Comments by "Yurichtube" (@yurichtube1162) on "What Happened to the Greeks of Asia Minor?" video.
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@bulkychalky9697 the ottoman had a system based on conquest. Once they lost at Vienna, they gave up and decided to be happy with what they had. That was the first of many mistakes. While Europe was exploring the world to find alternate ways to China and India, the ottomans became arrogant and didn't achieve anything. Once America was discovered and conquered, it was already the beginning of the end. Ottomans lost many revenue since nobody was using the old paths to India and China anymore (instead going through constantinople, they sailed around Africa and the America's). The ottomans got in extreme debt in the 17th, 18th and especially 19th century. People blame WW1 for ottoman empire death, but it would have died anyway. It was crumbling from within, with corruption, nationalism and too many enemies. And what do you mean what jobs? The museum workers ofcourse, and the tourism dynamic around it. Also there will be no more ticket sales since it will be a mosque, no more work or revenue from there. It lost its charm, now christians feel threatened since they can't claim the haga sofia as their relic anymore. The haga sofia is turkeys biggest tourist attraction. And yes, turkey is growing but thanks to trade with europe and ties with america. With erdogans shenegans i wonder how long europe will allow him to keep going. Also under trump nato is crumbling. Without nato, we will see how turkey will survive with its behaviour.
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@mckanow the ottomans success was based on conquest. It thrived on it, during reign of selim the first it was expanding and during his sons period it was at its biggest. His son, Suleyman, was a failed leader who chose to continue warfare instead of inplanting a system that would make sure the empire would grow without conquest. In order to maintain and grow the sultan after him needed to continue conquering (news flash: no sultan after Suleyman ever did). It had reached its peak and didn't grow. It was just there, only thing remaining was decline. If Europe wanted they might have declared war on the ottomans and won, maybe not after suleyman but a century later. But there was a bigger threat in the east: Russia. Just like nato now, you were keeping the russians busy. You were useful. And human rights didn't matter that much, so you were tolerated but never accepted as friend or ally. However Europe softened up and became pro-human rights. Turkey on the other hand refused to change on that, human rights are still violated in turkey in 2020. Europe needs turkey? Think again. 70% of turkeys trade depends on EU. If big daddy USA didn't control EU (they basically do because of nato and most EU nations not paying enough) the relations would be even worse then now. And turkey has second largest nato army, but by no means the strongest. It is a plus to have you, but not with erdogan. Erdogan has proven in november not to care about nato. Despite nato allies disagreeing, he invaded Rojava. From human rights reports, peoples conditions have worsened. Under SDF people were much more safe, arabs, Kurds, turkmen, all were equal. By reading news about Afrin alone, the human rights violations of civillians, the killing and looting and forced assimilation and turkification (basically ethnic cleansing) is unacceptable. Not only has erdogan destroyed the turkish dream of EU membership (which might have helped with that 2023 secret agenda you talk about), he also made middle east more dangerous and put the world a few centuries back. With iran, that makes things alot more dangerous. The leader after him must not come from erdogan, or turkey is doomed.
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@bulkychalky9697 the america's were filled with diamonds, gold, silver, cupper and all kinds of valueble metals, furtile land to create all kinds of crop and smallpoxes, meaning there was almost no resistance because the natives died. The spaniards had amounted alot of wealth, alot alot. They were for a long time the strongest empire in Europe. Stronger then England or France. However, mismanagment of money, spending it on pointless wars caused their decline. It caused the netherlands to rebel and after 80 years of a costly civil war the spaniards lost that land too. The power shifted to England and France after that. Africa also has alot of those metals and diamonds, on top of furtile lands for valuable crops like coffee, rubber, tabacco etc. and exotic animals like elephants, which meant ivor. And on top of the crops were produced with slavery, meaning it costed the europeans almost nothing while gaining stupid amount of wealth. They grew, conquered and created a system which would make their colonies useful. The ottomans didn't do that. The ottomans were landlords, collecting tax and enslaving christian boys and make them soldiers serving the ottomans. But they didn't do much else. No matter how inconvenient, the europeans were set on not paying the ottomans to India, so they sailed around Africa to do it, even creating a new nation in the process (South Africa). Their unwillingness to cooperate with the ottomans, the ottomans having no friends or allies and not having an alternative system besides conquering was already the beginning of the end. If the ottomans wanted to survive the europeans they should have conquered africa and enslaved the locals there. It sounds unethical but it would be the only way. Africa might even have been better off, who knows. But it somehow stopped conquering, so they declined. They joined the slavery route like the europeans did and even tried to modernize the empire, but by then it was far too late.
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