Comments by "" (@neutronalchemist3241) on "Forgotten Weapons" channel.

  1. It works perfectly fine.
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  2. Actually the Breda 30 could provide far more firepower than a BAR. As Ian stated, the weapon was originally issued with two spare barrels. After the first battles, the provision was increased to four. A barrel has to be changed after 200 rounds of almost continuous fire, so it happened quite often that those weapons fired more than 600 rounds continuously. That's full HMG territory.
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  3.  @jimbob1427  150 Rounds in a minute is what you could fire with the BAR, first to have to stop and take cover for five minutes, waiting for your weapon to cool off while the other guys fought. BREN gunners were expected to fire a magazine a minute (30 rounds theoretical, 27 real). At the start of the war it was contemplated a "rapid" fire, to use in emergency situations, of 7 magazines a minute. During the war, due to the practical experience on the field, it was REDUCED to 4 magazines a minute (120 theoretical rounds, 108 real), and keeping in mind that the entire provision of the LMG squad was of 20 magazines, so only 5 minutes of fire at that pace. That's why, in Allied reports on the Breda 30, and instruction given to the Allied soldiers that were ISSUED with the captured ones, the rate of fire and the reload time HAD NEVER BEEN DEEMED AS PROBLEMS. RL is quite different form movies.
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  4. It doesn't seem to be required infact.
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  5.  @SoWe1  Yes, there is that mechanical piece. The locking block. The locking block mechanically links the bolt with the barrel. It's face is in contact, with the bolt and it's pushed rearward by it, but its back is in contact with the barrel extention, so it pushes back the barrel at the same speed until it rotates out of the way. It's exactly the same working principle of the Browning 1917-1919. Only the block rotates instead of falling. Here's a 3d animation of the functioning of the gun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SwNqvUZSW8&t=8s Notice that's a scaled-up version of the action of the Glisenti 1910 pistol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NplYrBFTWrA&t=2s
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  6. It wasn't meant to be an aircraft mounted MG. It and had been adapted to aerial use in very limited numbers, simply because the Army destined the first 350 samples manufactured to the Aviation (that was a branch of the Army at that time) because they wanted it to be in full production first to start to distribute it to the troops. It was meant to be a point weapon. Like a long range shotgun. See the enemy, fill it's position with a dozen projectiles. Pretty useful to guard bottlenecks in the barbed wires or in alpine trails.
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  7. The M45A1 was adopted out of any competition due to the connections of Gen. William Keys. It had nothing to do with desires or performances.
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  8. BM stands for "Beretta Modifica", a modification of an existing model. So much it was a modification that many BM59 issued to the Italian troops had been done using original US made M1 receivers, and still had the original Springfield or Winchester markings on them. http://www.collezionareexordinanza.it/uploads/source/IMG_6484_1.jpg
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  9.  @hendriktonisson2915  For the last one, it's a completely made-up problem. Were the crews of belt-fed machine guns supposed to reload spent belts? This MG was made PRECISELY for sustained fire. It was a MG made specifically for suppressive fire (while, IE, the MG42 was a point weapon, and German Gunners were instructed to not use it for suppressive fire) because, as said, to insert the strips one after the other reduces the dead times in respect to changing belts.
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  10.  @hendriktonisson2915  The problem is exactly that you are jumping back and forth between now and WWII. "that is the reason why no one used feed strips after WW2" We are not using WWII belts either for that matter. The belts we use NOW are different form the WWII ones. Belts had to EVOLVE to phase out strips. "To my knowledge in WW2 MG ammo was not always distributed in belts and the usage of disintegrating belts was limited to aircraft MGs so reloading belts was quite common." NOT UNDER FIRE. IT WAS A BACKLINE ACTIVITY and it was made with belt loaders. The difference with the Breda 37 strip loader, is that the Breda 37 strip loader is faster than any manual belt loader I've seen. "Most GPMGs do not really require constantly holding the belt" NOW (and why the hell are you talking about GPMGs? This is a WWII MG). In WWII an MG jamming was not a question of "if", nor of "when". It was a question of "how often" and, since holding the belt reduced the jammings, it was done every time possible. Actually to change a belt requires MUCH morte time than simply keeping on inserting strips one after the other. The Breda Strips can be inserted without stopping fire at all. Again GPMG? GPMG are what's used NOW. This is a WWII MG!
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  11. Heavy. Expensive. Despite being heavy and expensive, several parts were flimsy and had to be changed during the war. Several parts of the action were not correctly dimensioned and/or were made of too soft metal. It needed the highest quality ammos and no dirt at all to work properly. If the correct reassembling procedure was not followed, the rifle could seriously harm the user. It was really a series of defects with only one redeeming quality. If everything was perfect, it was an accurate rifle.
