Comments by "Conservative observer" (@divestedkonservativekarame4269) on "" video.

  1. Okay if they're terrorists. Why did Israel decide to move where terrorists are? Like they weren't there originally you know right. They're not specifically terrorists they're people fighting over lan
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  2.  @Violet._.PhoeniX  it's clear you're ignorant and you didn't even know that their ethnically the same people therefore if you're saying that originally Jewish people were there. Well that would mean that Palestinians were there too. Because they're the same people literally Palestinians would still be natives
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  3.  @NathanBristle  no they were a nation when Britain colonized them. Then Britain specifically turned it over to israelis. That was back in the 1940s. So please stop lying sweetie
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  4. Comparing them to dogs is a kind of like dehumanizing. But I don't really care that you do that. Just understand that the israelis see you less than the dog. Because they literally treat black people in their country very negatively and they see black people as inferior. So you trying to dehumanize Arabs who are their race. Shows how you don't realize how they viewed you.
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  5. Rasheeda is white though. That was a bad argument
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  6. I'm an American I'm not against the oppression or the occupation of the palestinians. That's their problem. Intrinsically in our country we've always actually had the perspective of isolationism. Before we became the global police. Israel fights a war in wins war. What precipitate that is their business between Israel and Palestine and we should have nothing to do with it we should not finance either country. We should not take any sites here. Taking sides is immoral in my opinion. Because why are we being so biased for either country? If Palestine wants to fight and the Palestinians want to fight they can go fight. There's nothing wrong with them trying to challenge israel. That's a choice they make as a people. If they want to deal with the casualties that Israel is going to give them for fighting with them. That is between them. It is not about oppression it is about who wins the war. And that's just that. A lot of people get mad at colonization but this is just a matter of a weak country not being able to defend itself. That is not America's fault. And in America we've gone through so many decades and centuries of dealing with weak countries and not doing anything about it. Because we understood in the foundation of our country our concerned with us. Not other countries and that's what we need to go back to.not siding with Israel not siding with Russia not siding with Ukraine not siding with Palestine deciding with us. And what our interest is. That's who we should side with always
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  7. I think they want death to the country. Israel. Just like the native Americans wanted with america. What's so shocking about native people wanting their native land? That's what they do all the time every day. It's like you came from Mars and don't know how this works.
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  8. Hamas is their government right? So Hamas fighting Israel is Hamas fighting Israel over land. Hamas is weak. So it's not like it's a big deal that they're fighting over this. I think that they're going to continue to fight over and over and over and over again. Israel better be ready. But this is what you get yourself into when you try to fight someone over their land. They're not going to give up just because they lost one war they're going to keep on going. That's why I think we need to be realistic. Why lie why pretend with ourselves when it's what it is. Two people fighting over land. Neither people are bad people because they're fighting over land. The way they fight over land and if they're crying about it. In the case of palestinians. They need to understand you need to have a good way to counteract it. And if you can't. Well that's your problem. So when they say someone treats them wrongly or that they're fighting them and killing people and they're killing too many people or whatever their problem is for the Palestinians they got to understand you got to protect yourself stop looking at everybody else. And Israel needs to stop being entitled to our money. So I think these people need to be self-reliant on both sides stop looking to other countries and do your thing. At the end of the day Israel has the nukes. So they're never in existential threat
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  9. No they're not asking for extermination. Extermination would be killing them not asking for their country back. Originally they had Jews in their country. They just want their country back. That's what they're fighting over having their country back. That's okay. That's an okay fight. That's not something to frown upon by the way. People fight for their land every day and all sorts of countries it's just not America's interest whether they succeed in that or not. That's their business between the two of them. If anyone was asking for the extermination of anyone it would be the other way around. But even then it's not our issue. If they exterminate all Palestinian Arabs that's okay. It doesn't hurt americans.
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  10. But Israel doesn't support you. That's the problem. I guess you put yourself beneath them. Because you don't value yourself. They literally are very racist to black people. Both sides are by the way. The Arab world many of them enslave black people. In the Jewish people deport them and call them names like monkey. Both sides are very racist. And somehow you're going to support the people that hate you. I feel sorry for you like I've said before as an American we should only support a country if it benefits us directly if it doesn't if they have nothing to offer us they don't deserve crap from us and we don't owe them crap.
