Comments by "" (@neutronalchemist3241) on "Forgotten Weapons" channel.

  1.  @TrangleC To have a quick exchange barrel is what determines the practical rate of fire of a MG. To spend three seconds in reloading the weapon instead of two doesn't change it. There is no way to quickly fire 600 rounds with a FG-42, like there wasn't with the BAR.
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  2.  @TrangleC  Yeah. That's the difference. The difference is between extracting the old magazine, inserting the new one, and opening the magazine, inserting the clip, closing the magazine. Many people, like you, think everything they are not used to is a big issue. In reality the time spent in reloading has very little importance. Is a problem only for harmchair "experts". IE the wartime instructions on the use of the BREN provided a practical ROF of one magazine a minute. It was contemplated an "exceptional" ROF of four magazines a minute, warning that, at that rof, the barrel had to be changed after 10 magazines (so two minutes and half of fire), and the entire squad had only 20 magazines available (so 5 minutes. Battles tend to last a little more). A second more in reloading counts for nothing.
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  3. The MG34's barrel rattles as well, but both guns were considered to be very accurate. The barrel rattles only until a round is fired. Once fired, the expansion of the case tighten the action, and the barrel acts like a free floating barrel.
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  4. This rifle is the only Scotti action that for some reason required lubing (even if in the manual is said that wetting the cartridges with water worked too) Scotti used the same basic action for any caliber up to 37mm AA guns. The Scotti LMG and auto rifles in 6.5 Carcano didn't required lubing. Probably, in the Model X, it had something to do with using the Carcano en-block clips, that weren't made for auto fire. This is the Scotti Automatic rifle (only experimental) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=129fvBDfxL4 This is the Scotti LMG (This one had been used in Jugoslavia) https://i.pinimg.com/736x/45/63/b7/4563b7e40ee5908e63c697cd04c35af3.jpg
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  5. Actually it had been an higly successful weapon. The weapon was developed for the ground role. IT HAD NEVER BEEN INTENDED TO BE AN AIRCRAFT GUN. Less than four-hundred samples of more than 14.000 built saw limited use on aircrafts (at that time the Air Corp was a branch of the Army) waiting for the model to be in full scale production first than distributing it to the troops. It was supposed to be used with a shield, and with it it was plenty stable. https://modernfirearms.net/userfiles/images/smg/smg127/villar-perosa_1915_3.jpg That hole sight was literally the only hole in the shield. The weapon was designed to be a point weapon. Like a long range shotgun. Put it to surveil obligatory passages (alpine trails, openings in the barbed wire) and, when an enemy shows up, throw a short burst in his direction. With half a dozen 9mm Glisenti bullets in his body, he’ll think better. The MG-42 for example, with its 1200rpm ROF was designed with this job in mind. Not fire continuosly, but fire when you actually see the enemy. Given the charateristics of the two warfares, it was more suited the Villar Perosa to WWI (when you almost always had some obligatory passage to surveil) than the MG-42 to WWII. The weapon had been higly successful in the attack role too. So much that the Austrians copied it, double barrel, bipod and all. At the end of the conflict a total of 14.564 MGs had been produced (so, more than 29000 barrels, VS only about 5000 MP18), and 836 millions of 9mm Glisenti rounds for them. Mind this. THERE WAS NOTHING BETTER AROUND. When the guy with the Villar Perosa, after having thrown a couple of offensive grenades into the enemy trench to stun the enemies, came over the edge with the SMG in his hands to clear it, he didn’t find the guy with the MP18 waiting for him. Because there was not any MP18, or anything similar. There were only bolt action rifles and showels. What he had in his hands was incredibly better for that role than anything the enemy had. After having adopted the Villar Perosa, the Italians took almos three years to field the the MAB18 (that were nothing more than a single Villar Perosa barrel mounted on a Moschetto TS stock) not because the Villar Perosa was unsatisfactory, but because it was so satisfactory that none felt the urge to modify it.
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  6. You aim first. Then fire. Then there are a dozen holes where you aimed. It was like a long range shotgun.
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  7. The base diametre of the 7.35 is the same of the .276 Pedersen, so it means 10 rounds instead of 8 in a M1 clip, so 25% more rounds in the same space.
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  8. Actually this is a simple action even by modern standards. In WWI, only the Hotchkiss was simpler than this.
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  9. Actually the 7.35 bullet has a diameter of .298. Not that the Finns cared. They used metrics.
