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  2. How the tests had been performed. Five comparatives planned, four actually made. N.1: FW190 vs. Macchi C.205N (notice, the C.205N and the C.205V were two completely different aircrafts). An exchange between pilots, with col. Tondi on the Fw 190A-5 (n.1163), and Hptm Behrens on the Macchi 205N (MM.499). First climbing to 8,000 meters, then fighting (with change of positions); then descend to 6,000 meters with a speed and combat test; then fight at 2,000 meters. The Fw 190 climbs better than the C.205N because the Macchi can't use full power due to the too small radiator (an easy fix, but those were still prototypes), In mockup fight at 8000 they were rougly equal. At 6,000 meters the FW190 is faster, and this helps a lot, because when the Macchi is in a good position (starting at the back of the German), the '190 sprints away. The FW190 was faster in sustained dive too. N.2: FW190 vs. Fiat G55. G.55 piloted by Tondi (MM.492) against Hptm Behrens with the same '190. Same protocol. Faster takeoff for the G.55, similar initial climb, then the G.55 climbs better to 5,000 meters, and roughly equal to 8,000 meters. Dog-fight at 8000: the Fiat turns better, while the '190 is superior in roll (it was superior in roll to anything), although, at 8,000 meters, it was clearly lacking in power and lift. At 6,000 meters the '190 is 15km/h faster than the G55 (the FW190 had the max speed exactly at 6000m). N.3: FW190 vs. Reggiane 2005. Ten.col. Baylon with Reggiane 2005, Behrens with Fw 190. In this test the climb to 8,000 meters was omitted. In the climb to 6000m, they were equivalent although the Reggiane couldn't use full power due to the small radiator (same as above); 'equivalent' in dogfight at 6,000 and 2,000 meters; in the speed test at 6000m, the Fw 190 is slightly faster. N.4: Pilots' exchange Maj. Gasperi with the '109G, St. Ing. Beauvais, with the C.205V (MM.9288). The test had to be cancelled due to a problem to the hydraulic system of the Macchi's undercarriage. N.5. Bf109G vs. G.55. This is the only one that sees the '109G-4 (pilot, Beauvais) as protagonist, this time against Gasperi's G.55. Standard protocol apart from the omission of the test at 2,000 meters, being the Germans evidently more interested in the high altitude capabilities of these fighters. The G.55 is faster in the first 2,000 meters of ascent, but not by much; the '109 is faster up to 5,000 meters, then the G.55 took the lead again to 8000m, but the differences were small in all cases. In dogfight, the G.55 was considered 'a little better' at all altitudes, the '109 was 'a little faster' at 6000m, And finally the dive test. Both these two planes and the C.205V of the 'observer' Baylon participated in it: all three planes, proved to be equally fast. So the German interest was justified. The G.55 was easily on par with the best they had, and better at high altitude, despite carrying more guns, ammos and fuel. More. The FW190 required 100 octane C3 fuel, that the Germans had in short supply. The Italians and the Bf109 used more easily available B4, 87 octane, fuel. But the Bf109 fuselage was already stretched by the DB605 engine. It couldn't carry more weight. While, with his larger wings, to install the DB603 in the Fiat G55 was almost plug and play.
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  35. The French air force was transitioning to a newer generation of aircraft (as had the Luftwaffe in 1937-38 and the RAF in 1938-39) . So the French were, having considerable difficulty in equipping squadrons with new aircrafts as well as maintaining operational ready rates. In early 1940, some French squadrons ran in-commission rates of barely 40 percent. In may 1940, the output had reached 619 combat aircraft per month produced in France (and 170 additional produced in the US on French orders). Therefore, France not only was outproducing Germany with modern combat aircrafts in this period but was the number 1 manufacturer in the world, unfortunately, it was too late. Of their 28 Fighter groups: 16 had the obsolete Ms406, of which 8 were re-equipping with the Dewotine D520 4 had Hawk 75s 8 had Bloch 151 and 152s Of those, on paper, only the D520 were able to compete with the Bf109e on equal terms. The Ms406 was manuverable but slow, the Curtiss Hawk was not much faster than the Ms406 and was underarmed and the Bloch 151, altough sturdy and well armed, was a very slow climber and had poor agility. However, even in those conditions the French campaign had been incredibly costly for the Luftwaffe. 28% of its front line strength, 1401 aircrafts, were destroyed 672 were damaged, making 36% of the Luftwaffe strength lost or damaged. Luftwaffe's casualties amounted to 6,653 men, including 4,417 highly trained aircrew. All losses that costed dearly in the subsequent Battle of Britain. The single day in which the Luftwaffe lost more aircrafts in the entire war had been 10 may 1940, with 308 aircrafts lost in 24 hours. At the time of Dunkirk the Luftwaffe was near to exhaustion and the Allied gained air superiority, but the situation on the field was so compromised that it made no difference.
