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Comments by "D. San" (@DSan-kl2yc) on "Media Freaks Out Over "Nails On A Chalkboard"" video.
Liberals or progressives or anyone with a sense of justice should protect everyone and anyone. That's what's right and moral and ethical. Looking at the possibility is fine. But you wouldn't want to live in a world or time where people want witch hunts. Or jump to conclusions.
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@lcg3092 but this video brings up the most immediate search brought up references to men. And I've only heard it used to refer to unpleasant, usually male nerd voices in media.
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@lcg3092 And none women unless we scour specifically for it (which I haven't done). criticism is a thing too. And the reference was to criticism. The possibility exists that its because he finds her shrill. But it wasn't referring to her either. I also did a search and none had a reference to women being shrill specifically unless google is censoring it. But does that mean it could never be used on a woman? It's not a common term but still. My search turned up that like 3/4 people who used it were women if not all 4(one I didn't notice the name or pic).
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@lcg3092 I had a hard time finding stuff too. But if what people are saying is this is usually used in a sexist way but there's little use of it like that, that does signify something. It's an expression that has multiple uses. You could use it any which way. Do we inherently consider it misogynistic towards women?
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@lcg3092 The search doesn't determine sexism. But it can show how its used. And how would we even search for that? I think every politician has said that they don't want to hear anymore or that they want more action. So that's just more nebulous. What we do know is that the phrase is unisex and can apply to alot more things because it's a figurative phrase (the limit might be that it's audible). So the phrase itself isn't inherently misogynistic. The phrased used on a person isn't. And the phrased used in that context isn't. But is there a chance that he thought about it because she's a woman, and he associated her voice with being shrill(despite that her voice isn't) just because she's a woman, but made sure that it wasn't about her voice? Yea I suppose. But it seemed off the cuff to me tho.
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Could be. Or It might not be. The phrase has existed and it's pretty unisex. the gasp could be from that or from it being an insult.
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@auntiealias957 And all that means is that you didn't see a whole lot of nerds(like urkel) and cartoons. because it usually isn't used like that. You'd need context, and to be aware of the accusation. You'd have to think why would someone think it and tie it to the shrill woman. Like I said I've only ever heard it used to refer to broadly to nerds or cartoon characters and not often and not anymore Here's a reference to cartoons "Some of these characters range from being completely meaningless to having voices that are like nails screeching across a chalkboard. " https://geektyrant.com/news/10-annoying-cartoon-characters-from-the-80s-and-90s Here's other references that came up that refer to voices and don't mention gender. A woman uses it broadly without reference to gender: So why are some of us amazing singers while others have a voice like nails on a chalkboard? https://lilchemnerd.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/the-voice-of-an-angel-or-nails-on-a-chalkboard/ Here's a woman using to refer to noise and voices regardless of gender. https://gizmodo.com/apples-version-of-asmr-is-like-nails-on-a-chalkboard-to-1837043452 You don't take into account that men have a wide range of voices, bad singing, or the famous puberty creak. Or the very real possibility that it wasn't literal at all. And the reference were similar to being sick of something.
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@auntiealias957 you even said that her voice doesn't fit and he didn't refer to her voice but constant criticism. He's basically saying that he's sick of criticisms and can't stand to hear anymore. You can't just dismiss that because it dismisses one of uses of the expression when applied to things(in this case, the thing is the criticisms) I made the connection with the leaps of logic. But the expression exists. It isn't or ever was exclusively for women. If anything women were only lumped in with other things, annoying voices in general, bad singing, ect.
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