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  12. The LF-57 costs much less. The MP5 is used by a lot of special units and small armies of rich nations. The LF-57 was studied to be a mass produced weapon for standard troops.
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  13. In the '80s selection for the 5.56 NATO rifle for the Italian Army, in the end, the AR70/90 competed with a AR15 derived rifle, the SOCIMI AR831.
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  14. This is actually brilliant. For an handgun made to be inexpensive, it's so much more elegant than an Hi-Point. It only needs a simpler disassembly method (not really difficult to implement) and a better trigger (there is no treason for it to be worse than any semiauto SA hammer trigger, it's only a question of specs and assembly).
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  15. Pure short recoil systems (like those used in handguns) and long bottleneck cartridges don't match well. In a short recoil system, in the moment the barrel stops, the case, in respect to the chamber, abruptly passes from "0" to the max speed. Long rifle cases have a lot of surface that's stuck to the chamber's walls, so, even if the pressure isn't high, with this abrupt acceleration there are high chances to damage the cases, sometimes break them, and so jam the action. To avoid this, there are several possibilities. To unlock the bolt from the barrel first than the rearward motion of the barrel ends, so allowing the residual pressure of the gasses to start extracting the case first than the barrel stops ("chiusura labile", like in the Fiat Revelli 1914). To use a lever action to ensure that the bolt recoils slightly faster than the barrel ( Browning M1919, Brixia 1920, Breda SAFAT...). To reduce the locking surface of the case (fluting the chamber). Or to reduce the friction between the case and the chamber (lubing the case). However this is not the only example. The Japanes Type 96 LMG had an oiler, and the Hispano Suiza Hs 404 cannon, and it's derivates in use up until today, has an internal oiler as well.
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  16. Infact. The heavier the bolt and the longer the bolt travel, the slower the fire rate. The spring tension has little importance (but it must be enough to reduce the speed of the bolt to values compatible with the survival of the receiver before the bolt impacts with it). Service SMGs (this one, the M3 Grease Gun, the STEN...) have fare heavier bolts than what's simply required to safely shoot their respective ammos, exactly to reduce the fire rate.
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  17.  @kane357lynch  "after the disappointing performances shown by the SA80 prototype, Biritish envoys reached a small workshop in Nicaragua, to ask a local mechanic known as Mr. Osorio to fix it. Mr. Osorio took the prototype and disappeared in his workshop for six hours first to return it to the envoys, completely changed. A Year later, the British Army was issued with what's now universally regarded as the best AR in the world".
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  18. The MG34 was adopted by the Germans only in 1938. Only it's bolt was composed of 28 precision machined parts (The Breda 30... four parts, recoil spring included?), the barrel change took way longer than that of the Breda and, when used as an LMG, to reload one of its "drum" 50 rounds magazines required more time and actions than to reload the magazine of a Breda 30 three times.
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  19. Giugiaro designed the PX4 Storm and CX4 carbine.
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  20. Grendel is not really an intermediate cartridge. Originally the goal of the designers was to duplicate the 6.5 Swede ballistic, but ultimately, with those dimension constraint, they only managed to duplicate the 6.5 Carcano (IE, PPU 6.5 Carcano round, 123 grains, 2690 FPS).
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  21.  @Horseshoecrabwarrior  The first intermediate cartridge to be adopted didn't hit 1500 foot-pounds (neither the precursor 8mm Ribeyrolle and 7.35X32 Terni). The 7.62x39, and even the 6.8 Remington SPC are barely above. The .223 Remington is well below and the 5.45X39 doesn't even hit 1200 foot-pounds. And those are the only intermediate cartridges that had been used in any significative number. To me anything that had been designed for automatic fire from a not overly heavy rifle is below 1700 foot pounds.
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  22. The price point didn't matter at all in the P7 not having been selected in the XM9 program. The P7A13 didn't even reach the cost comparison phase of the trial. It was eliminated because it fared atrociously in the reliability tests.
