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@frid00000 meaningless speech is part of freedom of speech like your comment and mind. Disrespect is part of freedom of speech, like your comment, and hopefully mine. And assange divulged state information. People want him pardoned because whistle blowing is important.
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 @СергейМонин-д7с rich, coming from someone justifying a bunch of Russian land seizures.
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 @Worselol and Russia could have been another US or Germany. But soon it's going to be another north korea
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 @pulse77 everyone's well read on it. And it's obviously Russia who attacked first.
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 @annaignatochkina3438 I'm sure that's true because you had friends and family. But as a state, it wasn't the best.
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 @MrZlocktar everyone would rather live in Finland than Russia. That's the funny thing.
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 @Sepultor99 Russia literally stole Crimea, and is trying to steal 4 regions from Ukraine now.
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@Pampaza it's between 20-30% ethnically Russia. Since they are all Ukranians, and it's Ukranian territory, Russia was the one invading them. .more specifically, Russian backed parties turned into Russian backed militias that overthrew the civilian and democratic government. And installed a junta.
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@НатальяТерехова-с6х You talk about outdated dogmas while Russia is subscribing to pre WW2 ideas about imperialism and expansionism. Some people flat out saying they can revoke a country'd independence. And it wasn't Russia that defeated the nazi's, but multiple countries working together.
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 @Sepultor99 in other words, you invaded other countries territories and stole their land.
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 @НатальяТерехова-с6х china has nukes right next to Russia's borders. NATO isn't threatening the world with Nukes every 5 minutes, or ever.
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@Sepultor99 Few people are with you. Try to understand why people are against an invasion to take another country's territory for yourself. And just in general subjugate that country. Because you don't like who they in general are making friends with. It wasn't NATO, it wasn't even the US. Russia flipped out that Ukraine wanted to be more like the EU.
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 @kam2894 poor victimized Russia.
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@Sepultor99 you don't decide by invading people from a country that isn't democratic.. Russia isn't a democracy. It admits it. They call it a managed democracy or an illiberal democracy. And you didn't respect Ukraine's democracy, by stealing their land.
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 @СергейМонин-д7с Russia already was an empire and imperialist. It's weird that it's going back it. Yea Russia is the bad guy here.
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@annebomba Let me point out the obvious. If Russia didn't want it's eastern neighbors joining NATO, all it had to was make sure they didn't see Russia as a threat. But it couldn't do that. Because Russia is bad at geopolitics. Don't blame others for that. It didn't have the economic leverage to persuade or threaten either. And it was a continual threat. NATO wanted to have a working relationship with Russia. But Russia made that impossible. Because Russia is bad at this. NATO didn't have to be a threat to Russia. Russia is good at propaganda. But it's tactics really are bribes and threats. The bribes wouldn't be bad if it was giving a country money. But it bribes politicians under the table, which is just corrupting a country, and destabilizing it. That's not neighborly. So see it from the perspective of Georgia or Ukraine, this threat is threatening them, destabilizing them, corrupting them, and complaining that it can't dictate their country. Russia's big complaint is that it can't dictate to the "west" and it can't dictate to eastern countries. And that's justification for this. Not anyone actually doing anything to Russia. And let me point out something obvious. The "west" let Russia get away with a lot trying to bend itself over for a relationship. Russia's "issues" are ego trips.
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@juliagordeeva4545 Freedom and economic well being are not the same thing. But by that token , the economy being bad isn't because democracy and freedom are bad. Those are policy choices. But it's a huge mistake to give power to someone who would never give them back for the promise of economic prosperity. Because as we've established, democracy won't tank the economy. So all you have to do is choose someone with a good plan. But the tyrant you give power to, won't give it back. The tyrant will take away your choice forever. Even if they tank the economy. A bad democratic leader will pass.
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 @Sepultor99 you're deluding yourself. And using that as an excuse to keep expanding through militaristic force.
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Honestly just seems like they're descending into conspiracy theories
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@annebomba No one is gas lighting Russia. You're talking about unquantifiables. Other than geopolitical, which means Russia dictates to countries. For one, economic power translates to strength in all aspects, so they'd have more geopolitical influence. China's power has been almost entirely economical, and they knew that. No one tries or affected Russia's spirituality. And the creativity thing is perhaps the most delusional. What does it even mean? In what way? Just random crap for you to feel better. Russia is just bad at geopolitics. And it lacked the strength for it anyway except through force.
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 @volga71 there's no single place that's a Utopia
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 @TheCaptainSlappy ha are you saying there's a third army there That doesn't even make sense
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@LIfeSavingFlame Do you guys forget that we're on the internet? Someone else asked if so I still have a page from amnesty. Here's a short bit of it: Such pressure also led to the cancellation of concerts, exhibitions and other events by cultural figures who expressed dissenting views. Some, including rock musician Yuri Shevchuk and rapper Oxxxymiron, were fined for “discreditation” of the armed forces. Others, including rock musician Andrey Makarevich and writer Dmitry Bykov, were declared “foreign agents”. In April, the chief editor of Khakassia-based media website Novyi Focus, Mikhail Afanasyev, was detained pending trial for “disseminating deliberately false information” about the armed forces.
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@Sepultor99 Ukrainian government didn't refuse it. They followed it. They shouldn't have had to because it wouldn't have even happened if Russia hadn't organized, and supplied it, and then interfered militarily. But they followed it... But then Russia didn't follow it. And Russia didn't put pressure on their proxies and agents in control of the renegade militants to follow it. And then it made no sense, and the deal fell apart.
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@annebomba I gotta come back to this because you don't make sense. how can any country be an accountant or a poet? It's just a place to live, where people do stuff. What has Russia done differently economically whether western countries are there? But the craziest thing is thinking that any country cares if Russia is poetic or not. No one was dictating something like that. Is every shop owner a poet? The fact you think Russia is more creative than the every country west of Russia is nuts. And it's crazy that you're trying to turn good relations into a negative. How can Russia have any good relations with any country if it's such a spiritual hindrance. I mean china is officially atheist. You gotta understand how it doesn't make sense. Art tends to thrive in surplus periods. These countries helped Russia do what it already would do. Like there's no logic or reason to what you're saying. Only exception is that the west is less religious... Maybe. Though the Russians killed God last century.... The communist state was also atheist. And east Asians are also less religious ( more so than the west). And Russia's great enemy is probably the most religious developed western country... So that obviously doesn't matter to Russia.
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@НатальяТерехова-с6х the Canadian thing proves the complete opposite. Everyone admits it was wa mistake based on not knowing anything about the guy. You'd have to be purposefully ignorant to not see that. Like someone else said, Russia also fought alongside the nazi's at one point. So stop it and recognize what's happening now.
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@bizzle1879 It's not a gift. Sovereignty is not a gift. Independence is not a gift. And when someone is given, ownership is transferred. Ukraine wasn't a threat. It never threatened Russia. This is important: Russia threatened Ukraine, and keeps attacking it!
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@annebomba no it is not western thinking. It's just factual. More money equals better leverage and more military spending. It is a fact. Not a way of thinking. Nor am I some capitalist who thinks money is the best. It is just a fact. If Russia wanted more geopolitical power, then money was a non aggressive way of doing it, and it was helping it. You said Russia wanted more geopolitical power and I pointed out that economic power is tied to that. I didn't say it's some goal. I stated a fact. China is powerful right now because of it's economics. Whatever else leads to your fake idea of strength has nothing to do with a state's power. This wasn't some cultural thing. But a cold hard fact of a state's abilities.
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 @yellowtunes2756 we know what it is. Russia is fascistic. Zelensky had nothing to do with the guy at parliament.
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Really feel bad for the Belarusian people. They don't seem deluded. Calling it an occupation is interesting.
