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Comments by "Joe Kelsoe II" (@nsahandler) on "When 200IQ Lawyers Destroy Corrupt Cops" video.
@arl_wins I don't think she was bluffing my dude. She ran over random people and then looked the officer in the eye and said "no you don't get it you need to charge me with Murder" The fact of the matter is that you CAN'T COMMIT YOURSELF in the US. You have to pay for that. She probably DID try to commit herself but was given the Catch-22 (this is actually where the phrase came from): "If you were insane, you wouldn't be telling us you were insane. If you are telling us that you are insane because you recognize your insanity, then you are not insane enough to receive treatment." If she didn't tell him "no I ACTUALLY was trying to kill those people I need you to write all this down," she was trying to ensure that she would actually be committed like she needed to be. It's absolutely nuts that people can only get free mental Healthcare in the USA after committing a crime.
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@scumbaggo They are allowed to follow cars until there is a traffic infraction. They just can't do it day after day after day on a single subject Police officers have all the ability to drive their car down whatever street or road any other civilian does. It's just that they cannot continuously do it without a warrant (aka "continuous monitoring" aka "stake out").
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@makeitallgaming8396 It's not entrapment. Please stop saying big words to don't know the meaning of. Entrapment would be making someone criminally liable via coercion. An example would be if an officer took a stolen watch out of evidence, put it on FB Marketplace, sold it to you, then arrested you for receipt of stolen goods. Or targeted someone with no likelihood to commit a crime but in financial straights and offered them, say, a million dollars to give them a USB drive. The key is coercion. The only way you would ever be "entrapped" in a vehicle crime would be if the officer tried to run you off the road then pulled you over for swerving in your lane or passing yellow.
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@docbohemian1328 To be fair, a lot of people just don't go about getting officers charged in the correct district. Aka they shouldn't be going to a municipal, County, or even State Court. If a police officer ACTUALLY COMMITS A CRIME against you. Like full-fledged, no-doubt-about-it crime, you need to go to Federal Court and file the charges. No state (that I am aware of) has the charge of "under the color of law." It's 100% federal and makes any crime the officer (or any public official, actually) committed while identifying themselves or baring title into an automatic felony. People complain about cops getting slaps on the wrist but they don't know that they are complaining to the wrong people
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@shythawks9549 I am currently training for dispatch. I don't see any issue regarding officers running tags to make sure that they aren't walking up on a car from three states over that's on the run from a homicide. It's a solid preliminary check. Mainly because there have been situations where officers got complacent, walked up to get the tag and driver info, chill with the driver, and when the radio says "the tag is wanted for a homicide in Utah" within earshot of the driver, they just pull a gun and blew the officer away. It also gives them preliminary data on what to expect and ask a question about. Like "so is this your friends car?" Which is a perfectly fine question to ask. They don't have to answer it, but it's a nice quick reference. If my car got stolen and the dude we pulled over for a broken taillight and the officer DIDN'T RUN THE TAGS I would have been sour af. Whatever the officer does with that info is on them.
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@handsolo9556 "thank God for Mississippi"
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@Lou-pole He doesn't have to though. If someone came up to you on the street walking on the sidewalk and said "hey, what are you doing walking here?" Eff that guy. Mind your own business. If it was an officer they would have to have an ACTUAL reason to COMPEL you to treat them any differently than some random person on the road, and command you to stop. Once they command you to stop, then you are detained.
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@THE-X-Force 1) You have to be declared disabled to receive Medicare/Medicade coverage without having to come out of pocket for anything, 2) of all those "facilities" - only a handful are long-term inpatient facilities, and 3) there is not NEARLY ENOUGH for everyone who needs it. Most places are literally revolving door facilities where they give someone a prescription that they will have a hard time fulfilling or keeping up with due to their mental condition. Most people with serious mental issues end up homeless, then jailed for being homeless, and unable to make money to pay premiums on their medication
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As a paralegal, are you hiring? Jkjk But for real all you have to do is be reasonable and point out how absurd the officer's assumptions are. When you are talking to police - innocent or guilty - remember that you are not talking to a police officer. You are talking to the court. And your entire act is being caught on film. The only issue I really have with videos like this is that it leads to escalation WHEN THEY ASSERT RIGHTS THEY DON'T HAVE. Guarantee you that one jack-dawg here will think that being parked on the side of a busy freeway in their half-broken vehicle means that they don't have to show their license because the guy parked on a local municipal easement awaiting a customer didn't have to.
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The last one is sad. You can't get yourself committed in the US unless you commit a crime and are charged by a court to go there. If you try to commit yourself then you have to pay out-of-pocket. You can tell that she really doesn't want to hurt anyone and the fact that she copped up to her actual intent from her mental illness was the only way she could ensure that she was able to get unequivocally committed.
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@JohnFink-p5l detainment is a form of arrest without probable cause. Officers need probable cause and to give a lawful order to someone for a detention. Which is a good thing. We want officers to be able to stop people when there is actual reasonable suspicion (my friend from High School was cuffed and detained but he was wearing the same color shirt and pants as the people who'd just robbed a bank. He had prior run-ins with the police so he didn't take it personally). But they have to have that actual suspicion that someone committed, or is about to commit or is committing a crime in order to detain someone. If they do not have any of those factors then a detainment is an Unlawful arrest.
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@gabejohnson97 That is a YouTube prank I actually would like to see. Literally walking around like a cartoon villain with monopoly money in a big bag with an $$$ on the side. Not for a suit but for the lulz. Cops are still human. They'd get a kick out of it
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@arranmc182 Police officers get disqualified for having too high IQ This is not a joke. The claim unilaterally is "officer retention" aka "the smart people will get sick of this and quit." This was upheld in the year 2000 in the State of New York Appeals 2nd Circuit. This is not me trolling.
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@jeffmead4670 Under Color of Law is a Federal offense. People are just ignorant and don't go to the correct authorities to press charges. No States (that I am aware of) have the crime "under color of law." Go to a Federal Courthouse or a Federal Agency like the FBI then file the complaint. They have time. They will follow up.
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