Comments by "Stephen Jenkins" (@stephenjenkins7971) on "China demands answers on US nuclear submarine collision in South China Sea" video.

What I find most telling is how this guy acts as if he's speaking for all of the region when only China is bitching about this. It's also only China acting like the US is unwelcome in the region, and ignoring it was invited in reaction to Chinese aggression. Who is he to dictate where the US goes to begin with?
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@enjoylife8590 US hasn't built a new military base since the early 2000's, and nobody has ever complained of US warships cruising through the area. Mostly because the US has helped protect their trade routes, and thus depends on them. But yes, everyone is just a puppet of the US. No one has sovereignty, and that's why China is being bullied, right? Imagine being so full of propaganda that you think the US has control over every single country. Or maybe, just maybe, other countries recognize that China is a threat? Duterte literally was full anti-US in the Philippines, and was trying to turn to China, but instead China stole Filipino waters and attacked Filipino fishermen. Acts of aggression escalated after Duterte threatened to kick out the US and told them to butt out. That means to literally everyone else that China will only get WORSE if the US is forced to leave, so why the hell would they do that after that? There have been more than 20 wars in the 21st century, genius. The US has been involved in like 4 of them, and only 1 has the US actually started itself as an aggressor; the Iraq War. Everything else occurred as a defensive war (Afghanistan War) or the US got involved after the fact (Syrian Civil War and Libyan Civil War). The US is critical in many parts of the world, and those countries WANT the US to be there to help back them from countries like the one you're protecting. If China wasn't such a threat, then the US wouldn't be welcome. China needs to go home, and stop bullying its neighbors so the US can back off too. Get out of Filipino waters! CHINA GO HOME!
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@enjoylife8590 You realize that agent orange is a chemical, right? And that it was used mostly to clear vegetation in order to flush out the VietCong? It was 100% a bad thing, but that really doesn't go against what I've said; that the US is generally necessary to world stability. At least for now; also, the Vietnamese have forgiven the US for that, so how about you not co-opt issues in the past for your propaganda? It's also not YOUR country's issues, it's Vietnam's, and they'll do what they will with it. The US doesn't pay for media, they're independent, troll. The CCP is the one with the government-sponsored media, but you conveniently forgot to mention that. Maybe if the CCP spent more on worker's rights, it wouldn't have them be treated as slave labor anymore. But you don't care. Because you're just a CCP bot that deflects from China's imperialism. Get off of India's, TIbet's, Xinjiang's, Vietnamese, Philippines, Indonesian, Taiwanese, and Singaporean territory. Until then, the US is welcome in the region.
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@enjoylife8590 Nothing they said was hypocritical lol
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@enjoylife8590 Name what was hypocritical, then. Because you're full of it lol
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@urrywest All industrial economies eventually become service-based economies. It's impossible to keep up with cheap labor after a country's citizens economic welfare becomes better. China is switching soon too, with industries leaving China for cheaper labor elsewhere.
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ASEAN wants the US there, Wumao. Only China is acting like the US is the destabilizing influence in the region.
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@medialcanthus9681 To China it was, no one is complaining about the US pivot barring China. Why is that? Nor are countries complaining about Australia getting more defenses. Only China. Maybe the issue isn't the people responding to aggression; maybe the issue is the country in which is acting like the crybully? Oh nice, so everyone NOT China is the issue. Are Indonesia complaining about the US? No, they are complaining about China. And Malaysia and Cambodia are Chinese allies to begin with, with the latter not involved in the SCS at all. So only Malaysia which is aligned with China is OK with China's actions while the neutral Vietnam and Indonesia are complaining about China. Even the pro-CCP and Anti-US Duterte was forced to return to the US after learning about China's actions. So who is causing chaos in the region? The country which is welcomed? Or the country which is NOT?
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@medialcanthus9681 US only has 2 big bases in the region, with the one in South Korea being for North Korea. Plus the second in Japan was more because Japan had a Constitution which didn't give it much of an ability to defend itself. The US acted as their shield in case the CCP wanted to attack, but since the Sino-Soviet split, the US has not seen China as a country to be worried about. Those forces never even threatened China before, so why are you acting like they're a threat? It has nothing to do with China to begin with. Nothing fair or unfair about it. The US only started patrolling the seas because China had been placing militarized islands which can be used to cut off trade from these trade-dependent countries AND claim territory which in turn can be used to control these countries. How would YOU feel if the US started placing militarized islands in the region and claiming it as US territory??? That would also be aggressive to everyone else in the region. I do see their POV and their issue; but how they're working about it pretty much proves the US' point; that they're a danger to everyone around them and are willing to fuck anyone as long as China benefits. Instead of asking others to understand China, why don't we ask the Chinese to understand the Philippines, Japan, South Korea, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, and Singapore? What about what THEY want as China militarizes the region in defiance of their wishes?
