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Because the drone seems fake.
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@thoughtlesskills There's no reason to fake that drone. As a lie begins is difficult to distinguish what else is scientifically true in such documentary. Even a dislike is better than no reaction. It signals engaging and also this discussion is counting points for them, promoting the video. At least, for me, this lie ruined everything as fooled the audience.
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@Tim22222 Definitely not. In advance: The man stepped in the moon many times, vaccines don't cause autism, ... I'm agnostic. “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” ― Carl Sagan
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This hummingbird drone is sooooo fake! How can a butterfly don't get stuck over the net? 1:19 How can a camera pointing horizontally film upwards? 1:48 A tiltrotor drone will never be so stable to take these shots.
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@atlas8827 the scene after in slo-mo represents much better the real density of Butterflys. Why they didn't captured the most dense swarm in slow motion to preserve fidelity even with video compression? Answer: Because compression together with fast moving helps to hide a bad CGI.
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@atlas8827 after the drone-on-a-stick, anything could be fake. Otherwise, why do you think that it's real?
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A real camera, because this drone and even his camera are fake.
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A real camera. The hummingbird drone seems so fake...
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@kjordan2001 1. put a piece of paper behind a fan... will it fall or be stuck? Is it easy to remove while the fan is on? 2. a) NOPE. b) many reasons to believe that.
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@thoughtlesskills Some butterfly clouds seems CGI... despite the real amount of insects might being fake it's just another propaganda. I hope not seeing it again in other videos.
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@Tim22222 Helicopters also made vortex rings since it's wings doesn't have winglets, but Chinook helicopter is just a two rotor. It isn't a tilt rotor! You are being shallow or are using fallacies intentionally. Also you inferred very wrong about me because I'm actually an engineer and already passed by a development of a tilted rotor drone years before. If that piece of crap really can perform a flawless flight, their developers should develop a more versatile drone and PBS should also keep using this amazing drone in other videos or even make an entire documentary about their development.
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@Tim22222 So, you argued at me just believing that the drone is real, having no proof that I'm wrong? That's funny. As I already said, for me it is fake and I'm comfortable with it as you seems be comfortable being fooled. You took up the burden for PBS but I really prefer to be proved wrong by them instead of supposedly by your even not existing case. Is not a matter of giving up. The game ends if any real proof appears. I won't ask you to prove anything since you probably doesn't have any access to raw footage as neither I do. That is the only real proof that we can ask for. While it doesn't occur we are trying to exercise points of view. I'm thankful for your opinion.
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@Tim22222 I leaving my opinion. It seems fake to me. Let PBS worry about what I say if a viewer's impression really matters. Probably if you or me try to contact them, that highly regarded will not even give a shit. For me you are just another believer that doesn't deserve any work to convince.
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Or the CGI will be more evident.
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@TheSaxualHealer I'm just ansewering those who asked me about my point of view. I'm comfortable with that. This video is part of a series of robotic animals intended to film with less interference as possible, so they also needed to cover a flying one. As a butterfly is so light to mimmic, they opted to make a hummingbird... as it is also not so easy, maybe they falled into a dillema, give a shot or forget abourt a flying one. About the super-slow-motion: These cameras are actually very compact as a handheld one and the majority of takes has been filmed below real speed, as you can see by the speed of the rotors and butterflies tumbling over the net or even flapping wings. Hope I answered your questions.
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@karlk5801 I can be wrong I admit, but not ignorant just by not agreeing with the common sense. For me it still seeming "not true" (to be less agressive). You still free to disagree with me trusting in the entire content. What you wont see me talking to random people that they are being ignorant just for thinking different than me. Be calm.
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@MrKabDrivr Sincerely It's not a entire waste of time for me since I'm actually practicing my English and debating skills (instead of just speaking my native language and trowing falacies). About my knowledge, you just argued with a thing that you doesn't know anything about (me, so you used a fallacy). About be quiet, you also can practice your own advice and let skeptics folks like me talking alone or arguing with others that really concern about the main question. A tip: preserve your joy and don't read YT comments. Be happy.
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@jakeboy3053 Agree. But they just need to anticipate that compression is always applied to internet videos and has no way to avoid losses in this shot making it a setback. So far I know, just Tom Scott used it intentionally with a great success. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Rp-uo6HmI
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@TheDsRequiem I already said, I can be wrong, but it seems fake to me. Until now anyone can be right... Just PBS knows what they did. Would you like to see me changing my opinion just to agree with the common "right"?
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@cdevine9459 I know what it seems to me by observation and thinking about... as anyone can assume that it's entire real even doesn't knowing why. Just who makes that knows the truth.
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@Tim22222 Imagination to understand is religion. Knowledge to understand is science.
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@Tim22222 Do you even know how a V22 Ospray or any other tilt rotor thing flying characteristics? For sure you know just about how to being a conspiracyist who thinks everything is conspiracy. But no problem... I'm fine with my conclusion about the drone and in peace with those being fooled.
