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@randomguyontheinternet4499 How can you accidentally make a Nazi salute? Do you normally stretch your arms, wrists and fingers at 45°?
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@griffithsrababy3601 Lol what? I can mention our history every single day. I just shouldn't spread the Nazi salute because it represents an ideology that killed 11 million in a genocide and caused the most catastrophic war of all times. So there is a reason that there is a limit on the salute.
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JamesOnFlames Definitely. Yet a nazi salute is not a normal hand movement.
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That is nice. Doesn''t change that it is perverted in Germany and it is forbidden for a reason.
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If your travel plans consisted of showing the most hated symbol of our past free on our streets, insulting us and the victims, please stay away.
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It‘s a school lesson. Sports cannot just be running and playing. Swimming is important for a well-rounded sports education.
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@zero next As I said, that is nice. It doesn't change the fact that it has been hijacked by the Nazi party and has become a symbol for this regime.
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They can do what they like but school is mandatory for everyone
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Swimming lessons are part of school. If she misses school for any reason other than sick leave; that’s not ok. Attending classes is mandatory in Germany.
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You would have loved the SS-Totenkopf, wouldn't you?
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That's actually not France. ANd no, not dictatorship
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No such thing here
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The hand movement for waving and Nazi salutes are quite different....
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@silverpleb2128 France wasn't right and the EF wasn't wrong. Germany doesn't operate bombers and the Typhoon, if upgraded, would be capable to replace it.
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Lol what?
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It is not about hiding the past. It is about not spreading nazist ideology and symbols. Our past is quite present
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Hayfer Fadi We are. Freedom is not just the right to make Nazi salutes though. Driving on the left in the US is forbidden, does it mean you are unfree?
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So you want us to allow the Nazi salute to become self aware so that we might start WW3 and continue what we started in WW2?
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If you are regularly missing classes they will demand you go to a state-employed doctor who cannot just give out exemptions like a normal doctor
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Ehm yes, you can express yourself. However, if you think that making Nazi salutes in front of the German parliament is ok, then we disagree. It is insulting to Germans, the victims of WW2. Try it and be lucky if you don't get punched in the face. Nobody however hinders you to make your views on politics public. We even have the NPD (which is pretty much Nazi reloaded). Insignificant but it shows that we have freedom of expression.
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Germany has a long history of public swimming - including under conservative leadership
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Ever been here? I can assure you that there is freedom of speech. Article 5 of the german constitution.
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@Heatherder starting a world war and genocide isn’t based or eüic
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Francis There are a lot of RCS reductions on the EF, far more than on the F16. Top
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Excuse me, do you work in hospitals?
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Show it in Germany and you have little excuse...
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user-zj2qw1mo7b The swimming lessons are mandatory as school is mandatory here. There is swimwear for her. Nobody bats an eye if she wears a modest swimsuit… Well - most would rather love here
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user-zj2qw1mo7b No. Education is a right and a duty. Physical education belongs to that too. It is mandatory to attend maths, physics and German lessons, so is PE. And with PE comes gymnastics, games and eventually, the basics of swimming. You can’t opt out because German law trumps religion. Freedom of religion doesn’t mean freedom from education. Germany is quite accommodating to cases like her.
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It takes decades to replace a fighter jet. Starting now, they can replace in the 2040s when the EF would be a 60 year design.
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Nobody forces her to undress. This ain’t a nude area
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@failedabortion1894 it isn't something remotely to joke about.
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Yes - because this is a school event and attendance at school is mandatory in Germany.
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@شعلة-ل1ن It is in Germany.
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hodei segurola For gestures they made 70 years ago and have been outlawed for decades.
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Religious law doesn’t stand above German laws. Religious freedoms do not supercede German laws. School attendance is mandatory, swimming is part of school lessons. She can cover with a Burkini etc but her religious views do not trump the laws of the land.
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Because this is Germany where we don’t have sex segregation. And neither are people naked.
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What communists lol
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No she cannot. School is mandatory in Germany and swimming classes are mandatory. Her religious freedom ends here.
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We don’t have that here lol.
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They don't understand it because their history class really suffered. Those are right-wingers that see anything that "infringes" their rights as illegal and unconstitutional. They have no idea how offensive that is doing that in Germany. Yet I guess 99% of those guys would want to throw out people if they kneel for the anthem or burn their flag.
