Comments by "" (@neutronalchemist3241) on "Forgotten Weapons"
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Sorry, but the Army didn't want ANYTNING else than the M9.
The XM10 trials had nothing to do with slide separation, It was the Congress forcing the Army to redo the test to appease S&W, since, reading the XM9 requirements to the letter, it shouldn't have been eliminated after the life expectancy test, as it did. That's because, thus performing worse than both Beretta and SIG, it was still above the minimum required (the S&W had been eliminated after one of the three pistols tested cracked a frame before having fired 5000 rounds, but the requirement was for a life expectancy of over 5000 rounds ON AVERAGE, and, on average, the life expectancy was over 5000 rounds) and so it should have passed and competed on price with Beretta and SIG.
In the end, Beretta won the XM10 trials without even competing. It refused to submit pistols for the tests, and so the Army used off-the-shelf guns.
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@oldscratch3535 It doesn't matter what, or who, you believe either, for that matter. Physics doesn't work according to your wishes.
According to Stoner, the AR action "is a true expanding gas system instead of the conventional impinging gas system". Unfortunately that's EXACTLY how the Rasheed, or the MAS 49, actions work. Thanks to gas expansion. Have you noticed how the "open gas tube" of the Rasheed, or of the MAS 49, enters INTO the bolt carrier, instead of simply resting against it's flat face? It's because, to work, EXACTLY like in the AR action, they need pressure build and gas expansion for a certain time. Not simply a supposed "kick" of the gas against the bolt carrier. So, or all of those system are direct gas impingement, or none of them is.
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The reason is that this cartridge, like the 9mm Glisenti (power-wise they are practically the same cartridge) was exactly at the limit where blowback action became impractical. More powerful and, if you wanted to use a blowback action, the pistol became heavier than a breechlock action, top heavy and less durable. Less powerful, and breechlock actions were more complicate than blowbacks without advantages, but, exactly at this level, advantages and disadvantages of the two actions were even. Infact the 9mm glisenti started as a cartridge for the breechlock Glisenti 1910, and was then used in the blowback Beretta 1915 and 1922. The 9mm Ultra was developed to be used in a blowback (the Walther PP), but then the Germans decided that the PP frame was no up to the task (infact the Beretta in 9mm Glisenti had a buffer spring to avoid the frame to take a too hard beating) and developed a breechlock action for it.
But, if you have to use a breechlock, you might as well use a 9mm Parabellum.
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