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  11. Okay if they're terrorists. Why did Israel decide to move where terrorists are? Like they weren't there originally you know right. They're not specifically terrorists they're people fighting over land for people who care about that bull crap they is say the Palestinians are natives and I do agree they are natives. And some people think that colonization is wrong. I don't I think that when you win a war you win the prizes of that war if that's the land then you are the rightful owners of that land regardless of not being a native. Israelis won therefore it is theirs but don't be surprised when the Palestinians continue to fight. That's just normal human actions. Happening. The losing team many of the times will try to challenge over and over again to try to win. Israel's job is to continue to win. Not to whine about the fact that these people continue to fight because that's what natives usually do. All I wish is that you would take this with more common sense instead of being all hysterical.
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  12.  @Violet._.PhoeniX  that was not really smart because anyone knows that Jews and Arabs are the same ethnic people so you can't even go by that sweetie that would be palestinians
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  13.  @Violet._.PhoeniX  what are you on about? Why don't you even know what ethnically Jews are?
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  14.  @Violet._.PhoeniX  literally a Jew is someone who is mixed with Middle Eastern descent. They have european. But what makes them Semitic is their middle eastern heritage. So yeah you really failed it this one
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  15.  @Violet._.PhoeniX  yes it does. Because you can't say that the Palestinians aren't the original people. Because ethnically they're the same people. So you can't say that they aren't the original people if Jewish people are the original people so are Palestinians
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  16.  @Violet._.PhoeniX  I'll say you're my best bet is to actually address what I said instead of calling people names because you're mad because I caught you in a lie
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  17.  @Violet._.PhoeniX  no that was just a distraction and funny. But that's not the point. Your referencing one people who are native to Israel Jerusalem at one point in time who were a Semitic people. The same people that are Semitic today that are palestinian. So that would mean Palestinians are native.
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  18.  @Violet._.PhoeniX  as I repeat if Palestinians and Israelis are the same people. Obviously they are both natives. The only difference is Palestinians are the natives who stayed and made Palestine their country or Israel if you want to call it that.
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  19.  @Violet._.PhoeniX  so it doesn't change anything there's still the native people. The native people who actually stayed. And added to the fact that Jewish people are literally mixed with your pain. So they are not fully Semitic people.
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  20.  @Violet._.PhoeniX  supplements would still be more native. Because they have full native Semitic blood to Jerusalem
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  21.  @Violet._.PhoeniX  I'm not typing. I know you were trying to get at me or how I type. But I'm not typing. I don't have enough time to talk to you about this and waste time on you like that. So I'm using Google voice. Try again. Cuz now you've just shown how insignificant you are to me. Which I wasn't even trying to expose.
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  22.  @Violet._.PhoeniX  it doesn't matter that they went through hardship. The Palestinians are native to palestine. To jerusalem. To israel. They are the true Semitic people. Jewish people that came to Palestine are mixed race. So technically they're not fully submitted. So Palestine would actually have more claim to being native
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  23.  @Violet._.PhoeniX  with that all in mind. You're coming from an anti-colonialist. Of which I do not share. Especially as an American who is living in nevada. Do you know how many people we fought to get nevada? Like if I was to judge someone else for taking over someone else's country. I would be a hypocrite not just once but twice over. At least. I love living in nevada. And I don't plan to move anytime soon. So I'm not saying Israel taken over palestine. Is somehow something wrong. I'm just saying that they are native. We don't have to lie here. Like you are doing. You're making up stories to try and hope that somehow that can avoid the fact that they took over someone else's country. But that doesn't change they took over someone else's country.
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  24.  @Violet._.PhoeniX  it's okay to do that. As long as you fight the good fight and you fight the war. And you win. That's all that I want. If you win fair and square. The sore loser needs to find a way to win. Otherwise a sore loser needs to just accept being a loser. That's what Palestinians have to do. They're stuck with accepting being a loser or trying to fight and continue to fight. And they will probably continue to fight. And Israelis need to understand that. That they're probably going to continue and continued and continued and continued to fight. So continue to dominate. That's what Israel's job is to do is to dominate not to get upset that someone is fighting for their land
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  25.  @NathanBristle  by the way you're talking to someone who is pro israel. I just am not one who wants to lie. Like you guys. If you want to lie. Then you really aren't really pro-israel are you I mean if you were pro-israel. You could actually justify it by the truth. But you can't. Because you don't really support Israel. Not the real Israel at least. You can't support the true story behind it. I myself can honestly tell you I do support it. Because I'm american. Because we have benefited from colonization and we've benefited off of taking over other spaces to make our own country. I'm not going to sit here and say I regret America taking over nevada. From the Mexicans and the native Americans in the battles we had with native Americans in the battles we had with mexicans. I don't have any problem with it. If I did I probably wouldn't move away from the southwest I don't. So I mean like why would I judge someone else for doing the same thing?
