Comments by "Widdekuu91" (@Widdekuu91) on "Blackface in the Netherlands: why is the Zwarte Piet tradition still a thing?" video.

  1.  @Ms.takenlee  Blacksmith's hands stop changing back to white after a while, that's why I mentioned it. It's a difficult situation and believe me, there are many solutions (I personally would prefer a black ánd soot mix of Petes) but that's not the solution that the anti-Petes want.
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  2. Stop provoking, it's not funny.
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  3. If all the American Elves turned blue, would the kids accept that or would it ruin the fairytale? Just imagine that.
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  4. Stop provoking.
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  5.  @roy_hks  Actually on Curacao, they made a lot of video's saying; 'What's the problem, we love black pete here." That's one of the reasons why I feel this is so out of context. I understand not all of the interviews fit into the video, but it's quite clear which ones they picked and which ones they didn't.
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  6.  @LunaJo67WDHTMJ  He was tired and fooling around, he's a younger version, I agree this is not the common behavour one can expect from a Saint Nicolas.
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  7.  @Ms.takenlee  Have you ever seen a miner's hands? They turn black and it doesn't wash off after a while. Saint Nicolas represents the days and Black Pete, the mythical figure, represents the night and winter. He's sowing (pepernoten) seeds for the upcoming year. It's an old myth about a Saint saving three children from a certain death. I don't have time to type the whole thing.
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  8.  @Ms.takenlee  I doubt your family is made up of mythical figures though.
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  9.  @vonlobo  Because you're doing this to create extra tension and throw oil on the fire. What kindof postive effect do you think that'll have?
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  10. Have you ever seen a blacksmith's hands?
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  11. I think what's important is that there is a small group that's against Black Pete (a mixed group) and the rest of the black people, including the ones in the Black-petes-groups, see Pete as a mythical figure with black facepaint. And they enjoy seeing everyone appreciated for their personality, once all the freckles, wrinkles or recognisable features are gone and everyone is just 'Pete.' I know how much cultural diversity there is in the groups. You just can't see it, because everyone is equal with the Facepaint on. I agree with you that we should make sure that everyone is also equal without the Facepaint on. But removing the national childhood-hero and replacing him with a sooted recognisable person is not the solution. As I said, he is not just the childhood-hero for white people, he is the childhood-hero for Morroccans and Turks and Asians and black people and everyone that grew up with him. Apart from ofcourse, the anti-Petes.
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  12. @Jericho Jezza Hou je kop man, jij komt erdoorheen een beetje stoken. Doe niet. Edit; Hij is ee leeg account, een troll. Ik rapporteer hem wel.
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  13.  @dominiquejones3805  I don't think I said that?
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  14.  @dominiquejones3805  Who says he cleans? Where did you get that from?
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  15. It's not about "white" or "black", he's supposed to represent a mythical figure, hence the reason why there are also black people in the groups that dress up as the national hero, Pete. You just can't see the difference, because, you guessed it, they are made unrecognisable, so the kids don't recognise their family-members in the group. Everyone is appreciated equally in thes groups, no matter their race. Nobody can see your race or gender, you are seen as Pete, the hero.
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  16. Hitler salutes are given with a right hand. The left can be raised without a problem.
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  17. Nobody paints their face black unless it's december and nobody would ever go outside without their costume on. It's quite an expensive and serious thing. They tried their best to make it look silly and unprofessional in the documentary above, but trust me, people spend a lot of money on those costumes, it's not about "being black" or something. Shoe-polish you can buy in every store, if people wanted to walk around in blackface, they wouldn't need Sinterlaas-festivities. This is about traditions and celebrating Pete, who has become more popular than Saint Nicolas.
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  18. Nobody paints their face black unless it's december and nobody would ever go outside without their costume on. It's quite an expensive and serious thing. They tried their best to make it look silly and unprofessional in the documentary above, but trust me, people spend a lot of money on those costumes, it's not about "being black" or something. Shoe-polish you can buy in every store, if people wanted to walk around in blackface, they wouldn't need Sinterlaas-festivities. This is about traditions and celebrating Pete, who has become more popular than Saint Nicolas.
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  19. Nobody paints their face black unless it's december and nobody would ever go outside without their costume on. It's quite an expensive and serious thing. They tried their best to make it look silly and unprofessional in the documentary above, but trust me, people spend a lot of money on those costumes, it's not about "being black" or something. Shoe-polish you can buy in every store, if people wanted to walk around in blackface, they wouldn't need Sinterlaas-festivities. This is about traditions and celebrating Pete, who has become more popular than Saint Nicolas.
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  20. Scheer niet over 1 kam, doe rustig.
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