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 @АлександрДухин-р3ц if there's one thing I can guess with some certainty. Is that neither you, nor the Russian government, cares much about what the people of the region want.
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 @Dudush90 "I'm not pro Russian but here's all these pro Russian narrative "
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@Sepultor99 Ha you're going by numbers instead of country. Russia is literally attacking a country for no good reason right now. Like as we both type. But yeah, I'm sure other authoritarian countries might support Russia. NATO hasn't done much in the middle east. Russia has actually done more. But let's look into this. Only Syria isnt against Russia. 2 abstained. 1 absent. All the other middle eastern countries condemned it.
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 @lelouchvibritannia2300 You can hate the US to kingdom come but its insane to put it in the same position as north korea or russia, which is what that other commenter is attempting.
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 pjdu5yifutd how is that bipolar? He's talking about two separate things. And a Russian bot is not liberal.
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@Cryptech1010 most don't even think things are good. But they seem to have no hope for it to improve. Only wish for it not to get worse. But they're too scared or apathetic to take a chance on someone improving it Logically if it's gotten worse during Putin, maybe keeping him is a bad idea.
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@annebomba Countries west of Russia did nothing or specify anything. Russia sells what it wants. Those countries were just buyers. And invested in Russia as a market. Russia is still doing that without the west. It just has fewer buyers and less options. And worst rules. This isn't about dictating. You're switching what you were talking about mid way. That's going back to Russia's politics. Which you ignore is bad for the countries around Russia. You're asking for them not to have opportunities.
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@laikon7447 he might be the cause. Well him and similar people. Ukraine and Georgia are trying to avoid, with some success, being like Russia. Putin is part of the cause. And he's been the driver of it for a long time.
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@ElSquadRider ignoring politics is part of the problem that leads to dictators. What will lead to war is letting people like that rise. And what people need is awareness of at least the major issues, and to participate.
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Why does she think the other states broke off Couldn't have been that good except for a deluded person who had it nice
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@devansa125 it's sad how you think. And we're sad for you, along with bewildered by the craziness. Especially since countries have been trying not to harm Russia, except the country currently being assaulted by them, in their robbery and murder attempt.
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@Ole_Lukoje71 ha let's keep playing it. Let's say one of your neighbors pulls a gun on another, and wants to illegally sell your house to someone, that they don't own, and you live in. Do you have the right to defend yourself and call the police or not.
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@Ole_Lukoje71 I know full well of that accident. And I know full well you'll pretend it was something other than that. Some protestors attacked people doing a rally and barricaded themselves, while throwing bombs, and potentially, accidentally set themselves on fire. A clash that they started and escalated, and 2/3rds of the people tried to help them evacuate. It was a tragic accident. But you're trying to frame it in the dumbest way possible.
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@creativeandaliveat65 and no one knows which is which since you talked so vaguely to fill in a bias. But in Russia, it's a criminal enterprise and not a democracy. So go cry while learning context.
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 @loumcast the US didn't leave Iraq in ruins. Iraq is doing great. The US given that government support this whole time.
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@CloneDAnon and that's not what happened either. . Chechnya is an example of what Russia would do when a legitimate group wants to leave. The insurgency in the donbas wasn't even legitimate. They took over the civil government by force. And were organized by Russia with Russia agents.
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 @Zz_Mike-Hawk_zZ a 10 month old account that praises Russia's invasion of a country that did nothing to it. Okay. Very Italian of you.
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 @bizzle1879 did you go around copy and pasting this. The woman didn't even say that. Stop putting words in her mouth.
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 @NewOrleansSeptember Ukraine is fighting because it was invaded. These are it's current borders. That Russia has trespassed
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@Florentino Perez really revealing the fake nature of your account "Florentine Perez".
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@imperium_vox NATO didn't have to be against Russia. Russia decided to be against NATO. Russia didn't have to harass a country that hasn't harassed it, leading to tens of thousands of dead. Russia is not justified. Russia is the hostile one here. Not NATO. Russia is hostile to it's people. Russia is hostile to it's neighbors.
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 @ares8866 there's a whole industry of people with different opinions. And then a second industry on media platforms of people with far out ideas.
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 @yellowtunes2756 why are you expecting the victim to give up? And seem okay with Russia murdering people for "no good reason"
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that one guy "someone else could be worst" they could be better too. But that idea isn't entertained.
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 @hist_ he probably just isn't working with them currently.
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 @lucone2937 I had the same thought. Plus outside of Russia, a lot of it seems underdeveloped
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They're in an alternate universe than us. And we probably seem equally weird.
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I think a lot of them were against nuclear option, and that's a positive. It is sad how unwilling they are to admit defeat, or just realize it's not a war worth winning. They shouldn't focus on defeat so much as stopping it. Quitting, walking away is fine.
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@RamMohammadJosephKaur you're saying the US has the right to invade Ukraine so that Russia doesn't get it? That's what you're saying, that countries can invade each other when the other does something one doesn't like. That's barbarism. "Europe has a right to invade Russia because Russia is trying to expand closer." Russia really is expansionist. NATO is people joining a defense pact.
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@Naschira Genocide isn't about how successful the attempt is. It's about the goal. Trying to kill a specific group of people, erase a national identity, language ect. You have to want to destroy that nation/ethnicity, or the idea of it. I'm not calling it(I'll leave that to experts). But the idea that it's genocide is based on comments of how Putin and his regime talk and look at Ukraine and Ukranian identity. And in what context that puts the various war crimes in.
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@everready800 No one could go around saying that Ukraine was fascist before the invasion. Ukraine was slightly better than Russia in most humanitarian metrics. In other words, Russia is closer to fascism than Ukraine. If you go by their politics, Ukraine is much further away than Russia from fascism.
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 @Lesyenka you understand but still ignore it. As someone said, Russia's arrogance is insane for what they are and what they think they're doing.
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@СергейМонин-д7с and 71% of crimeans considered Ukraine their motherland and yet Russia invaded. This is not Russia's issue and not an excuse for their invasion. 90% of students studied in Russian before the invasion so this wasn't even an issue. 99% studied Russian as a subject. You're complaining about a non issue.
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@FrOsTIIDeAtH the simple solution is that they're different people and you're jumbling them up in your mind. Though it's entirely possible to lose and regain hope. And possible it's used as a phrase. And possible it's momentary expression of their feelings. But the most likely is as I said, that they are millions of people and each one is a different one, and you're creating a blob in your mind instead of treating them as individuals.
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 @zanzan2738 man this is nuts. Countries apply and get rejected. They have to follow plans. What you're saying makes no sense. You have to know that.
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@Dr.Pancho.Tortilla racist troll
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 @corvus4135 yea They should. Otherwise it's just Russia being provocative. If cancer was a thing everyone willingly entered that has helped formed peace in that continent.
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@РусланЗаурбеков-з6е Mark Twain was always critical. That's why people quote him. He hated what the US did in the Phillipines for example. And allowing criticism is how countries improve.
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@tesakpetuh Russia doesn't qualify for NATO. And Russia didn't want to seriously join it. And this shows how bad it would have been. The ambitions of Putin are anathema to NATO. Ukraine didn't get to join it. And they ve been far more willing to work on themselves and establish their democracy.
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 @Imaxxd22 and if not, he has people stop by in a car and shoot them. Or jail them.
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@bizzle1879 we already have that information. Crimeans considered themselves UKRANIAN. A survey was done before the invasion. And the donbas being Ukranian is not even disputed "historically". Maybe you should have waited for some actual information on it, instead of Russian trying to create it after the fact.
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 @bizzle1879 ha you think that. Sad. Europe and the US will probably help Ukraine. In a few decades, Ukraine will be doing better than Russia.
