and yobs there. Sorry but footage all over internet of it
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  20. ​ @jenniferparry8709 they cordoned off congestion due to buses at Trafalgar. They do the same for Notting Hill Carnival. Its normal. There were trouble makers yelling racist stuff and pushing up on police. Police were trying to keep them out and rightfully so.
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  21. ​ @markmorrid8144 whats wrong with supporting Palestine. Not the same as supporting Hamas. My friend is half English and half Plaestinian. What dyu want her to do? Why cant she attend both? Why did Tommy say no Palestine supporters allowed on June 1st? Why create division?
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  22. ​ @helda4850 Mayher isnt Muslim to my knowledge.
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  23. ​ @grash4435 to claim everyone of an ethnic group is the same religion is a nonsense.
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  24.  @jenniferparry8709  I think you dont know what that word means. Im saying how I feel.
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  25. Prob due to congestion or being tipped off yobs were on their way.
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  26. Many countries adopted St George as their saint though
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  27. Its to reduce congestion and protect bus routes and keep yobs out
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  28.  @SAHBfan  I dunno. Havent watched any. Im referring to what happened at St George's Day and police did their job which ppl are saying they shouldnt have. So if they shouldnt do their job on St George's ppl cant complain about it not being done on the Palestine marches. The only ppl who can complain are those being consistant and saying the police should do their job on both days.
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  29.  @SAHBfan  as I said that isnt my arguement. My issue is ppl saying the police were wrong on the day. Im not saying they are right on the Palestinian marches. Youre taking up a diff topic with me to the one Im debating.
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  30.  @SAHBfan   @SAHBfan  I didnt see footage of police being heavy-handed on SGD. That isnt to say it didnt happen but when ppl post videos claiming police were acting up and I watch it and its the opposite then like anything I will be sceptical and need evidence. There are videos of police confronting pro-Palestine protestors who were being rowdy. For me Im sick of the generalizing and dishonesty on both sides. There are people at the pro-Palestine events saying disgusting things about Jews and bringing swastikas. I call them out aswell. Similarly there are a handful of racist thugs at St George's Day. I see it from both sides and will call out the idiots from both sides because I dont want this division nor violence. I also dont want to be associated with it and deemed as either a far-right racist or far-left racist. I want things back the way they were.
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  31.  @SAHBfan  I didnt see footage of police being heavy-handed on SGD. That isnt to say it didnt happen but when ppl post videos claiming police were acting up and I watch it and its the opposite then like anything I will be skeptical and need evidence. There are videos of police confronting pro-Palestine protestors who were being rowdy. For me Im sick of the generalizing and dishonesty on both sides. There are people at the pro-Palestine events saying disgusting things about J3...ws and bringing swæsstikas. I call them out aswell. Similarly there are a handful of racist thugs at St George's Day. I see it from both sides and will call out the idiots from both sides because I dont want this division nor violence. I also dont want to be associated with it and deemed as either a far-right racist or far-left racist. I want things back the way they were.
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  32.  @SAHBfan  ppl have posted videos claiming police were acting up and watching the video its the opposite so Im now very skeptical. There are videos of police confronting pro-Palestine protestors who were being rowdy. For me Im sick of the generalizing and dishonesty on both sides. There are people at the pro-Palestine events saying disgusting things about J...3..ws and bringing swa....stikas. I call them out aswell. Similarly there are a handful of racist thugs at St George's Day. I see it from both sides and will call out the idiots from both sides because I dont want this division nor violence. I also dont want to be associated with it and deemed as either a far-right racist or far-left racist. I want things back the way they were.
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  33.  @SAHBfan  ok so my comment keeps getting yeeted. Basically both sides have extremists. I dont know why ppl dont call both out. I do.
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  34.  @SAHBfan  and there are videos of police dealing with extremists at the other "sides" events.
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  35.  @SAHBfan  It keeps doing it. I just replied on Shaedy's latest video about St George's Day. Have to edit any potential offensive worda to try keep my comment up
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  36.  @SAHBfan  its just done it again to mine 😭😭
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  37.  @SAHBfan  yep. Same. I used the phrase "drown out" and Youtube didnt like it.
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  38. It literally wasn. Mayher Tousi's live showed yobs being racist and barging police. Footage showed drunk people being abusive to police getting up in their faces. And aome of the speeches were divisive. It wasnt like St Paddy's Day celebrations.
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  39. ​ @jake751 this. And tbh people arent even lying. They really do see it that way. Paul Thorpe made a video showing that clip at the beginning and his genuine interpretation was that police were in the wrong. I just dont think we have much hope when two ppl can watch the same footage and come away with completely diff takes on it
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  40. ​​ @lulusbackintown1478 they couldn't go Traflager due to buses. One bus driver confirmed this in the comments of Paul Thorpe's video. And sometimes the left hand doesnt know what the right is doing. At Notting Hilll Carnival its the same with police cordoning off areas. People dont try to barge police. They respectfully accept it and find another route. These yobs are seen barging through and have proven exactly why police needed to be there to begin with. Disrespectful. They didnt even wait two seconds to conversate and investivate and reason with police. With one yelling racist crap just before they barged through. Mayher Tousi's live footage doesnt lie.
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  41. Not you. But there were some far right ppl there. One woman on The Times interview saying Rishi should go back to where he came from.
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  42.  @roberttownsend339  indeed.
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  43. There were some far right ppl there though. Call them out the same way we would extremists on The Left.
