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Comments by "Hallands Menved" (@Hallands.) on "Дэн Деннетт о нашем сознании" video.
swift73ify Apprentice: Who listens to my thoughts? Master: That is correct! Apprentice: I don't understand. Master: That is correct, too...
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Mystic Dreamer Yes, you're right of course. Were consciousness an illusion, nothing would be real. Consciousness is the awareness of thoughts, perceptions and feelings. The professor is stuck on the dream-level where mind and consciousness are presumed to be more or less the same.
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Naimul Haq Consciousness and thoughts are two very different phenomena! The first is the awareness of the second. Thoughts are mental forms. The perception and awareness there of is formless. It is the witness, the who of what we are, whereas the identification with ideas is the what of what we are - the understanding of self as opposed to the actual self...
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swift73ify You unconsciously presume that "physical stuff" produce consciousness... Why? It seems evident to me that consciousness is absolute, formless, eternal and - far from being "produced" - the creator, causing all forms to be.
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swift73ify There's an even bigger problem achieving consensus on what constitutes "self"...
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swift73ify I believe this qoutes you verbatim: "How can we know whether the 'physical stuff' that creates our consciousness is devoid of experience?" That's how I concluded that you, presumably unconsciously, are in the habit of thinking that the brain somehow creates consciousness...
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swift73ify It was exactly verbatim, no matter the reference. Anyhow, no slur intended by "habit" whatsoever. Just the iteration of the philosophical school pointed to the mind as being built of habits. To begin thinking different means a change of habits...
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