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It’s NOT dehumanising her because she did porn. It’s criticism because she chose an Uber violent man and then when he does what he is clearly interested in - be violent, we are all supposed to turn around and say “oh no!” A lot of Women have a thing for violent and aggressive men. It turns them on. Then when it goes wrong, we have to pretend they didn’t consciously choose this kind of man. If you employ a man with a history of theft, you can’t act surprised when he steals from your business. If you choose a partner, and your due diligence shows he’s a violent lunatic, it’s on you for what happens. She chose him because she likes violent, Uber aggressive men. So she has to take some responsibility. As do all women who choose men like this. If the dude they choose isn’t an MMA fighter or has an outward persona of violence - I have all the sympathy in the world.
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@MorellaReborned she has some responsibility because nobody forced her to get with a man called “war machine” who had a criminal record and a history of violence. It’s like a millionaire choosing some bimbo and wondering why she ran off with the money. Think about it, your daughter comes home with war machine, what on earth do you say to her? FFS you have to live in the real world
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@chiefinasmith all the roiders at my gym are either arrogant or aggressive. I’m not trying to have a pop at you, one considered doing roids, but it’s just how it is. They always seem to wear caps and hoodies too for some reason! My gym is friendly and a lot of people say good morning. The clearly roided guys act like they’re above all of that and are generally extremely aloof and arrogant. I’ve literally said hi to a couple of dudes I’ve shared the gym with for like 6 months and they point blank look at me like I’m a dick. All tied up with wanting to be an alpha male.
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@malevolence89 This issue is a clear case of people listening and not hearing. When we say “she chose the wrong man, it’s partially her choices which led to this”, they hear: “It’s her fault” Very black and white thinking. It’s either his fault, or her fault. It can’t be a complex set of conclusions with nuanced points. It’s about blame. To address this, the blame is entirely on him. It’s his crime, she was the victim. The point with this is not to place blame now and rant about men’s endless crimes and to feel aggrieved. The point is to now think of how we can avert these crimes and educating women to not choose violent psychos. Men often become these types as they know what absolute dynamite it is with women. Sadly, these guys do VERY VERY well with the ladies. We used to have a conservative culture which was protective of young women and erred them away from hooking up with criminals and violent fighters. It was seen as a social shame. That was all thrown out the window under the guise of “empowerment” and sadly it will lead to these places more often now. There’s a reason a lot of men get tattoos now and take steroids. The “prison thug” look seems to be the most popular look these days.
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@x77punk77x Empathy is reserved for people who didn’t contribute to their circumstances. Can one of you please answer the question: Does a woman who chooses a man who has a criminal record, and has a history of violence, bear any responsibility for her own safety if that man then is violent to her? Please, answer the question without being nasty or trying to deflect by criticising or psychoanalysing the person who asked it.
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@poko9562 As I’ve said, black and white thinking. Either it’s all his fault or it’s all hers. It’s the battle of the sexes. Bear in mind a lot of those commenting are kids and young adults who’ve never had to be responsible for another life. They can work on principles and not reality. I have a family to support, and if my daughter came home with a convicted criminal who used steroids and was an MMA fighter I would talk to her about the dangers. I would NOT be supportive of this relationship. Why? I’m 40 and I know these guys are not going to end well. The immature mind thinks “yeah but this one might be a good person. Too judgemental” That’s merely cowardice from not wanting to confront the issue and take responsibility. Regardless of what people may think, men and women like me will continue to do the hard work of protecting those who aren’t developed enough or experienced enough to be able to judge circumstances correctly. We will not be liked for it. May even be resented initially but one day most of these girls will look back and think “what was I thinking?”. That’s if they don’t end up in hospital, prison or as a single mother. The key isn’t to make mistakes and then whinge about how the world should be different, they key is to actually succeed in avoiding these situations. Our love and protective instincts have been mischaracterised as controlling, conservative behaviour. The villain in this is him - not her. I’ve said this about 30 times. However, our hearts break because she could have avoided it by choosing another guy. It’s incredibly dangerous to totally ignore this aspect as it makes out DV falls out of trees, and you cannot use your wisdom and intuition to avoid it. This guy might as well have had a 10 foot sign with neon lights saying “this man will beat you” on his head.
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@flyoverurbangarden4315 that’s true. It wasn’t about her conduct, or her job. That’s not the question. She selected him for a relationship and there were multiple red flags. That’s the point. It’s her choices, not who she is or her conduct.
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@MorellaReborned I don’t. I’ve answered yours. Answer mine.
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@MorellaReborned you’re too emotional. This is just a debate.