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  36. Five comparatives planned, four actually made. N.1: FW190 vs. Macchi C.205N (notice, the C.205N and the C.205V were two completely different aircrafts). An exchange between pilots, with col. Tondi on the Fw 190A-5 (n.1163), and Hptm Behrens on the Macchi 205N (MM.499). First climbing to 8,000 meters, then fighting (with change of positions); then descend to 6,000 meters with a speed and combat test; then fight at 2,000 meters. The Fw 190 climbs better than the C.205N because the Macchi can't use full power due to the too small radiator (an easy fix, but those were still prototypes), In mockup fight at 8000 they were rougly equal. At 6,000 meters the FW190 is faster, and this helps a lot, because when the Macchi is in a good position (starting at the back of the German), the '190 sprints away. N.2: FW190 vs. Fiat G55. G.55 piloted by Tondi (MM.492) against Hptm Behrens with the same '190. Same protocol. Faster takeoff for the G.55, similar initial climb, then the G.55 climbs better to 5,000 meters, and roughly equal to 8,000 meters. Dog-fight at 8000: the Fiat turns better, while the '190 is superior in roll (it was superior in roll to anything), although, at 8,000 meters, it was clearly lacking in power and lift. At 6,000 meters the '190 is 15km/h faster than the G55 (the FW190 had the max speed exactly at 6000m). N.3: FW190 vs. Reggiane 2005. Ten.col. Baylon with Reggiane 2005, Behrens with Fw 190. In this test the climb to 8,000 meters was omitted. In the climb to 6000m, they were equivalent although the Reggiane couldn't use full power due to the small radiator (same as above); 'equivalent' in dogfight at 6,000 and 2,000 meters; in the speed test at 6000m, the Fw 190 is slightly faster. N.4: Pilots' exchange Maj. Gasperi with the '109G, St. Ing. Beauvais, with the C.205V (MM.9288). The test had to be cancelled due to a problem to the hydraulic system of the Macchi's undercarriage. N.5. Bf109G vs. G.55. This is the only one that sees the '109G-4 (pilot, Beauvais) as protagonist, this time against Gasperi's G.55. Standard protocol apart from the omission of the test at 2,000 meters, being the Germans evidently more interested in the high altitude capabilities of these fighters. The G.55 is faster in the first 2,000 meters of ascent, but not by much; the '109 is faster up to 5,000 meters, then the G.55 took the lead again to 8000m, but the differences were small in all cases. In dogfight, the G.55 was considered 'a little better' at all altitudes, the '109 was 'a little faster' at 6000m, And finally the dive test. Both these two planes and the C.205V of the 'observer' Baylon participated in it: all three planes, proved to be equally fast. So the German interest was justified. The G.55 was easily on par with the best they had, and better at high altitude, despite carrying more guns, ammos and fuel. More. The FW190 required 100 octane C3 fuel, that the Germans had in short supply. The Italians and the Bf109 used more easily available B4, 87 octane, fuel. But the Bf109 fuselage was already stretched by the DB605 engine. It couldn't carry more weight. While, with his larger wings, to install the DB603 in the Fiat G55 was almost plug and play.
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  44.  @M4NAH1MEK0  As said, the Asso was developed by Isotta Fraschini indipendently, since the Regia Aeronautica didn't requested it, so it's developement had not the priority the DB601 or the Merlin had. Despite this, it had a maximum continuous power of 900 hp at 4000m, that's more than the DB600, while the DB601A had a maximum continuous power of 950 hp at 4500m and an emergency power of 1020hp at 4000m for five minutes. The Isotta Fraschini was slightly less powerful, but not in a different league, they were comparable (due to the "cube root law" rule, the difference in performances of two aircrafts equipped with them would have been negligible, and infact the Dewotine D520, equipped with an engine with similar performances, was perfectly comparable with the early Spitfires and Bf109), and several improvements had been designed (L.122, Reggiane 102) but not developed, because they would have ben only slight improvements over the DB601Aa for which Alfa Romeo acquired the production licence in 1939 and, as said, the Regia Aeronautica specifically requested inverted V engines. Yeah, they DID acquire foreign licences for radial engines. The Piaggo P.XI was the Gnome et Rohne 14K Mistral Major. The Alfa Romeo from the 125 to the 128 were the Bristol Jupiter and Pegasus. The Fiat A.74 and A.80 were P&W R1535 and 1690, altough heavily modified. From that base had been developed the Piaggio P.XII and P.XV, the Alfa Romeo 135 and 136 and the Fiat A.82. Your view of the relationship between higly skilled designers and their employers is quite naif. Guys like Castoldi, Gabrielli, Longhi and Zapata could have worked everywere they wanted, in Italy or abroad, and were higly paid by the respective employers to not do so. Fiat simply manufactured what it had been requested to. It's not like they where happy to produce low cost biplanes instead of more complex, and remunerative, aircrafts. Fact is that the last purchaser of the Cr.42 had been the Luftwaffe (see "evidencies"). You talked about "evidences", but you didn't brought any.
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