Comments by "D. San" (@DSan-kl2yc) on "The Humanist Report"
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@alancook9780 That's what you guys don't get. It wasn't any group. That wasn't like the trump riot. It wasn't bound by an ideology. The riots that happened were like the 90s one. Spontaneous due to the anger of the people. We saw this before with the killing of Latasha Harlins and the 1992 Los angeles riot. The difference is just that many more killings happened near each other, across the country, that has much faster news and social networks. It was done by police, and it is part of the greater issue of police reform(the officers got off, or light punishment too), and racism since the issue hadn't been resolved from the 90s one. The right wing attempt to conflate that kind of riot is ridiculous.
It's like you're saying that since black people were involved, that it was BLM. When it just wasn't. BLM ALSO organized protests due to that being the nature of how they were formed. And people protested it in general, or joined them. But that is separate from the riots. I have no connection to BLM. But we've seen this kind of riot before. And it happened where I live. We were all aware. And you could even find protests organized that either stopped the riots or didn't let it start. BLM and other protestors were against it.
Who knows, maybe the protestors, and blm actually helped calm that down by giving people an avenue. Or it was the curfews, whichever, maybe both.
So unless you think BLM time travelled to be responsible for every angry riot that happens, it just doesn't make sense.
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@wewillwin24 you're lying to yourself. What we did is what we've always done.
Unless you're talking about altering the type of voting we do ect. There was nothing anamolous. There was nothing direct. The U.S would explore that, regardless of Trump.
Improving voting has nothing to do with giving it to Trump.
It comes down to this. Do you think that the majority of voters, voted for Biden? Are you trying to overturn the election?
Whatever problems the media has, in this case, all they did was report the numbers, and when it seemed conclusive, "call it", and the states eventually proved that right(or wrong ect). The media had nothing to do with this. So why try to scapegoat it. There are problems but this isn't one.
Deal with the flaws, tell people what they are. But do you think people voted for Biden in the current system or not. Because the results, as verified by each state, say yes. That's objective reality.
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They block themselves from seeing what they have in common. You can find people who like video games almost anywhere. People from other parts of the world might behave more like them, be religious like them, be personally conservative ect. They might be hard workers, or start business like them.
The person might have grown up in the U.S anyway.
I grew up and went to esol, and for the first couple of years in the U.S, I didn't hang out with other hispanic kids. At the time there weren't that many from other countries in esol(3 or 2). So I just made friends with other foreign kids. And once that wasn't an issue, I still did for awhile, koreans, chinese, cambodians, black, white. Eventually it wasn't an issue but especially among young kids grewing up in the U.S, there isn't some huge cultural gaps at all.
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@RasheedBarnes 1. “Reparations won't help anyone”
Do I really need to say why that’s a silly statement?
I’m not against universal programs."
THere's are reason universal programs are good. And that's because they are universal.
They don't require the kind of tribalism that seems rampant in america. There is no discussion of who's worthy. Or who to exclude.
And it's because you're so ingrained in the way America thinks, and such a white racist sort of way that you don't see the alternative.
It is not the same time period. Universal programs would help black people more than any unrealistic reparation
2. “No one has talked about compensating people at the border.”— https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWpfrxOuVSo
Almost no one is talking about that. And that is still a contemporary problem instead of one that's 155 years old.
And regardless of how long slavery was around, The U.S was only around as a country for 89 years during slavery.
Most wealth is in herited? How many immigrants are coming here with nothing.
5. If you don’t get why Americans are "hung up on it", you don’t know American history. Anti-Black racism is pervasive in every inch of American history, and at every moment—labor, religion, politics, entertainment, economics, education. By racism, I mean government policy and white terrorism--not just some jackass dropping n-bombs.
This has nothing to do with it. It's almost just like you're trying to punish long dead people for a symbolic victory.
Reparations would not change any existing racism. It would not help more than medicare for all or free further education and training.
