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As much as I'd like to support your optimism, i'm not even sure we won't die from cancer any more... that presumes that AI's benefits will not only be for some super rich Elons, but also trickle down to us. Depends on the structure of future society, won't it?
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@DaveShap what does that even mean? There seems hardly anything to do than passively watch by the sidelines, but i hope we will at least have a say in how our future society should look like and prepare by discussing it now.
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Luckily we have someone here who truly understands the nature of cognition
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It also can't do telepathy, reiki, telekinesis, scientology, prophecy or resurrection... all that stuff we humans are very proficient in :)
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@gauravtejpal8901 Good on you that your education helped you with that understanding :)
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Would also be interesting if some AIs will use bogus like Homeopathy instead... two sides to fall down :)
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Let's hope that peace is real ;)
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@stephenjamison7195 though i think we don't have to say a lot right now (also in "democratic" countries), i still hope you're right! With AI there will probably be even more possibilities for controlling the masses.
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@1977jazz let's hold onto our butts then 😉
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@GARIMITO Do you imply that sentience can only arise in an unstimulated thought process? I wonder if that's even true for myself ;)
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@mahakleung6992 Well, your pulse was programmed by evolution to go faster i a fight or flight situation. Who programmed the AI's watt usage and temperature to go up?
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@kinngrimm Just imagine what you would do as a CEO to maximize shareholder value, and you know what these companies are doing.
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@mahakleung6992 my point was; why should an AI "feel" threatened if nobody programmed some self-preservation into it. You seem to assume self-preservation as an emergent property of sentient beings.
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@mahakleung6992 would that mean the moment i want to kill myself I stop being sentient? And are you aware of the examples from animal kingdom where a self preservation is not necessarily part of the program?
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Can you explain me one thing: Why do religious people like you always assume everyone else would be religious, too?
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@isaaclowe5000 I can appreciate how safe you feel about seeing the rock in the room which i don't see. But do you realise how rude and arrogant you seem to all the people not seeing the rock? Including all the people not seeing a rock, but a plant or a rhinoceros? If we want to communicate peacefully, we need to learn to be tolerant, even acceptant to other world views without assuming we are necessarily the ones correct all the time.
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@isaaclowe5000 Hey Isaac, i think you realize there are almost as many belief systems as humans. If everyone treats his "truth" like you, i fear we will have nothing but war and misunderstanding between different religions... which is basically what we had up to ~200 years ago. So far it didn't pan out that one truth won against the other ones and extincted all other belief systems, did it? I don't know if you like that kind of world, i personally would prefer a world of tolerance or even better, acceptance.
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As much as I'd like to go with this hopeful approach, i think more likely the orthogonality thesis is true and intelligence is completely independent from values. You can have an ASI paperclip machine.
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@JessieArt sorry i was being sarcastic there ;) Just wanted to point out that out-of-body travel and the like are very contested subjects, and even if they turn out to be real, AI being able to achieve them or not would even be more debatable. We should be careful with our prejudices before we can even assess its abilities.
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@ausden_prowler yes, Denmark is one of the best countries in that respect! Just, AGI is probably going to be developed in the US, which is a whole different story. Don't want to sound pessimistic, but we need to stay vigilant about the possibility that the first company/state developing AGI will keep it for itself to subdue all others.
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Ever heard of the orthogonality thesis?
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@minimal3734 let's hope you're right ;)
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