Comments by "André" (@Andre-qo5ek) on "Andrewism" channel.

@MxSlfDstrct don't be silly... the paint you use is not rented. ie. oil paints for making a painting, you rent the set, use what you need for the painting a return the rest.
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i have been confused as to how patriarchy is bad but matriarchy is good(?). shouldn't all gender/sex based hierarchy be bad? gender/sex is such an arbitrary criteria is most situations. especially when we start stereotyping gender roles to personal traits like "motherly". could you rephrase this gendered position in non-gendered terms?
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@stathisxanthopoulos1933 I just hope they were on Israeli land from the original accords and not colonized settlements from Israel's genocide campaign....
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@hcxpl1 ah, good point. thank you for pointing out my gap in perspective . I heard get out and and thought escape. it make sense that that get out could mean be free to play outside in a secure and protected environment. i feel my position still stands. to secure a safe space for kids to be free range what level of security would be needed? community surveillance, community policing, keeping an eye on "outsiders". i know a common answer is that the communities would simply have the best interest of the kids in mind ... maybe its just me, but that's in no way a reassuring guarantee.
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@klorgas precisely... for a group of people that is against "American individualism" that causes people to only look out for themselves. ... essentially, many anarchists, end up being individualists themselves and not individuals in the identity way. there is a huge gap between anarchism a "lifestyle'" and the praxis needed to aid in building community together. Anarchism reliance on essentially charity ( though they hate the word. they spend so much time separating themselves from the word) makes anarchy, as a collective, very weak. they are literally only as strong as the ability of the immediate people at an event. the fact that there seems to be no EASY way to get people involved in community building is really disheartening too. yes it is good to feed the homeless ... but it does essentially nothing to bring a paradigm shift, a update to the zeitgeist, political power, economic leverage... it is super humanitarian, which is fantastic. but like you said these actions aren't " contributing to toppling fascism nor capitalism"
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the nuclear family being the product of capitalism... im not sure what you personally mean by that. i would say that the nuclear family is based on post-war and cold war nationalist posturing in the form of american christian fundamentalism, post-war middle class capitalist ,and rapid technological growth. as for "whereas more fluid traditional familiar institutions were based in communal child-rearing." ... why do you think all those kids were born? its nice to think kids were born free and raised collectively for the sake of life... but where is the evidence for that? it would seem kids are raised in the trades of their foreparents. taking up the needs of the community. perhaps not to "produce for capitalism" but certainly to produce for their community. the distinction is mildly different at that point. if anything the nuclear family is not a great model for capitalism. capitalism wants grunts that are grateful for the crumbs they get. capitalism want parents that put their 13 kids in work houses (farm, blacksmith, cobbler, soldier, {insert trade here}). the nuclear family reduces the family to 2.5 kids and a dog, focusing more attention and funding to the education and well being to the fewer kids. it was all to throw shade at how "prosperous" america was post-war. workhouse orphans = smaller percentage of "success" but more chances at it (low risk disposable) nuclear family = higher percentage of "success" but fewer chances at it. (high risk investment) extended family is fantastic for the generational experience that it often come with. but this nostalgia of the pre-industrial pre-colonial pre-empire past is so regressive. it is time to build anew not rummage for days past. there is very little difference of the right reaching back to "the golden years" and the left reaching back to agrarian pre-"white"ness.
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"give individuals like children and the elderly more opportunities to get out." ** isn't this counter to the very idea of community? sure in a free community people COULD leave, but wouldn't the idea to be to keep the community strong through generational connection(?) not a , transient space, a depot for vagabonds?
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@JanStarzak it sounds more like "generational Disconnection" is what you are describing. clearly the community family and tradition you are talking about are being seen from the perspective of iron clad militant authoritarianism. can generations be divided this way , sure, and its clearly not a healthy connection. Healthy connections are based on trust and respect. this includes generational ones. in the case of family a parent should be showing , through their actions, trust and respect. and a child should be doing the same. this goes for community as well. a community needs to respect itself which means respecting its individuals and those individuals need to respect themselves as well as the identify of the community as a whole. Mutual respect across the board. if this level of respect is not there then a disconnect is occurring. tradition is a bit different because it tends to go further back in history; at least in the mythical history that people build around "tradition". "tradition" is very often misguided and misinformed. the classic story " how do you cook a ham, cut off both ends and roast. why cut off the ends? its tradition, just how its done and i was taught. they ask their grandmother why she taught it that way. the answer: my oven just didn't fit the whole roast". tradition is just a game of telephone. as a side note: this "suppression of the individual at the altair of the "community", "family" and "tradition"." argument interests me. it seems to usually be taken in adolescent years when someone is finding their own footing. when some one thinks they have collected enough information to navigate the world intelligently or is just fed up with listening to others (of course some people are forced into "independence" but that is out of scope here). in either of these cases i am not one of the belief that an average adolescent has learned enough of the world to declare independence from the very concept of community. that's the kind of thought that makes off-grid xenophobic libertarians that don't acknowledge the communities upon communities, past and present, that support their lifestyle. no man is an island.
