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Comments by "" (@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714) on "The Aesthetic City" channel.
And this is a true grass roots movement. We commoners are sick and tired or architects in their ivory towers refusing to do their duty and design beautiful buildings for the public.
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I wonder how long before people realize that maybe we shouldnt just preserve the old town, maybe we should expand it.
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@kennj321 Indeed. Glass non euclidian structures for the public, nice cozy old fashioned architecture for themselves.
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If I where king of Latvija I would restrict all urban residential contruction to have to be done in traditional baltic, gothic, jugendstyle, baroq or neo classical. Beauty is very important to me and also keeps people sane. Cities are home to 60% of the population and thus they should feel homey.
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@victorluke1813 Yes the lack of beauty is present in more than architecture but this is an architecture video. I mean I learned english to understand american cartoons yet the previous animations Ive watched are Oregairu and Akame ga Kill. Why? Because animegirls are prity beyond comparison to what the californians are putting out these days.
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@nabinbhusal7014 Absolutely not! Big trees are much more beautiful than small ones and give nice shade in the hot summers.
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@_blank-_ Dont misuse the word elite. Elite means the best. Not all overlords are better than their subjects.
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@mrglasses8953 Go live in a rural area where nobody has to see it.
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@nucks2233 "They also want beautiful buildings for the most part." No they dont. Like modern schooled artists their sense of beauty is upside down. People have a better sense of beautiful architecture before they enter university to study architecture. Only artists that are self taught and self employed pain what the common people want to see. "It's the builders" I literally moved to building roads because I refuse to engeneer bad buildings. "buyers who are too cheap to care." So the government must mandate it. "It's always the bottom line with them." Which is why you shouldnt let money run your society.
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@nucks2233 "The architects just do what they're told by the bosses" Then I will look down on them and say that they make bad stuff. Again I refused to make bad buildings and just quit.
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@yohahn2000 Understand this, a moral and upstanding citizen when payed to do bad things would refuse. Any artist worth his salt told to make something ugly will refuse, and if hes fired for it he will spit in the bad guys face and say: "you cant fire me I quit." Have pride! - the virtue on which western civilization is based. If everyone would refuse the corruptors contract he would be powerless. "I was just following orders" - has never once worked to get anyone forgiven for their crimes. You are responsible for your own dam actions and when you do bad things after being ordered to you share just as much blame as your master. "Architects are professionals who design for life safety and building codes and aesthetics. If the client's aesthetics don't align with yours, then blame the people who gave the go ahead and paid for it." I dont have the money with which to compete with our overlords. I have only the strength of my character and the strength of my own arms. You will find that design unsafe if I bomb that building for being ugly... "If you want to influence design, then put in the zoning regulations to impose design." I would if I had the power. Infact given godlike powers (so my might can not be matched) I would start handing out prison sentences to the corrupt architects/designers/polititans/profesors/investors/ ... that have made cities so ugly.
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@mrglasses8953 "Construction is not allowed in green belt." Latvija has no such thing anywhere. "And why assume all modernist buildings are ugly?" Im not assuming. I have eyes and judgement, Ive seen them and judged them. "What about say Fallingwater or the Kaufmann Desert house?" Ugly and ugly. The only city with modern achitecture Id ever want to live in is Planeptune, but thats not because of the architecture but rather because its a literal utopia where the governments top priority is keeping the people entertained as they just dont have any problems.
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@_blank-_ Aristocricy is also a good thing. I venerate norbility. We live in a kekistorcatic system where those who are incharge are the worst scum of the earth.
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@MoleRat94 No! If the poor ecconomies of the middle ages could afford them, modern industrial societies can sure as hell afford them.
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@Moosemoose1 Exactly.
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I think all designs should be judged on their own (with a completely white background), all plants and animals removed (as humans naturally like nature and thus like the nature not the building being judged).
