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Comments by "Evan Norman" (@Newbmann) on "What if America Went Full Colonial?" video.
Just like what phonesia did with carthage Or arguably china with japan Does a overseas tributary count as a colony? It was a overseas posetion which sole reason of exsisting was resource extraction only in that case monetary resources.
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That is more massive sphere of infuence What really was more of a colony was what happened with hawaii at first before integreating it and 100% the philipeans.
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@crusty_cookie3099 don't you mean the Russian SSR? Also the mongols did as well
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@costakeith9048 I would argue China is just as successful of a colonial empire Keep in mind hardly anyone today considers inner Mongolia to be not Chinese and even less for Yunnan and slightly more for Xinjiang.
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@leonardomax2941 there talking about the spanish american war not pay of pigs or cuban missile crisis.
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@stuckonaslide ruined the ecosystem Me who looks at Arizona yep seems about right Then I look at Cleveland and the cayohoga river WAIT THEY FIXED THE MESS THEY MADE WHAT Yeah we ruined alot of stuff but we also repaired it. Which is more than you can say for the poor Aral sea or lake Chad Rip lake Chad.
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Wait team america nah Im on 红队 I feel bad for you if you took that seriously.
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@fedcoin1602 well a mix of both geography was what made it rich but if it had poor leadership it would balkanize into about 13 countrys with modern boarders.
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@costakeith9048 Well that's the most recent examples What really was a great feat of colonialism was what sinicization did to the Baiyue,Qiang or various other ethnic groups that no longer exist. Sure this is closer to what the French did in Africa than what the Americans did IE small settlement of initial settlers to "culturally convert" the natives to something akin to your culture but no one would say France didn't practice colonialism in Algeria as a "random" example.
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Yeah I mean at least they didn't take it Export the natives onto a "reserve" and then settle the rest of the land Like what Canada did with the acadians that reserve being Quebec.
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Just ask mexico how having americans as a ethnic minority went that resulted in the texan revolution. Also give an exception for canada a country founded by loyalist americans so give canada a pass hints the biggest trouble they had was with the french minority not the american one.
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Last time I was this early Russia hadn't colonized saint Petersburg or Karelia yet with novgorodians.
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Uno reverse card cuba takes spain Wait what? Oh reverse colonialism
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@innosam123 monetary resources are still resources and they were only able to recognize china as a independent nation The only diffrence is the types of resources extracted going from rubber and dyes with brittian to gold with china And welll controling foreign policy chinese tributaries could only have that with china.
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@innosam123 trivial still counts even if its a technicality.
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@-noplangaming-9268 lol athens did the same thing with southern italy.
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@johanreillo8403 yeah so it goes EVEN FURTHER BEYOND. Also wasnt rome founded as a colony of greek refugees?
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@muscovymapping8896 not quite as good as a kamchatkan russia Ok for real we dont know how said russia would end up years down the line It easily could balkanize like the Kievian rus did if it wouldnt centralize but if that wouldnt happen then it would be better.
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@Rohan Rajan at first yes That was before the mongol empire fractured and well the golden hoard didnt.
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Wow this turned into a shit show. Also everyone talking about France then there's me Germany never "gave them up". Instead lost them in a war.
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@danske613 fair enough Most people agree Canada was a colony of the uk by the 1920s and thats what I'm going off of Japan and China was a similar relationship only thing canada had to give was a portion of its taxes aka monetary resources to the UK gouvernment just like the main thing Japan had to give China was some of its monetary resources in that case gold. I mean even the few surviving native Americans by the 1920s could be compared to the ainu of Japan but thats a stretch.
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@frostnova8300 italy when france goes full colonial and takes tunis Wait thats illegal.
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@abhignavijjapurapu209 fair enough Still the phoenician carthage comparison goes back even further. So If that one works I'm counting japan as well.
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@anthonysutherland4108 well thats a strech more like the modern british commonwealth without a monarch and willing to expand via force.
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