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  10.  @grayeaglej  It will be enough to have two flat bars passing around the magazine instead one passing under it. Think of how the trigger bars of a modern semiauto pass around its magazine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7ri33LDHZk
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  11. Mussolini loved only himself.
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  12.  @doraran5158  Mussolini was not "the head" of the Socialist party. He was not even a high executive. He was the director of a socialist newspaper.
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  13.  @doraran5158  You wrote: "Mussolini was the former head of the Italian Socialist Party". "The head" means the most important leader. The one in command. He was not. He countred for something but was not "the head" by any means. When he adopted an interventionist position for Italy in WWI, he was kicked out of the party. The political rant is not of my interest, sorry.
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  14.  @doraran5158  Fact is that your clutching at straws is really funny. Simply you wrote: "Mussolini was the former head of the Italian Socialist Party". Not "one leader", "one important figure" or equivalent expressions but "THE HEAD". Simply he wasn't. He was the director of a Socialist journal that was kicked out of the Socialist party as soon as he adopted an interventionist position for Italy in WWI. The study of history is based on correct informations. One can accept the information and thank for it, or childshly clutching at straws because he doesn't want to admit he was wrong. The rest of your message is just unnecessary piling of well known crap to avoid the point.
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  15.  @doraran5158  I'm someone that gave you an information. You could thank for it, or even ignore it. You preferred to childishly try to demonstrate that you were not wrong in saying "Mussolini was the former head of the Italian Socialist Party" (he was not. He was the director of a socialist newspaper that was kicked out of the Socialist party as soon as he adopted an interventionist position for Italy in WWI). Now, obviously you resort to insults, in the futile hope that they give more strenght to your flawed position. The head of a newspaper is the head of a newspaper, not the head of a party. It's really funny you prefer to look like someone unable to discern tne difference instead of admitting of having been wrong.
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  16. An elegant weapon, for a more civilized age...
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  17. All the pins holding the components of the trigger assembly are simple rivets. If you want to dismantle it, you have to de-rivet and then re-rivet it.
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  18. More a weak magazine spring. You need spring tension to keep the rounds in place in a downward looking magazine.
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  19. Spring strenght has practically no impact on opening time.
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  20. Actually the Italians sold the rifles and ammos dirt cheap, with a 30 years payment. It was a masked gift.
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  21. Yeah. Considered how different was the Glock to the pistols that dominated the marked in the '80s (DA/SA wondernines) it's success seems to have come "against all odds". Arguably, had he been a small American manufacturer, he would have failed. The fact of having been Austrian. Already a supplier of the Austrian Army, even if not of handguns (so someone that could be trusted), and to have finally won the bid for the Austrian Army and Police service handgun, gave him the "depth of field" to face the civilian market with a solid base. Also the timing had been right, since that competition took place in the early '80s (before the US XM9 program) when even the best among the wondernines, introduced in the mid '70s, still had defects to fix.
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  22. It's a bit easier than a M1 Carbine.
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  23. @Quackers O'Brian Infact. this, like the SPAS-12, or the Benelli M3, is really a semiauto shotgun with a secondary pump action mode that you can use when you really have to shoot special light loads.
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  24. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SwNqvUZSW8&t=12s 3D working
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  25. The Allies deemed the Breda 37, Breda 38 and Breda 20/65 machineguns to be "excellent".
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  26.  @Tom-zc9gs  The Breda 37 extraction is not complex at all. It's the simplest way a tray-fed MG can work. The same bolt that pushes the cartridge into the chamber, pulls it back in the tray. That way there's no a further ejection window. the same Allied reports praised the simplicity and ease of field stripping the gun. The "special tool" is a loader, exactly like a belt loader. The only difference is that it's WAY faster than any belt loader. To load the trays was a backline activity. Only loaded trays, like only loaded belts, were supposed to reach the first line. To think that the Italian soldiers loaded the trays under fire is like believing that German soldiers loaded the MG42 belts under fire.
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  27.  @hendriktonisson2915  The Breda 37 extraction is the simplest way a tray-fed MG can work. The same bolt that pushes the cartridge into the chamber, pulls it back in the tray. That way there's no a further ejection window. The same Allied reports praised the simplicity and ease of field stripping the gun. The "special tool" is a loader, exactly like a belt loader. The only difference is that the one of the Breda is WAY faster than any belt loader. To load the trays was a backline activity anyway. Only loaded trays, like only loaded belts, were supposed to reach the first line. To think that the Italian soldiers loaded the trays under fire is like believing that German soldiers loaded the MG42 belts under fire.