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Because classes are mandatory in Germany. This is a school event. If she doesn’t want to swim in her free time that is her choice but if she wants to avoid disciplinary actions from school she will have to go. Easy concept
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If you have no idea about things, don’t shout your opinion; it makes you look stupid.
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John Parr no. The salute is a symbol for one of the worst regimes in history which killed millions just based on some perverted look on ethnicity. It is highly offensive to anyone; especially those who suffered under the regime. If you cannot understand that, you must be stupid. By the way, there is freedom of speech in Germany. And freedom of expression. You can absolutely speak out.
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John Parr I talk about the Nazis..... if you want me to take you seriously, you should stop those silly little things. Germany has free speech and freedom of expression. Even your America has some sort of limits on this..... But I see; unless you can salute the way nazis did you aren’t free. I won’t change your mind; just know that you are in the wrong and that freedom of speech is codified in our constitution and enforced. Hate speech doesn’t fall under this protection because it violates article one of our constitution „human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority”. Making this salute violates the dignity of all victims and this weighs more than your perceived unfreedom to exercise your right to make a nazi salute. Better check your own country for inhibitions to freedoms.
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@johnparr347yrsand2 That is your opinion. Hate isn't free speech - racism isn't either. I talk back to you because you clearly have no idea about the German constitution and a very small understanding of the meaning of free speech - it does not mean that you can say anything at any time - in fact all nations have some limitation on free speech because there is no such thing as absolute freedom. You are very much allowed to make your points clear regardless of position but we draw a line when it comes to public displays of nazi ideology. I assume you are from America because frankly, you share the attitude of most right-wing idiots that typically come up with this nonsense that Germany isn't a free country. Additionally it isn't far fetched given your name. So anyway, you are wrong and I am right. Bye idiot and next time you want to lecture someone on rights and freedoms, choose another one.
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@johnparr347yrsand2 As I said, it was a reasonable assumption: English name - closeness to US conservative arguments and the fact that Americans are by far the largest group of english speakers.
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It is. However showing symbols of the worst dictatorship in history isn't really a thing. It is insulting to others and denigrates the dignity of the victims. Don't mistake freedom for anarchy. The US is free yet you have to pass a driving test to get a license.
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@merykejt5541 They can too. But unlike doctors who have their own private practice, state-employed doctors, also called „Amtsarzt“ are used only when officials suspect cheating. Those doctors first duty is objective neutrality. While bound by the same confidentiality laws that others are, an Amtsarzt cannot give false statements out (at least not knowingly) as many processes depend on their ruling. So an Amtsarzt will see right through the rouse.
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They didn't spend a day in prison.
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Don't be stupid.
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LOL. I bet you anything that my freedoms in Germany are a lot wider than yours.
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How? Religious freedom is guaranteed here. But religious freedom is not an excuse for everythibg
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Wrong
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Babylonian You can get executed in the US for being wrongly committed to murder..... As I explained elsewhere: Freedom of speech is guaranteed by our constitution. However, article 1 makes a requirement that the most important duty of the state is to preserve and protect human dignity because „Human dignity is invioable“. Given that showing support for a regime that killed millions on perverted ideas about race and ethnicity and that there are still victims alive, their dignity is more important than your freedom to voice support for nazism. It isn’t all black and white. In any country there are infringements on free speech.
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Babylonian you can call the police on me but they would either laugh at you or be angry with you for wasting their time..... In either way, it is completely inappropriate and false to compare such a scenario with the voiced support of a group that killed millions. For cases like your example, you could possibly try and go to court for slander or other kinds of this stuff. There are some laws existing like that in the US too! Nazism is an exception because supporters should not be able to spread symbols of enemies of the state. Try and raise an IS flag in your garden and then try to board a plane. By the way, Neonazis can protest on German street. But surely, it doesn’t fit your narrative.
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Mr. MagicMan Completely wrong. You get problems if you advertise their symbols.
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Classes are mandatory, outfit is not
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Did you confuse German and French?
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@keelfly Germany did not split from any weapons programm recently, while the French left the Eurofighter programm for example. The German version of the Eurofighter will be upgraded, the Brits were faster because they already retired their Tornados
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@keelfly France split because they wanted the majority of the manufacturing and basically an entirely different airplane, use a subpar engine and make a carrier adapted design which would serve no use for the other 4 nations in the programm. Get yourself educated please.
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