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@Dobroslav_Belykh having an issue doesn't make one less of a person or anything. Stop trying to discredit him in multiple comments.
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 @MsNinich Russia's goal is clearly not an equal world.
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there's always someone in these that thinks the solution is patriotism. We just need more of it. Just will enough patriotism, and somehow everything will be alright. With enough patriotism, even blue will become red.
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@MrDaiseymay Like I Said, people put the whistle blowing above but he in fact did divulge classified info. It's not like he just said something. Some opinion. That's the distinction that's important.
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@yellowtunes2756 the land doesn't belong to only those people, but all people. Crimea didn't have a choice. Donbas didn't have a choice. Russia took over. You don't hold someone hostage and then make them vote to be taken hostage. Taiwan is not PRC territory anymore than South Korea is North Korea's.
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@yellowtunes2756 before 2014 is the only time we have information of what people wanted. No Nazis overthrew any government that year as far as I know. The Ukranian government remained the same. One politician left and got replaced. Nothing indicates that the will of the donbas people were obeyed or followed by the militants or Russia. Especially after Russia and the militants turned it into a war Zone.
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 @yellowtunes2756 giving countries their freedom is what's best. And not taking it over. Or stealing land.
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@Naschira you talk nonsense and don't see it. Ukraine isn't yours. The concept of people not wanting their country to become a puppet or a dictatorship has become foreign to you. Ukraine didn't want their country to go down that path. They already had the policy for EU. They actually stood up for their democracy. There's no justification for taking whatever issues you have, out on Ukraine.
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@natasa8266 this is stupid. No situation will be exact. And Russia trying to create a fake or artificial Kosovo scenario is too obvious. NATO didn't try to create a scenario to then invade to then grab land. If you think Russia is wrong, why defend them in this situation that NATO isn't a party to, and is about Russia invading Ukraine? It's not the same situation. And it doesn't even matter.
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 @FreeTheDonbas it's absolutely bonkers the lack of self awareness in your comment.
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@АлександрДухин-р3ц it did and does. And the people didn't vote because you can't hold an election with foreign invaders occupying and displacing people, during an invasion. Those lands weren't even fully controlled by those militants who don't represent the people. And Russia claimed two non separatist extra areas.
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@АлександрДухин-р3ц a gun to your head isn't a formality. You don't have the opinion of the people. The militants didn't ask for it. Russia didn't ask for it. Russia doesn't hold fair or free elections in its own countries. You ask for these things before you take over, and overthrow the government. Because the elected government is what represents people.
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@qlfkafkafrq only 15% voted for Russia at the time. And before then there was almost no support for such a thing in politics.
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@ИринаЛукьяненко-ь3ъ it was half the lowest ever in Ukraine. And less by almost 20% than the lowest ever recorded in Crimea before. Meaning a lot of voters were intimidated about voting. One could theorize people were scared to vote against the invaders. where the invaders would know and use it against them(like arrest them or kill them). Or generally scared that violence would break out between armies. And even then, half of the people that did turned up, voted against Russia.
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Guess that's why a free press is also needed
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@Bilangumus there were no Russian civilians there. And I'm sure people have told you multiple times that the fighting in Ukraine even then, was due to Russia.
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@thomaslacornette1282 Look at what Ukraine did that Russia didn't do. For one, they minded their own business. And two, they tried being friendly and improving. The citizens protested and demonstrated for their democracy. But most importantly, they just didn't do anything to be attacked by Russia.
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@nrocirpactar5697 a flawed one is better than no democracy
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 @АлександрДухин-р3ц Russia did seize Crimea..Russia invaded it.
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@СергейМонин-д7с amother non point. It ranks higher than Russia in anti corruption and higher democratic values. Why would s country want to be dragged back down into corruption and fascistic authoritarianism
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@СергейМонин-д7с you're a master at not having a point. It just doesn't matter. Russia gave up on its democracy. And Ukranians have shown strong support for theirs. It's why they want to lean towards EU/West. What does that other crap have to do with a sovereign country? Nothing.
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@dbadagna where you form? In the US there were debates and accusations of which constituted being patriotic, to criticize or pride regardless. It dominated politics and political discussion. There was criticism between governments and debates ect. You talk as if you have no sense of the time during that Iraq era.
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 @zanzan2738 this is your projection.
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Putin's people, everyone 70 and up.
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 @СергейМонин-д7с desperately throwing words in their mouth. Accept the truth
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 @Илья-у1ю to not it's lands then.
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@CloneDAnon you have it backwards. The president at the time took away the people's voice and they protested.
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 @mazellovvvrofls1587 If by time you mean the state repressing him in a totalitarian manner
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@Jericho19111 heh how very unbelievable that the very divisive candidate that people shat on for 4 years and comes from the unpopular party that people have made fun of for decades lost. US election was seen as very transparent. Some things were recounted even.
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It's a lovely sentiment. Wish her the best. But those people, the anti people, have all the power of the state. And they've crushed dozens upon dozens of political opposition. It'll be an uphill battle. It's amazing she's willing to try it.
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@Vatu. that's a lie anyway. They weren't more related to Russia. At least not more than they were related to Ukraine. You have to understand that it was a minority that militarily took over. Centered from Moscow.
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@rickkinsman7400 nah she specifically dismantled the pro Putin arguments succinctly like when she slapped the economic need for Putin down.
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They have this fantasy that the US did even though the issue was for closer ties to EU, how corrupt their president was, and the very real fear of ending up like Belarus.
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It's not unusual for young people to not be into politics. But people are still opinionated usually. I get the feeling that they say that to avoid some hard truths in Russia.
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It's like they live in an alternate universe where Ukraine is attacking Russia right now. And apparently, it's not Ukraine but people controlling it.. and also the west are siding with Nazis for some reason... And a country that is autocratic, nonfunctional democracy is fighting fascists... That last guy is an honest imperialist
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@Imaxxd22 and none of that is suspicious to you? Especially since as you claim, they didn't want them. And it's not suspicious that Russia has done this two times previously? It's absolute bull.
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@yellowtunes2756 multiple sources from multiple different sources, from multiple different affiliationa is equivalent to a state that controls its media. A state that outlaws non affiliated media that doesn't follow the party line. That oppresses dissent.
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Two weirdos that drank red pill koolaid. Two people from a country poorer than Russia or so. And a random english teacher who's definitely trying to leave and was there for the culture.
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Osce More concerned for Belarus than Lukashenko
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The sass, that was great. Reality came in at the end when someone yelled they could be jailed.
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@Ole_Lukoje71 we're talking about one incident that yes, was an accident. The clash was the result of antagonism. But not towards some innocent pro Russians who were minding their own business. The pro Russians went there to fight. And escalated the situation by bringing firearms and fire bombs. Them lighting where they were on fire doesn't mean that they didn't jump out windows because it obviously wouldn't have been on purpose. While the situation was tense, and some were violent. Others, the vast majority, tried to help evacuate.
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@Elena-il3tu Only Russia is to blame. No one did anything to Russia.
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@Naschira People did too much trying to be friendly to Russia. But worst case scenario is that those countries wanted nothing to do with them. They would have left Russia alone.
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 @klas7988 Ukraine wasn't in control of it.
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Oppressive regimes/candidates love that disengagement. Less work for them.
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@AntonSobyanin because there's no black people in Russia. And little diversity outside of immediate eurasians that are part of the country. Perhaps it's because of all of our histories dealing with this racism that we understand the importance of having a voice. Of saying what needs to be said. Of criticizing governments, and policies.
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@arkrou hehe go look at street interviews in the US. You'll get people being energetic over nothing.