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  44. They didnt get a chance to explain as yobs pushed them immediately
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  45. Because of Trafalgar Sqaure bus routes
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  46. A boy was yelling out raciat stuff and seconds later a massive crowd barged police. What dyu want them to do when met with trouble makers? Id rather they keep them out of the festivities.
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  47.  @MalcolmSmith-fo4sn  Police very much dealt with ppl at Palestine protests and there are videos to prove that.
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  48.  @abcxyz4176  I saw it on video.
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  49. Pretty sure noone is accusing everyone in attendance of being far right😂😂 but lets not pretend none were there
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  50. Its on Mayer Tousi's live
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  51. There were some far-right ppl there. Lets not lie. Its on camera. Doesnt mean everyone there was as footage also shows regular ppl
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  52.  @thewatchman6074  one woman on video was saying "Rishi needs to go back to where he came from". A yob was saying "eff Palestine" just before a mob surged through police and Tommy was saying no Palestine supportors at June 1st. My friend is half Eng/half Palestinian. Where is she meant to go to feel welcomed?! Marching for innocent Palestinians doesn't mean someone supports Hamas. But ppl are driving a wedge. Extremists should be called out or the movement is going to tank. Plus Id rather distance myself from those being racist.
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  53.  @thewatchman6074   there is a bus driver under Paul Thorpe's video explaining they couldn't let ppl go Trafalgar due to bus routes. And on Mayer Tousi's live there is a yob yelljng "eff Palestine" just before a mob descends on police. Police were were right to keep them out. Where did I claim everyone should support Palestine? And you call me the liar. Not making yourself look good here. Also on The Times interview one woman was being racist anout Rishi saying he should go back to where he came from. People can have diff points of view. But I find being racist and divisive unhelpful. And I agree disagreement doesnt make someone far right.
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  54. Notting Hill Carnival is a celebration but due to the amount of ppl and potential trouble they need police. Ppl kicked off here so police were demonstrably needed
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  55. One bus driver confirmed people coulsnt head towards Trafalgar due to bus routes plus if yobs are causing trouble they wont allow them in. One yob was yelling racist crap seconds before that mob rammed police. You can see it on the footage
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  56. ​​ @O.O.O.K999 Mayher' live literally shows the yobs pushing on police and police trying to hold them back. Go Specsavers. You make our side look like we're a bunch of liars or stupid. If this is how I can expect ppl to view their own and others actions Im def not attending a St George's event because it seems ppl are out to cause trouble whilst ppl literally act like its normal behaviour. Even Lawrence Fox acting like a total tool in police officers faces drunk and abusive.
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  57. Because crowds barged police
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  58. This! Yobs literally acted out.
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  59. Yobs did actually. Watch the footage
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  60. Did you not see the speeches that Tommy, Lawrence and others made? Tommy was saying Palestinian supporters arent welcome on June 1st. Why? Cant peaceful Palestinian supporters attend both? My friend is half English/half Palestinian. Lawrence being drunk and abusive to police. I was disappointed in both of their behaviour.
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  61.  @millies500  youre not in their heads to assume what theyre supporting. You can make up your own reality but cant make up your own facts
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  62.  @millies500  Tommy has said Palestine supportors not welcome on June 1st. He lost me when he said that
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  63.  @Midland_Wolf_71  you assume everyone went to where Tommy and Lawrwnce were.
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  64.  @millies500  youre wrong. Not everyone at those marches hates society. They just dont want Palestinians being killed. You cant just put ppl in boxes. That would be like saying people at St St George's Day all hate immigrants or other races. My friend is half Eng/half Eng/half Palestinian. Stop excluding people and forcing them to take sides. Youre also assuming the people at the Palestine marches are all immirgants. Smh. Im really just here shaking ny head right now at your skewed viewpoint.
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  65.  @millies500  youre wrong. Not everyone at those marches hates society. They just dont want Palestinians being offed. You cant just put ppl in boxes. That would be like saying people at St St George's Day all hate immigrants or other races. My friend is half Eng/half Eng/half Palestinian. Stop excluding people and forcing them to take sides. Youre also assuming the people at the Palestine marches are all immigrants. Smh. Im really just here shaking my head right now at your skewed viewpoint.
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  66.  @millies500  youre wrong. Not everyone at those marches hates society. They just dont want Palestinians being killed. You cant just put ppl in boxes. That would be like saying people at St George's Day all hate immigrants or other races. My friend is half Eng/half Eng/half Palestinian. Stop excluding people and forcing them to take sides. Youre also assuming the people at the Palestine marches are all immirgants. Smh. Im really just here shaking my head right now at your skewed viewpoint.
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  67.  @millies500  youre assuming everyone at those marches are immigrants or there supporting Hamas. Tony is alienating those who are centrists.
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  68. So Tommy saying no Palestinian supportors allowed on June 1st and one woman saying Rishi should go home isnt a bit far-righty? Cant people like my half Eng/half Palestinian friend attend both? Tommy is sewing division. He should have said anyone welcome whoo supports being English. Instead he is provoking division and saying supporting Palestine is a bad thing. Many ppl just feel bad for the innocent ppl killed on both Palestine and Israel side. Why do ppl have to pick sides ffs
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  69.  @Luthien60-h2j  if thats who you are and have been called names for then no. But there were def far right types there. Ive seen the footage. One woman saying Rishi should go back to where he came from
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  70.  @Luthien60-h2j  yep. Its The Times interview if you want to see. I just prefer to distance myself from ppl like her. Im likely going to vite Reform but as someone with friends of diff races I will let ppl know I am not of that woman's mindset.
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