Comments by "Stephen Jenkins" (@stephenjenkins7971) on "The making of an Asian NATO" video.

@lvjinbin28 The West didn't have an issue with China until they started claiming territories that weren't theirs to take. You don't get to act like the victim, China is the aggressor and not peaceful at all. This after decades of China neo-colonizing the US by taking advantage of its trade deal with no tariffs while China kept massively high tariffs and used splurging tactics to specifically fuck US industries for CCP-backed industries. China had made their bed. Time to lie in it.
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@lvjinbin28 I don't doubt that the US gave the ROC weapons after WW2 since the US literally demilitarized right after it ended to the point where it was barley ready for the Korean War. That being said, you didn't answer me. Can you cite proof that the West supported China's claims over the South China Sea? Because nothing of what you posted indicated that the US supported any claim whatsoever, just that it shrugged off the ROC's actions.
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@funbarsolaris2822 US grows almost all of its food, and US workers are among the hardest workers in the first world to the point where other wealthy nations mock them for it. Your inane tirade doesn't mesh with reality, tbh.
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@lvjinbin28 Can you provide proof that the West agreed with China's claim before?
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@justanerd414 You could have only said that if you believe that China will get better as a sole superpower. The US did not act anywhere near as aggressively as China had when it was just "one of many powers". Countries act more brazen when they become the biggest power on the planet; so how it's acting now will only get much worse -and it seems to have a habit of claiming territory of other countries.
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@jueljohnson41 US also hasn't stolen another country's territory in about a century. China has been doing that for the past few decades. Maybe China can learn something from the US, eh?
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@Bahala Na Philippines didn't enact its defensive pact and Duterte was and has been making noise that any US intervention against China and in favor of the Philippines was just the US trying to drag the Philippines into a war. So basically, nothing the US could've done would have worked. They'd still get blamed, no matter what.
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@painfultruth1846 Considering that other countries have not been afraid to kick out US troops, I'd say that that's false. Philippines Duterte was also not afraid of constantly shitting the US either, and European news media constantly criticize the US too. None of this points to fear. And frankly, many US allies have done things that the US has complained about -just look at Nord Stream 2, or Iran's sanctions. There have been quite a lot of disagreements. No matter how you argue it, these are independent nations using the US for their own ends. All states get destroyed from the inside. The question is which will collapse and reform first. History tells us that the democracies tend to stand the test of time even when they do collapse, but dictatorships? Well, those collapse entirely and breakup since totalitarian control was the only way to keep the country together.
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@cat3784 No one is stealing your oil. Western countries purchased the rights to your oil, just as the British purchased the rights to the US' oil in the Gulf of Mexico. You don't care about that though, so you scream "stealing".
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@jueljohnson41 Puppet governments which were never even puppets. The US only ever did coups in places which had their own reactionaries, and the US aided them, but there were very few times those countries ever walked the line that the US wanted them to walk -the vast majority of the time they just did what they planned on doing initially since the US can do little to actually stop them since "USSR bad, little dictatorship less bad" in the Cold War.
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@cquiroz7874 Philippines tried that. Turned out that the US didn't care enough to try and China simply stole Philippines territory. And if you look at history, it's actually usually a bad thing when two superpowers contest for influence because civil war occurs. Only a few countries were able to leverage that successfully. And by that, I mean, like, 2 countries.
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The issue being that there aren't nearly enough "friendly" countries that would work against the US in the first place.
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Ararune I'm sure most of Africa will be in that, as well as Latin America. I remember reading about it.
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Ararune Well, assuming we're living in a new Cold War; it's not as all encompassing as the last one was. There's also the fact that most of the world was pretty unstable after WW2, different to now where most of the big powers are pretty well-established. So it's quite possible there doesn't have to be a literal movement to keep neutral; they can just not pipe up about the issue.
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@MsHarunaMoon We tried aligning with the Arabs initially when Israel was born. The Arabs chose the USSR instead. If we stop "propping up" Israel, we won't get anything for it be scorn. So basically; the US has zero incentive to stop.
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@abraham2172 Yu do realize that both sides are guilty of this, right? And this is hardly a US-only issue since many populations believe a lot of garbage to what's convenient to them? Lord knows I've seen many Germans screeching about the US being a bully about Nord Stream 2...and then conveniently forgetting that they're doing it against the wishes of most of the EU and it was the other EU members that called on the US to help stop it. Convenient little facts that people omit for their politics.
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@abraham2172 Psht, this is an ignorant take based on an American centric world view. Populism from the likes of Trump is hardly new in either the world or the West; multiple nations are going through their own versions. You really need to check out other national medias and see how deep the division is worldwide, and it isn't just the right-wing either.
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@abraham2172 Oof, dude. Just oof.
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