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  23.  @flightlesschicken7769  Another childish attempt to difert form the subject. Again, I said: ".30 carbine can be fired in a pure blowback gun of acceptable weight." If you assumed it was a full auto gun it was your fault not mine. Again there are other systems than the weight of the bolt to slow down the fire rate of a gun if needed. You didn't provide any source. Also you shown that "you clearly don't understand physics" since, contrary to what you considered a physical necessity, the Winchester 1907 rifle (amply used in WWI) that was, hear hear, a pure blowback rifle and used the .351 Winchester Self Loading cartridge that is, hear hear, a SUBSTANTIALLY MORE POWERFUL ROUND than the .30 carbine (1900joule vs. 1300joule of energy at the muzzle) was slightly lighter than a M3 Grease Gun (despite being a fully stocked rifle) and substantially lighter (900g less) than the Thompson M1A1, two SMGs in .45 ACP. Besides, the Winchester 1907 rifle had been modified by the French to fire in full auto in WWI. It fired at perfectly reasonable 600-700 RPM. Had you known more of the subject before typing you would have known that many versions of the Thompson had been made, from 600 to 1500 RPM. the M1A1 fired at perfectly reasonable 600-700 RPM (what an "absurdly large firerate"!). I can explain you how it's possible for the automatised Winchester 1907 and the Tommy gun to have the same fire rate despite the comparatively lighter bolt of the Winchester 1907 ("comparatively" means that it was lighter in respect to the power of the cartridge) if you want to understand a little physics for a change.
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  24. Actually Italian Carabinieri adopted the M1. The gas system is clearly similar, while receiver and bolt are completely different.
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  25. They simply wanted the 1911 to stay relevant in the competition, so they decided to use momentum (mass for speed) instead of energy (mass for the square of speed). The heavier .45 ACP projectiles have higher momentum than standard 9mm Luger, and even .38 Super. You need to reach the energy level of a .357 Magnum to have almost the same momentum of a .45 ACP in a 9mm.
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  26.  @zoiders  By WWII water cooled MGs were obsolete. The Vickers the British Army used in WWII were simply relics of WWI, and had been used for no other reason than because they were there. That's the reality. The operating mechamism of the Vickers is complex, due to the abovementioned reason. The fact that you like it doesn't change reality. Of all the operating mechanisms of WWI HMGs, only one was so simple that it could be scaled down to pistol dimensions. Guess which one.
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  27. Two 25 round magazines. 50 rounds in total. The MG42 had 1200 rpm fire rate and a 50 rounds drum magazine that took an eternity to replace. Was it Italian?
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  28.  @antonw-uw4ov  It never became prevalent. Also because there's no price advantage over an high quality semiauto, like a Benelli Argo for example. Other than inventing inexistent laws you proved another to not even be able to read.
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  29.  @antonw-uw4ov  And who cares who you trust or not? You spend your time inventing inexistent laws and talking about thing out of your reach. People like you only trusts magicians and gurus.
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  30.  @antonw-uw4ov  You do want personal infos in a comment section on the net?
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  31.  @antonw-uw4ov  It's simply silly to pretend to have personal informations about someone in a comment section on the net. I don't care about your age, your occupation, your sex, your political views, or if you are a human being or a talking dog. I only care about the topic.
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  32.  @antonw-uw4ov  So you are a French and own a gun? No, because you are reading a wikipedia page. So You are pretending that your pretended gun ownership modified your brain so that now you are better than others at reading wikipedia pages about laws of places you don't know? That's why I'm not answering to your requests about my personal infos. Because what you pretend to get from yours is funny enough. First of all, I have to remind you that, to you, the purchase of the Benelli instead of an AR15 was due to different regulations for the two rifles. My reply was that the Benelli and the AR15 were purchased AT THE SAME CONDITIONS. Now you are stating that in France "both an ar15 and benelli mr1 is in category B, which means..." ...that they are purchased AT THE SAME CONDITIONS. And that already invalidates your entire argument. Then, again, your statement: "in most countries in Europe you do have to belong to a sport shooting club to own a military style semi auto, and the clubs generally require you to compete regularly to get a membership and to keep it". My reply: "a licence for sporting purposes is a licence that allow you to buy and own the rifle, and to bring it to a range WHEN AND IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT. Nobody forces you to attend a range. YOU CAN SIMPLY KEEP THE RIFLE IN YOUR CLOSET IF YOU WANT." In France, to have an autorization for "tir spotif" the shooter must be older than 18 (12 if he's really a competitive shooter), have attended at least 3 shooting sessions with an instructor, have a medical certificate and a licence of the "Fédération française de tir" (€60,00/year for an adult) . The shooter then receives a 5-year authorization to purchase and own Category B firearms. This autorization allow him to buy and own the rifle, and to bring it to a range WHEN AND IF HE WANTS TO DO THAT. Nobody forces him to attend a range. HE CAN SIMPLY KEEP THE RIFLE IN HIS CLOSET IF HE WANT. Notice that, if the shooter really competes, the required age is only of 12. In Czech Republic there is a theoretical and practial exam to obtain a licence for that matter but, once you have it, nobody forces you to attend a range. YOU CAN SIMPLY KEEP THE RIFLE IN YOUR CLOSET IF YOU WANT. etc. etc.
