Comments by "" (@neutronalchemist3241) on "World's Worst Warships - Book Review with Drach (Part 2 of 2)" video.
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@Drachinifel One should say that 3 light cruisers,
and 10 destroyers should be able to deal with 1 light cruiser and 5 destroyers, but at Kolombangara id didn't go exactly that way. Battles with far more favorable odds than being in two and having to deal with six had been botched. At Cape Spada the odds were favourble to the Brits due to sheer numbers.
The Giovanni dalla Bande Nere dealed quite well anyway. In a 6 vs. 1 battle it received two hits, with limited damages, in exchange of one, until the Brits decided to quit. Yeah, the Colleoni had been immobilised by a single hit, but it had been the presence of the destroyers that made the difference, since three of them could deal with the immobilised ship, while the others kept the single Italian cruisers at bay.
Mind too that five years separated the Colleoni (laid down 1928) by the Sidney (laid down 1933). The contemporary Condottieri class cruisers were the Duca D'Aosta, or even the Duca Degli Abruzzi, that were very well protected.
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@Drachinifel Actually the Italian ships were chasing the destroyers Sydney and Havock and turned when they saw Sidney AND OTHER THREE DESTROYERS. At that point the odds were clearly in favour of the British. To describe the battle as "two cruisers that run for their lives as soon as they sighted another cruiser", not mentioning the presence of OTHER FIVE BRITISH SHIPS, is or ill-informed, or dishonest. Choose one.
As said, it had been the presence of the destroyers that made the difference in the outcome of the battle, since three of them could deal with the immobilised ship (that was finished with three torpedoes), while the other ships could keep the single Italian cruisers at bay.
After the sinking of the Colleoni the battle went on 6 vs. 1 for another hour, until the Sidney decided to quit. At that point the Brits had scored two hits on the Bande Nere vs. one of the Italian unit on the Sidney, all of them with light damages. The Bande Nere speed was reduced to 28 knots, due to a boiler overheating, for half an hour, so it seems odd that the Brits had not been able to close distance having at least a 4 knots advantage.
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@Drachinifel Sorry, they were chasing the second destroyers flotilla of Nicholson, (destroyers Hasty, Hero, Hyperion, Ilex), and turned when they saw Sydney and Havock.
You are talking of false narrative? Three destroyers sunk the immobilised ship, while a cruiser and other two destroyers (so mantaining a numerical superiority) could deal with the other cruiser. It had been the presence of the destroyers that made the difference in the outcome of the battle. To describe the battle as "two cruisers that run for their lives as soon as they sighted another cruiser", not mentioning the presence of OTHER FIVE BRITISH SHIPS, is or ill-informed, or dishonest. Choose one.
Have you read my first message, where I wrote "After the battle became a 6 vs.1 It had been the Sidney that in the end made smoke and broke the contact, BECAUSE IT WAS RUNNING OUT OF AMMUNITIONS."?
In a 1 vs. 6 battle it was not really surprising that he didn't decide to quit because he was scared. BUT you wrote "the Italian ships survival was largely on account of them running away fast enough to keep the range open to a degree that scoring hits was quite hard." Since the Italian ship was limited to 28 knots for half an hour, while the Brits could steam at least at 32 knots, it doesn't seem the case.
So you didn't mention them because you didn't like their class?
Pretended battles don't count, sorry.
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We'll never know what really happened to the Hood, but vs. the Prince of Wales, that had serious teething problems that silenced all of his guns bar one, the Bismarck received worse damages that it inflicted.
"still floating" is not that a great result. The very low metacentric height made the Bismarck almost impossible to capsize (in return it made it a poor shooting platform, due to the very short roll time), but the ship was sinking anyway, only slower. The Dorsetshire's torpedo actually hit the superstructure (near to the catapult), because the ship's superstructure was already underwater. Much shells hit it, but the battle had been already over in quite a few minutes. "Most of the British shells struck the forward superstructure of Bismarck with the hits late in the action simply rearranging the debris created by earlier shell hits."
The ship's four turrets scheme was quite outdated. For a ship that big it lacked system's redundance and the lack of pumps and valves between the fuel tanks was a major flaw (a single hit on a tank, and the ship was condemned to leak fuel until drydocked), her two rudders were placed so close that it was near to impossible a hit damaging the first wouldn't damage the second too. It shared a design flaw with all the Germans' major ships of her generation, that made her stern section too fragile. The AA fire proved to be ineffective. The very high pressure engines gave her long endurance, but proved to be problematic on any German ship that lived enough.
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