Comments by "" (@neutronalchemist3241) on "The Icarus Project"
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@Silver_Prussian It's always funny to hear a battleplan consisting in "we will win, because we can die a lot more than them".
The enemy is always happy to oblige with the second part.
What the "Russians love" fucked them in the Crimean war, Russo-Japanese war, World War First, Afghanistan...
"modernised" is the magic word. It stands for "old Soviet junk we can't replace once it will be turned to scrap metal like the junk that came before". Anyone can see the Russians are using much less tanks, or any kind of vehicle for that matter, than they did in the first months of war. Nor that they can remotely "modernize" enough tanks. Russians already used ass-old T62 and T64B, without reactive armor, stabilizer or night vision, in first line. No army out of subsaharian Africa (and few even there) would have put a trained crew in those coffins, but Russian reasoning was "we will never be able to give you something better, so you can very well die there".
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@Silver_Prussian It seems more the Russian one, judging by dead and wounded soldiers left rotting on the field.
Yes, they were, and badly lost by Russia. all of them.
That's what Russian schools teach? Sorry. The Crimean war had been fought to avoid Russia to take advantage of the Ottoman weakness to expand in the Balkans. French and British didn't want to "get Crimea or establish any foothold in the black sea" (had they wanted, they would have, since their fleets had no problem in doing everything they wanted for the duration of the war in the Black sea). They wanted to demonstrate Russia its expansionism could led to lose something more important than what it could gain, and they succeeded. Despite the poor management of the war, by the French and Brits (the Crimean war is considered among the lowest points reached by Western military proveness) the Russians, despite being on the defensive on their home soil, had about double their casualties (because that's the Russian way of fighting) and, once Sevastopol had been taken, in front of the perspective of losing Crimea, Russia sued for peace, and "all the parts of the Ottoman territory of which the Russian troop were in possession". Russia returned the Southern Bessarabia to Moldavia and had to "not establish any naval or military arsenal on the Black Sea coast".
BTW, other than having been beaten at home by an expeditionary force had been an evident humiliation for Russia (no compulsory disarmament had ever been imposed on a great power previously...). It's not curious how the Crimean war is considered an example of abysmal management of military affairs for western countries, despite they had been evidently superior to their adversary? It's like the Russians being shit at fighing is taken for granted.
Oh, you found an example of a battle the Russians won? How impressive... 😂I could have given you some other example had you asked.
What the "Russians love" fucked them in the Crimean WAR, Russo-Japanese WAR, First World WAR, Afghanistan WAR...
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@Silver_Prussian Russia Invaded Ukraine, not the other way round, and Russians are UN certified war criminals, not the other way round, so the "dirty work" is all their, they eagerly wanted it, and they can thank only themself.
Ukraine entering NATO was not on schedule, sorry (not that Russia has a say in what organization a sovereign country can join or not), while, thank to the invasion, Sweden and Finland are going to really join NATO, while Russia keeps his mouth well shut, because in the meantime the "second army in the world" is having its ass spanked by the 22nd, partly armed with some NATO leftover.
It's a wonder how Russians are not able to grasp their armed forces, thanks to the display in Ukraine, have become the world's butt-joke.
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