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  26.  @NathanBristle  you on the other hand are one of those bleeding heart liberals. Who think that it's wrong to take over someone else's country by winning it through war fair and square. You think that's wrong. So you don't really support what really happened. You have to lie to yourself in order to support it.
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  27.  @NathanBristle  I'm of the belief at the bottom line of things I don't feel Israel is at risk. I feel like specifically they are dealing with a country that doesn't even have nukes. So if they don't have nukes. How can they be of any risk to israel? Like if Israel had an existential threat. They could easily nuke them. I am not against Israel doing whatever the hell they need to do against the Palestinians or the people in gaza. To support their country. They're not obligated to protect palestinians. They're obligated to protect israelis. And that includes snooping them if that's what they wanted to do they could do that. I would have nothing against it. My thing is Don't ask America for money. They don't need America's money. They have their nukes. So they literally can protect themselves. But I'm definitely not against israel. I think I'm actually more for them than some other people who say they're for them. Because I'm of the mentality where I don't care specifically what is real does to palestine. Or Gaza or whoever that place is. I just think that financially America doesn't need to be paying them. And we don't need to be paying Ukraine either. In my opinion
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  28.  @NathanBristle  but yes and Palestinians have been in Palestine for over 1000 years they're clearly the natives.
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  29.  @Violet._.PhoeniX  I just wonder why do you have to lie. About a topic that you say you're for. Lmao. Palestinians have been in Palestine for over a millennium. If you are for what the Israelis are doing. It shouldn't be that hard to say what they're actually doing.
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  30. Okay so if they didn't occupy them or they didn't come here. Then where was Israel before the 1940.point to a map and show me where Israel was in 1930 on a map. You can't prove this. So why are you even trying to claim that there was somehow a false claim that their country was taken over by Israel when that was literally what happened. That's just so weird stop lying. Anyone can look up history and see that you are not telling the truth.
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  31. Because they're in a war. They're supposed to fight like that. I don't care who anyone targets. If you are really being the global police out here saying that the Palestinian government shouldn't target the people they targeted or Israel shouldn't target the people they target. You have to understand that you also do not believe America should have ever fought for our independence. Because we did not fight the way that it was expected to fight at that time. We did a lot of things to win at war. That were not conventional. So that's why I'm saying that it's none of our business how Palestine fights it's none of our business how israel fights we need to stop this international law bull crap and global laws and global police and nonsense. Stop being nosy. Get out of the business of other countries. And if they are begging for our help. They got to understand if you can't give anything you're not going to get anything
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  32. I think rasheeda's claims are true. But they have no substantial backing because her country can't defend itself. So that's their problem.
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  33. I do agree that Israel should do what it wants to do with the Palestinians I will agree with that. I think that if it is real wants to get rid of all the people there that's what they want to do. They're going to have to fight to do that. But we shouldn't fund them to do that because it doesn't benefit us. It only creates enemies. And there's no point in us doing it. Because we have enough problems at home then to be paying israel to exterminate Palestinians
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  34. Yeah they don't care about America I don't think. We're not Palestinians we're not in Palestine we're not in israel. So it's got nothing to do with us. I think they get upset when we back is real. But we have no business in doing that. Because it doesn't benefit us. So it seems like it actually causes more harm than anything. Because now we have people who are supposed enemies of us when we should not have had them as friends or enemies they should just be over there doing whatever they want to do to try to reinstate Palestine if that's what they want to do. To me it's like if they want to reinstate Palestine they have to have the grit to do it they got to have the power to do it. They can't look to others to have that power. And if you can't do it. That's your problem but don't look to America for that. And don't look to America to enforce Israel either. That's not our job to do that either
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  35. Yeah you didn't know that the Palestinians do believe that they should have their land to themselves? Every native people think that. Who really cares. It's not about conversating with them on that. That's what they believe. Can you actually support it by your guns and by your war. That's what is the problem. If you can't support that ideology. Somebody else is going to rule over you because you're a weak ass nation. And that's what Palestine is. They can't defend themselves. So all they have is to complain and say that somebody is occupying them. And that it's their native land and people should just leave them alone and let them on their land. That's not how it works so you need to defend your country to stay a sovereign nation. And if you can't do that little for your country you might as well not be a country
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  36. Palestinians are not terrorists just because they are Arabs that's kind of racist thinking that way. And I don't mean that because they're a different race than white people. It's just racist to think that because someone's ethnicity is a certain thing they must be terrorists. That's racist. The people are fighting over land. That is just the truth. If they were terrorists. Israel would not move near terrorists. You do know they moved there right? So if they were terrorists they would just go away from them they weren't near them in the first place they moved there. And it's okay that they moved there too. It's okay that they call a nice place. It's okay that they fought for that place and won. But lying and saying someone's a terrorist. It's just hiding the context of what she's complaining about. If we could all be on the same page here. It would be easier to have a conversation. I say this as a person who sides more with israel. Then palestine. But I will say that I don't think that we should finance anyone Israel literally has nukes. They don't need america. If their existence is really in danger they know what to do. So they don't have an existential threat. Quite clearly. And we don't need to be funding them. The thing is they seem like they're entitled and they think that they are owed money from us we don't owe them crap. We don't owe Palestine crap. We don't owe anybody because we are not those people.