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  28. ​ @hendriktonisson2915  "Excellent" is the word used in Allied reports "From the following report, prepared at the Aberdeen Proving Ground, it appears to be an excellent gun". (see the Tactical and Technical Trend, the magazine of the US Intelligence, No. 23, April 22, 1943 "ITALIAN 8-MM BREDA MEDIUM MACHINE GUN, MODEL 37"). I prefer to rely to original wartime reports than modern armchair impressions. As already said, to load the trays, like to load the belts, was a backline activity. Only loaded trays, like only loaded belts, were supposed to reach the first line. A broken loader (but what's the possibility for a loader to break? It's so remote to be immaterial in choosing a gun) could be fixed, and obviously there were other loaders around. However, since the tray has a clear stop to mark the position of the cartridges and, being rigid, can be placed on the ground or on a box during the operation, I beg to differ on what was easier to load by hand.
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  29. ​ @Tom-zc9gs  As already said, I prefer to rely on the original wartime reports of those that had to daily fight the weapon and had extensively tested it, comparing with their own, than modern armchair impressions of those that had seen it firing once in a clip. "Machine carbine" is what the MP44 was. it's not like since the term "assault rife" imposed itself later, then who used "machine carbine" didn't understand the weapon. Between the MP44 and the M2 Carbine (select fire M1, it's not like at Aberdeen didn't know them) I would have selected the M2. The Mp44 WAS heavy (it was heavier than a FAL or an M14. 1.2kg heavier than an AK47 unloaded. 2.1kg heavier than a M2 carbine, almost double its weight) in exchange of what? The fact that it's concepts (but not the gun) imposed themself after the war didn't mean it was a superior weapon at the time. Also, the fact that the Tactical and Technical Trends criticised a good weapon, it's not a proof that they tended to praise bad weapons. Quite the contrary infact. There's an obvious bias in favour of what one knows. The weapons of the enemy had to pass that bias to be considered good. The Breda 37 had been considered exceptional DESPITE the bias, not thanks to it. The hindsight of successive weapon designs and industrial development has nothing to do with wartime weapons and conditions. Its misleading and has to be left out. A weapon doesn't become good in WWII because it's development had been good in Korea. The supposed problems of the Italian army have nothing to do with the quality of the Breda 37. It was an MG, not an army. Nor those that used it daily nor those that tested it as a weapon of the enemy noticed this supposed unreliability nor this "constant necessity of maintenance", nor those problematic features. The weapon had always been deemed to be very reliable and simple to mantain.
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  30.  @Tom-zc9gs  Those that used daily it used it in the sands of Egypt and the snow of Russia, and deemed it to be very reliable. None noticed this supposed "lot of work to maintain on the field of battle" or that "Other MGs had far more reliability in the same conditions". It seems like something you decided by yourself. Canvas belts had been dropped as well, aren't they? One can invent supposed "general problems" of belts without taking in consideration the weapon he'stalking about at will. Judge them without having ever touched one, decide they are easy to damage... talking of the strips being "hard to keep clean and running" in comparison with belts is really funny anyway. 500m? Please. 90% of rifle exchanges in WWII had been fought at less than 100m, and 99% at less than 300m. So what's the use of doubling the weight for something that's useful in maybe 1% of the cases? And ist's not like the .30 carbine is harmless over 300m. Even a 9mm Para can still pass completely through a human body at 500m. Between the MP44 and the M2 Carbine (select fire M1, it's not like at Aberdeen didn't know them) I would have selected the M2. The Mp44 WAS heavy (it was heavier than a FAL or an M14. 1.2kg heavier than an AK47 unloaded. 2.1kg heavier than a M2 carbine, almost double its weight) in exchange of what? The fact that it's concepts (but not the gun) imposed themself after the war didn't mean it was a superior weapon at the time. the "tons of improvements that could be made" had not been made yet, it was the Mp44 that had to be judged, not "tons of possible improvements". Still in 1958 the contender of the AR15 was the Winchester Light Weight Military Rifle, a classic wooden-stocked forged-receiver rifle (and it could have won, the testers listed many advantages over the AR15) and, guess what? Both contenders had weights comparable to that of the M2, not that of the Mp44. A rifle really similar to the M2 Carbine was still a contender, an Mp44 would not have even been considered. The Mini14 is still appreciated now, and it's largely the same rifle, What modern weapon is really similar to the Mp44 as the Mini14 is similar to the M2?
