Comments by "Sedna063" (@Sedna063) on "U32 - German Submarine Soldiers | Full Documentary" video.

  1. Nah, the US Navy needs more Seawolfs. The Type 212 is great but it serves the fleet interests of a littorial nation, not that of a blue water navy.
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  2. You mean those subs who can be heard through the entire ocean
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  3. Germany has torpedoes (DM2A4 Seehecht) but why should we take them to a training? We won’t use them and they are ammo.
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  4.  @marklester9679  First of all, Germany doesn't have the expertise to run nuclear subs and then we lack nuclear technicians. Secondly, the SSNs are far too large for the operation area of the German submarines. As members of NATO, we are tasked to stop the Russian baltic fleet and keep them in the baltic sea and help to stop any advancement along the North sea or Norwegian coast. Those are littorial waters and an SSN wouldn't fit. Against a P8, they carry some submarine launched anti air missiles (Iris-T variant)
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  5. There are way more important defining features of an elite crew than shiny boots and posture.
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  6. Those hybrid subs are extremely quiet. Nuclear subs have always some currents in their reactors and active pumps that generate a constant noise level. A diesel-electric sub does not. It is so quiet that they managed to pass through a carrier strike group. And they are more than enough to sink any Russian sub in the baltic sea. And it is not a really offensive weapon or a counter strike platform (even if Israel uses them)
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  7. Maybe because those boats serve an entire different purpose.
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  8. Do you want 18th century discipline style that favour appearance over combat skill or do you want combat skill. This was one of the reasons why the Wehrmacht was good. They didn't spend much time parading the fields or ironing their uniforms / polishing their shoes. They were trained for combat though. Combat doesn't care for nice salutes and uniforms, combat cares for the skill. I would rather serve with those guys than with someone who spend the days perfecting a salute.
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  9.  @chrisntheboat  You know that this kind of disciplin is not useful at all? Trust me that they are very good soldiers. By the way, the Wehrmacht didn't really care for wrinkles in the uniforms either. They also didn't make them parade so that they do it spotless. They rather trained them in actual warfare, not ironing.
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  10. They aren't as fast or as enduring but that isn't their job. Those submarines are adapted to function in littorial waters and they truly excel there. They can block the Russian navy inside the baltics and impede any movement or amphibious landing in the mediterrean or north or baltic sea as it is there job. They obviously could travel in the Atlantic ocean as well. They are extremely quiet and can be used to gather intelligence. The Russian / American subs are larger and have much different roles. They have to find the other SSBMs and kill them. They are faster, more heavily armed but not quieter and they are less able to hide in the littorial waters.
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  11. What is your problem with the German navy?
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  12.  @tembot6363  Well, it can that was the entire point. Note that they can't drive 20 knots all the time because fuel for the CSG is something to consider. The sub just needs to be in the right place at the right time. Well, a CSG is noisy as hell. Several surface units plus jets - sounds travel very well under water.
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  13. We go on a training exercise. We won’t kill someone with a torpedo and why take it when we don’t even plan to use it?
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  14.  @addisonsteiner6473  Lol, the English Channel and the North and Baltic seas are very safe with no chance for war .
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  15. And what did they learn? That they have a galley? That they have an AIP unit on board? That they have a modern bridge? They did not learn specs, they did not see any details of critical technology. They learned the cook may be overworked and that is basically it. What have you learned that could influence the war or fighting capability of Russia against this submarine?
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  16. Do you always drive torpedoes around for exercises that will not see those fired? No, why should we?
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  17. At least our army doesn’t brutalise their own soldiers. And our chancellor did not change the constitution to stay in power.
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  18. Sonar and the oceans are big. Yet it happened before that boats collided. If you are submerged deep, you don’t communicate. You may use a small detachment and tug it behind you but that makes noise. Most times a boat would go to periscope depth and specific intervals. Germany doesn’t have a nuclear deterren
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  19. Sure....
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  20. Not really.
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  21. Very few nations have the need for nuclear boats. We aren’t one of them. AIP suits us fine
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  22. And who are you to make such claims?
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  23.  @michaelgodbee5361  It can operate anywhere. However, whether it makes sense operating it is another thing.
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  24. Germany doesn't need 20 subs. Why, we aren't a blue water navy and have little coast. In NATO our task is to stop Russia from escaping into the North sea and keep them trapped in the baltic sea (with Denmark). The atlantic would be American, British, Canadian, French playground. Germany is far more an air power and land power.