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  37.  @geoculus5606  sweetie that's what happens when you're in a war. People fight people kill each other. What do you think happens in a war flowers are sent to people like get real. You don't want to treat these people like normal human beings. That are fighting over land. You don't believe in equality and that's your problem here. If you believed in equality you would understand two people are fighting a war over land. Nobody is special by the way. Nobody deserves anything from america. We shouldn't be funding anyone. Unless they can offer us something. And saying that these people are going to terrorize us as nonsense. Because they're fighting over land. We don't have Palestinian land. So we're not in this fight. It's just like if somebody came into a Saudi Arabia and started fighting them over land. That would be between the two of them. We don't need to be stepping in in any of this. Not Ukraine not Israel not Palestine not Russia not China none of them
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  38. Well if Israel took over anyone's country. They would hate that country probably if they were native person. That is not shocking. But understand this are you saying that native Americans hate america? Because that's what you're basically saying here. Natives who originally fought against America hated america. So you're actually saying you hate native Americans too. And palestinians. I personally don't care like that. I don't hate the native Americans per se even though they enslaved black people. I just don't like when they act untitled and say that this is their country. If it's your country. You owe it to me because my people were enslaved by your people. So you owe it to us. So you know that's not really a good argument. But I'm not shocked when they say that this was their land. Because before America it was their land just like before Israel Palestine was palestinians. Are we supposed to pretend 100 years ago wasn't even in existence or what? What are we pretending I don't get that. Like we can talk about the facts and still side with whoever we side with.
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  39. Well there wasn't an Israel lesson 100 years ago. What's your point. LOL why are you pretending like they were already there all along. That's what I mean stop doing the pretending thing. Because it's hard to talk to someone who's playing in la-la land.
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  40. So they're going to hang her up from a tree why? But even if they did why is it any of your business what they would do in their own country? Like they could question what we do in our country by killing our unborn children nonstop. I don't think they have any business talking about what we do. And I don't think we have any business talking about what they do. Can you give the same respect you expect for your own country? Or is that too much to ask for??
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  41. Yeah they probably do not like that they took their land. But that doesn't mean they hate them in the sense of they don't want them to exist. More in the sense that they just want their country back. It wouldn't have to do with whether they exist or not. They just want their country back. So that would mean that they promote extermination it means that they're trying to get their country back. Like chechens try and get their country back. For example. And like all the other little weak countries who try every now and then to rear their head up to get power. That's all they're doing is fighting over land. America has no business in helping them or helping israel. Because we don't owe either of them. And being the global police will get us just in the same position as them as weak countries. But it is understandable why both sides fight for that land. Israel loves israel. And Palestine loves palestine. Very obvious.
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  42. Palestine had Jews in the country. It just didn't have a whole new country called israel. And the Arabs weren't excluded. So I think who's really doing the excluding is actually the israelis. If we're really talking about it. Because the Jews were in Palestine before it was Israel so..... I kind of feel that argument backfired.
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  43. No it's a justification for war. War means people kill each other. What do you think happens in war besides killing each other?
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  44. I know the truth about Palestine and I just don't care. How about that? I'm not Palestinian so why should I care? I'm not Israeli so why should I care about them? I'm not supposed to care about any of this. It's not good to do with me.
