Comments by "Widdekuu91" (@Widdekuu91) on "New bodycam shows cop's confrontation with college student" video.
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@stevemyopinion423
1. No, a plastic stick with a clip is not a weapon. I can do far worse things to someone with an unripe banana.
2. He did not fight back. He refused to work with him, but he did not fight back. He did not attack, provoke or struggle.
3. Although your advice is logical, in this case, it was a very brave thing to do. He confronted the man and made sure the severity of the case was being seen.
By diffusing the tension, there'd hardly be anything to sue over (in the eyes of the cops), wouldn't there? Also...cops have a lot of money and he (with all due respect) probably doesn't want to spend money on a case that he'll most likely lose anyway (if you know how things go.)
4. Sure, but in this case, the colour of his skin in combination to the fact there was a gun drawn, was quite a clear sign of racial bias.
5. Sueing, as I said, is not for everyone. It costs a lot of money to even get your case evaluated in the first place, let alone if they don't choose to settle and instead, drag all of their jury-friends into the story. Sueing costs a lot, takes a lot of time, this took guts and this showed the world what happened.
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To be honest, it frightens me how everyone of you is making fun of this.
Picking up litter is a serious crime. It's been done by many people, all over the world (usually hippies, the allknown worst merciless criminals of them all) and has a big effect on the environment.
I'm not kidding, if everyone were to pick up trash, that'd have an effect on birds, fish, foxes, rabbits, the sea-creatures, the land-creatures, the humans even.
What he was doing, had an effect on each and every one of us. Everyone was benefitting from that, whether they wanted clean pavement or not!
And thát's why it's so important.
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@stevemyopinion423
I know what you mean, but this "weapon" was a stick with a clip on the end, to pick up trash.
The cop was trying to see if he could intimidate him into putting down his item, by calling it a weapon and enforcing his power over him.
If you behave submissively to that, they think they can get away with it. The guy did the right thing.
I once had a collegue that had to 'help me' after they fired me for money-reasons. She was the 2nd manager and had power-issues as well.
She managed to drag me into a barely-lit room and started searching my entire bag, taking out tampons and pads and questioning pens and pencils; 'Are those ours? They look like ours...these are our pens!'
Because she wanted to upset me. And see how far she could humiliate me.
I refused to give the pen back and waited patiently untill she realised the brand of the pen said ADHD and Autism Centre after which I politely reminded her that I was the one with autism and not her.
She was furious, took my company-toiletbag and yanked the keyring off with my name, screaming; 'We'll make sure to find a second person named Emma, because you're not going to take that keyring home!!!'
I shrugged my shoulders and said; 'Fine.' She took the toiletbag and emptied it on the table, saying I wasn't allowed to keep the gifted bag either. I didn't care.
She then put the keyring ín the bag and grabbed my pen, saying; 'Well, I guess we're done' and I said; 'No, we're not. You have my pen. Give it back please.' and the whole thing started over again.
In the end, she was angry, exhausted and frustrated and I refused to leave untill I got my pen back. She had to give it back to me and after that she quite literally kicked me out of the door.
But that wasn't the power-tripping enjoyable moment she'd imagined. She'd made things very difficult for herself by insisting on keeping the pen. This moment taught her that she shouldn't have done that. That was an important lesson that the cop very well may have learned also.
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@stevemyopinion423
1. If anything you can break or hit someone with is a weapon, how come the police aren't too afraid to go outside in the first place?
If everything's a weapon...come on. That means the grocerie-store is a boobytrap. And that anyone on a bike is a danger to your life.
2. Ok.
3. Sure. But why would he be cleaning other people's property? It doesn't make sense to feel threathened by it.
4. I've watched enough American documentaries to know that the fírst thing they do is an internal investiation, by the collegues. If théy decide it needs to go to the Civil Court or Review board (which does not happen often, because the last time an officer decided to do so, his collegues shunned him and called him a dirty rat and bullied him away from the group), it could've already been purged from their files.
Gypsy-cops are too common, so even if he gets charged with abusing his power, he can just start working somewhere else.
It's a bit naive to think that cops don't back each other up. What, you think you can just 'professionally' tell your collegues that you feel mr. Collegueman needs to resign? And that they'll be fine with that?
Also, "I have a black friend' is a stupid detail in this conversation. I have no friends, but I know two black dudes that live nearby, does that make my story more legit? No.
What makes my story legit is that I live in another country and therefore, I know a life without this kindof BS is possible. Some of the Americans I speak to, are convinced that we're being raped left and right by refugees or being muslimized while we're typing.
What if I told you that our country is fine? Your country is not dealing with this shit the right way.
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