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@Wolf-hf9fv how is that the same? What does the Vietnam war or Korea have to do with it? There were massive protests during that entire war in Vietnam. What does the Korean war have to do with anything? What does any of that have to do with the topic
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@lrn_news9171 it didn't ban the language. It offcialized Ukrainian. Now you can have issues with that. Which in a democracy, could get resolved over time.
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@gandalfsanft1107 no cause that's not how NATO works. Maybe some people would be considered cowards, if they literally didn't defend their homeland, during an invasion. if it truly was a defensive war.
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@Melanie E. It wasn't the US though. And no one is okay with it. All your arguments were disproven. You're just name calling at this point.
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Heh that girl took her shot
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@thomaslacornette1282 that's right. Go look at surveys about what Crimeans felt was their motherland. It was Ukraine by 70-90% in two different surveys before the Russian invasion. Meaning they didn't feel nationally Russian. These were not disputed territories. These were territories Russia 100% agreed, 2-3 times, were Ukrainian. In Budapest and in their treaty of friendship. I don't understand how you can justify the behavior of Russia here.
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@retroimmunity ha with zero political influence. Look it up. There was like a single party that had any success semi connected to extreme groups and they cut off those ties. Compared to extremist parties connected to Russia, a country committing war, and terrorism in their country(Ukraine).
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@irvandisuryana6386 there's a definition of it and it fits. Just because dictators are more targeted now in their methods doesn't change that it's an authoritarian that rules with a limited elite, with limited powers. While oppressing opposition.
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@СергейМонин-д7с The point is that it's not Russia. Anything else doesn't matter.
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The guy at 4:06 understands some stuff too
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@isupportthecurrentthing.1514 it's not hypocritical..it's the total opposite of hypocrisy. It's consistency. People have been complaining about Chelsea manning and even assange. But you're being a hypocrite because you ignore the differences like Nalveny did nothing at all. Versus whistle blowing actual stuff.
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 @isupportthecurrentthing.1514 he's not being tortured. The conditions might be uniformly bad. Inmates might be angry with him, which is what he alleged.
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@fleshnbone187 it's still wrong to do that to people. Freedom and democracy doesn't mean people and governments will be good 100% of the time. But it means there can be opposition with a different message that can win. It means the country can change and improve. Your argument is that it's worst to be a hypocrite sometimes despite being a decent person. Than it is to be a psychopath serial killer or mobster all the time.
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@zacharyriley4122 yea I find it damn impressive how often the Ukranian people themselves have challenged their government to be more democratic and less corrupt.
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1 and a half people had it right.
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 @zerguszz7589 In this circumstance the US is on the good side for sure. Ukraine is on the good side. Russia is not. The good side isn't tied to country. But to actions.
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 @Esm_Psevdonimov a coup is a specific thing. Using force to take over government. The Russian proxies in the donbas give a good example of it.
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@louielearning9987 the conflict was from Russia invading. Culturally there was conflict against Russia's influence obviously since almost the beginning, and why they had more than one non literal revolutions.
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 @bizzle1879 what does it matter who founded it? UK founded Australia but it belongs to Australians. What a nonsense argument
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Even if you aren't "into" politics, it'd be nuts not to have a moral opinion about the situation.
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@Sepultor99 you stole. It begins by admitting this. Russia is bombing the donbas. That line Russians like to use a lot. They killed more people in the donbas, civilians specifically, than the last 8 years. The territory being claimed didn't even have one of their proxy military dictatorship governments. Edit: there are no Russian people there. Only Ukranians. And no one there is safe due to Russia's invasion. Ukranians had more freedom, and a better government than Russia. They wouldn't be safer under Russia in any way.
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@anon-iraq2655 not only do people have debates and arguments and call out the US. Our own allies call us out. And a large portion of the population comes from countries the U.S has done something to. Middle east, LatAm, and Africa. Russia does make the US look far better by comparison.
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@maestro6458 Are you in denial? "As of December, there were over 100 and 180 criminal cases, respectively, under these charges and at least 5,518 administrative prosecutions for “discreditation”. More than 200 further criminal cases were initiated for anti-war activities under other criminal charges." "In July, municipal councillor Aleksei Gorinov was sentenced to seven years’ imprisonment for criticizing Russia’s invasion of Ukraine at a council session.2 In December, opposition politician Ilya Yashin was sentenced to eight-and-a-half years’ imprisonment for speaking on YouTube about mass killings of civilians by Russian forces in the Ukrainian town of Bucha" Then there's the protesters who have been cracked down on. That's expressing an opinion. All the news outlets. That's just from the second search about it from amnesty.
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That last man went hard
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@MWENDA-vv5im literally anyone else that isn't Putin or another far right figure. After that it should be a coalition based on who can do best for now. Obviously if Nalveny was in he'd be best. Ksenia sobchak if she's running seems like a step in a better direction. But even a right wing figure who just seems to adhere to democracy would be huge. Literally anyone that's not Putin or in his camp of authoritarians. Not Putin or worst/more extreme with him, literally anyone.
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@АлександрДухин-р3ц shows you don't know much about US politics.
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@katerinak5387 that's not admitting to any coup in Ukraine. And Russia admitted they had people there. As well as it's documented that they moved in. And it's documented that they gave heavy firepower. And how would these people know how to use it immediately...
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@katerinak5387 pull the troops and weapons and let the Ukranians stabilize their region to end this. Which they would have done almost immediately if Russia hadn't invaded 8 years ago in support of the armed takeover and given them heavy weapons.
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@tesakpetuh would that be that bad? The world is based on business. If Russia does a mea culpa, it would get showered in riches. Businesses will Boom. I don't get this obsession Russians have. They could have been doing well. Getting high positions. And working on their brics. But they are so stuck on subjugating some nearby countries.
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@Zz_Mike-Hawk_zZ Separatist region doesn't mean the separatist were involved. Or even wanted in that region. They didn't campaign and get elected. Russia has already killed more civilians in the donbas. A small region as you said. And they did it, at the time I checked, in less than a year.
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 @Zz_Mike-Hawk_zZ you really think Russian agents aren't Russian agents? Bending over backwards to try to absolve them.
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 @mikerodent3164 heh I wonder if China starts it, would any country care. I mean they'd protest for order, so they'd care a little.
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 @yellowtunes2756 NATO has in all but one circumstance, have had a legal right through the UN. Or not invaded anyone.
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 @natureblank1401 you've gone so far with hyperbole it's ridiculous
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@SkyCloudSilence a visitor from bizarro world.
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@Авчемсилабрат morally and ethically, Russia is not right. And it's sad you can't see it. There's always crazy right wing people in every country that support their government's evil. And Russia also pays and uses bots for disinformation and propaganda.
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@Lastochka720 when you call humanity garbage
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@romanz9342 Russia broke it's ends. From recognizing Ukranian borders, to stopping attacks and removing heavy weapons. Because it never gave a damn about peace. Or resolving the conflict. It just wants excuses to blame people and act like it's the other person's fault.
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 @eremstemero8823 his point went over your head.
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The repercussions are very real. It's understandable. But once you stop trying it won't change. Its a tough situation.
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 @AngrySlavaUkraini usually.the young people are more even or even lean to being more sane ones. That school must be total trash or a propaganda hub.
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@dzonikg there's a difference. a lot of differences. Kosovo became independent... independently. There was no outside anything when it tried. NATO only stepped in for humanitarian reasons based on what had happened before. And the country of Yugoslavia was disintegrating and disintegrated anyway. Russia actually planned everything in Ukraine before it happened. Then invaded. Then organized, sent people, ect. It was centralized in Moscow. It was a small group. It was not the civilian government ECT. Kosovo is more like any country declaring independence. Or other countries around that time, in that region. Is it right or wrong or would it have succeeded without NATO thinking they were going to be genocided is irrelevant to this discussion. It is fundamentally different than what happened in Ukraine. What happened in Kosovo was "natural" What happened in Ukraine was "artificial" by a foreign power
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@dzonikg why would the "west" care. It's not the west. It's a bunch of other issues like their constitution, lack of recognition, conflict with Serbia, ECT.