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  45. Okay if you're really saying that they're just terroristic. Wouldn't they have been terroristic before 1940? So why would the Israeli people set up shop in a place that's known for terrorism? Obviously if you want peace you don't set up shop in a place where they're already terroristic. Like why are you not paying attention to how this thing started. Two people wanted to fight over land. It wasn't about terrorism. You're just saying that because you don't like their religion. Because you're a Christian and you think that certain people won't make it to heaven if they don't accept christ. But the thing is in reality both of these people by your religion or hellbound so I don't know what your big anger is against muslims. I think maybe you're ignorant about Muslims and you don't even know who Muslims are. You're just acting off of emotion
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  46. Stolen land would be like if they didn't fight for their land. In my opinion. There is no such thing as stolen land otherwise. They have that same mentality towards like how Mexico sees our southwestern states. That's not stolen we fought a war we won. Israel fought of war and they won.
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  47. No it's not attacked by terrorists is attacked by their government. They are in a fight they're in a war. They've been fighting since the 40 so I don't know why you're pretending this is something that just came about. They've been fighting over this dang land for almost 80 years. A 100 years ago less than 100 years ago Israel did not exist. So why are you lying and why are you pretending? To me that's my perspective on it. When we look at the war we can look at it and then equality sense of things. We don't have to look at it with hate like you're trying to do. Equality would be to see how this all started and what it's all about. Which is land. And that is their business that is their fight. What does America benefit from siding with either of these countries? What does America benefit by sending money to either of these countries? When we have a lot more issues in America rather than dealing with Israel's problems or palestine's problems? That's what we should be concerned about. I don't think either side or necessarily evil in any regard. I think two people are fighting for a land that they treasure in value. And that is their business whoever ends up the victor
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  48. No I think in reality you would have to admit that you hate palestinians. Because you somehow think that they don't even have the right to have self-preservation instincts. You don't even respect them as a people to understand that they should have an understanding to be expected to love their country. Palestine. Because that was what was in existence before Israel so if anyone doesn't have respect and has hate that would be you. Not them. They are specifically acting appropriately for what they are. I feel you are not acting appropriately for what you are. You're an american. And you're trying so hard for people who would support you and call you all sorts of animalistic names. Because many of the time there's a lot of racism in israel. There's a lot of racism in the Arab world 2. Both sides. So you should not be shucking and jiving and trying to promote a place that hates you. But you don't know better. Instead you tried to promote the interests of another country than your own country as an American. That's honestly embarrassing
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  49. But what I don't get is why can't she say that she wants her country back? I think she should say that. As a palestinian. Every people have a self-preservation mentality you can't expect someone to sacrifice themselves for someone else
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  50. Yeah like native Americans did with us. What's your point? You think the native Americans did not want us to leave? Of course they did. But it didn't change a dang thing. We stuck around. And they ended up being removed from this country. Thankfully. They were not nice people. Literally sacrificing their women and children and enslaving black people longer than white people did. I'm happy they're gone. But natives often say they don't want the occupying or immigrant populations to come to their country. That's just a normal thing that they say. It's no big deal as long as they can't support what they're saying with their guns and their fighting and their war. If they're defeated it doesn't matter
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  51. Yes because they're an award. They're fighting battles. And they're happy for a win. So that's their business over there. That they want to fight however the way they want to fight is the way they want to fight. Israel got to find a solution for it. But Israel better not ask other countries to step in for them. Israel better focus on the protecting itself and Israel can do this. Without trying to act entitled towards everybody else's resources they're the ones with the nukes. They are fine. They just want other people to get in on it. So they can be entitled to our funds. And they don't need our funds
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  52. Comparing them to dogs is a kind of like dehumanizing. But I don't really care that you do that. Just understand that the israelis see you less than the dog.
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  53. Okay I got your point there. But to me I got her point when she's trying to say is that we need to write the wrong and trying to support Palestine and try and make sure that Israel doesn't hurt Palestine and all that stuff. Now what I want to know from you. Is this why are you concerned about what she's saying when she's palestinian? What the hell do you expect her to say I don't understand why you guys can't use common sense on the Israel side. You guys need to really use your common sense. We were not this silly when we were fighting a native Americans in america. We weren't saying oh my God and native American is talking about the supporting native Americans how the heck does this happen? That's what you're literally saying here. You're literally shocked a Palestinian is saying that we should support Palestinians well duh what the hell do you think they're going to say?
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