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  31. The weapon was developed for the ground role. IT HAD NEVER BEEN INTENDED TO BE AN AIRCRAFT GUN. Less than four-hundred samples of more than 14.000 built saw limited use on aircrafts (at that time the Air Corp was a branch of the Army) waiting for the model to be in full scale production first than distributing it to the troops. It was supposed to be used with a shield, and with it it was plenty stable. https://modernfirearms.net/userfiles/images/smg/smg127/villar-perosa_1915_3.jpg That hole sight was literally the only hole in the shield. The weapon was designed to be a point weapon. Like a long range shotgun. Put it to surveil obligatory passages (alpine trails, openings in the barbed wire) and, when an enemy shows up, throw a short burst in his direction. With half a dozen 9mm Glisenti bullets in his body, he’ll think better. The early samples had the rotating collar magazine catch. It was soon changed to the rock-and-lock one.
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  32. People clean 8 times a day belt-fed MGs in Iraq?
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  33.  @buckfutter99  Then better to have this than any other semiauto-auto weapon of the time. The field strip of this, to clean the parts that need cleaning and inspect the ones that are most likely to need to be replaced, is done in seconds and without any tool, that was not a given at the time. Not only, but the number of parts is fairly low.
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  34. Not really. 7.35 Carcano, from a 17" barrel (carbine TS) launches a 128 grain bullet at 2410 fps for 1650 foot/pounds of energy. .300 BLK, from a 16" barrel, 125 grain bullet, 2157-2200 fps, 1313-1343 foot/pounds. 7.35 Carcano is in the same ballpark of .30-30, or .30 Remington, or 6.8 SPC.
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  35. It's continuous.
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  36.  @zachdew9gaming985  IS a bad thing. US Army weapons are always locally manufactured. Is a procurement of every contract. What they were refusing were foreign DESIGNS, and that led to subpar designs like the M14 and M60 and POS like the M73/219 being adopted.
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  37. The US B-team (the one that serviced ONE BAR in WWII) was composed of three men as well. Gunner, assistant gunner, ammo bearer. That was the norm for any automatic weapon in WWII and later.
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  38. The Carcano was 6.5mm, and you don't measure the width of the hole in a body. Actually is not possible to forensically determine if a person had been shot by a 9mm or a .45 if you don't find the bullet.
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  39.  @charleswesley9907  The entry hole in the skull had never been measured. Only the external wound. It was of "6X15mm". Obviously they didn't measure the tenth of mm. http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0283a.htm
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  40.  @charleswesley9907  I posted the extract from the autopsy. There was a 6x15mm (it's obvious that the tenth of mm had not been taken into account) wound on his skin. that doesn't say anything on the bore of the bullet.
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  41. That's exactly why reliable all stainless steel semiautos had not been made until the '80s.
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  42. False. The first weapon that failed was the Tommy gun of Walter Audisio (good example of US MPs quality), the second was the Beretta 1934 pistol of Lampredi, and the one that worked was a French MAS36, of Moretti.
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  43.  @slavsupreme5129  Another MMG pretending to be a LMG.
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  44. ​ @hailexiao2770  The French FM 24/29 was a top-fed BAR. It didn't have a quick exchange barrel tough. With the one of the FN Model D it would have been a really good LMG. On par with the ZB vz. 26 However, to use 40 round magazines in WWII meant to be in search of problems. Already the 30 rounds one of the BREN were problematic (and not only for the rimmed cartridges) and infact the top-fed ZB vz.26, FM 24/29, Breda 38 and Scotti LMG used 25 rounds magazines.
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  45. Especially in late 19th - early 20th century, many weapon designs that make one think "what were they thinking?" had been made to circumvent a patent. Today you can do practically all that you want. The patent for that solution expired decades ago.
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  46. Yes. the 91/24 tend to keyhole, but they were intended to be stopgap weapons assigned to rear echelon troops, like the ones that in WWI were armed with converted Vetterli rifles.
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  47. "Falcon" is simply the semiauto model without the forward handle and folding stock (the one Ian is showing), while "Spectre" refers to the entire family.
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  48. It seems to be a neat design, but its machining seems to be well worth of a squad LMG more than an infantry rifle. Breda had the tendency to overmachine its designs, but the Breda PG you already reviewed probably required a lot less tooling work to do the same job + the burst.
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  49. This safety serves PRECISELY to react quickly. You don't need a safety when a round is not chambered and, when you chamber a round, you are supposed to want to fire it, so the safety automatically disengages. If you don't want to fire it, THEN you can engage the safety AFTER having put a round in the chamber.
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  50. Another advantage is that, despite the apparently complicate action, the gun is easy to manufacture. The frame is stamped, and almost all the milled parts have simple straight cuts.
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