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Mind also that, for tribesmen, long campaigns were costly. Winter was coming and the warriors besieging the Romans were not preparing for it.
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It's actually the importance of Teutoburg that had been greatly exagerated by German nationalists a pair of millennia later. Tiberius had been stopped while he was steamrolling through Germania because all Augustus cared was the safety of the limes. Germanicus fought a private war for personal promotion. The Empire didn't care that much about Germania.
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The Romans were more like: "I hope you like your gods, because you are about to know them!"
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@ciarandolan7695 Minor niusances infact. Territories not worth to conquer. The barbarians inhabiting them caused some problems at decades distance, and were beaten when they did.
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@kodor1146 Already Augustus gave up with the idea of conquering Germania, he only cared about the limes being safe, and Tiberius didn't conquer anything in his 20 years of reign. According to the contemporaries, thus having been one of the most efficient generals Rome ever had, as an Emperor he didn't seek conquests at all and preferred diplomacy. Had he wanted to conquer Germania, he would have done it himself, using the same tactics he used in Pannonia and had started to use in Germania before being recalled. His conquests were as inevitable as the continental drift. But he treated Germania as Germanicus' private playground, where the young general was even using legions he payed himself.
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Germanicus was leading a campaing for personal promotion. He wanted victories. Nothing else. It's difficult to grasp it now, since we know how it ended, but for the Romans, Until near the end of the western empire, Germania was a minor affair. Still Julian, after having beaten the Alamanni at Strasbourg, in 357, focused on the conquest of Mesopotamia. Until Adrianople (378), the Germanics were people annoying at times, but that could be dealed with without much effort.
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@ciarandolan7695 That's a 21st century point of view. In the first four centuries there wasn't any generational war going on. There weren't the "Germanics". That was an umbrella term that the Romans invented for those that lived east of the Rhine, but it didn't exist a Germanic word to indicate the Germanics. There were the Alemanni, there were the Bructeri, there were the Alani, there were the Marcomanni and so on. Many of them were allied of the Romans, even ruled by client kings. Once every twenty or thirty years, one of those tribes raided some territory into the limes (often because they had been expelled out of their own territory by another tribe). Four or five legions were sent, and the invaders were destroyed or repulsed beyond the limes (where they often starved to death, because they no more had a territory east of the Rhine). The situation on the eastern border seemed MUCH more serious, because there were organised enemies there, and four or five legions may not be sufficient to solve the situation. Western Empire fell due to internal problems, not due to hordes of invincible invaders. Still Emperor Majorian, in three years from 458 to 461, defeated the Burgundians, the Visigoths and the Suevi, reconquering most of Gallia and Hispania, and practically bringing back the Empire to the borders it had under Augustus.
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@ciarandolan7695 Simply a warband or a desperate tribe trying to enter the limes every 20 or 30 years, that could be dealed with four or five legions, was not considered a threat.
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@mirrownak5772 It was actually Tiberius that had the best chances. He was steamrolling through Germania with his usual style, "slow and inevitable as the continental drift" when he had been recalled by Augustus. Germanicus was mainly leading a private campaign for personal promotion.
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Rome abandoned the idea of conquering Germania when Augustus recalled Tiberius while he was steamrolling through it. Germanicus led a campaign for personal promotion. He needed victories, not to conquer anything. Tiberius recalled him when he retained he had promoted himself enough.
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@ciarandolan7695 If I keep on repeating the same thing is because a "generational war" between Romans and Germanics is a modern point of view that arised looking at how the western Empire ended. It was not how contemporaries, romans and Germanics saw that. Unrelated or scarcely related warbands that tried to pass the limes at 20-30 years distance and could be dealt with limited use of troops was not a "war". Nor the 3rd century crisis was due to any state of war with Germania. The very same existence of the "Gallic Roman Empire" from 260 to 274 AD, when a series of Roman military leaders and aristocrats declared themselves emperors and took control of Gaul and adjacent provinces, meant that they felt the limes with Germania to be safe. Even controlling a limited territory with limited resources in respect to the whole Empire, they didn't fear the Germanics.
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