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@adamhernes1093 "Talk to our clients." Im a civil engeener. "The developers." Capitalist filth that should be relieved of any power. "They won't pay for your beautiful architecture." Then they should have no building. Boycot them. Beautiful building or not building should be their options. "It's too expensive and too long to build. If done in traditional way." Dont do it the traditional way. Its the outcome that matters. "Buildings must me destengushable because they're a record of history." No, we should at core use the same style for all of Eternity. "You still can make modern architecture fit the place." No you cant. "It must follow human scale and be respectful to place and people." Only traditional architecture is respectful of place and people. "This is the problem. Architecture is highly commercialised." Hence the capitalists need to be sidelined. "Planners can control that. It's up to them to put regulations that will bring proper scale, finish, landscape and small architecture to their cities." Who are the planners if not people, in a democractic country what is the government if not people? Thus it is up to the people do demand good architecture. "It can be modern and beautiful." No it cant. "This what you dislike is Architecture that is commercially viable." Architecture that has been used for millenium is commercially viable. "And at the end we are back to money and developers." Money is irrelevent once you crush the capitalists. "Do you have a housing crisis with unaffordable Hauses in Nordic countries as well?" No. "Well the classical architecture built with traditional methods will make the problem worse." Immigration will make that problem worse.
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@markholland7322 Clearly you dont know your job as youre describing my job. We engeneers crunch numbers to make sure buildings are safe and recource efficient. Architects are artists that must make the building beautiful. If you wont make it beautiful we dont need you, we engeneers can make a big box ourselves, and the non euclidian shapes you often force uppon us are far from efficient. If you think Im commoner populist conservative you are sorely mistaken. I am infact an elite elitist who believes in building an utopia. And if you dont understand why there are cuts uppon cuts uppon cuts you clearly dont understand the economy. Economic realities are mercyless, low birth rate and aging population will crush everything and everyone. I myself try to avoyd as many taxes as possible since I know Ill never get a pension and pensions to the current old are already 40% of the budget. (and a good chunk is also pocketed by the corrupt government officers)
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@joaocosta3374 As a civil engeneer Ive met a lot of architects and yea they dont oppose it. Its all about who gets to be an architect, when in university when told you either have to make something with the sickness of modernity or be failed most will quit, so few have the ability to infiltrate a system they dont like so its mainly the ones who comply with the existing system that are architects.
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@qwertya27 1. From my point of view if youre not an engeneer or construction worker youre an architect. 2. THEY ARE VERY UGLY. "They are just placed wrong!" Yea, in existance, when they should be religated to distopian fiction. "It should not be one-sided, the architecture should be diverse." No, it must be uniform and beautiful. "They modern buildings can and should exist" Not in my country. "they just should not kill the old part of the city." In existing they also prevent the tried and tested beauty from spreading. "They should be in different places, for different people." They shouldnt exist, 100% of the city must be beauitiful, if you disagree with something as basic as what is beautiful get out of my country.
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@nabinbhusal7014 "Yes, but people like variety in general." Which is why I dictate multiple styles rather than saying all buildings have to look exactly the same. "But, my major concern is the ugly trees in big cities like berlin." Ive never been to Berlin so Ive no idea what you mean.
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@Phil9874 Who do you think the clients are? Large companies and governments who have put bad architect incharge of making request for private firms to contrust buildings for them.
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@jbp122 There getting proper zoning laws is priority number one, but you can work on all things at the same time.
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@Browncheesboi Developers are architects in my speech variety.
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@qwertya27 "which buildings should be wiped out of existence because you don't like them" YT doesnt like images so have links to wiki pages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khrushchevka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zunda_Towers "and which are best." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jelgava_Palace https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Parliament_Building https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_de_Paris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_the_Blackheads_(Riga)
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@ROForeverMan I didnt build my house nor is it ugly. It was built by my ancestors according to our old (less than 200 years) traditions, just with ceramic roof tiling rather than annually or decadaly replacable thach or shindles.
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