Comments by "" (@neutronalchemist3241) on "The Mail Standard: Steel Throat Protector of the Medieval Soldier" video.

  1. Shit happens. There is nothing like a perfect protection. Armors are always a compromise between protection, weight, comfort and mobility.
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  2. Exactly because the standard, or pixane, replaced the aventail (that must be worn over the cuirass, if you wanted to be able to remove the helmet at some point, and so was less safe). Once removed the aventail, the bascinet evolved in two directions, both in Italy, the sallet and the barbute. Early sallets were infact hardly distinguishable from early barbutes.
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  3.  @sergarlantyrell7847  You are mixing knight protection with infantrymen protection. Even if they gained popularity later with higher classes, sallet and barbute started as one-piece helmets to protect infantrymen and city militias, they were equivalent of the kettle hat, or of the open fc bascinets. The great bascinet and the armet were typical of cavalrymen. Early armets in Italy were contemporary of early sallets and barbute (first half of 15th century). In Northern Europe the great bascinet simply remained in use for some decade further and feel out of favour only in the second half of 15th century.
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  4.  @sergarlantyrell7847  A bascinet with aventail and without visor is not that much of a knightly helmet, if not worn under a great helm, for when things became serious. Is an evolution we seen several times. Kights first wore a nasal helmet with hausberk, not really different form that of infantrymen. Then that protection was considered too light, and evolved first into the enclosed helmet, then in the great helm, to wear over the cervelliere, or over the bascinet (evolved from the cervelliere, probably in Italy that too). At that point the protection was too bulky, knights tended to not use the great helm any more over the bascinet, that was too light, so it evolved into the visored bascinet, and then into the great bascinet, that was too bulky again. In Italy, the standard, or pixane, replaced the aventail (that must be worn over the cuirass, if you wanted to be able to remove the helmet at some point, and so was less safe). Once removed the aventail, and replaced it with the standard, the bascinet evolved in two directions, the sallet and the barbute. Early sallets were infact hardly distinguishable from early barbutes. High end products tend to be more preserved that the simplest pieces, and city militias were not poor, but the barbute was a simple helmet to make by definition, and there are tons of preserved barbutes whose craftmanship was not better than that of the contemporary kettle hats. http://vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.php?s=66f93c199c3eac6848997735ef636d45&attachmentid=36689&stc=1 https://farm2.static.flickr.com/1557/24368832943_8b6edf33d0.jpg As already said, exactly as the Sallet, the barbute gained popularity with higher classes too, and was worn by cavalrymen too. Why not? For scouting or light skirmishes it had advantages over the heavier helmets. and there will always be someone that will prefer freedom of movements/breathability/less restricted vision over protection even in pitched battles.
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  5. Why bother? In a Hollywood movie it will be worn only by minions, and it will be sliced through with a butter knife, or pierced with a walking stick.
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