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@mguzjebesku2591 they don't need him. That's the delusion. You can find a dozen Putins. You can find hundreds better. Thats essentially Putin propaganda. He has controlled the media and opposition to make himself seem good.
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Maki that's a fair point about geography. A bit exaggerated. I just think the issue is that in the US, such drastic opinions would be more balanced on the political level. Pro Putin people say the craziest things. And then people who would oppose that kind of government are scared to talk, want to leave, or think it's hopeless.
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@lindaetheridge-stroud1502 blah blah blah. These countries are refusing one of Russia's major resources. That the US doesn't need. You talk about material stuff while the country slides towards a dictatorship. Your fellows are sent to die. And the government oppress opposition and protests.
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Danny Michelle it's a video about Ukraine and Russia. Go to an US topic and see if anyone criticizes it.
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@imperium_vox and that still doesn't make Russia right. As someone from one of the country's mentioned, Russia is so in the wrong in every aspect of itself.
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I'm glad that they're aware and not delusional at least.
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 @AntonGully what's sad is how they start to blame the sufferers for shaking the boat
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@Imaxxd22 lying. Ukraine was following the agreements. But Russia and proxies wouldn't. Russia's pretending of these things is ridiculous when they had taken Crimea, given them weapons, and imported personnel from before it even started.
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@Imaxxd22 would have been immediately over if Russia hadn't sent people to instigate, supplies, "volunteer soldiers", and heavy weapons. Even then that war was cold after two years. Ukraine was fighting terrorists mixed with foreign agents, back by a country that was threatening them. Not civilians. Those people took over the civilian government and rules undemocratically as a junta.
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@Imaxxd22 that's BS. The whole language thing came from someone trying to uplift Russian to destabilize it because they were a puppet. And the result of all the shenanigans were that the laws reverted back to before that because it was unconstitutional. Ukraine has protection for Russian already. And the language issue only changed years after the invasion with Russia, and no one's complained. And it amounts to trying to stop pro war propaganda and a sanction against Russian artists.
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 @kam2894 ridiculous. You have no basis for even thinking that. But pretending some out of nowhere wave of hate towards Russians happened is in line with your ridiculousness.
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@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 2018 figures: 247,000 Russians have moved to Crimea since annexation. At the same time, about 140,000 people have left to Ukraine - Ukrainian officials, however, say the real numbers are much greater -- by hundreds of thousands. longtime Crimean Tatar leader Mustafa Dzhemilev, Poroshenko's envoy for Crimean Tatar affairs, gave a shocking interview to Ukrinform in which he estimated the number of people migrating to Crimea from Russia at between 850,000 and 1 million. [Original population was around 2 million] "Forcibly shifting the demographic composition of an occupied territory is a war crime under the 1949 Geneva Conventions," Dzhemilev said. "Therefore information about how many people they have brought in is carefully guarded."
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@nekosoup0401 Russia is ranked as more corrupt. 2008: MAP is the next step for Ukraine and Georgia on their direct way to membership. Today we make clear that we support these countries’ applications for MAP. Therefore we will now begin a period of intensive engagement with both at a high political level to address the questions still outstanding pertaining to their MAP applications. - A position that's been reiterated throughout the years.
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@stasshipovskoy1765 Russia didn't feel sorry. Partly because they're psychopaths. It's a psychopathic government. But because they started that war in the first place. They wanted to destabilize the region. They sent agitators and organizers. Ukraine fought a foreign organized war. That's what caused the destruction. Just like Russia today. Let's say it was a civil war. That's still an internal issue. They weren't targeting anyone due to how they speak or whatever BS Russian propaganda says. And the Russian proxies didn't represent the people since they took over and it wasn't the civilian government that declared anything. This was not the people of the region deciding it. This was a small military group taking over those people.
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@Korrus_ on both sides, soldiers fighting. And those terrorist/separatist bombed people too..including an airplane full of civilians.
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 @AK-74K it's the opposite of random. They pick 10% of the loudest voices in a crowd with protests. And target opposition leaders. It's very targeted it seems.
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 @mazellovvvrofls1587 that's imbalanced
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Russia had been instigating even that minority before hand. I think sometimes this narrative can form that Russia came after. Russia was destabilizing the entire time.
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 @Скозырей who's trying to cancel what?
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@yellowtunes2756 they're not trying to enslave anyway. Bad hyperbole. Russia is being imperialistic and expansionist. A lot of Russian bots like to come up with a fake coup. The real coup was the militants from pro Russian parties. A minority that seized power through actual force. And undemocratically ruled. the same people from that region fought against them.
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 @yellowtunes2756 whenever Russian bots say that, it's like they forget that Russia is the killer. Why are you so willing to kill people over conquest. Where's your humanity here.
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 @mateandcheck it wasn't because that didn't happen
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 @yellowtunes2756 Russia wasn't banned. Russians have all these little lies they like to drop.
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@_SpiritS_ bullshit tv = proceeds to say a much of BS Russian media talking points. Please go do your research. The language things didn't even happen till after the invasion. Everything else was just undoing what someone else did. Almost none of it went into affect because it was being analyzed.
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 @zerguszz7589 lame trolling. What American propaganda, from where? Why would Russia allow American propaganda? Why American over every other country?
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@Yuri_Rus there was none after the Soviet union fell. Russia is judged on its actions. And it was given so much leeway to turn itself around, or if not, isolate itself.
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@Naschira this is called projection. You've had like 70 years of NATO not ever attacking Russia. Some propaganda has you paranoid. While Russia is using whatever excuse to invade a country.
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@Naschira partially it's that we saw it happen in real time. Russia decided to invade when everyone was looking. Partially it's because people have been giving Russia the benefit of the doubt for a long ass time. And partially it's because Russia has been an asshole for a long ass time. I'll tell you we were all incredulous that Russia would do it. The US government even told you that they knew you were gonna do it.
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@natasa8266 When all you do is sideline an issue of Ukraine with a different issue, that's obfuscating. Yes you're defending Russia. That's literally a Russian defense. That you see the "honest" Russian defenders do. The fact it's not the same already means it's not hypocrisy..and it doesn't matter. .we can waste time going through every incident to differentiate how it's different. Which it is at every turn For an event that is disconnected to Russia invading Ukraine. Another word thing you have is this collectivist mentality that Russian defenders have. Are you a hypocrite? Because I'm being damn consistent with my anti imperialist stance here. Edit: "Russia is using it as an argument" Russia is wrong and lies a lot. Move on. It literally artificially created the circumstances..it's theater for it's real goals. stop giving their bullshit any weight. it's like you're trying to act like you aren't saying these things yourself. .because of Russia is saying it then you know it's obfuscating. And you know it's BS for reasons I already stated. Now if you're honest and you're saying those things and giving their BS arguments weight, than that's you being being BS.
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@MeTechmind it is. But there's a diaspora in certain countries. So it's not as alien if you go to that. You can also start going to places first on vacation. Or for jobs, combined with an area that has Russians. Or if you like another language, people ECT. I mean he said he had no one in Russia either. But I do get it. It's tough to leave your surroundings, comfort and lifestyle. Of course for him, it might be live or death if there's more mobilization.
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 @dmitriyalaasniy8442 You're anti Europe message is that Russia is so violent, they'll try to murder them. Not really a good endorsement for Russia.
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@Коньвпальто-т7ы all Russians propagandist have been doing is coping. Because the reality of just being a war for the imperialism of an authoritarian dictator is too embarrassing to admit.