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@Emmanel9 you’ve not understood. It’s not about blame. It’s about helping other people avoid this fate. Let me ask you a question. If you had a daughter and she came home with war machine, what would you say? Please answer this question without making things up like “she got what she deserved” All of you, forget the issue of blame. It’s not about blame. You have a daughter, or a sister, or a friend. She brings home war machine and says she’s getting in a relatinship with him. What is your response when she asks you “what do you think?” Answer that, and you might see where I’m coming from.
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@Jenna2k sure. War machine kept his violence well hidden
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@MorellaReborned We are misunderstand each other. There is one thing which is “how the world should be” and I agree with all you say on that basis. The other side is the reality - and it IS the reality and it always will be. Since the dawn of time we’ve had these people and we always will. It sucks. Here’s an example of what I mean: a parent makes a mistake and leaves the wrong medicine out for their kid. The kid gets seriously Ill. It’s a mistake right? You can’t blame the parent for making a mistake? WRONG. Consequences matter. The intention is irrelevant. It’s on the parent to get their stuff together and make the right choices. Hiding behind “My intentions were right” is not enough. You now have a seriously I’ll kid and it’s on you to prevent that. This is the principle I’m taking about. Someone, somewhere has to put an end to it. You have agency, we all do. The point of this discussion is not who gets the “feels” or who gets sympathy. The victim gets the sympathy, of course. Any father knows this, you have a responsibility to change the course of history and not hide behind good intentions, intellectualised notions of right and wrong. You have to prevent it. Partly yes, education may help in a minority of cases. I’ve been a victim of assault, I’ve been mugged 4 times. I had a very rough upbringing. I’ve had worse done to me as a powerless child. Why is this relevant? Because nobody gives a f in the final analysis, nobody is coming to save you, good intentions mean nothing and you have to be streetwise and tough and learn the skills to get you out of these situations. Coming at this from different angles . In terms of sympathy then you can have all of that, I’m interested in fixing the issue, not picking up the pieces once the damage is done.
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@pinksapple here’s an example which might help you understand. It’s basically a guy who had low self esteem, an attractive woman found him, and convinced him into a sexless marriage (while having affairs) and then got her lover to kill him for insurance money. https://youtu.be/7Zktzu7BACk While she was the offender and he is the victim, the dude bears some responsibility for being mind numbingly stupid to not see the multiple red flags. He could have left and kept his dignity at any time. I’m going to ignore your insults about “not picking me”. I have a wonderful wife, who’s far more attractive than Christie, and we have a lovely daughter. If you read my comments, I never said ALL women, I said A LOT of women. I’d probably say about 20%, generally those with daddy issues, end up going for these guys. https://youtu.be/7Zktzu7BACk The majority of women aren’t drawn to psychopaths but there’s a significant minority. The point remains, this guy, he was a victim but as a fellow man, I would urge other men to educate themselves on the ref flags. As for police officers, if that’s statistically true, then women when assessing men in these professions should exercise extreme caution. If you don’t feel your own gender can be held accountable for their choices, that’s fine. You’ll harm other women by saying so. I would advise my future sons, my nephews, and any younger man to be highly cautious with a woman who’s very much into material wealth, has a criminal history (this woman did) and doesn’t have much of a work record. When in a relationship, also to scrutinise withholding affection until financial commitments are made . This guy should have seen her coming a mile off. He has a responsibility to protect himself. It still doesn’t excuse his murderer, but if someone had given him the skills to be able to judge character better, he wouldn’t have ended up in a ditch. For me to say “we should educate women to not murder their spouses for insurance money” would be so comical it’s almost absurd. Good luck trying to eliminate psycopathology from the human genome. You’re better of educating people on how to spot them, and in terms of avoiding a violent man, avoiding MMA fighters with criminal records would be a fantastic start . Now we have the roles reversed with a male victim, how would I sound if I said “there’s nothing to be done! Men should be able to marry trashy, materialistic women who have affairs and embezzle your money and not expect things like this?” Perhaps if you look at this case it might help you gain the perspective I have . It’s not about blame .
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When a dude has a midlife crisis, marries a gold digger and gets taken to the cleaners, people will say “sure that’s bad but what the f was he thinking”. He doesn’t get called a survivor. He gets a bit of ridicule because he thought with his crotch and got burned. When a woman gets with a violent man and he acts violent, we can’t say this. We can’t ascribe any responsibility for a bad choice.
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@rozu3425 yeah one time it was at a cash point late at night in a rough part of town. I didn’t do that again afterwards. I did some stupid shyt when I was young, every time I was either drunk or high off my ass, which led me to make poor decisions. See? I haven’t got a giant ego that can’t cope with learning from errors and mistakes because I’m a fkin grown up and not a narcisstic child
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@eaasports4479 you don’t think a man who beats other men up for a living, takes steroids and has a criminal record doesn’t have an obvious potential for abuse? I think you’re making excuses, you’re suffering from the “but he’s different with me” nonsense.
