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That dude is an American. This is from a clip amongst Americans. The US has been against Israel's actions.
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@MrNintoku The Palestinians were the vast majority. The split favored the Jewish settlers. And yes they were settlers. It was a campaign for moving there as a whole. None of that made sense. They were right to complain. The British also realized what militant A-holes the Jewish settlers were and gave up on doing it. The palestinians were right to complain. The split was unfair and unnecessary and bewildering to any modern notion. Why not give Israel 1/3rd the land. Why not make them an autonomous zone or state within Palestine. The way Israel developed is baffling. Imagine if in the US or any American country, the people developed their national identity and when they were about to make a country, you give over 50% of the land to a specific group within the broader group, just because of their religion. When that group is a minority. They don't have much land to begin with too. Then there's the fact that the land designated for Israel had a majority Palestinian populace. It's effing baffling. I can believe the statesmen that screwed Palestine over so much, this Palestine / Israel thing. Look at the history and everyone was baffled by the British saying that they would do this because it was such an out of nowhere thing. UK was split on it, they were confused about why they're even doing it. The only thing that would have been justified was giving them 1/3rd the land in an autonomous zone. They didn't take the majority of the populace into account. Favoring a small group of extremist settlers. The vast majority of the Jewish people that became Israelies were foreign settlers. No one can deny Zionism. That was a clear intent to immigrate and promote immigration. They weren't all Europeans though. Some people exaggerate that. Anyway that was the past. We need to make plans with the people that exist now. That terrible stuff can't be undone. But it was terrible. Horrible decisions, with terrible consequences, imperialism, ethnic cleansing, and essentially reservations.
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We're all teachers and students ECT. But it's important for it to be pointed out. And eventually, for something to be done. This is the mildest of things and you have comments talking about taking over the UK over this. Instead of looking at the demonstrable abuse that happened. Sticking together can be admirable. But not when it's nonsensical. Not when it's about wrongs. Not when it's about ignorance. People sticking together to do wrong things are a gang or cartel. There's no debate on Qatar's issues. And there's nothing to defend them on here. Only argument would be people saying that they'll take steps to improve. You have to acknowledge the issue for it. Without trying to turn it around and say it's an attack because trying to pull that off just comes off as trying to hide and obfuscate the issue.
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@Sardarji-bq6oj they are as native as the ancient Israelies. And are more native than immigrant Jewish people.
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Would that give Qatar better human rights? It wouldn't change the issue. Like why don't you guys ask them to do better.
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@fessali5726 repeat what rhetoric. Human rights groups? My own conclusion when I learned about it years and years ago. This whataboutism is deflection of the issue. Criticize every country when it really does something bad. Don't use that as deflection for Qatar. Look at the criticism of Qatar. Judge it, judge as if it was done to you and your people. Judge by what the people who've suffered it have said. Don't ignore it because you dislike some unrelated country or countries.
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@tigerblood888 which is still not that.
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@leftoverpizza01 People can criticize more than one thing at once. As I explained how that works. China gets it's criticism. The people who were getting exploited by Qatar weren't some white people. I can bet you that any middle eastern person or Arab from around here would agree. And I think any would that wasn't being defensive and sensitive about it. If they've really improved it was probably that criticism that helped push those changes. Edit: if you say it has support you're literally agreeing with everyone. So there's no issue. You agree with the people you call "the west".
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@raihanrusli2720 you can criticize all of them. Why bring it up instead of Qatar's issues? People talk about Israel this past year or two. People have talked about china's various human rights abuses and protests. Are you bringing it because you care about those issues or to obfuscate? Because you're ignoring Qatar's issues. And I don't watch the BBC but it seems they aired the world cup. This is about some subway ads.
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I think they want change. But not regime change by Israel, especially via bombs. Who knows what Iranians want when they aren't given much choice.
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@Free_Falastin2024 no one's trying to incite a coup. It's crazy for you to not support your own people I presume, having a say. And not being oppressed.
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Don't fool yourself. No one cares compared to what they've done to migrants. And obviously it's a dangerous idea for gay people to visit.
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What about compassion for the people that didn't do that, but are getting destroyed for being in the same national group.
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@leftoverpizza01 Well you're wrong. Colonizers and colonized are intermixed so that's stupid. I've noticed from a lot of these comments that people don't understand how human rights work. People critique, complain, they bring about change. Then the government is changed from it. These countries aren't expecting more. They're expecting less, to equal to them. So you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how human rights operate at a state/country level and internationally. The criticism comes from the people that Qatar made suffer first. Picked up by human rights organizations. Then the media. Then the people that learn about it. Before trickling to the country proper. Alternatively it already breaks some law, which is found out in a similar way indicated except it's picked up by a larger governmental organization like the UN ECT. Which then does its own investigation. The idea that no one can criticize before "x". Is stupidly flawed and wrong, and misunderstands how change has ever happened in any of these countries themselves, and the world. And if you have criticism towards these countries than you should be happy that they are actually advocating for the correct thing.
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@tiestokygoericprydz3963 Terrific. Ask yourself if the criticism is deserved, is legitimate. I guess all the victims are also western now. The labels don't matter. It's a distraction. A bad name since it has stigma to you. They want you to get flared up instead of look at the issues themselves. Edit: You realize that you just said that everyone who is for human rights is the west, and two. Admitting that it isn't specifically western countries simultaneously.
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Whether they were colonialist or not, they're not leaving except in the same way an EU country population might. They're there to stay to some extent. The solutions need to take that into account. It's why I favor a one country, two state federation or confederation. Both view it as their land. Might as well give access to both. But with equal protection and self determination. Or scare the Israelies with it enough for a two state solution.
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@cuckoospider111 middle Eastern countries are weak and chaotic, and insanely self centered. Some are downright awful. I wouldn't wish that on the palestinians either. I don't wish Hamas on them. That would be a side ways move. And who's to say some of them wouldn't land grab. I just wouldn't count on them. This will be resolved globally. It was a global issue that caused it. And it would benefit Palestinians that way the most
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@Trutsetyoufree755 If the conclusion is correct, then the conclusion is correct.
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No it wouldn't. UN is in the Palestinian state position overall. The US has not threatened UN. Blinken didnt say anything like that. The UN is incredibly important for the very world standard the US wants.
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