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  25. Germany doesn’t need nuclear subs. We have never been a naval nation. In case of war, we would make littorial waters and the baltics a slaughterhouse for enemies
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  26.  @Predator42ID  The nuclear fuel costs far more than the O2 and H2 for the German sub. You also need to resurface after your food stuff is gone. And you can't really operate in littorial waters as this German boat is intended to (It is decidedly not there to patrol the Russian shore in the arctic).
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  27. Do you think they will fire live torpedos for an exercise? Nope.
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  28. Slow orders are likelier to be understood.
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  29. And what did you learn that would be relevant?
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  30. Meat is part of a healthy diet and on a submarine, meat helps to lift the mood. I would sink myself if we got Tofu instead.
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  31.  @wooyoung2154  I think German submariners want something they know during their mission.
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  32.  @theartificialsociety3373  And what if I don't want a meatless life? It tastes good. It provides a lot of nutrition. Human gastrointestinal system is adapted to a omnivore lifestyle. I doubt the navy would find happy soldiers when they introduce total vegetarian lifestyle. Live and let live. You don't want to have a lifestyle break in your mission. You want something you like. Not an experiment. And if you want vegetarian, I am sure the chef on board has some veggies for you. But I continue my meat.
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  33. The Artificial Society Well, I don’t want to live 30 days on celery. Eat what you want and let me eat what I want. Deal? As long as I don’t force you you don’t have a right to force me so that is much different compared to smoking. I am studying medicine so I am quite aware of healthy diets. To that belong some types of meat, obviously not in the quantities that have become the norm. Live a year on vegetables and non-diary and non-meats and I guarantee you that you are going to lack some vitamins and minerals. By the way, meat provides a lot of energy (It has been hypophesised that only meat allowed us to develop the brain we have).
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  34. The Artificial The Artificial Society „amongst the least informed people on proper diet“ lol. I don’t study nutrition full time but depending on the university (and country) you absolutely have some courses regarding that. I had one a year or so ago. There are some ingredients in meat that are far more abundant than in plants. Digesting iron from plants is very inefficient for the body (it is mostly iii-valent in plants whereas we can only take up ii-valent iron). Other minerals can lack, so can some vitamins like B12 (might take some time but some doctors I know have pressed this issue). I am neither addicted and I don’t think I have a big attitude. That seems to be you. You want to tell the German navy how to feed their soldiers based on your belief of meat-free food. Well, our navy spends millions to provide the best meal choice for optimal health and moral of our submarines. Did so for the past 100 years. Likewise Astronauts get meat because they want it and from a nutritional point of view, meat is valuable. I am also not American but German but I would never generalise American doctors the way you do. I am becoming a doctor so that people get healthy again. I don’t know what kind of experiences you have, we in Germany always start with lifestyle modification before we give pills. American costs lie not exclusively with meat but mostly due to sugar syrup and administrative costs. Processed food is the big enemy, not meat per se. A homemade sunday roast or Phad Thai with chicken homemade are healthy meat options. Proper diet uses a base of cereals, potatoes and other long carbs, vegetables, fats and oils, and meat.
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  35. They can carry 18 Torpedoes or so. Guided ones at that
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  36. They need a small sub because the baltic sea and north sea are very small
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  37. Probably the cheapest
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  38.  @Predator42ID  13 torpedoes or 24 mines.
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  39. Both of you are correct. While nuclear subs would have the enormous tactical advantage, they loose it closer to littorial waters, where his thing rules
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  40. It takes more energy to harvest it than they have...
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  41. Kursk design is only bad when you are Russian and do not train adequately and store torpedos wrong. Trust me, your radars aren't infalliable either. Russian crew members can get sick too. Smelly feet aren't nice.
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  42. We aren’t in a war and are not running a combat mission. Why take them with us?
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  43. Europe spends far more money on care than on military. By the way, the government should not be a provider for everything.
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  44. Love them, never had flatulence
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  45. Descriptions are one thing. The real thing is still covered.
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  46. Diesel and AIP is the best thing for littorial waters. Nuclear subs serve a different purpose. Apparently, your knowledge is scarce
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  47. Sure. That wouldn’t make them angry....
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  48. Cause size matters. The bigger the submarine the more powerful (and expensive) the propulsion system becomes. The bigger the sub the more steel you need to keep it stable as pressures on the hull increase.
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  49. We could but that guy would need to be housed somewhere.
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  50. And what ships are Turks sinking now?
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  51. They will always make noise. Nuclear power always needs pumps or convection currents that inevitably cause noise.
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  52. You are aware that they could choose what they buy, that they have a ton of vegetables and that we want crispy chicken.
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  53. It can carry more than 6 torps..... and those toprs are guided
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