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***** What old Top Gear had that nothing else has these days.
'Aimed at teenagers'? I prefer to say it is aimed at a very, very wide audience. My mum drives a 2002 Toyota Corolla with little care for anything, and she likes Top Gear. My brother is incapable of driving in the first place for medical reasons and has no interest in cars either, but even he likes Top Gear. I'm a petrolhead, and I too like TG. In fact, I think the show is a blessing to petrolhead culture, given how many people it inspired to become a car enthusiast (me included).
Nothing wrong with a bit of controversial humour. The BBC would disagree, but they're a monument of PC culture. The Argentina incident was most likely an unfortunate set of circumstances, with the conflict provoked by over-interpretation of supposed cryptic messages by the Argentinian attackers.
Fair enough, but the mockery didn't mean his disapproval of those cars. He likes most of the Alfas he ridiculed. It was more in the nature of the new show to mock cars, although that didn't stop them from doing a great job at praising some (the masterpieces being the aforementioned V12 Vantage review, the Pagani Huayra review and the Alfa Disco Volante review).
I say 'sacked' because I don't want to have to specify the whole process in detail every time.
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***** I would say it was aimed at menchildren, given the many cultural references to times well before those teenagers were born. Nonetheless, its appeal is incredibly broad
I wouldn't call them 'blatant attacks', since no actual harm was intended. It was mockery, going near a line sometimes, but never over it.
Opinions of old Bimmers tend to change as the Beamers get older. Either way, when did he say that in the first place?
It's not the only term I know, I'm not soft in the head. I knew his contract wasn't renewed, but I'm not going to say that all the time because it's stylistically very unappealing. Plus, I can't be bothered to in the first place.
Exactly. It stirred the love of cars for many people. It may not be a great representative of petrolhead culture (as its lack of attention for muscle cars and JDM cars shows), but it's a factor enabling car culture to grow and sustain itself.
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freepieanchips I'm pretty sure you're referring to the episode with the cheap sports saloons. The reason they mocked that E36 was its appalling state. The only instance of E46 'mockery' was the Mazda 626 MPS review, where they simply stated it was very expensive and the MPS was much better value. Neither is mockery.
From where I'm standing, both effectively end the employment at (in this case) the BBC, one just does it more rigorously than the other.
I will concede that the BBC carries more responsibility for controversial jokes. In that light, they're better off at Amazon anyway.
That is your opinion, and I'm not going to try and change it. It is, however, not rubbish. You think it's rubbish, similarly to how I think it's great.
Well, that's fine. But there was a place for Top Gear on telly, even if it wasn't informative.
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***** I've seen a lot of fragments of old Top Gear, actually, and I can confidently say that anything missing in today's range of motoring programmes that old TG did have, has now found its place on informative websites. Those subjects no longer belong on audiovisual media, we live in an era of immediate information access and the demise and lack of replacement of old Top Gear is an example of that.
The Cool Wall is entirely stand-up comedy. I find it entertaining, but one should never, ever take it seriously.
I disagree. Every car enthusiast has a dream car, but almost no-one actually owns their dream car. We can drool over cars, know things about them, appreciate them before owning them. Fair enough, owning a car is a next and crucial step, but one does not need to own a car to be a petrolhead. Heck, I've envisioned every bit of owning a first generation MX-5, something I hope to achieve in the next few years. I've played it out in my head countless times, and I look for second hand ones every day. How am I not an enthusiast?
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+freepieanchips Interest does not equal knowledge. Knowledge is the eventual goal of interest. In fact, you could argue that interest in something indicates a lack of knowledge, although I wouldn't go quite so far. Besides, there's more to be found out about cars than their detailed technical workings.
I do have some limited knowledge about technical aspects of a car, but that's not a requirement to be a car enthusiast. If you can put your hand on your heart and honestly say you love cars, you're a petrolhead for all I care. There is absolutely no reason why some parts of the community should have the undeserved, unnecessary sense of haughtiness that you're displaying right now.
The aforementioned Tim Burton likely sees cars as accessories, as rolling jewellery. And indeed, that means he is not a car enthusiast. He's a 'nice things enthusiast', if you will. Top Gear, with its admiration for hot hatches and classic cars, falls on the other side of the spectrum, that of a more intrinsic love of cars.
Nothing wrong with a bit of loose, if childish, humour. Not everything has to be dead serious and informative. That is your taste and you're completely entitled to that, but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with Top Gear being infantile.
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***** Because their inner workings aren't relevant to the driving experience. You don't need to know how everything works, as long as you know what it means. I don't know how a turbo intrinsically works, but I know what the consequences of using one are. That is enough.
If Chapman or Ferrari hadn't exhibited understanding of how a car works, they wouldn't have been car manufacturers. How is that relevant to what being a petrolhead means? The people that design the cars are not the entire car community, clearly.
Because, like I said, there's much more to be found out and wondered about cars than the technical aspects. That's why people love the Alfa 8C. A dream car is a car that someone would most like to own if the means are available. Some people can't afford their favourite car, which is why they have a dream car. That doesn't deprive them of their enthusiast status.
A McLaren, you say? I'll assume the 650S.
3.8 litre twin-turbo V8, dual clutch flappy paddle gear box, RWD, mid-engine, 650 bhp, a few more Nm, relatively natural torque curve for a turbocharged car (high-revving, relatively low and late peak torque), 0-60 in 3 secs, 200-ish mph, advanced suspension (with some kind of liquid) that makes for an extremely smooth ride, made by the people who became world champion F1 numerous times. That's more than your average vlogger can muster off the top of their head.
A joke is hardly harmful to a race or culture. It may upset a few people: so be it, you can't take everyone's feelings into account. It'd be a spineless show then. The punching went too far, but essentially ruining the show by 'sacking' (yes, I know...) the trio was not the right solution in my opinion.
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