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@periscop2023 they're forced to by lip service but awhile ago, I went over their candidates. Aside from opposition, there were a few middle of the road that just tried to do it legitimately as possible, essentially ignoring Putin(the elephant in the room). And on the flip side, some fake opposition that literally supported Putin and was more right and authoritarian than him somehow.
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@Blitzkers99 you don't defend by attacking the country you're supposedly defending, that doesn't want you there. You don't get away with it by saying a murder has been done before so it's okay. And even the US wouldn't try to take over territory nowadays. It's nonsense. And this isn't the first Russian invasion, not even the first in Ukraine. Ukraine wouldn't be fighting so hard for so long if Russia was there to "defend" them from a threat that doesn't exist. Russia is the threat. Russia is the attacker that needs defending from. And Russia has only tried to make things worst for Ukraine because Russia doesn't care or take Ukraine into consideration. Russia isn't the good guy here. So drop the "defend" crap excuse. Drop Amy excuse of being "forced" to as well. I'm saying that preemptively. Russia has no excuse. Ukraine isn't doing what Russia wants? That's too bad. Maybe if Russian had been better to it's neighbors, it wouldn't haven't mattered. Russia should have taken the route Germany did. But it has too much ego, not enough self reflection. But it's ego didn't match reality. And the only thing Russia can do is use force to feed it's ego.
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 shakeel ahmed Or Or... Or... Think hard about this or who Think less hard and no one even has to die because one group can unilaterally end it
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@joe rios in terms of iraq, the answer is yes. Whataboutism aside, i.e your comment has nothing to do with the topic. even Libya seems be headed to a better place. Your comment is built on fundamental lies or assumptions. Those places weren't peaceful to begin with. No one said any one country can end all wars or create world peace. It doesn't make sense in the context of Russia starting a war, or assassinating or imprisoning opposition candidates. And the places you mention have a higher chance of freedom and democracy than before. Iraq might have more political freedoms than Russia at this point.
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You can tell this has gotten serious for them. And it's good to see that 1/3 to 1/2 of the young men seem against it. this conflict is absolutely unnecessary for Russia. Russia shouldn't be doing this, even if just for its own people. (Though they definitely shouldn't be doing this to the Ukranians)
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@a-train992 that's what Ukraine had to live with. Everyone was trying to play nice with Russia.
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@a-train992 not NATO
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That school is teaching them some dumb shit
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Maki I hope you get those reforms and government change. People are just saying we aren't trying to take your lands. Maybe you'd get more people appreciating it and tourism money if they stopped thinking of people outside of Russia as enemies.
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@mitchyoung93 that wouldn't be a difference. That would be an irrelevant fact.
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@АлександрДухин-р3ц they've given citizenship to some people to exploit them and then take it away afterwards. And how they treat people in general counts.
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@jaylooppworld381 that's a type of democracy so you aren't being very smart. Any Republic is a type of democracy. And I don't mean them having Republic in their name obviously.
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@jaylooppworld381 here's why you're wrong. The flaws don't matter. The efficiency doesn't matter. Democracy is a human right. You have the right to not be oppressed. You have the right to elect who lords over you. Anything else is oppressive. It violates you as a human being. You can try to make a better democracy. Or a socialist democracy. Or a communist democracy. Democracy is the system of not being oppressed. It is the system of consent. So you can improve the corruption or the way you go about it, how the voting is done ect. But democracy isn't about anything other than you not being oppressed by consenting as to who rules.
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@АлександрДухин-р3ц this is ridiculous. You deny every other country having a democracy because the US has a strong force. A dictatorship with that same force would have fewer people beholden to it. I come from a different country that fought for it's democracy and suffered a dictatorship. Why do democracies usually do much better at human rights ect? Because they can improve. Because the people suffer but they have the means to improve. Do you think, without external pressures, a dictatorship has the insentive to be more moral? Maybe it won't have the force to project. But I know what a dictatorship is willing to do in small countries. Dictatorships would leave that kind of power in a dictator or autocrat or warlord, with no means of change.
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@leonix5083 the ccp has also made people starve by sending them to farm when they weren't farmers. Kept political prisoners imprisoned. Went after religious groups(Falun gong and Muslims). And probably many more I barely know or remember about. I get that's appealing to people that put the money numbers above human lives. But think about that being someone in your family's organs being harvested because they opposed the regime in some way. And now they have all the worst traits of capitalism with very little of the democracy
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@МихаилПросянников-з3к nowhere in the world is a strong autocratic handed needed for long. And those monarchies are also democracies. I don't even understand the sentiment. That people can't decide on who they want leading them? Like do you think that little of yourself or your citizens. Like why was the tzar desposed... Instead of needing a revolution, in a democracy you can vote people out instead. The reason why you don't give a leader total power is in case he needs to be voted out. Often these leaders start out well but degrade over time and become more brutal to maintain power. The new generation of still brutal dictators are trying out a new tactic of sham(illiberal or managed) democracy. Where they control the state media, the means of election, and jail the opposition.
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@swampy1234 An autocrat could be a single person for a long time. If you're British you probably know how the Brits didn't chose Churchill for peace time. An autocrats ideas can get rigid, or outdated ect. Or maybe they sucked from the beginning. They could surround themselves with yesmen. Or give power to the incompetent. Or just be cruel and petty and corrupt and you can't do anything. And there is a huge difference between regular politician shittiness and dictator shittiness.
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 @FreeTheDonbas there was a coup in the donbas by a small fraction of crazy, corrupt people, yes.
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 @amossutandi can't be neutral when someone keeps invading you anyway. Neutrality was out the window when Russia took crimea I imagine
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 @geroutathat that's quite nonsensical.
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@Weffi76 yea. propaganda is just information with a purpose. The problem is when a dictatorial regime can control everything. There's no pushback. Academics aren't free to shape education ect. That's what's happened in Russia. Too much authority exerting too much control.
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@kiraru that's terrific. Become a puppet state for China. They've been more sensible than you. That's true though. We had to wake up and educate ourselves because Russia is and has been horrible. And yes you are undemocratic. I'm glad you're aware of yourself.
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After media brainwashing and some ethnic cleansing, it wouldn't give a clear answer.
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@ЗабавнаяСобака-ч8й it's impossible not to be related to politics. Or the country oppressing minorities. Or free speech ECT. You don't think Russia did it on purpose? To build roads just to make you think that. Meanwhile they oppress those that complain. Kill opposition party leaders. Poison that melts their face. Unjust prison sentences. State controlled media ect. The history stands that they invaded you. Crimea did not have a referendum. Russia did, with a pre determined outcome. With a military occupation. I'm sure some don't care. But we don't know what Crimea would have really done or wanted to do. You're saying you don't hear it. Go ask it. Ask people from around that time and people that are anti government. And look up how many people have moved in and how many have fled. Who knows, maybe you're family is pro and that's just your circle. And maybe people don't talk about it in their daily lives. The apathy that Russia instills in people politically is a sort of hopelessness.
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@IoT_ ha you're play acting doesn't help your argument. And your argument is without a point(more specifically, a course of action). It's not much of a discussion. The sanctions are having the intended affect. whether you think abroad dissenters are collateral damage or not.
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@enlighty democracy is a right. And the reason you know those things(Guantanamo is not a secret), is because it is open in a democracy. And it allows change to happen. Positive change. Some reports something, and there's outcry, and attempts to hold people accountable. The fight goes on. In a country without a democracy, you can only hope that the government decides to stop. When they have no incentive to do so. Except sometimes external pressures.
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@enlighty you shouldn't give up on democracy. You can have that economic success and democracy. You shouldn't have to be scared of politicians in that sense. Not in the sense that they'll hurt for speaking badly of them.
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@enlighty she's talking free. And people are responding freely too.
