Comments by "Widdekuu91" (@Widdekuu91) on "Why You Should Put YOUR MASK On First (My Brain Without Oxygen) - Smarter Every Day 157" video.
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Well, there's a lot of things in what you say here. It's more complicated. Here's the deal;
First off 4% of all deathrow-deaths are innocent. Many judges try and judge 'deathrow' to get liked by people and get re-elected. People love harsh sentencing if it's not on themselves and even if 4% is innocently murdered, that's a risk they are more than willing to take if they can also murder the bad ones.
Second it's a bit of an open door, but obviously 'humane' executions don't really exist, because you're taking away the ability from someone to ever feel, breathe or laugh again. Their life is just gone, they're wiped off the earth.
Third people don't wán't hem to have a painless execution. The same people that vote for the judges having "the most people on deathrow", prefer to hear stories about botched executions and electric chairs.
Apart from perhaps a family that can't rest untill a mass-rapist is killed with a syringe, most of the people find a strange comfort in knowing the criminal (or innocent convinct) has suffered. Which is also where the jail-rape-jokes come from.
If we wanted them to have a painless death, they'd get a euthanasia sleepingpill, fall asleep in a soft and warm bed and never wake up again.
But that's not what they want. They're not going to comfort convicts and there's also the reason that some of the executions are public.
When they had a stock of execution-syringes that were going to go bad, they acually tried getting their money's worth by sentencing and executing more people. Otherwise they'd have to throw the syringes away and they'd rather dispose of the convincts than the syringes.
Fourth just as an extra thing, it's been found that executions are véry, véry expensive in comparison to a lifelong imprisonment. If you murder someone, it costs everyone 10 times more money. Mainly because of all of the paperwork and the papers you need to get signed and the licences you need to get
It's 308 million per person, in California for example.
Again, pér person. And there's many executions. I can think of better things to do with the money.
The deathpenalty is not a logical response to someone (except perhaps if they've proven to be able to escape from prison easily ánd are serial-rapists and murderers with no intention to éver better their lifes) but it is an emotional one.
People want to see the criminal suffer and in pain, so they decide to "get rid of him" and preferably in the most humiliating or painful way possible, as long as it's legal. And that is worth 308 million to them, each time.
For more information, I recommend John Oliver's "Death Penalty" video.
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I refered you to John Oliver because those study-results were featured on his show as well. The episode on the Death Penalty is the one I mean.
You're saying you support the death penalty for murderers (assuming 4% is innocent, you could say that makes you 4% murderer) but you don't seem to realise how things happen in the real world.
It's not like all of those people are coldblooded murderers you see in Dexter.
Some are teenagers that have drunk-driven and have gotten the shock of their lifes after their car hit an old man and they witnessed him dying on the street.
That teenager counts as a murderer as well. He did not have bad intend, he could be a great addition to society (not to mention, he has a loving mother that is crying her eyes out) and yet, according to law, he'll have to get killed.
As I mentioned, Trump is pushing for the drug-abuse to get death-penalties as well.
People that are in money-trouble and that (are forced to) sell drugs, could end up being put down as well.
The money that'll be spend on all of those 'murderers' could have been better spend on educating people and helping the poor, so nobody has to sell drugs in order to have food on the table.
It reminds me of that Ever After qoute; If you suffer your people to be ill-educated, and their manners corrupted from infancy, and then punish them for those crimes to which their first education disposed them, what else is to be concluded, sire, but that you first make thieves and then punish them?
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That was a long story to read. Please, use comma's next time. And 'Enter'-s and dots.
I'll try to respond to your comment as best as I can, but it could happen that I make a mistake and interpret something wrong. Sorry in advance for that.
1. When I said that they're wiped off the earth, I meant that there is no 'good' thing about murdering someone. No matter what they did, you are taking a life away, they are being wiped off the earth. I was trying to explain how massive this is. Someone's life, the thing most dear to them, is being taken and purposely stopped. That's why I said; 'There is no "humane" was, they are being wiped off the earth." It is a harsh thing to do. Some people think of it as throwing away a mouldy apple, because it too, was once (part of a) living thing.
2.Killing another human being is a process, not something that you surprise them with (in jail..not in crime.) The person knows how they will die.
They will know whether they are going to be injected or on an electric chair.
You said; 'There's no humiliation, they're dead, they don't care.'
But trust me, for everyone involved, it matters. The one being executioned will not enjoy a butchered execution, where it takes a couple of painful seconds (or a minute or two) to die.
The parents of the executioned will care. An the family of the victim (let's assume a robbery got out of hand and the perpetrator shot a grandma) cares as well. If they want to see the guy suffer for shooting grandma, they can watch his body twitch and hear his cries as he's being strapped to the chair.
Personally, that'd make me sick, but I guess after hearing nan got shot, people's minds just change and some want to see others suffer. (The Joker did that as well, didn't he?)
3. You said; "if you don't want to be executed by the law don't break the law", but sometimes the system is not as clear as you'd want it to be.
4% of the inmates did not break the law...but their hearts were made to stop beating, because they wanted to quickly get it over with, before it got clear they were innocent.
4. You're mentioning a speeding ticket (and then a bit of a trivializing 'oh court is humiliating as well' when I was óbviously talking about a seizuring death involving tears, vomit, that ends with urination out of fear and a painful death.)
But not everyone in deathrow, dear Brian, has shot someone.
Some people have dealt drugs, some people robbed a lot of banks, some people shot out of fear and happened to kill someone by accident.
A shaking hand of a robber might make the gun go off. Maybe someone grabbed the gun and they shot out of panic. All I'm saying is...most of the time, it was not their intention to murder...usually they wanted cash/drugs/whatever and felt a gun was the right way to intimidate.
How much percent of deathrow, do you think, involves the kind of murders that are carefully planned and involves a perverted, sexually agressive mastermind who's only job is to rape the world and everyone in it?
I bet it's under 50%, they execute a lót of people, considering 4% is innocent.
5. I have to admit, I lost you there. You say it costs money to keep the prisoners alive and that they create a lot of waste.
With those small amounts of food and practically nothing they can buy in prison, I highly doubt that they create more waste than you.
If you're concerned about waste and the costs that humans create, then I suggest you talk to the people that aren't being restricted to do whatever the f. they want.
And talk to the people that throw 1/4th of their groceries away out of cleanliness-fear, people that insist on having large cars with lots of exhaust, people that don't use bicycles, that love to waste stuff when it's past the date on the box...
People that have items and buy more items.
Those people are wasteful and waste a lot of food and money. Those people are called the American people outside of prisons.
Good luck.
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