Comments by "Stephen Jenkins" (@stephenjenkins7971) on "RealLifeLore"
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@ohnonilu 1) US is not interested in resources, it helped Iraq sell its oil to the highest bidder and didn't steal any. It's interested in maintaining stability as well as keeping countries aligned to it. These goals clash sometimes, but blaming the US for b Yemen when Iran literally initiated the war there by coping the previous government is why I can't take you guys seriously. You insist the US is causing trouble and yet ignore when the US is reacting to others causing trouble.
2) I never claimed the US was perfect, just that it was critical to peace in many regions of the world. East Asia, Europe, and much of the Carribean depend on US power to dissuade foreign aggressors.
3) Israel is complicated, so how about this; every war ever has violated UN international laws. But Israel has violated a lot less of them than every war combatant in the past decade. This raging against Israel is not because of international law, otherwise people would rage far more against Ethiopia, Sudan, Myanmar, or Russia whom have cause WAAAAAY more deaths. No. It's because it's Israel and a lot of people already hated it. If anything, the US is to be commended for not abandoning an ally when the rest of the world shows off its hypocrisy.
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@MadChad1640 "Set by the colonial powers" Hold the phone here. First of all, China is itself a colonial power. It expanded from the Huang He river and pushed its Han culture on the surrounding peoples as it expanded. It economically exploited its neighbors via a tributary system. That's the first thing.
Secondly, the issues in the South China Sea has much less to do with the years of European colonialism than it does with China's own imperialism via revanchism. Throughout all of time countries had different borders which "intrude" on modern borders. The reasonable thing is for people to let go of the past to look to the future; but China decided to ignore that to claim old territory via aggressively setting up military bases in what was considered international waters. That's REALLY aggressive. And these directly threaten everyone who relies on those waters; how is this "set up" by other powers? This is literally all Chinese actions. Did the "colonial powers" force China to build those bases in international waters? Did it force China to ram Philippines and Vietnamese ships? Did it aggressively talk down to these countries to not start trouble?
China's literal modern borders were made by invading and conquering neighbors. It's "original" borders are in the Huang He river. Nobody is telling China to go back to that, just to respect the modern rules so that other countries don't have to fear China. Of course, big countries abuse these rules when it's their interests, the Americans have done the same, and so has China; but at some point you need to be pragmatic and see that giving lip service and not violating SOME rules goes a long way to not get everyone antsy.
Look man, there is this weird tendency by the Chinese to just...dismiss everyone in this equation but the US and China. I get it; China is a big country now, but that will cause issues. I think its possible that the US will withdraw some if only out of growing isolationism at home, but just like China, the US is bound by the rules of the modern age. It can't act unilaterally as it used to, and many countries are going to push to use US power for their own ends as well.
Basically; everyone has an agenda, and even the smaller countries when working together can achieve big things. Think the likes of Yugoslavia balancing itself between the US and USSR for its own benefit. Same deal, but now there are more actors that can play that game.
China can't play the unilateral game. Nobody can. It needs to play the game smart, not hard.
Edit: TLDR; this is all very complicated and we live in a different age. If China wants to secure its water way, a better strategy would be to subvert influence of other big countries in the Pacific instead of aggressively setting up bases. Force the other big countries to look the aggressor against innocent and friendly China. Win internationals support so that trust for China grows and its own soft power can grow.
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@Rishi123456789 What? No. We should all try and NOT just tear apart another country. That would lead to massive world instability, firstly. Secondly, it would be immoral to the extreme. Thirdly, pragmatically, that would be impossible; the US would never support that, and that's impossible without US aid. Hell, prolly impossible even with US aid.
Besides, a second Humiliation would be only happen in the midst of severe internal unrest. Subverting the country is the only feasible option. CCP control is predicated on the idea of its control over the country led to China's current prosperity. Subvert China's economy, and that will make the CCP lose face and force it to take more drastic actions -and in turn lose further international support. And in turn, lower the standing of the CCP within the country.
Of course, that could lead to civil war, which is...terrible to hope for.
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@alexzhangdragonn3438 China is also forcibly invading international waters, placing military bases that are still there to this day, and occupying it with soldiers. And the countries around China sure as hell feel like they're being invaded, if their rhetoric is to be believed. I gave you examples so that you can reflect it on your country, but you just chose to ignore it, which is a shame since that's how you improve -by looking at a mirror.
Sailing into international waters is not aggressive, you know? It's expected. It's a right. Placing a military base and then declaring it yours? That is considered aggressive, yes. How is this appalling? One is a given right, the other is essentially stealing territory.
Idk, maybe. But that's impossible to tell. What we can say definitively is that China's neighbors consider China to be an imperialist, and so many in unison about it ruins China's image and its future prospects. Again; smarter, not harder. You're going about this terribly.
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