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@therealzilch Ramen noodles too - obviously NASA has their fingers in it...
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80hrs of deep maths per week and you can’t figure 360/25000?
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Sigh. It was the accepted idea until recently. Why don’t you produce the real FE model si we can be accurate? We keep asking the people who say they have it but nothing is ever forthcoming.
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If you don’t debunk them then there are less knowledgable folks who can be persuaded there is validity in the various claims. A frequent comment is that think there are unanswered questions or that the globe is an assumption. Some FE’ers are pot stirrers, some have leapt down the rabbithole.
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Have you considered looking up how the distance was measured?
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They used to; it was replaced with “density is a force” once it was realised thd FE would approach light speed within a year.
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Your eyes are not going to be aware of a few degrees difference; actually measuring it demonstrated the fall. Nobody has zoomed the set sun back into view. Plenty of people have fallen for the straw man argument of horizon & visual acuity being the same thing.
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Motion of the sun, horizons, angle to Polaris, two celestial poles; requires measurement and observation.
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@blitzlegga The problem is modern electronics where chips use circuitry a few atoms wide; one particle can damage the circuitry, there is only so much redundancy and everything is controlled by electronics. With Apollo the problem was minimising the dosage received by the astronauts; they could withstand a far higher exposure than circuitry. Technology as a whole has moved on since the 1960’s & 70’s; there is no moon technology that existed in isolation to everything else. Every bit of technology involved in Apollo has progressed 50 years; while the blueprints for Apollo craft exist we would have to regress 50 years to build one. We did not forget how or lose technology; it was necessary to develop modern craft with modern technology for modern purposes. Principal reason for the Apollo missions was one up manship on the Russians during the Cold War; science came second. Once the political will went, so did the necessary budget. More could be done for less with unmanned craft.
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Theory has a different meaning in science from the vernacular. What evidence do you think you have? FE’ers keep saying they have it but only ever come up with “just gotta be” and “I don’t see how”.
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They can be turned around but the cameras are for long distance exposure of faint objects and the satellites are in low orbit; you would get an unfocussed, over-exposed shot of a small area.
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How does density act as a force and why in a consistent direction? Why does the great guru Dubay never explain?
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@Vkarlsen I did answer; I pointed out that arguing something doesn't exist on the grounds we don't fully understand the cause is not a valid argument. The attraction exists, all alternative explanations have been eliminated and the measured attraction is consistent with mass & distance being the variables. If you think it is something else then you need to say what and why.
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@opxchaos5757 "look up eric dubay" Not his videos are not very good. It doesn't take much intelligence to see the logical fallacies. People keep telling me that he explains how density makes things fall but he doesn't; he just waves a hand and says "it's caused by density" and a lot of gullible prats thinks that explains the mechanism.
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@kylefillingim9658 Principle reason being that nobody can find any trace of electrical current & magnetism of sufficient magnitude. If you want to claim that the observed red shift is caused by other factors then you do need to explain how that would be a plausible alternative. You can't dismiss something out of hand on the basis of "“something else just gotta be causing it”; you need to specify what the "something else" is and you think how it could work. If not then you aren't thinking, just presuming arbitrary dismissal makes you a Thinker.
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"Why do all the photos need computer graphic modifications..." They don't and they aren't. "no video footages of the globe from space" DishTV ran a live camera on Earth channel for a few years. There are cameras on the SpaceX launches. There are cameras mounted on the ISS. WHat constitutes "video footage" to you? Motion of the sun, horizons, angle to Polaris and two celestial poles, all of which you can verify for yourself.
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Pretty indicative that FE is an American obsession.
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@therealzilch Damn! You’ve rumbled the Sun. 😊
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@Ninja1998-f3b On that FE model (there is more than one) the sun wouldn’t come within 20 degrees of the horizon and never appear less than a quarter its size. Still waiting on FE’er explanations for EVERY aspect of that FE sun.
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@Ninja1998-f3b Why would the FE sun only shone in a restricted direction? Why always appear circular?
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@Ninja1998-f3b Rather the problem; you haven't thought any of it through, just made airy statements thinking that you are educating people.
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@thomscott8678 Why have none of you tried triangulating the position of the FE sun if it’s so easy?
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@thomscott8678 How does the FE sun act like a torch? Where’s the conical reflector? Why always circular and never oval?
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Infinite is a lot larger than you are envisaging, ie, it’s more mass than exists in the entire universe. You need to come up with an explanation why we can only see one sun and why curvature is readily detectable if it is absent.
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@tatonemio6388 I think he means a schism between relativity and quantum physics.
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“I don’t see how” or “There’s just gotta be a conspiracy”?
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Ask questions but be prepared to accept the answers.
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Big polar bears blocking the view.
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A very long chunter. You over-looked the distance to the sun and failed to explain why an inclination of the rotational axis towards the sun would have no effect. Try doing it.
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You mean FE’ers who can’t explain anything and who get shirty when we don’t believe you have explanations?
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@ronpapi9539 "Ask this Pilot why it takes the same time..." Once agin, conservation of momentum.
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@ronpapi9539 "the speed of the bullet diminishes at a certain distance caused by momentum" Air resistance leads to a decrease in momentum as the velocity decreases. Horizontal momentum and vertical velocity are unrelated: two different directions.
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@briansearle6868 "There is no reason to mock someone for questioning the current scientific understanding" It's not the questioning that gets mocked; it's the refusal to accept the answers and the evidence backing those answers.
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Not including God and disproving God are two quite different things in much the same way as saying "God exists" is not proving that God does exist.
