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Also, the Soviets occupied ethnic Belarusian, Ukrainian and Lithuanian territory seized by Poland in 1921. All ethnic Polish territory was occupied by Germany.
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There was no war between Poland and Russia. The Polish commander in chief Śmigły-Rydz had ordered his troops not to fight the Soviets.
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@1996koke In the early 19th century, Armenians were the majority in Tbilisi, the capital of Georgia. Does that mean that Tbilisi isn't really Georgian?
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@1996koke First you said ethnic conglomerate, now you say ethnic majority. You can't have it both you know.
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@1996koke Many Russians in Ukraine want to be part of Russia, should Russia annex Ukraine?
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@1996koke It was not a conglomerate of different nationalities
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@1996koke You say that Russia has the right to annex eastern Ukraine since most people there are Russians. Well, most people in Western Belarus and Ukraine were Belarusians and Ukrainians, so why do you think it belongs to Poland?
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@1996koke Vilnius belongs to Lithuania because all other nationalities settled there later. Until the 1920s every second inhabitant of Kiev was Russian, does that mean that Kiev belongs to Russia?
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@1996koke There were ethnic Germans living in western Poland. When Germany and Poland fought in 1939 they were doing the same thing.
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"the Red Army under Stalin was pretty hopeless prior to the German invasion" What armies weren't hopeless? British army? French army?
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@i-etranger That's why the leaders of the Belarusian SSR asked Stalin to annex the region to their republic and move the capital from Minsk to Vilnius. But Stalin refused and gave the region to Lithuania. Because it belonged to Lithuania.
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Poland was not a democratic state. It was a right-wing dictatorship and one of the few countries that already had anti-Semitic laws before the Nazi occupation.
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@kapergames5038 The Polish constitution said that only a Catholic could be head of state, there were anti-Jewish laws, the gov't tried to polonize the Belarusians in the east and wanted to have colonies in Africa. Sounds pretty right-wing to me. "Poland will be a great power or she'll cease to exist" Pilsudski "We want to base our relationships on love, but there is one kind of love for countrymen and another for aliens. Their percentage among us is definitely too high. The foreign element will have to see if it will not be better off elsewhere. Polish land for the Poles!" Stanislaw Grabski, the brother of Wladyslaw Grabski, the prime minister of Poland for a short period in 1920 and again in 1923-1925 "We aped great colonial plans and the violent forms of an anti-Semitic movement." Foreign minister Joseph Beck in his memoirs about the 1930s
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The Soviets didn't occupy any ethnic Polish territory. They occupied ethnic Belarusian and Ukrainian territory that Poland seized after WW1 and tried to colonize in the 1920s-30s. Poland was also one of the few European countries that already had anti-Semitic laws before WW2 and the Soviets abolished them. So many people were liberated at least partially.
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What should Russia give to Poland?
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@kapergames5038 In 1926, half of the Belarusians in Poland remained stateless and thus ineligible to vote. In elections to the local legislative assemblies, one Polish vote equaled four Belarusian. What kind of democracy is that?
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@impaugjuldivmax The territory occupied by the Soviet Union and Lithuania in 1939 wasn't Polish. It was Belarusian, Ukrainian and Lithuanian territory seized by Poland in 1921.
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@nicholascastellano5106 The USA supported the Italian fascists to prevent a socialist takeover
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@nicholascastellano5106 You think it's left-wing to hate people of other races, to kill homosexuals, the sick and disabled people, and to think women belong in the kitchen?
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Why do you think that buying time wasn't Stalin's reason for working with Hitler? And why do you think he did a land grab?
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@HW-sw5gb "if the Soviets were purely concerned with defeating the Nazis, they probably would have acted in 1940" why do you think so?
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@HW-sw5gb "let the West lose power a bit in the process" What Western power? The capitalist economies were destroyed by the Great Depression and the West did nothing to stop Nazi rearmament and aggression for years.
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@HW-sw5gb Do you have any sources for your claims?
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@nicholascastellano5106 So the US supported a communist takeover
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@nicholascastellano5106 No, they supported Mussolini right from the beginning
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@nicholascastellano5106 Do you have any sources for your claims? Like that the USA started supporting Mussolini just before his end..... When the US was fighting him?
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@nicholascastellano5106 From Thank God They're on Our Side: The United States and Right-Wing Dictatorships, 1921-1965 by David F. Schmitz (University of North Carolina Press, 1999): "American officials first articulated their emerging rationale for supporting right-wing dictatorships in response to the post-World War I events in Italy. American support of Benito Mussolini was based on a view of events in Italy that served American interests. Two ideas were central to this view: that there was a threat of Bolshevism in Italy and that Italy was not prepared for democratic government. This unpreparedness and inability of self-government created the instability that bred Bolshevism. These beliefs served to legitimize U.S. support of Mussolini in the name of defending liberalism. To justify this new perspective, State Department officials reclassified Italy and ignored Mussolini's destruction of a liberal constitutional government. A nation that had been an ally during the war was now treated as if it were an ungovernable developing nation in need of a firm hand to guide it. p. 11 https://books.google.nl/books?id=ck_qCQAAQBAJ&pg=PA11 "The Matteotti Affair had demonstrated how fragile Mussolini's control might prove to be if another major internal crisis occurred in Italy. American leaders urged the Italians to settle the question of Italy's war debt to the United States so private American capital could again be loaned to Italy. Italy received the most favorable debt settlement of any nation, and American private capital was soon flowing into Italy. Republican officials believed that this capital would not only help stabilize the Mussolini government by aiding economic recovery, and therefore provide for increased American trade, but that it would help maintain the moderates in power in provide the United States with a lever to influence events in Italy and to curb any national chauvinism in the fascists' foreign policy. After a year of renewed worry about instability and social revolution in Italy, policymakers hoped to have loans in hand through which they could limit future swings of the Italian political pendulum. By 1930 American firms had loaned Italy over $460 million, while direct investments by American companies had reached over $121 million and portfolio investments accounted for almost $280 million more in American investment." p. 43
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Why do you think Chamberlain was trying to rearm and Britain could do little in 1938?
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@jamesbeeching4341 Why do you think Chamberlain was buying time?
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The destruction of Czechoslovakia made Hitler much stronger militarily and economically. The Czechs had a big army and were protected by their mountains and well fortified border. The Germans would have suffered big losses if they tried to take them by force. The Czechs also had big industries, which were now in German hands. The Soviet occupation of Western Ukraine and Belarus in 1939 did the opposite because they prevented the Nazi troops from coming directly to the Soviet border. In 1941 the Germans came really close to Moscow, had they occupied all of Poland in 1939 it's possible that they would have reached Moscow in 1941 and win the war.
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If Britain could do nothing to stop Germany by force, why do you expect the Soviets to do it? Maybe Stalin was also buying time?
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