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I loved the line in the video "I’ve low-key been calling myself out throughout this video, so you’re not alone." because everyone needs to do more. so it was great to hear you are trying to do something about capitalism. I have been struggling with living a life actively against capitalism. it would be great to hear how you actualize your fight against capitalism. all the best in your endeavors
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".You’ll always have the personal and direct parent-children familiar social relations; but supplement that with community child rearing, where all children are protected and guided by all adults in a specific community could produce more liberating social relations." im confused as to why this is held up on some kind of pedestal. this is what cults do. these systems do not have some inherent built in protection for children or moral compass to the collectives good. why does no one ever address the possible dangers with this? do the dangers out way the potential benefits? i would generally say no. but this is becasue of the lens we look at this from. its generally a person in a bad family situation looking at a progressive liberating community. what about the very real situation of a good family situation stuck in a community of regressive christian fundamentalist's? certainly communal rearing of children would not be preferred.
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great lesson on how we got here..... but what about action? i'll dive into the primary source..... "Epilogue on the Movement against Capitalist Globalization" ... was ... disappointing. it then linked to "Why We Don't Make Demands" ... which tries to make a case... but fails i will go into "Why We Don't Make Demands" as it is trying to make a position that is more interesting ..... - ". When was the last time 400,000 people were anywhere in New York without the police arresting anyone? That was protest not just as pressure valve, but as active pacification—as a way of diminishing the friction between protesters and the order they oppose. " - i agree here that protests are a pressure release, not action. - "Limiting a movement to specific demands stifles diversity, setting it up for failure." ... they are not wrong that making demands also shows your hand.. that's fair. but it's also the reality of the situation. if you do not want to make demands, then you are not even playing the same game. and if you are not playing the same game then the people with the guns can just crush you. all the examples in the essays are not showing the reality that the movements did not have actual strength behind them. they were facades. seizing a location with no power extraction from that location does nothing. creating power vacuums does nothing if they are not filled. --------- i'll give these articles one thing... they make me REALLY understand why the left's tactics bother me so much. they yell about problems but also don't have solutions and reject other peoples solutions. they are like people that have not explored their emotional responses and can't express them coherently, they just flail in frustration with emotional dysregulation. "It’s not our job to present ready-made solutions that the masses can applaud from the sidelines; leave that to demagogues. Our challenge, rather, is to create spaces where people can discuss and implement solutions directly, on an ongoing and collective basis. Rather than proposing quick fixes, we should be spreading new practices. We don’t need blueprints, but points of departure." lets break this down: "create spaces where people can discuss and implement solutions directly" ok... so do that... buy land, incorporate a town, and so this. "spreading new practices." sure.. they can do that right now in their affinity cells and then in their towns. "We don’t need blueprints, but points of departure."" this is just rhetoric. unless we are to admit that the systems as they are , are actually ok.. and all the left is asking for is for THEM to depart ... but they can , see the point about building their own towns. "Rather than proposing quick fixes," yup... nothing i just laid out is quick ---------------- "Our one demand: don’t mess with us." lets remember this is EXACTLY what jan6th-insurrectionists want. it is incredible how fascists are better at using direct action other anarchist techniques then the left.
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@micahcook2408 it would be interesting to find out the finer details of the rejection of that film/music production house.
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gotta erase the religious meme...
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so what is the Andrewism curriculum?
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cool cool... is part 3 : Why Anarchy Fails The purpose of the video would be to be how to DEFEND it, who and what it's antagonists are. calling out the holes as a means to monitor , guard, manage, plug them, etc.
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i was GOING to say ... Can we get a vision of non-tropical solarpunk? 😅 but you beat me to it!! Im excited for the BIOREGION collaborations. . THANK YOU!