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 @quintrankid8045 Do you not know what words mean? I can't see the comment your responding so it lacks context
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@quintrankid8045 well since it lacks context, it sounds like you don't know what a republic is Well I'll ask, was the other person saying it wasn't a democracy and you were correcting them. Or do you not know what the word means.
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@quintrankid8045 yea buddy, you don't know what democracy or republic means. the lack of context was because their side of the full convo is missing. 0ystein somewhat explained it. But you need to look up what a democracy is, and what a Republic is. I'm not even sure what you seem to think it is.
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@supremespanker No it's not. It's whataboutism that is nonsensical because it doesn't prove any point. Going back almost a century to a conflict that has nothing to do with the current situation. How does it relate? He didn't even condemn it. Just tried to bring in US Americans into it.
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@supremespanker He gave no examples of propaganda. And propaganda is about reaction..those women's inability to understand propaganda. His reaction was to mention two wars without any examples of anything. This is about those women, people's reactions definitely matter. Because that's what the topic is about.
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 @eedragonr the entire country of south Vietnam. It was a war to defend a country from invasion. On paper, it even sounds good.
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@Wolf-hf9fv you didn't say that though. You pointed to the US. You didn't say that about Germany or every country. Then you randomly brought up two wars. On top of that you are wrong to say that the same could be said about the US. That's just factually wrong. Because the US does have multiple sources of info. The education system teaches the Vietnam war critically, and covers the protests of it ect. It doesn't cover it up or try to say people were for it only. I said in a different comment that propaganda is just information with intent by a government. But the difference is when a government controls all information and doesn't allow dissent. What you said was that the US is the same as Russia. And that's factually wrong. And brought up some wars.
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 @Wolf-hf9fv who told you that? You don't seem to know as much as you think you do.
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That first woman was great. not timid and funny about it. I remember a few Russian propaganda type comments about how Russians are super brave. But this government has these people timid as can be. Understandable.
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Bunch of Helots. Making history, more like repeating it.
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@lrn_news9171 not only is that not true. Russia has already killed more people in just the donbas.
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 @robertsteele474 absolutely pointless to do it when they started probing attacks
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To be fair it's the same in a lot of countries.
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@bebochek8909 it's not a lie. How can you lie so brazenly. Russia did almost the same as now. Russia attacked unprovoked.
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@bebochek8909 you were in a country that wasn't yours, attacking them. You betrayed Georgia.
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@georgiy7882 those were volunteers. they did what they wanted to do.
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@gandalfsanft1107 are you a Russian?
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 @victorcapel2755 I'm sure its just that they dealt with corruption is in itself corruption as an excuse to purge political opponents.
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@M zelensky wasn't even president when Russia started all this. I swear such blatant lies are ridiculous.
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 @carstenhansen5757 It's not naive when you are providing crucial help. It was one person so the impact would be limited , and limited by time, and countered by propaganda.
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@ReneChewbaka both sound humanitarian and don't exclude each other or anything. It's good will, I'm sure that how you're saying she wanted to help and show them a real person to put a face. Like a cross cultural experience that is positive.
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@GameSteph the lies Russians keep telling themselves. Russians make the US reaction appear almost saintly. But it's nonsense since Russia already borders NATO. And csto borders other countries as well.
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 @jinnwilli they did nothing about it. Again. Russia is on a campaign to make the US look good apparently.
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@MrZlocktar this war is not existential. It's completely voluntary. It's a vanity project Putin decided on. US had already given that equipment to the afghani. It didn't leave it. This isn't Russia against a coalition. No one else is fighting except Ukraine and Russia. Russia is trying to artificially cast this as Kosovo. But its fake. It's a manufactured problem. It's an invasion. The UN and every country views it as such. Russia stepped over the borders or recognized, and tried to topple Ukraine.
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Firat and last guys are crazy. Putin is the one run that ran it to abnormal levels Putin is the one that started this situation Its interesting that old people are saying they need change.
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@JohnSmith-px5nf yet people do it all the time. What's this you can't stuff. You need to stop talking about the west as a single country too. It's ridiculous. But other types of people are equal to you. The freedom you're asking for seems to be to denigrate others, and their value as human beings, so that they have less rights. Anyway go to any English speak political video and you'll find people who criticize whatever position. And you'll find that they have groups in person. The KKK still exists. So in the U.S, you can do whatever. It's a problem once you affect others though. Because that's an action to another person. And as someone else said, the Russia government is more intrusive in all these areas like speech. These gymnastics to try to make a dictatorship seem free are silly.
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@alexsilent5603 since you gave a name I looked it up. a guy committed 4 acts of terrorism... He targeted a child, and told people to attack him. This terrorists threatened Russia... "A magazine Rashid was producing contained suggestions to strike the 2018 World Cup in Russia with vehicles, weapons or bombs, his trial heard." "His list of targets included British Army bases, shopping centres, Jewish communities and government buildings." "Rashid had spent the past 18 months locked away in a bedroom of his parents' house where he had made links with known Isis members and spent hours making online posters and propaganda encouraging would-be terrorists to carry out the most gruesome attacks." Rashid made it clear the prince "and other members of the Royal family should be viewed as potential targets". Rashid admitted four terrorism charges."
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@JohnSmith-px5nf nothing stops you from disagreeing with them so your freedoms are fine.
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@zanzan2738 you literally don't because you have fewer freedoms and rights to criticize the government. You have an autocracy. You literally have fewer human rights.
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@thomaslacornette1282 Go look at the history. that minority didn't feel Russia. Look up any survey. Not even Crimeans felt Russian. They weren't pro a foreign country. Both sides clashed over opinions of how their country should be. A small group of extremist, like terrorists, brought guns into it. And let themselves be organized by a foreign power. That wasn't the majority of even the pro Russian side.
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@thomaslacornette1282 how can you ask why you're the bad guy and Ukraine isn't when you admit you want reconquer a people. Russia recognized, multiple times, the borders of Ukraine. And now you're pretending it's questionable. You're using things from the 19th century to justify Russia doing this now.
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@SShreyas17 that taiwanese example is stupid. You should know why a taiwanese firm wouldn't want to help any Chinese firm without the US being involved. Though they all trade anyway.
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@SShreyas17 You're being disingenuous. It's not about speaking good or ill of the US. Turkey is boarding on dictatorship, so is Russia, china ECT. And that tends to come with horrible human rights violations. Some sanctions for some countries are too much or too soon. But it's wrong to say it's about the US' reputation or order. It's about international and general human rights. And most countries, including the US, are lenient on this. You have to be extreme and consistent, as most of those extreme dictatorships or theocracies are, for these capitalist countries morals to supercede making money.
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@maxhongrys Iraqi is 100 times richer today, and isn't rulled by a dictator. It's much better off. What are you even talking about. The US reasons weren't good but to say Iraq is worst off is a lie. The US didn't bring democracy to Guatemala at all The US didn't bring any thing to Pakistan at all. It sounds like you're throwing random ones without much point in the ones I know about. The US isn't responsible for all these countries current economies either. And what's your standard? I bet that they're about the same for the region(and Iraq is doing well).
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@SShreyas17 the US actually helped India with it's war with china. And helped India by keeping china out of the war with Pakistan. The US didn't pick a side(despite being a Pakistani ally) and didn't even give aid to Pakistan. It blamed Pakistan for the war. And I can't find anything about an embargo or sanction. The only people who gave India any kind of choice was china. There is no evidence there was ever an embargo or sanction I could find on India from the US. Since the US largely agreed with India in 1965. Or any time before that until the nuclear related ones. The only embargo was on weapons to both of them. I think, unless you can prove otherwise, that you've misremembered or were misled by someone twisting history. The US was largely non aligned in that war. And did help bring peace. Though Russia played a bigger role.