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@medialcanthus9681 What are you even talking about? Are you off your meds? China is the one being aggressive, and now you speak of nuclear war? How about China just dismantles its military islands and stop bullying its neighbors, and then the US back off in turn? How about we have peace instead of a new big country waving its dick around?
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@medialcanthus9681 Crappy analogy considering China is literally making militarized islands and claiming EVERYONE'S backyard in the SCS. It's NOT China's backyard, it's an international zone for free trade. It's like me complaining when someone is walking down the road when I claimed it as mine.
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@medialcanthus9681 So is Mongolia's conquest of Eurasia; that doesn't mean they get to retake it. In fact, if everyone followed that line of thinking, most of the world would be embroiled in a massive war since old borders of old empires criss-cross with modern borders. Why does China get to ignore modern borders because it used to have an empire, huh? You're the one with the ludicrous double-standard for China. China needs "understanding" for having control of the SCS, but there's no such understanding for China's neighbors. The US must bend over and "understand" China's concern for the US' military, but no such bending over for China and its militarized islands in international waters. China is the aggrieved party somehow and the US is bullying China by going into its "backyard" based on historical claims, but we have to ignore the historical claims that goes against China's self-interest while we're at it because...reasons. If you're gonna shill for China, at least be consistent about it. You're literally zigzagging everywhere in your logic, with Pro-China being the ONLY consistency here.
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@FukYoupoop That pretty much guarantees nuclear war against China, and as aggressive China has been, I doubt they'll do something THAT stupid.
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@FukYoupoop This is some serious projection considering how utterly corporate controlled Russia and China are; their governments are literal oligarchies to the US' democracy. Their people have virtually zero social and government intervention to help the people from corporate power compared to the US. Seriously, all international studies on the subject makes this profoundly ignorant on your part. China and Russia won't do shit with US troops and naval forces in the region. The US doesn't have to lift a finger, it only needs to hang around and Russia and China are too cowardly to do anything. Remember; it's not the US that is claiming Taiwan as its territory, or Ukraine for that matter. Russia IS heavily sanctioned for invading Ukraine, genius. China can try to invade Taiwan and see how many sanctions it will have, if it's so eager to join Russia in the economic dustbin.
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@FukYoupoop The US still follows UNCLOS even if it's not a part of it, ditto with the World Court; the issue is not even really of China disobeying these institutions though, it's of China stoking tensions when there were none due to its aggressive actions. No matter how you paint these actions; whether they be of a country retaking old territory or not, they're still incredibly imperialist based on how the current world works and which almost EVERYONE follows. There was no rule which "allowed" the US Invasion of Iraq, but it wasn't illegal either; and more importantly, it didn't massively disrupt a peaceful region. The Middle East since the fall of the Ottomans has been a very tense area, meanwhile since the 1990's at least, the SCS has been peaceful...at least until China has been claiming territory. And claiming territory is a MUCH bigger deal than just an invasion; the US never actually claimed territory in Iraq after the invasion. That would be a BIG deal that the US would need to be stopped from. No one is taking China to task in the ICC, nor is anyone demanding that Putin go to the ICC for invading a peaceful democracy. The ICC only works for poorer nations, unfortunately, not the wealthier ones. Considering most of the SCS is with the US on this and NOT complaining about the US presence in the region, it's more like "the Rules-based Order is a flawed system which MOST countries agree with". The rules in place internationally are still new, and followed haphazardly, but they're an excellent guideline for countries to decide which country is acting out of line, and most are deciding China is out of line. So China faces the ire of many nations, and China doesn't get to act like it's representing ANYONE in the SCS. TLDR: China is the issue here, not the US.
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@FukYoupoop I'm sorry, are you acting like these links change anything I said. ASEAN getting deeper ties does NOT mean that they are not complaining about China's actions, genius. And cautioning over a possible military alliance does NOT mean complaining about US presence in the region.
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@FukYoupoop I did respond to it, not to every single point, but I did. Edit: Oh shoot, YouTube deleted it. Uh, I countered most of your claims, but I ended it by saying that literally none of that matters in the context of "China is bitching about the US in the SCS, but no one else is". Which was the point, ultimately. Deflecting by mentioning other stuff, most of which are seriously questionable statements to begin with, doesn't change that.
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