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thank you for the upfront definition of traditional Luddites. A LOT of people lose that meaning. ------ let's not forget though.... luddites are not anti-capitalist, they are not de-growth
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who here has land? a business? who here knows an organization to join that can provide shelter, sustenance, and the work within itself to build the structures we want? who here is able to reject all the luxuries that we currently have, to build anew? and of not.... what are we able to start deconstructing and reforging, RIGHT NOW, outside of the current system?
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library economies is something i VERY much support in concept..... soo..... where are they? how do we support them in the same environment that institutional libraries are getting budget cuts?
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@ meaning? be specific with your words. what people? dense about what? when lefties are dense about how smart trump is with the weave. when the right is dense about maga being white-Christian-nationalist and completely anti-american your comment can be taken by all sides to their advantage. it helps no one to use language so loosely.
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a question: do you mean just in teaching method? or would you gut the entire curriculum? my teachers taught the curriculum and additionally invoked skepticism, curiosity to explore ideas, accepted challenge.... i totally accept that i just had awesome teachers. but could you ( as a teacher) expand on if you would keep the curriculum and work in thee less hierarchical methods? or ... what exactly. i just don't have the perspective from how this works in reality.
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of course OP can not resolve this... they are just an online entertainer. the theme of my comment is, where are the "leaders", the facilitates, the larger bodies that are making the library movement happen? where are the hype-people that get that information to the masses not jsut vague broad strokes, that is what this channel does. i am in a metropolis that has Tool libraries, library of things, library makerspace, fab lab, hackerspaces, all the things... but there marketing is seemingly unsubstantial. its jsut a shame. disappointed.. that is the word i have towards the left.
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spaces of encounter , it has a nice ring. as of right now we have places of "encounter". i think the shift is just a social paradigm shift. IMO, it is PEOPLE that are the issue here regarding spaces of encounter. Many people consider public transportation a space of encounter, a bar as a space of encounter, a book store, the grocery store. .... on the other hand... many people consider those same places as spaces where you better NOT dare talk to them. this is the kernel of truth the MGTOW and INCELs start from, then go off the deep end. we talk about considerations for many people... but not for all people. people have different considerations for the culture of "encounter". --- 11:38 " Finally, remember the concept of placings, that any and everywhere can become a space of encounter, produced and reproduced through the interactions, movements, and practices of a people intent on being free. " how do we respect people who do not want to be bothered while at the "anywhere", mundane places of gathering (laundromat, library, bookstore, grocery store, mass transportation, bar, park) of course , not being persistent after a declined encounter is the proper response if an encounter has been initiated... but what about the people that simply do NOT want to be encountered AT ALL to begin with? ( social cues are hard.... y'alll)
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i can certainly see the white-christian-nationalists LOVVVING the proposed free schooling proposed here. not needing to teach their tribe about other tribes, no accountability to facts, no diversity or interaction with the rest of society. just them and their own and the trades they need to survive. teach kids to read through and only their holy text. learn skills only through apprenticeship not being allowed to write down their knowledge. socially enforced agraphia for parts of their community that they want as the subservient class while the clergy remain fully educated. i just feel like we have ben down this path before and it was a hell of a time getting put of it.
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fight fire with fire IS a legitamate form of fighting a fire... and i have yet to see a reason why fighting capitalism with capitalism( temporarily anyway) wouldn't work. i absolutlely agree with "counter institutions" and strageties to defend them .... but a) why is this 38 minutes into the video b) " i really can't say" is what EVERY SINGLE ANARCHIST says on this issue. i'm not looking for a single silver bullet... but SOME semblance of united front on the matter. the fact that "how to start a revolution " is a year old and has 88K views should have resulted in tangible action... ... if any one of the 88k people can speak about the action they have taken in this year from the advice in the video.... they should speak up.
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This seems to be a good community to ask. What are some anti-capitalist "jobs"? not volunteer programs that you need a paying job to support yourself but instead work that is anti-capitalist and can fully support your life while we are in a capitalist system. Becoming a farmer or running off into the woods is not what i am referring to. i am looking for practical ideas for city living in the united states that an every day person could do. Thank you in advance.
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@andrewrandrianasulu_ post-religion is cool too. for sure. i like the bible... it is a pretty good cautionary tale about abusive authoritarian, cults, mobs, dogma. i add the bible to the rest of the Human Mythos.
