Comments by "" (@Josh93B93) on "Face the Nation"
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@D.A.OhK. you funded the overthrow of the elected leader of a sovreign nation in violation of article 7 of the hague convention, the same as the US attempted to do in Nicuragua. Victor Yanukovich was overthrown after already agreeing to resign his position, Victoria Nuland promised US support to Svaboda and Right Sector to effect immediate regime change, following this the Maidan protest was hijacked by violent opposition groups that started attacking left-wing protesters from Borotba party as well as the police that were forced to respond, violence continued to escalate and the far right groups began attacks across the western half of the nation and order began breaking down, Victor Yanukovich was forced to flee after elements of the police and armed forces were cooperating with the far right groups and distributing weapons, in the following week of the coup several atrocities were committed against anti-coup protesters such as the Odessa trade union massacre, at this time right sector stormed the Rada in Kiev and forced the passing of anti-Russian legislation and the banning of Borotba and the Ukrainian communist party at gunpoint, following these actions the populaces of Donetsk and Lugansk held open referendums for regional autonomy in order to protect the lives and interest of the the predominantly russian residents in the regions. The regime in Kiev considered this insubordination to be an act of treason and the regimes president Poroshenko then started an Anti-terrorism operation" against both regions that started with air and artillery strikes being fired into the hearts of Donetsk and Lugansk, leaving several thousands dead and injured. This was the first offensive of the conflict, made with the full support of the United States and NATO, this occured 8 years before the Russian military intervened. Russia did not start this war. Ukraine did at the beckoning of the west. That is not propaganda, its fact. You cant blame Russia for starting a war that started 8 years before Russia started fighting, that's just not how time works regardless of your political stance.
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Ukraine is going to regret it, Not a Putin supporter btw, just a pragmatist.
1.Going on the offensive meant pulling soldiers off the line in Donbas leaving defences weaker in the face of an ongoing Russian offensive that has since sped up at increasing pace, which will only lower the morale of Ukrainian soldiers.
2. Since the start of the offensive it has enraged the Russian public and led to a boost in recruitment.
3.Russian pilots and missiles are still being freely dropped on Ukrainian soil.
4.As the Russian offensive moves even quicker through Ukrainian lines it forces Ukraine to form new defensive lines in donbass with less hands and more strain on logistics as they try to support one offensive at the same time as trying to stop another.
5. The airbases at Voronezh, Savasleyka and Borisoglebsk have already returned to operational status
6.Ukraine has lost more than 2000 soldiers in 1 week, and Ukraines currently loss rate outweighs its recruitment, which is not sustainable.
7. The territory captured is of little strategic value and added with the public outrage is unlikely to have significant impact on negotiations other than solidifying Russias resoning for its intervention in the conflict in Ukraine.
8.The offensive has only strained relations even further with NATO states with the possibility of states continuing to supply an offensive war against russia being targeted themselves.
9.Ukraine will have to spend more effort, time and money evacuating Ukrainians in the donbass that it cannot afford.
10. May yet still cause the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons against Ukraine.
Holding Russian territory isnt going to bring Putin to the table, the more territory that's taken will only increase Russia resolve and patriotism, capturing territory in the east didnt work for Napoleon or for Hitler, it's not going to work for Zelensky now either.
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@dougwalls6266 As of 2024, the Federation of American Scientists estimates that Russia possesses 5,580 nuclear weapons, while the United States has 5,428; Russia and the U.S. each have about 1,600 active deployed strategic nuclear warheads. With that said, earth could be rendered uninhabitable with as few as 400 being used, I'm sure that Joaquin here would play this down with the US and USSR detonating more than this number during the cold war, but the majority of these test were underground and the majority of contamination was contained, in a global exchange massive amounts of radioactive particles would be released into the atmosphere that would endanger the human race along with most life on the planet. As much as warhawks want to downplay this reality, I have to ask is Ukraine being indebted to the US, EU and IMF really worth the fuggin risk? Even if the Ukrainians magically won the war their nation is leveled and the economy is in shambles, the agricultural industry would take years to recover and the US would be sat with the responsibility of rebuilding like it had to do with Germany and Japan just to leve the nation in perpetual debt to the IMF, it that really worth the risk of nuclear apocalypse? Idk about you but I dont even speak Ukrainian, I'm not ready to burn for them.
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@DV-lr8ec same that's happening to Ukraine now, Germany wasted its soldiers on unsound offensives until they no longer had the manpower to stop Soviet offensives, I know everyone is focused on kursk, but the russian offensive in donbass has only sped up, even while russian soldiers were pulled from the offensive to plug the gap in Kursk, Ukraine is running out of men faster than new soldiers can be drafted and trained. It's a numbers game that even with all the financial and material support Ukraine has gotten, they were never going to be able to win, Ukraine has lost over 2000 men in this offensive so far, all to hold less than 1% of russias territory, meanwhile Russia holds 25% of Ukrainian territory with more on the way while both side continue to suffer comparable casualties, they dont come close to comperable reserves, what happens when ukraine runs out of men to drive the western tanks and pilots to fly the western fighters? It's just a numbers game.
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