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@Mataylor17 you’re all deliberately misrepresenting everything on this thread because you WANT the argument to be “she’s deserved it because she’s a porn star” When the argument is actually “she doesn’t deserve anything, but she voluntarily got involved with a violent psychopath”
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@heddelinpralin1481 guy hangs out with gangsters and gets shot. “Why did you hang out with those guys” Girl hangs out with gangster and gets beat. How could she ever know! Don’t blame the victim!!!
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@misguidedangel6550 I’m not saying she’s a GD. I am saying when a dude marries an obvious GD, nobody cares and says “you picked the wrong girl and thought with your pelvis” When women get with obviously violent men who you could clearly predict would act this way, it’s “ooohh no NOBODY should deal with this” Like it wasn’t obvious and she didn’t have a choice to get with a non violent guy.
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@josephine5809 no, if a woman went out with a boxer I would say the same. You just don’t get it, do you. Boxers, soldiers, any guy like this is higher risk. Try an accountant or someone you’re not picking just because it gets your bean off
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@MorellaReborned smokers get cancer because they indulge in high risk behaviour. Telling people not to smoke is not “victim blaming”. In the same way, telling women who’ve chosen violent lunatics it’s on them is not victim blaming, it’s merely pointing out their stupidity
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@VidweII I think it’s because while our imperative is actions and outcomes, they have evolved more to be skilled in social interactions hence the most important aspect to them is blame. In the same way kids argue over who’s fault something was, they can’t see past ascribing blame for certain outcomes because that determines social standing and social capital. Whereas we look at it as a problem which needs to be addressed, they look at it as a social hierarchy issue. I can’t otherwise determine why they keep going back to phrases like “it’s her fault then” “she was asking for it” etc when that’s an irrelevance, it’s not about shame and blame it’s about preventing domestic abuse, not deciding who’s got the moral and social capital when it happens. It’s like we are talking 2 different languages basically. We say “the lesson here is to vet your partners” and they hear “it’s her fault and not his” which is just the emotions talking, basically. The blame issue is an irrelevance. It’s obviously his fault not hers, but she did fail in part to adequately choose a partner who had her best interests at heart.
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@BippoSicko War machine Criminal record MMA fighter “Mwa he beat me up! How was I supposed to know!” You missed the point entirely. Just because your bean gets tingly for violent offenders doesn’t mean you can’t avoid ass whoopings by maybe going out with guys who work in a bank, or a garage….doesn’t float your boat the same though does it? 🤣 “It was great at the start dating this man who gouges eyes for a living but suddenly he got violent” “There there, how were you supposed to know”
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@blueyellowandgreen nonsense. Men in violent professions are de facto more violent people. You can’t seriously think MMA fighters and boxers are the same risk as accountants and dentists. This is about women choosing violent guys because it floats their boat then crying “how could I know” when the enevitable happens. Thinking with pvssy rather than mind essentially
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@blueyellowandgreen yeah you think that way because of your personal subjective experience. You realise that’s an anomaly. Any dude who puts himself in a profession where you smash the shyt out of people for fun is bound to be higher risk
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@silveryn9784 “women who are drawn to violent men have been violated before….so it’s not their fault” Men who abuse were generally abused themselves or witnessed it as a child, so it’s not their fault either. I don’t know how many times I can say this is not about blame, or who’s fault it is. Why is everyone obsessed with blame attribution?
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Anyone who has an interest in the sport is pretty much de facto damaged. What is of interest about watching men just rucking? Boxing, ju jutsu….these are disciplines of skill, I can understand that. MMA is just pure blood and guts, it’s just a watered down snuff movie for sadistic idiots.
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@VidweII please no. I can’t become that.
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@annetakubiak3374 it’s most likely because she feels he is high value, that she is dating up. If you read dating advice, rule no 1 is not to be super nice and available. Psychologically people think you’re below them. Rightly or wrongly, she on some level feels he is the catch, and tolerates it as she doesn’t feel she can get better.
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@blueyellowandgreen JCS covers mainly killers. It’s not a realistic data set to base your worldview on.
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@malevolence89 it does not even need to be a father. Uncles, step fathers CAN be a good replacement. She just needs a good relationship with a father figure. Look at the total mess liberal politics have put us. The over focus on empathy and the lack of focus on responsibility has created a generation of kids with no idea what a strong family unit is. There is no such thing as shame. There is no respect for anything. It’s absolutely rock solid that 2 parent households produce happier kids, with less involvement in crime and better functioning members of society. Liberals are wedded to “science and evidence” in everything but this metric is totally ignored. They would do better for all children if they incentivised marriage and 2 parent homes, but all they do is set up systems to take money from 2 parent households to give it to 1 parent households. They incentivise it.
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@fishsona yer ma
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@stephaniehillssawyer it’s a tough one. Would I rather be punched or have all my assets taken away? I’d probably take the punch.