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the conclusion says that we are being "stupef[ied] and [made ]servile", that case can definitely be made. just curious why people can't be critically thinking, politically involved, empathetic, freely associating people now during and through hierarchical reigns. why will it take the dismantling of hierarchy, first, to get there? the conclusion says that we are being "stupef[ied] and [made ]servile". wouldn't us liberating ourselves from service and the stupefaction dissolve the power that we allow hierarchy to have over us? i feel like the equation can be solved this way of course but if we move some terms flip some operators it would be easier to solve the equation no? making an ethereal concept the enemy and not the people upholding it accountable, collaborators in the system uphold the system, just sounds like a cop out. how does a group with no power, on the bottom of current hierarchies, gain the power to dismantle the hierarchy? how do the oppressed fight the boogie man? i have yet to see an argument here for that. because i know how groups being oppressed dismantle other groups that are oppressing them ... we have all of human battle history for that one ... as well as all of histories documentation of crushing defeats on the matter. that route is absolutely not viable. IMO this fight has become granule enough to be fought on the individual level across all members of a community. this is essentially how corps oppress to begin with. saturate markets with subsidiaries to obfuscate that they are behind anything. spread the burden across many lines of business, many entities, many revenue streams. when will the fighters against oppress start treating this like the war it is? (i know i know, just an informative entertaining youtube video, not an active movement, just one persons 7:38 video essay on some shower thoughts. which of course is appreciated. just a shame this is the extent of supposed "radical" content. )
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@stathisxanthopoulos1933 in that case, cool stuff.
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@Rastaferrari829 being on "my side" is irrelevant. i was demonstrating that your comment "don't you love when people are purposely dense?" can be weaponized... so you ought to be careful. point it at the right target and don't let it get into the enemies hands. loose language is how we got into this dystopian magat-administration. -- we know the slippery slopes No animal shall sleep in a bed ...with sheets. No animal shall drink alcohol ...to excess. No animal shall kill any other animal ...without cause. All animals are equal, ...but some animals are more equal than others. WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
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what are your thoughts of removing kitchens in home? forcing people into communal kitchens. for that matter, what REALLY do we need at "home". this is more of a thought experiment, Reductio ad absurdum
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"What Can We Do When The System Fails Us?" ... um... the left has had this answer for a 100+ years and they have failed... the right has succeeded in the system they want. the left failed at "seizing the means of production" the right has succeeded in capitalist dominance. "THE System" is not just the bad parts of society... "THE System " is the entirety of the Anthropocene. WE are "THE System" and we have failed ourselves.
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hm .. im interested in hearing how a Transhumanist with their high tech integrates such a low tech idea like Solarpunk. I can imagine a pretty large class gap forming there. The philosophies are nearly opposite on several levels.
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@fl00fydragon that's a much better view than the transhumanist ideas i've seen previously. maybe because, like you stated, you are a socialist transhumanist and not the as seen-on-tv citizens of cities like Elysium or entities like Meths . thank you for the perspective.
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the "cooperative forest" is not exactly a great example of reciprocity..... forests do not "cooperate" they are cutthroat. their is constant plundering, warfare, dominance, offensive and counter offensive. it is layered warfare that keep tries to keep a status quo, an equilibrium of just enough death and just enough life. plants creating bio weapons, insects harvesting mass amounts of resources, predators leaving corpses for scavengers to clean before the soil below it become literally putrid and ungrowable till the area is cleansed. the forest is full of one entity leaving problem in its wake. -- what the forest is... is full of opportunists. upper castes turning extraterrestrial energy into units of terrestrial energy/resource. death of that entity then gets used as a resource by a lower caste that turns that into a unit of energy in their own way. and further down till entropy stops. niche opportunists, often monopolists... that is the forest
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it is great to think how we teach the next generation. One of the best ways to learn a persons world view is what they want to pass on to the next generation.
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check out: Kino's Journey
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hm ... "Anarcho-transhumanists" ... i always get more of an An-Prim vibe from Solarpunk. how do you reconcile the high tech of Transhumanism and the lo tech of Solarpunk?
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@wiggy009 gotcha ty
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@cloudthief8918 "How we see technology" is absolutely a valid point. that leads to how technology is, and it's individual resources, are made and gathered. Along with the use cases and discarding of such technology. is there literature on how Solarpunk reconciles this? i would be interested in reading it. If we think about just a cellphone: -lithium, gold, mercury, nickel, cobalt, crude oil. all materials that cause ecological damage to collect. let alone the human rights violations that happen too. -the factories that put together the phones consistently have human rights violations -the 'recycling' process for them are fraught with corruption, human rights violations, and extremely toxic practices of harvesting some materials back and dumping the rest. Off the top of my head the only impactful answers are ... less than desired. tough regulation with tough enforcement on production (what's available for products) /or/ wartime levels rationing, and placing the world on triage. (what's available to the people) the least individually impactful options but most doable ... the anarchistic community laughs down. (individual action and voting) swaying the hearts and minds of ever single person to "be better" .... the most time consuming option (teach ethics, reason, logic, empathy) Solarpunk sounds nice and utopian and pretty and helpful. how does it get their though? how does it address resource management and recycling? how does it deal with capitalisms? how does it deal with dissidents? who does Solarpunk recruit? from what i have seen there is a large arts community in it but is there a push for material engineers, environmental engineers, city planners?
