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Comments by "D. San" (@DSan-kl2yc) on "West Chester police were told a shoplifting suspect was white. They stopped a Black man" video.
@ryanhayes38 bullshit. He answered their questions. He had every right to be frustrated over being targeted for no reason.
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@tambert3897 they racially targeted him for no reason. And he did as they asked anyway. So moot point.
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@tambert3897 describing it as aggressive is such a dirty trick. Because the implication could mean he was going to attack when he wasn't. He had every right to act as he did over this police blunder and gross action.
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@RealMcLovin the people were armed. The fact we're dealing with armed people with deadly weapons means his life was at risk, when it wasn't before, on a mistake that had nothing to do with him.
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@RealMcLovin yes they are. For one, this mistake could happen in much more dire circumstances, and no reason to think it won't. And yes, the police can be dangerous. The police thinking badly of you can be dangerous. This man who wasn't being harassed by police, is suddenly being harassed by them. Which situation is more dangerous? Also stats on guns is somewhat related. Obviously gun violence is more likely to acquire where there are more armed people. So yes, armed people are more of a danger. And police are more of a danger confronting somebody than not being there confronting somebody.
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@tambert3897 they didn't act professional by harassing him though. Being calm doesn't excuse it. Them not killing the guy doesn't undo the mistake. They didn't even double check. That's sloppy. They should acknowledge it. And you should too. And then you should be apologetic. And they should be. Empathetic and apologetic. Saying sorry without meaning it doesn't amount to anything. What's even the issue here if you admit their mistake? The guy is justified. If they admit his mistake then they should admit he's justified in his frustration.
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@ryanhayes38 you're mistaken. They did something that shows a racial bias. And you're claiming it's not. The action exist on camera. The burden is on you to proof it's not racial bias. Not us to proof it is. It's documented that he approach a black guy for no reason when the suspect was white. Now all you have is that he somehow misheard it but you don't know he did. They don't even say that, he just says that guys looking at me. In any case the burden on you is to prove your point, always. Our point has the proof of the documented incident.
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@ryanhayes38 you're not demonstrating innocent into proven guilty. You're demonstrating denial. Aside from the fact we have it documented. And that if you want it declared innocent it has to go to court. But you're denying there's an issue in the first place. You want it dismissed. That's not presumption of innocense. And two, we know he's guilty of the actions. You're point is the deniability that he forgot what the dispatch was, vs him having a racial bias he demonstrated. Or the possibility he'd have done it to anyone. Now how are you going to prove either of the two that would make your point?
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@ryanhayes38 they have gotten away with it. And you're defending them. Literally they went after the first black man he saw, and connected eyes with(his own admission), on site.
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@ryanhayes38 it's crazy you admit that there's tension but don't question why. It's because people do racist stuff. Because there are racial biases. Yes he did that. And falling into plausible deniability as an excuse like you're trying. But the situation bears reiterating. They knew the suspect was a different skin color, age, and dress color. And targeted someone who didn't fit any of that. Who they just happened to see. For no reason.
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@shebella4561 that was not an honest mistake. An honest mistake is stopping a black guy to ask questions when the description matches him and his clothes. Not when it doesn't match either.
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@tambert3897 when you make a mistake, you don't blame the other personike you're doing. You recognize you are at fault.
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@tambert3897 you're denying the possibility it's racial bias when that is both the most likely and what looks what happened because they misunderstood white and black. And knew they had no reason to approach.
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@ryanhayes38 they went after the wrong person, that's on them. You can't turn around and blame the unrelated person for the cops actions. Any delay is on the cops for following that avenue. What about the cops letting the guy get on with his day. They're the ones in the wrong, bothering someone. It's crazy how your brain flips this.
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@ryanhayes38 you're situation isn't the same and doesn't matter. They knew they were looking for a white guy. And harassed literally the first black guy they saw. They knew the clothes he had and decided to harass someone that was wearing different colored clothes that happened to be the first black man they saw. And they knew his age, that wasn't this man, and decided to harass the first black man they saw.
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@ryanhayes38 we literally know, we hear the dispatch. They knew it wasn't that guy because everything they knew about the suspect didn't match. And they had no reason to think it was that man. Like yes that's evidence. You need evidence for and against. They have evidence for knowing it wasn't that man. And they have no evidence to think it was.
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@ryanhayes38 it doesn't matter if it was blatant racism or racist bias. It doesn't matter if the guy is only mildly racist. You're so against the idea it could be just because you feel offended when people say a white person is racist. You take it to mean all of them instead of that specific cop. That cop had no reason to think that guy did it.
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@ryanhayes38 no Ryan, racism isn't always extreme like that. That's no an argument. Racial bias is also a form. It's been proven that when cops can see into cars they'll tend to target black drivers and when they can't, they don't.
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@ryanhayes38 are you saying if you were a cop, and someone told you to go arrest this white person, you'd instead try to arrest the first black person you see? I mean I believe you.
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@ryanhayes38 the guy did comply.
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@ryanhayes38 you can't decide it wasn't blatant when he literally went for the first black man he made eye contact with instead of anyone possibly matching the description. In every category he was wrong. And he had no reason to suspect the guy even if he had no information of the description. So I don't know how you can say there isn't something blatant.
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