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@Tim22222 Almost that. Why do they crash? Is this design stable enough to fly so smooth even with asymmetrical body, heavy and close meshes over the rotors? In such way that the tilt from the servos isn't noticeable? Perhaps this drone is able to fly in some way, but in those shots it was hanged by wires or with a stick in the butt.
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@Tim22222 Your believe is related to public believe? At least I don't have this gear in my mind. PBS is relatively new to me and even being more familiar, one good job doens't garante the next one, and vice-versa. I also don't like to trow links that corroborate with my opinion, but they are appearing... I really hope that someday it has a behind scenes reveal. https://www.helicomicro.com/2020/04/30/spy-in-the-wild-faux-colibri-vrais-papillons-monarch/
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@MariaMartinez-researcher this is a Schroindger's reply. It's OK and nOK until you read.
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@Tim22222 that's the point. We are unable to point evidences as "it seems to me" is not a claim, but previous discussions were in a way pointed by Sagan, looking for evidences. Just conspiracies that fights against the ordinary falls into the extra_ordinary requirements. I had a great time talking. Have a good night.
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@Tim22222 Sure, agrred. But who accused that org? Hope that person don't interprete your opinion as a accusation. ;)
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@hansalt6695 All humans are. What will you do about that?
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@GFSTaylor I agree that a swarm like this exists, but the motion between first and second layers looks strange. Maybe a miss of the perfect shot or even someone trying things on CG can motivate them to include this part if it's really CGI. Anyway, when you create something to go online you have to keep in mind that that kind of scene will be gradated by compression unless you slow down the movement. Keeping that part as is, knowing the compressed video behavior, is at least doubtful.
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@tobiastrust4232 Depending of where you live you can check on PBS site the video without YT compression. I'm in Brazil and are not allowed to see, just heard about. Maybe they should addressed it with a slow-motion for YT version. Btw, thumbs up or down or comments counts as engaging in the same way for them.
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@lorijones3891 Yeh, PC has the same option... the servos really actuate in some moments but not so constantly and coordinated as it should be during a real flight. Compare with it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIrmt4O7sBQ For me it may fly, but not for real in these shots.
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@TheSaxualHealer At first I made a comment with my opinion, some people agree others disagree in their comments. When you asked me I just answered. as others did. Cameras capable to make shots as seen in this video are already compact, otherwise you are invalidating the camera installed in the drone. If do you plan to see a bullet in mid-air with hi-res you may need a bigger camera, but that's not the case. If you know the equipment used in this video, you probably also knows more about how this amazing drone was developed for a single use, please show us! Btw, such development alone is a great subject for a documentary... but they may have no development to show.
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@HVYMETL What kind of suspect behavior a bullet in mid air video have in order to mekes me think that it has CGI or that the bullet is mounted on a stick? Your suggestion has no sense at all. If my opinion makes no sense for you, please desconsidere, otherwise it makes and you are afraid to admit... why do you care about?
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@Lucan47 Why embarrassing? I'm fine.
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C T The fact that closes always left the tail off camera is at least suspicious. For any kind of drone, the tilt rotor is the most difficult to fly and less capable of lifting accessories. More suspicious. I just need a opinion to distinguish between beauty (it really is) and fiction. Scientific documentary shouldn't use as the same artifacts as Hollywood uses to make sci-fi.
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@Labroidas definetly not. I'already answered it here before. Just stop inferring things. People doesn't fit into boxes.
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@mariellegomez5089 yep. This previously intrigued me because the drone changes the horizontal velocity without tilting sideways (as a drone does). Shortly after I noticed a faint white line, at 45º, between the head and his left wing. Diferrent from shots that the camera is horizontal and the beak is upward, maybe this is a real shot with the camera pointing downward and the beak horizontal... or maybe it was hanged...
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@MrKabDrivr You still not knowing me. You still talking about someone that you doesn't know. I've commented about my opinnion as all people here did. Some people talks about beauty, others hate butterflies and I pondered about the video. Consegue defender suas afirmações comigo em português? ¿Puedes continuar esta conversación en español? ...or your ability is just being empty in a single language?
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@montseservin1306 Why they are not scare seeing a real camera filming the hummingbird drone? Or are two hummingbird drones filming each other?
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No and no. It's a fake robotic fake bird. Just a dummy on a stick.
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@W.-oo3hf That kind of drone (tilt rotor) is the most difficult, unstable and less capable of lifting accessories as camera, shaped body and protections. This development alone (if was functional) deserves a documentary for itself.
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@W.-oo3hf Agreed. Including because the own drone appears in the video and most of takes are made in angle and not horizontally as the hummingbird can do with a fixed camera. So, a bird-shaped-drone with a camera was at least unnecessary.
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Bambi Palmer Are you 10 yo?
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