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Comments by "Stephen Jenkins" (@stephenjenkins7971) on "War stagnation signals Ukraine is fighting for full stakes? Day 25." video.
@ninja-gaming8988 At no point did Trump seriously try to leave NATO. The man was a tool, but he wasn't that much of one. He also never once retracted any aid the US was sending Ukraine, though he obviously did try and get political favors -morally fucked, but at no point was there anything he did which indicated a lack of US will to help Ukraine.
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@montanus777 No, we did not. Ukraine is not the West's responsibility; the fact it's helping at all is stellar. We should strive for that always, but let's not act like this is something we are SUPPOSED to do. Well, at least generally Eastern Europe and the Anglo nations were on top of this. Some of Western Europe kinda were sus for a while.
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@juniorjames7076 Wrong, it blindsided everyone because it's the stupidest thing Russia could have done. A blatant invasion while the US was hyper analyzing every move so that they couldn't make a decent excuse for it? No, not even the US can get away with that; there needs to be some reason that elicits enough doubt to at least make the invasion somewhat palatable.
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@montanus777 Dude. Macron was telling everyone literally days prior to the invasion that Putin promised he wouldn't invade. Zelensky was telling Biden to stop scaring everyone by declaring that Russia was about to invade and everyone online was mocking the US for it. Germany was screeching up and down that dialogue was working and sending weapons would only exacerbate the situation. Yeah, no; people were either blindsided or they were cynically getting ready to throw Ukraine under the bus.
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@allangibson2408 Russia doesn't care.
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@ninja-gaming8988 Yeah, he said a lot of stupid crap but then did the opposite. I'm aware. But the fact is he never made a move to leave NATO. But yes, Trump's erratic behavior did NOT help anything to be sure.
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@jimc1654 That's all well and good, but this continued effort to detract from US warnings both worked in fermenting more doubt against warnings against Russian imperialism is my point. All over the internet people were saying that a Russian invasion was just American propaganda fermenting racism and bigotry against Russia. It also reaaaally doesn't help in stopping American isolationist feelings. For now, due to the crisis, it has been silenced for a bit. But people will bring it up again how once against it feels like Europe played moral superiority while the US got the brunt of the backlash from a moral standpoint. I do sympathize with Zelensky's position, just thinking of the consequences is all.
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@allangibson2408 It guaranteed not to violate Ukraine's independence; not to guarantee its security. Not even Ukraine believes that. People need to actually read the damn treaty.
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@helioshyperion8077 There is literally no clause indicating that the US was supposed to give any security guarantees; that would be absurd, especially since the US at the time did not even have the means to reach Ukraine as most of the surrounding nations weren't even US allies yet until years afterwards. Hell, it's even more absurd since Ukraine at the time did not have the means to even maintain the nuclear weapons; they were being held in Ukrainian territory was all. Find a clause that states the US is supposed to defend Ukrainian sovereignty, you can't find it, because you know you're full of it. If Ukrainians couldn't find such a clause, you can't either, idk how else to dumb it down. "we know you are no different than russia" And yet Ukraine keeps running back to the US. It's sad how you need to make up stuff just to try and play "both sides bad".
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