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  33. It's stripped by the top of the bolt. The fin is an additional safety. It prevents the strip to be pushed in too energically by the loader.
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  34. Effectiveness of shaped charges depends on diameter of the charge itself. A sub 11mm shaped charge (because the charge has to be contained) is not gonna do anything that a AP ammo doesn't do simpler and better.
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  35. This is the first weapon officially designed "pistola mitragliatrice" (the same than the German "machinepistol").
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  36. Generally yes. Without oil there is the risk of case separation, due to the harsh extraction, but it doesn't happen for sure, or immediately, and it's known that some gunner ceased to use oil at all. Generally, brass cases worked fine without oil. Steel cases, made during the war due to material shortages, were more problematic.
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  37. .25 Remington and .30 Remington were even better, since they were rimless. What lacked was a thechnology to make an AR reliable in thrench warfare. The same reason semiautos failed in WWI.
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  38. 1957 happened before 1961.
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  39. As SIG already experimented, trying to make the SIG 530 roller delayed, to make a delayed blowback 5.56X45 is really difficult. There's a too close tolerance between not enough delay and too much delay. To have reliable extracion without case separation the FAMAS F1 had to use steel cased ammos. Later they managed to tune it better, and the FAMAS G2 could fire any kind of ammo.
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  40.  @LunaDevaKitty  In WWI they used it, since the LMGs and HMGs the French gave them were in 8mm Lebel. They used .303 British too, since the rifles the US troops used the most in WWI were British-provided Lee-Enfields.
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  41. All the known pictures when the particular can be seen, all the surviving samples, and even some rusted sample found with a metal detector, show the safety still in place.
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  42.  @yarborough137  I looked at them. The Vikers is way more complicate than this, like ANY canvas belt fed MG (a cartridge has to be extracted from the canvas belt backward, then rised, or lowered, out of the way of the belt, then pushed into the chamber). Infact the Hotchkiss, the only WWI MG simpler than this, was not belt fed. The MG42 is not a WWI MG, it had been introduced during WWII. But do not think it's so much simpler than this. Only the bolt of the MG42 is made of 19 parts.
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  43. Sometimes I wonder what the viewers actually see when they watch theese clips. It's acutally a lot easier to strip field this than a BAR. The bolt of this gun is made of 4 parts in total. The one of an MG34 is made of 28 parts.
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  44. We tend to think of weapons as we seen them in movies, where everything works fine, but at that time it was a REAL issue to build magazines so cheap to be discarded on the field and so consistently built to not have feeding issues. Bren and BAR were plagued by jammings caused by badly manufactured magazines, and those were built in countries that had not raw material shortages. This gun, eliminated feeding issues in exchange of a little more time required to load it.
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  45.  @jeffreytam7684  It seems weird. ;) Really that's the simplest way a strip fed MG can work. The same bolt that pushes the cartridge in the chamber, pulls the spent case back in the tray, so avoiding to have to open another window in the receiver to eject the spent cases, or to enlarge that of the spent strip to eject the brass too (so risking to jam the gun in ejection, due to the interference between the strip and the brass). All the other considerations often repeated (recovering the brass, keeping the position tidy...) were completely secondary. Simplicity was the main concern. Infact the "Tactical & Technical Trend" the magazine of the US Intelligence during WWII, praised the simplicity and reliability of the Breda 37 (the strip-fed 8mm HMG. The gas-actuated 8mm, 20mm and 37mm Breda HMGs and automatic cannons were scaled up versions of the same design).
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  46.  @Danimark_92  Actually there were several manufacturers in Brescia that made some batch of Carcano rifles at some point: the Brescia state arsenal (the ONLY rifles that are marked "Brescia"), "Lorenzotti Brescia", "Mida Brescia", "FNA Brescia" (those three are actually the same that changed name several times), "Napoleone e Vittorio Castelli Brescia" and "Metallurgica Bresciana Tampini", anyone with a different stamping, because a stamping indicates a unique manufacturer.
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  47. Because 7.35 barrel landings have the same diameter of 6.5 barrel grooves. So, with 7.35, they could have reused millions of worn-out 6.5 long rifles barrels simply shortening and reboring them. Remaining with 6.5 would have required brand new barrels, so it would have been more expensive.
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  48. Breda 37, Breda 38, Breda 20/65, Scotti 20/77...
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  49. Franchi made a .30 Carbine weapon in competition with this one (the FL-58) and then a bigger version in 7.62 Nato (the LF-59).
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  50. It's the MAB 38/49, that's not even the last model to be manufactured (it will be the 38/57, adopted by the Carabinieri).
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