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Comments by "Stephen Jenkins" (@stephenjenkins7971) on "Chinese vs. American Political Philosophy" video.
@taichimaster8807 I think it's more the lack of accountability and complete lack of transparency that makes the idea that the CCP is uber meritocratic kinda bunk. We literally can't say that they are, but we can see that the standard of living for workers is very lacking while the wealthy make sweeping gains in the CCP. The difference in a place like the US whose workers' standards of living is MUCH higher compared to China's kinda points to different levels of corruption. It'd be much easier to tell if China was more transparent, but it's a common tactic in dictatorships to prevent transparency to maintain control. And you're gonna have to cite any examples of a lot of comments either here or on social media being deleted because they're against the US government. I can open it up right now, and see people love ripping the US for their politics. Are you talking about shutting down straight propaganda like the Fort Detrick thing? Because that's not criticism. This is a common tactic; "we all have propaganda so China propaganda is fine". No, sorry, but there is a massive difference between a government making the news like in China, and another government having private news with their own agenda. For pete's sakes, this very video literally proves it; this information is easily available to Americans while nothing for the US is available to mainlanders...because they're not allowed. Needing VPNs. To nobody in the international community is this remotely comparable.
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I love how this theory all relies on the udea that these CCP leaders all actually want the greater good for China all while human rights groups who also shit on Western countries note their even worse human rights abuses. It all seems like a massive cope on the level of Soviet apologism back in the day in regards to Soviet imperialism in Eastern Europe. Either way, like last time, when China hopefully opens up from the CCP; apologists like you will retract and go "it wasn't real Marxism"...again.
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@superduperfreakyDj Considering all of the country's wealthiest members of society are in the upper echelons of the CCP, and considering how the Party happens to target powerful individuals who are NOT Xi loyalists, I find your statement to not only be naive, but bordering on delusional.
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@gregwang8628 Sarcasm aside, its kinda obvious that a big improvement would be more political representation from those very 1.4 billion ordinary Chinese people to hold leaders accountable rather than just trusting the government to do their job. No more repression and making people they don't like disappear either, the basics of human rights would be a start.
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@eternalobi "Just as much" Uh, last I checked, the US itself isn't making Chinese propaganda barring calling Uyghur Cultural genocide just a genocide, period. The former is backed hy human rights groups, the latter claimed by the US us not. Meanwhile China is spreading misinformation about everything in regards to US society to promote internal nationalism. Like, it's Red Scare levels.
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China claims it's practicing meritocracy; the constant scandals that pop out from prominent CCP leaders point that this isn't true at all. And this is with CCP total control of the media.
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@taichimaster8807 Another default deflection. Why do you need to visit another country to call out systemic issues? Why do you need to understand the language? We are all humans in the end, and it's not like the US expects people to visit to make opinions. We have stats, especially from international sources and even the CCP's itself. Why do you automatically trust the CCP whem it says good things but dismiss the bad?
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@oscarchute6040 I guess because sometimes peasants became Emperors back in the day that implies that meritocracy was real, amirite? The exception doesn't prove the rule, genius.
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@joviizlyr "huge problem in the West now that the media are not being responsible in making sure to report about China truthfully and fairly" They are reporting what they see or what other people see. No media in the West are saying that there is a genocide in Xinjiang outside of right-wing press. Meanwhile, press in China consistently talk non-stop about China "helping" Africa or talking about the West "sabotaging" China 24/7. Even peddling conspiracy theories that nobody in the international community believes like the Fort Detrick theory. China, of all nations, has zero room to bitch about propaganda. Its entire media is nothing but government propaganda. Shutting down anything not aligned with the government while places like the US allow CGTN which does nothing but praise China to keep running. And yet you focus on the West. Give me a break, you're so full of hypocrisy on this topic.
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@superduperfreakyDj Your entire prior statement is all based on the belief that the CCP isn't abusing its authority. Suffice it to say, history says that you're full of it; not even when looking at the current situation. Unless you're in the upper echelons of the CCP, you have no actual idea wtf is going on inside it. But considering the piss poor social nets for the people, the slavish state of hte workers and poor, and the general issues of corruption? Geez dude, idk, I wish I could be as starry-eyed as you. The world might look less jaded. Or is this optimism literally only afforded to the CCP? I'm sure similar arguments were made to Nazi Germany and the USSR before them, and like all authoritarian countries, the truth will reveal itself AFTER it collapses.
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@amihart9269 Economic disparity started the first time under Deng, so idk how true this is. And Xi proclaiming for more prosperity for the people doesn't at all mean that is the case. More likely he's using the chance to attack political opponents under the guise of helping the peoppe. This is basic cynicism of politics vs ideals; and it is absurd why so many unironically give Xi Jinping the benefit of the doubt when no leader deserves it until we see literal structural change.
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