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Comments by "Widdekuu91" (@Widdekuu91) on "Prisoners In Finland Live In Open Prisons Where They Learn Tech Skills | On The Ground" video.
@thunderb00m Locking someone up at the cost of that family's taxmoney, making sure the guy is mentally unstable and likely to kill again, making his life a living hell without him being able to take it back sounds like a very emotional choice, not a rational one.
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@thunderb00m It's not that his life in prison is better than it would've been outside. He is living with the trauma of having (accidentally) murdered, the guilt that'll never leave. He hasn't been able to visit his loved ones, talk to his friends. He deals with shame, ofcourse, because people know what he did. He is not able to live his life the way that Finland could've offered him. If he weren't an inmate. If you think he's likely to do it again (the deterrent thing) then you haven't listened well. Instead of 2/3 coming back (like in America) only 1/3 comes back. It works better. Studies have shown that. Your argument again, sounds emotional, not rational.
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I'm from the Netherlands and we had a teacher that came back out of prison, for murder. (Not like a dramatic homicide, more like a passionate fight that got out of hand.) I have to be honest, first time they introduced him as the previous-murderer and then happily announced he'd be helping us with arts and crafts (nails, hammers, drills, saw and knifes) I was a bit nervous. But he was a very calm man and even though many of my fellow students tried to egg him on (it was a school for kids with agressionproblems/addictions and in my case, only ADHD) he always kept his cool and would slowly ask the student to leave the class. He taught us how to handle stuff safely and was always there to help. Later, he changed jobs and I found out he was teaching kickboxing to my mom (and her group.) Probably one of the best teachers we've had.
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I'm fairly sure that they take into account how it happened. My ex-teacher had a drunken brawl with someone and ended up killing him with a punch that was too hard. It wasn't someone who planned the homicide in advance, it was never the intent to kill him. People shouldn't find comfort in knowing others are suffering. You're acting like taking a life wouldn't leave mental scars.
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@__ Also I'd like to add that I'm from the Netherlands (not the happiest country, but proven to have the happiest children) and we have a similar system, not as good as theirs, but we're actively closing down prisons, because we just have fewer criminals to fill them with. The numbers of crime have dropped to an alltime low, like they were in the 80's.
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@morecakesmorelays3270 The USa currently has the deathpenalty and can't decide over the methods of killing people, many people turn out to be innocent, judges kill more folks 'legally' during election-time and botched executions have traumatized volunteers (because there was no doctor allowed, to properly kill him.) You're just suggesting a lot more hassle and it says a lot about your country when you support deathpenalties. There's a thing called 'soft-power' and when a country loses that, they lose their support. Google it.
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@__ I'm fairly sure that people actually dangerous to society will be rehabilitated first...otherwise, do you really think they'd be the happiest country?
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It's sad how many Americans in the comments are flabbergasted about the family that "probably wants revenge." This guy was most likely part of an accidental murder, not a planned one. Maybe he drunkdrove, maybe he got into a fistfight that ended badly. I severely doubt this man was a true hitman that enjoyed murdering. And he's is now living a prosperous life, it's sad that so many of you are unable to understand why this is good.
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@pedazodetorpedo When you hit someone during a mutual fight and he falls on the sidewalk and breaks his neck.
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@pedazodetorpedo Well I feel it's safe to assume, knowing the Finns, that they dó differentiate, even if it is just in the treatment and the details. There was a reason that he was allowed outside (after years of sitting inside) and dangerous individuals aren't treated like that. I doubt the community would be as happy as they have been proven to be, if that weren't the case.
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@chaitaniyatiwari3491 He's not living the best of his life. They do not try and make them comfortable, certainly not if it was a murder out of revenge. This man has most likely been a guy that gave one punch too many during a drunken brawl and therefore, after many years, he gets chances to build up his life again. Also, nobody in their right mind would want to go back to prison if there's a good safetynet for áfter prison. I'm fairly convinced the biggest reason people get send back is drug-abuse and not murder. You have to watch the video.
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@harrellt1405 Alright, well I'm fairly sure it's called 'unintended murder' and 'intended murder' in my country :P Or like..pre-thought-of murder and..oh whatever. But yeah, I know it's different. In all countries, people that killed because they wanted to, are not being treated the same as accidental killers.
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