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@michaelcho1201 good luck. keep us updated with what you find.
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"not to be confused with fore, expertise, influence, respect of coordination". i dont understand why "force" is in there....
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"i will teach not what to think but how to think" i know this SOUNDS good... but imagine telling this to a white-christian-nationalist.... being taught "HOW" to think will just be the new critique. the church could EASILY so the same think... that they are not teaching what to think , just how to think, how to think like good obedient god fearing sinners. you say it yourself " education is necessarily political"
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@Andrewism definitely a fair answer. i definitely appreciate the video and the response. i just don't think i see ..."critical pedagogy, teaching social justice, education as a lifelong, interactive, and cooperative process, free association, open resources, etc. " ... as a curriculum. these are more concepts and modes of operating as a human. a person can be raised with all these concepts and be a great person... and also have zero practical knowledge on how to interact with reality. it really does al sound great. i just have not been presented evidence of this being a practical large scale paradigm shift. i'll keep watching and learning and banging my head against the keyboard till it makes sense.
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The Long Now Foundation just put out a video around this topic. David Rooney | A History of Civilization in Twelve Clocks - https://youtu.be/usv9o2I_y9o "in 1884 when the western world's government representatives had decided that all the people of earth should march to the beat of one clock it was this clock it was the powerful living embodiment of all that anarchists like burden despised authority and hierarchy this was to have been the end of marshall bourdain's journey that day in 1894 if he hadn't tripped and bungled the plan marshall bordan had been moments away from bombing greenwich meantime itself"
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over all good job. classic boogieman scapegoating. the bottom class claims the illuminati is the higher class the higher class claims the illuminati is the low class one religious group against another the poor vs the rich "the illuminati" is the religion of the pseudo-skeptic or fanatic that wants to cut things into tribal terms to claim themselves as the victim, the threatened, the attacked. "Theories only move people to action when they provide an accurate explanation of the things they are experiencing, and offer viable ways for them to act to change things." > Absolutely correct. "We need to build powerful horizontal networks that can act autonomously, rendering the authorities obsolete. We can accomplish the free society we aim for collaboratively, through strikes and sabotage, but also through constructing the world we want to live in here and now, in our communities." > the hard part is constructing the world we want while in a world aimed at not allowing that to happen. not living in hypocrisy at the same time. "become ungovernable." > that's good PR.
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the opening sequence reminded me of Animatrix
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the trumpies really do embody anarchy... they have solidarity, shared interests, provide each other mutual aid, patriarchy and misogyny allows them to be free to do as they wish with trad-wives that agree, they use decentralized affinity cells, they are "against" federal rule, they are "for" responsibility for ourselves. they TOO dont really like snitching to cops... they would rather deal with people themselves, i.e. jim crow 'justice'. this is mutual defense to them. - lining up anarchy and what the right does, and wants to go back to... should really show that it is all about the PEOPLE implementing anarchy, not the system itself. the differences between Andrewism Anarchy and trumpies is that the trumpies have the power, numbers and assets to implement the world they want to live in and the anarchy in this video are utopian and fruitless right now. - i am not one for for convinced of anarchism, its fine for the most part when discussing the nice people in it. i need to hear about injustice and resolution. i need to hear about miscontents. i need to hear about criminal intent. the system we have is not about the good events in society it is about the bad events in society.
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@wintermute5974 tell that to the leftists that wrote "Why We Don't Make Demands" on crimethinc they do not want to interact with the political system. they want to be a nuisance until the world looks the say they want... but not to tell people what the world ought to look like. naive childish nonsense. now, to its credit.... IMO we do need these kinds of people. fodder for the media. they are the rattle making the noise while others get the inoculations administered. unfortunately the left lacks needles, syringes and inoculations as well inn any number that would help. 1) we need more leftists of all strokes 2) we need funding 3) we need training 4) we need action plans
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