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@k3ntv.rhoades What’s your objective interpretation of the motion of the sun? Thrust is required for acceleration or counteracting the loss of momentum from friction or medium. The Earth has a constant velocity and there is no resistance in a vacuum; it does not need any thrust to keep moving. Rockets: hot gas goes one way, the rocket goes the other.
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It’s what preceded “density force”. How does a ratio make anything move and why in a consistent direction?
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@HaileAozfie You realise that the purpose of formulae is that you can compute answers from specific values? Let’s see your maths for circles and straight lines being indistinguishable.
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@freefreepalestine360 Each day it crosses the sky at a steady 15 degrees per hour regardless of the observer’s location. The “infinity symbol” effect relates to the difference between solar & sidereal days and the effect of the elliptical orbit around the sun. Explain how you think it occurs on a FE.
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@1FeistyKitty 1a. You're assuming any change must be quick & huge; stars measurably change position and you can check the change in the nearest for yourself with a good telescope. 1b. Smart people comprehend that 500k mph is trivial in the scale of intergalactic distances. 2. And I bet you haven't questioned those videos or even thought to try measuring it for yourself, ie., put a solar filter in a camera and track the sun. 3a. That you can't comprehend time & distances beyond what you personally drive is dumb, not insightful. 3b. So you have no comprehension of the angle of light changing the further you move away from the equator. Again, that is dumb, not insightful. 4. You haven't bothered checking how pendulous vanes work, have you? 5. Selenelion eclipses. 6a. Still waiting on FE'ers to explain how the FE sun is supposed to work. 6b. The moon goes through 1/28th of the phase cycle per day; again, you are expecting change to be huge & quick rather than considering what would be seen. 7. Dubay quotes Rowbotham who made it up on the knowledge that people he was preaching to mid-19th century were highly unlikely to travel outside the country, never mind make it to the southern hemisphere. This is the 21st century with worldwide communication and travel readily available and about 800 million people permanently living in the southern hemisphere. Which do you considering is more likely and why: A: nobody has noticed the star charts are radically wrong B: your guru is telling porkies 8. Telescopes aren't self-focussing. Explain why you think not focussing will give you a clearer picture. 9. FE'ers are crap at experiments. None of you think controls are necessary or that you need to take confounding factors into account. 10a. What defines up & down on a FE? 10b. How does density act as a force and why in a consistent direction? 10c. What don't you understand about attraction being proportional to the mass? How the heck could you NOT understand such a simple concept? 10d. You're assuming nothing has changed in the solar system because you are again assuming any change must be huge and quick. 10e. Tangential velocity, not centripetal force. 10f. Most moons are tidally locked; it's not novel to our moon.
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@yafois988 Did you notice thee were two lines in my comment? Did your brain shut off after reading the first line and you just started firing from the hip? Explain to me where t comes into the equation I gave you.
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@GeorgeGeorge-yb2sz “climate isn’t last werks weather” You were saying the meteorologists understood it better than the people looking at it long term. Which way do you want it?
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"claims of authority should be rejected" If the airline tells you that the plane is safe would you insist on checking it personally? We can't do anything & everything personally so many things we do have to be accepted from someone or something perceived to have the authority to do the checking. Errors will occur because nothing & nobody is perfect but that doesn't automatically mean somebody is deceiving you or that there is a massive fundamental understanding of something. "The medical industry is notorious in pushing out new studies, that fail to be reproduced" One of their responsibilities is expanding knowledge of medicine and you don't do that without studying the subject. No study is going to be comprehensive; you can't look at everybody in the world simultaneously. The smaller the group used the more likely there will be a statistical weakness that leads to inapparent errors. There were accusations about only some studies on any specific subject being released so only the favourable ones were seen; more recently (depends on the country) all such trials have to be registered beforehand and specify the methods & analysis to be used. "some toxic chemical widely used, that is later banned, or at least get labeled as unhealthy, only to be later declared as a health food again" Knowledge increases. Somethings are not initially recognised to be toxic (insufficient dosage or exposure) and it later becomes apparent they are. Occasionally the risk is found to be overblown or specific to a certain subset of people. Since anybody & everybody can flog "health foods" I'd be careful who you point a finger at. "getting FDA granted immunity for liabilities" Vaccines specifically. They pay a premium to the FDA that goes into a compensation scheme for anybody suffering serious side-effects. It was set up by the US government in response to most companies pulling out of manufacturing polio vaccine in the early days; the risk to the public was greatly outweighed by the public benefit but companies didn't want that risk. "There are lots of examples of "scentific community" holding on some ungrounded dogmas, that are overturned only after the old professors eventually retire" Not exactly. There are ideas postulated with minimal supporting evidence. That accumulates with time, by which time the older people have retired.
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@skylermoody7771 There was an eclipse a few years back that crossed the US. How did people know the exact time and route if it is not accurately calculable?
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@tatonemio6388 Had to make do with a partial eclipse; half the building was outside a few minutes before it started. Only the cicadas were taken by surprise.
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@elmanuboy How many times in how many ways by how many people does the existence of gravity need to be demonstrated to satisfy you that it has been demonstrated? The Michelson-Morley experiments used the known motion of the Earth to look for evidence of the entirely hypothetical luminiferous; they found no evidence of luminiferous aether. Explain why you think the absence of evidence for aether would prove its existence.
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@elmanuboy How does density (a vectorless ratio) act as a force and why in a consistent direction?
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@elmanuboy Whether gravity is a force or an apparent force is irrelevant; gravity exists and ghe FE’ers denying it can’t explain the effect.
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@elmanuboy I told you about the Cavendish experiment and your mind filtered it out; it’s you who can’t handle the truth.
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@sofiahaga32 Both are round. Move forwards over the surface of a sphere and you will describe a circle.
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@jdw616 Check the difference between umbra and penumbra when it comes to eclipses.
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