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 @alispeed5095 are you comparing public opinion backlash to the government arresting people?
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That guy thinks he's at a job interview for the russian government.
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I don't think Russia would pay any. They'd just ignore it. Not sure what hope there is in Russia. Just a dictator coming into power that for some reason wants democracy.
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@oanaivancea6775 Not really. It's on Russia for trying to interfere. Russia has killed more people in the donbas than all 8 years combined. Russia took over another country's land. Russia fomented the donbas conflict and gave the terrorists heavy weapons. Brought soldiers in. And there's even reports even the people that started it were imported. Then they took over the donbas over the elected people, and displaced millions. None of this is right. It doesn't matter who does it. No one would see the need to be in an alliance if Russia had just been neutral or friendly. But instead, they're scared/worried and want protection. Scared exactly because of the tactics Russia has used.
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 @JohnSmith-fo5cx basic level of righteousness, logic, and reason would tell you it's pointless for the average person
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@mitchyoung93 I can call you a woman. There's no law against it. It'll just come off as nonsensical or jerk ass.
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@MarcoMugnatto why would a Brazilian support a response to Mexico from the US. Russia has 3 allies in SA that I know of. We're not striking them. Lots of US allies get weapons from Russia. Russia doesn't own the space of other countries or Europe. It's not even the power of Europe. It's making demands it can't cash. In any case, it's an immoral action. And Russia is the one being hostile. You're talking about empathy, what about the millions of Ukranians under assault? Someone is trying to destroy their freedom, and culture. Someone is trying to destroy their country. I don't have any sympathy for Russia as a country that would have been fine if it just wasn't horrible to people and countries near it.
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 @handlenameig it is. Imperialism and ego. That simple. Everything else is a manufactured excuse.
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@АлександрДухин-р3ц the only conflict is with Russia. Everything you've said is BS. why would the US support Nazism. Ukraine is not a Nazi state. referendums were not held. Armed terrorist actually over threw the actual government. It's nuts that you left that part out. The idea of Nazis was a later russian invention. The people there were not protesting against nonexistent Nazi governments. And even those people were mostly organized by Russian agents
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@АлександрДухин-р3ц if you're against fascism, by against Russia. The only people monitoring Crimea were Russian stooges. Only thing third party orgs did was survey before the fact. The entire donbas fiasco was manufactured by Russia, the people there were agents send by Russia, same ones that worked in Crimea. A fake presentation when it benefited Putin to keep Ukraine destabilized with them before going crazy. The azov was a militia of locals that got incorporated into the regular army. Meanwhile the agent Russia put in the donbas was a neo Nazi smh.
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@АлександрДухин-р3ц all evidence points to Russia destabilizing Ukraine. Seeing as they flat out invaded them, that seems legit. Only country with an issue here is Russia. Which could have left Ukraine alone, despite whatever BS made up fantasies you have. None of them touched Russia. Which keeps invading to steal territory.
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 @anomalysyndrome3235 countries already "encircle" Russia and china then. Whether those countries are in a defense agreement or not, shouldn't affect you.
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 @shard4756 that doesn't matter. Russian agreements with Ukraine were not on the basis of neutrality. Whether Ukraine even said it would be neutral is debatable.
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 @kalencwil3924 Ukraine did honor it. That also had nothing to do with neutrality. But if the other party doesn't follow it, then agreements break down.
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@anomalysyndrome3235 they wouldn't be bringing a conflict. It would just be existing countries, but with a defense arrangement. No one is talking about Nukes. Russia already has them. China is already encircled with two nuclear powers near it. China has nuclear weapons. What about those countries being encircled by nuclear powers, china, Russia, and N.K? that's okay to you? That's somehow okay. But these countries having a defense arrangement is bringing some conflict in? No one is bringing in a conflict. These conflicts exist already. And you can't blame any country for seeking a defense arrangement where they'll have help if Russia decides to invade.
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It wouldn't matter what U.S president thought 10 years later because they are guaranteed to be out of power after 8 years in most circumstances
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Anti-Globohomo 🏳️‍🌈⃠ None of which has anything to do with Russia's insanity. Why don't you deal with Russia's problems before invading other countries.
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@СергейМонин-д7с no one claimed that. They said they had a strong civil society. Which is true compared to Russia, Which is an authoritarian society. Your mind is warped.
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@СергейМонин-д7с that's not Russia's decision to make. You don't know anything about Mexicans or US immigration since you're totally wrong. Your opinion on this is based on nothing. EU countries have different languages and cultures to begin with.
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 @isupportthecurrentthing.1514 some Russian troll who doesn't even allege that Ukraine tortured him. Compared to a regime destroying dissent to try to change it positively.
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 @isupportthecurrentthing.1514 because Russia can't, not because it doesn't want to. When Russia could, it tried to instigate and support revolutions.
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 @elaineread15 politicians can run a campaign and not be brought down by the actual government just to keep an authoritarian figure in charge
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 @isupportthecurrentthing.1514 Where did you get that idea? A country can definitely arrest people.
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@isupportthecurrentthing.1514 why, why this random rule you've come up with. This made up rule you have. An excuse not to criticize Russia. Stop pretending there's anything else behind your really bad logic.
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@ryanward10 Look at how disenfranchised these people are. And some of that support comes from brainwashing propaganda. Not to be hyperbolic, I just mean he controls the messaging. He controls the medium the other candidates run on. Some of these people don't know any better either. They've had very little experience with it(democracy).
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 @mateandcheck if you weren't sad, this would be a joke. Like saying a wife beater is a great husband. Like it's so outrageous it's almost funny. But then you remember it's sad.
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@kat4428 nothing about 9/11 is forbidden anyway. They're talking nonsense.
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@beloved_angell doesn't happen.
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@Leadbuckety what about Alex Jones? He got sued by people because he kept lying about them.
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Johan Nilsson it's much worst. It's measurably worst by various organizations that monitor press freedoms or human rights.
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@belywerme Putin wasn't dragged. He's instigated the entire thing. He's prolonged it. Putin wanted this. Because he's the only one who's pushed for it(well the Russian gov). He's forced it.
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@TheSanezu the difference is that in the US there's a strong opposition to it. And it wouldn't be state/government propaganda. But the self myth of patriots.
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@beloved_angell because they're invading people. And suffering under a dictatorship/autocratic control with limited freedoms, which multiple of them acknowledge. Russia made them our concern. We were fine ignoring it as long as Russia was content with it's area. And this media is an arm of the military imperialism happening.
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 @j.k.1239 Russia isn't entitled, it doesn't even qualify
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There's always one guy like that everywhere in the world
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 @zerguszz7589 Russia is bad. None of that has to do with Russia invading Ukraine. How are you doing that to justify Russia? Zero sense.
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@ssoqboss what they did was an attack on democracy. And they were heard, but what they said was stupid and wrong.
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The lady that said no one would touch them if they didn't touch someone is right. Same for the lady that said regular people just want to live their lives. But it's crazy how none of us really hate the other and here we are, our governments about to launch a nuclear war.
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 @daedalron that wouldn't be a net gain. You didn't understand what he meant
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 @Imaxxd22 no one supports Nazis, but Russia and you support authoritarians stealing land, attacking countries
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The fascists protecting people from fascists. What a disconnect from reality.
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My immediate thought was Historical borders... Aren't borders. The no longer ours borders.
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 @bizzle1879 in other words, it's part of Ukraine. And Ukraine wasn't going to attack Crimea anyway.
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@imperium_vox why would they? they voted to as part of Ukraine, for independence. You're not making sense. You can't steal land using the military. that's not what happened with any part of Ukraine.
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 @bizzle1879 literally attacked Moldova before. And Ukraine, who hadn't done anything.
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