Comments by "Sedna063" (@Sedna063) on "How did ISRAEL turn the DESERT into an AGRICULTURAL POWER? - VisualPolitik EN" video.

  1. Did they do this in the Negev desert? As for stealing land, actually, most of the Jewish land was bought
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  2.  @semproniodensso3353  Actually yes. If Jews buy it and then form their own state then this isn’t theft.
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  3.  @adamuk8199  They purposefully misrepresent Apartheid. Israel doesn't practise Apartheid with Israeli Arabs. They are in parliament, they are in government, Arab Israelis sat on the surpreme court, can serve in the military and have the same rights as Jewish Israelis. What Amnesty and Co refer to is not what Apartheid originally was. The Palestinians are not Israelis - they therefore don't have the same rights.
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  4.  @adamuk8199  Good for you but Apartheid doesn't care where you are from... The South African Apartheid term is definitely not applicable to Israel proper.
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  5.  @adamuk8199  As someone who read extensively about history and doesn’t really have a side (neither Jewish, nor Arab or Muslim; not even the same continent) I can’t see Apartheid. Most certainly not the South African apartheid understanding.
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  6.  @nuramalina8050  Actually, HAMAS and other nations want them to disappear. We Christians and Jews are infidels according to many muslims. They even have schoolbooks where they call us infidels. Some arab muslim majority nations call for the destruction of Israel. IMHO, the Palestinians need to accept that Israel is there to stay. I also believe Israel shouldn’t make Jerusalem their capitol, neither should a Palestinian state. Jerusalem should be UN controlled. The Jewish settlements will remain behind but they won’t belong to Israel - they should belong to a Palestinian nation and the Jews living there should be a protected minority, like Arabs in Israel. Israel would be qualified to provide enough fresh water to the Arab nations around and in turn, they guarantee their right to existence in a peaceful coexistence. Syria will cease control over the Golan and get Israeli help for recovering. Jordan has enough land for solar energy which can be used to power Israel and Palestine.
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  7. It has been a highly arid region where farming and water usage of this scale could not be sustainable. Nope, Israel is not Palestine. American aid to Israel is primarily military aid that is spend on US arms projects. Not money they get for developing their agriculture. Furthermore, countries like Egypt and Pakistan also receive military aid. You can't steal something that has not existed before.
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  8. Why didn't Egypt? Since the 70s they received over 80 billion in support.
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  9. Their solution is desalination and extensive use of water conservation methods. Such as recycling over 90% of their household consumption water - which is then used for agriculture. Also not a reliance on water-intensive cash crops.
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  10. Largest space port in the world
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  11.  @semproniodensso3353  I don't care what the UN says. Most of their member nations break the human rights convention on a daily basis, including most Palestinian allies. Frankly, the UN doesn't have much power in this area. They are good when organising food supplies but real politics is way above them. Anyway, it would be illusoric for Israel to go back to pre-1967 borders. Why on earth would they give away this land that they cultivated for the past 54 years? Israel won't give away access to their holiest site in their religion; Jerusalem. They were forbidden pre-1967 to pray at Temple Mount; they still are but can pray on the wall. So long as the Palestinians won't guarantee their right to pray at the mount (where the Arabs built their Al-Aqsa) the Israelis won't leave. They would also not give up the Golan hights. That is prime strategic real estate. Syria used to fire artillery from the elevated position into Israeli territory pre-1967, and Israel doesn't want this to ever happen again. Plus, the new border with Syria will allow them to reach Damaskus much faster if Syrians ever attack them again. And by the way, they already gave the Sinai back to Egypt. They also offered peace deals right after 1967 to the arab nations who stupidly didn't take them. Egypt and Jordan later did. Suffice to say, Israel won't unilaterally move back the border. Israel can wait. Time is on their side. They get stronger, meanwhile the Arab nations no longer support Palestinians politically the way they did. If Palestinians think that Israel will go away and that they can return to pre-1967 more than 50 years later they are delusional. They need to realise that they are in the loosing position.
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  12.  @semproniodensso3353  Oh yes and the Palestinians started from day 1 to try to eradicate it... Didn't give a damn about the UN then... You forgot that
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  13.  @semproniodensso3353  The UN actually did something sensible with their land partition plan. Why throw Jews out from territory that they purchased legally?
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  14.  @semproniodensso3353  Good thing that there wasn’t a country in the 1940s and that Britain was the administration. Which they gave to the UN. Which then devised a plan largely around the Jewish and Arab areas.
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  15.  @semproniodensso3353  So now the UN is important but in 1948 one can ignore it lol. By the way, Palestine never existed and the Palestinians were never sovereign over this land!
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  16.  @simko8665  Absolutely correct. Most of the territory that is Israel was Negev desert and outside a few bedouins, nobody lived there, nobody owned the land.
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  17. You mean the mighty Gaza river? Or the Jordan river? Lol…
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  18. It doesn’t really rain a lot in some parts of the world duh
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  19. It’s a prove that with a comprehensive education programme and qualified planning you can accomplish anything
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  20. Actually they don’t steal the water. They take their fair share from the river Jordan and use it wisely. The reuse every bit of water from homes, treat it and then use it in agriculture. And they use a lot of desalination. So no, they don’t steal Palestinian water.
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  21.  @mab7727  It may seem phantastic to you, but they actually don’t depend on the Jordan river as much as they used to. That is what happens if you put your brain to problem solving and not missile production.
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  22. Probably a trade. Gas for water tech. Jordan can provide the cheap solar electricity to provide power for desalination
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  23.  @simko8665  And that is what I like about Jordan. They are pragmatic. Their governments are all about problem solving and realism. Unlike Saudi Arabia trying to buy their way out of trouble, Jordan smarty recognises opportunities. If more middle eastern countries were like Jordan, things would be much better
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  24.  @simko8665  Sure they do have problems. But they are still using a problem solving approach. Jordan has the best education system in the MENA region and actually a semblance of democracy outside Israel
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  25. 1. Israel stole nothing. They founded their state according to the UN partition plan in 1948. They even returned the captured Sinai peninsula to Egypt for a peace deal. West Bank, while occupied, is not annexed and could be returned if there was a willing peace deal in sight. Which unfortunately, it is not. 2. Unless you mean their desalination is the water resource of Palestinians, nope. 3. Other countries in the region received the same economic benefits from the US. Egypt for example. 4. Remittances are a major income for countries in the Arab world. Can't blame Israel for this. Yes, the middle ages. We are way past that time nowadays. This age ended some 600 years ago or so. And it was not all rosy and nice as you make believe. They conquered the region... No need to mince words.
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  26. They have more than enough. Births in Israel by Jewish mothers are at an all time high.
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  27. Nope. CO2 is not a replacement for water.
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  28.  @davidreinhart418  please provide evidence
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  29. Since 2014 Israel does no longer rely on the Jordan river and the Sea of Galilae. In fact, Israel is about to pump water from desalination into the sea.
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  30. And what happens then? Are you going to kill all the jews?
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  31. Cause Republicans would be totally against the dems
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