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@teacupkitten7077 women don’t like porn because it makes them feel insecure because there are much hotter women out there men are lusting over
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It’s not because she’s an adult actress, it’s not because she didn’t leave. It’s because she chose a man who was an MMA fighter who called himself “war machine” You know exactly what you will get if you choose men like that. This wasn’t some office dude who suddenly turned nasty. I’m sure there are decent men in MMA, but ask yourself, what attracts a man to a sport where the main activity is fighting. Many women are attracted to the raw masculinity of these men, but that’s the double edged sword. Just to be clear, no abuse is justified. It might be worthwhile understanding that if you choose men who overtly set out to represent themselves as fighters, don’t be surprised if this shit happens.
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What attracted her to him in the first place? Like many women, she was attracted to the pure masculine energy, the dominance, the fact he crushes other mens skulls for a living. Then when the guy turns on them it’s “ooh no who would have thought!” Thinking with your pelvic bone is never a good strategy
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@ohav3893 “victim blaming” is just a term used to absolve people of their own personal responsibility. Sure, nobody should be subjected to what she was, but if you lie down with rats don’t be surprised when you get fleas.
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@x77punk77x War machine successfully hid it, did he? He had a massive flashing red light on his head that said “violent lunatic” You might not like responsibility but it exists nonetheless, and if you choose a war machine don’t be surprised if you end up in hospital
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@MorellaReborned your mum would kill you for that…. What about your dad….usually it’s the dad who tries to police his daughters partners, not the mum. You haven’t mentioned him.
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@MonkeyDIvan try telling that to the fan clubs of serial killers, the women on YouTube defending Chris watts (child killer). This war machine was an emotionally unstable violent lunatic and I bet he had them queueing up. Yet the quiet man who came from a broken home and worked to become a functioning member of society - that’s strength but it seems to be the Christian Greys and War Machines who they’re interested in. Go and observe. Any violent criminal in the news always has a fan club. Watch the Joey interview (mafia hitman) talk about how being a contract killer had a hypnotic effect on women. You’re living in fantasy, sorry.
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@rubyrae7715 MMA fighters and criminals get laid a lot. It’s well known. You will frame these as “masculine” and “knows what he wants” and all that other doublethink you use to justify it. Being a physical fighter, a solider or any other profession involved with violence is absolute dynamite with the ladies. You know this. Don’t try to pretend you’re lusting after poets and charity workers because you aren’t and everyone knows it
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@viderevero1338 great advice and yes
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@RoseColoredIris Are you honestly that stupid that you want evidence (who would ever pay for that study?) You’re literally asking the question “Is there any evidence that violent men are violent?” If you like them, just own it and don’t try and justify it. We all have our flaws honey.
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@Misskraehe I said about 50 times it’s not about blame. Why can’t you over emotional intellectual dishrags understand it’s not about establishing blame, you really cannot see past this can you
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@lucidmoth1023 “does a man walking down the street with an expensive watch bear any responsibility if he gets robbed?” Yes, absolutely. If you walk through a rough neighbourhood with a roller on and it gets taken, it’s completely your fault. You’re a fool. Next question? You seriously didn’t think that through, did you? I don’t disgust you, you’re disgusted with the idea of responsibility, because you’re a child.
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@BippoSicko not sport. Violent sports. And yes, criminality would correlate with violence generally. FFS all the women on here who have a real lust for these guys are going off on some real justification episode. “But he’s not like that when he’s with me! I can change him!” Pathetic
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@chiefinasmith yeah, and that’s probably the testosterone you’re injecting brah. It causes single mindedness, determination etc but the side effect of that is you come off as an aloof, elitist prick who can’t even return a good morning to someone. To be fair I put the earphones in too. I’m just saying the roiders swan around like they own the place. I do think it changes peoples personalities. You have to be pretty competitive in the first place to start shooting up hormones because you want to be physically intimidating/stronger.
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I got hospitalised at age 12 by a MMA fighter who was 18 who was clearly wanting to try his “art” out on a human subject. Still have scars and lifelong PTSD. Amazing that guys who train to injure people seem to like injuring people. But sure, most are disciplined, nice guys who would never use it inappropriately. Yeah, right Mouth bust right open. Teeth lost. Broken rib. 12 years old. Who TF was training him to do that? Should we allow people to train men to literally one punch someone into the hospital? My hands were on my face but he went to the body to get my hands down and then knocked me clean out, waking up in the hospital with my parents with me. I did literally nothing to him. I was trying to get away but he cornered me - with his mate. What kind of f ing hobby centred around half murdering people? I’d recommend national service rather than MMA. I wasn’t old enough to defend myself. Hence as an adult, I’ve seen MMA fighters as damaged goods.
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@2fortmenace why would an individual have an interest in a discipline which centres around punches, kicks, grappling and choking other people?
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