6. - History isn’t the past. History is now. “Harms compound. Just like a dollar saved compounds in its value, so does a dollar stolen.” Well said, Mayor Pete. Still not voting for you.
This is definitely the past. You want reparations for specific things a century ago.
Everything else just isn't worthy of something like reparations because it was not the state. You don't get compensation for people generally being racist.
And this won't help that.
"Income and spending patterns among Black households
https://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-3/income-and-spending-patterns-among-black-households.htm
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What did you want me to see in this data because it seems very useless. Blacks would spend a lot on tobbaco? You won't get a sweeping change where suddenly they're rich. Change is slow. And money won't be the thing that does that. I've already seen the change. For the people that need help, we just need an avenue. Free healthcare would provide that.
What we get wrong about closing the racial wealth gap
https://socialequity.duke.edu/portfolio-item/what-we-get-wrong-about-closing-the-racial-wealth-gap/
Is the jist that blacks need more homeownership Because everyone is having a hard time with that anyway.
A specific problem to address everyone's homeownership or better wage(or stronger unions) would address this just as well.
You're not making a point if you just give out data without context. And this doesn't seem to have any answers either.
https://www.amazon.com/Color-Money-Black-Racial-Wealth/dp/0674970950
Again I don't even have access to this book so what is it's conclusion because all the synopsis says is that black banking won't do it. Something no one but pro blacks thinks is the answer.
7. “don't sacrifice the future to it. “
- We CAN cancel everyone’s student loans (disproportionally white)
And we'd give all blacks the ability to go to school easier and trade schools.
- We CAN give the military 750 billion annually (disproportionally white)
Something everyone is against. The only argument for it is that it bolsters the U.S' ability to be the superpower.
- We CAN allow the 100 most profitable companies pay no taxes (overwhelmingly white)
Something people complain about with severity and we're trying to change.
And adding the word overwhelmingly white is just annoying. The point is to integrate.
- We CAN give everyone health care (universal)
Yes, we can, and it would help black americans much more. Or we could use that money to give to a small number of the total population so that they can feel better about their own government. Even tho most blacks don't even care about this issue.
- We CAN spend 100 billion dollars on a space station (disproportionally white)
How the fuck can the space station be white. Which space station are you talking about. And that is unrelated and I'll presume scientific. Now you're against the medicine that would help black people. Or the cars that they'll drive.
- We can’t pay African Americans what they’re owed which would be good for the economy
though not for the racial hierarchy.
Let me tell you a harsh truth. They aren't owed it. It's a sad fact that they aren't.
THe U.S randomly decided to make a promise. And like a lot of it's promises, it really half assed it.
BUt it wasn't a document. It's not how anything works though. It can even be argued that the U.S didn't even promise it.
And the people that might have been owed it are long dead.
The language you use to this makes it sound like you obviously want it as a sort of ego thing. You don't want the other minorities involved. It's all very race base.
You can consider all universal programs the same as reparations. You can consider affirmative action the same as reparations.
And I know the right talking point that will be used. That black americans have already used much more than any proposed plan via welfare services.
It'd be like asking the egyptians for reparations to the jews. Or asking africans to reparate other africans.
8. "You aren't a slave here" - Most private wealth is inherited. Much of it dates back to the new deal and homestead acts. Black people were sharecroppers and "not a slave" until the 1960s. What does that even mean?
It means no one alive was witnessed to slavery. And again, just racism is not cause for reparations. And it means that immigrants come here all the time with no inherited wealth. THere is a cycle of poverty people can be stuck in.
Why address it only for blacks tho?
On the arguement for it is the fact that the jews did get reparations(but only the ones that suffered the holocaust). And as you mentioned that I didn't know about, Native americans to some extent. And Internment camps. On the other hand one of those was more modern. And involved fewer people. And those people lost something that wasn't theoretical.
Like I've said, I'm not against it. It could be a powerful act to do so. But it won't help black people as much as universal programs would. Or it would take from these universe programs. Some people want these programs only applied to black people ect.
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