Comments by "Andy Dee" (@AndyViant) on "Drones, politics and costs are killing Europe’s Tigers." video.

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  5.  @goodshipkaraboudjan  That was in part because Australia wanted to build the subs, partly because the subs were being modified, but mostly because the the particular flavour of government in Australia at the time was more interested in turning every government purchase into a domestic political porkbarrelling/propoganda campaign than an effective purchase. The recent reviews of Australia's recent and proposed military purchases has been scathing about the amount of wasted money, corruption and ineptness in defence spending. That's in the ones that actually happened rather than were merely "announcables" with no actual work done. Money has been spent on the wrong things, in the wrong defence budgets, with massive inefficiency and a fair bit of corruption. Much of it was pure marketing with no actual acquisitions. Australia should have canned their modified conventional Barracuda class and renegotiated a deal for French nuclear subs, and gone with that. The French would have happily built them, they'd have been way cheaper, we wouldn't have had to pay a billion pollar penalty clause, and we'd have got them well before the mid 2030's, and had most of the technology and jobs here (except for the nuclear powerplant refits) . But that wouldn't suit the Americans. What we really need is the UK Astute class, they're 100% the best match for our needs, but build times for them are far off too. French Suffren/Barracuda class subs would be the next best match - pump jet technology, nuclear power for extended mission time at depth and small crew complements for a relatively small navy. Astute requires over 50% more manpower, meaning we can operate at best 2/3 the number of submarines. Virginia needs over 130 people on board compared to Suffren's 60, and costs over twice as much. So we can have less than half the submarines active at any time, or be covering half the area. Australia has a lot of ocean to patrol, so the Virginia class seem to be the worst option of the three by a very large margin. But such is the price of military alliances.
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