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Comments by "" (@A86) on "Trans vs Conservative Men: Is Masculinity Disappearing in America? | Middle Ground" video.
@houseofmatrix6174 You do know anger and pride are also emotions? I bet you probably don't think it's "weak" for men to openly be angry or braggadocious.
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@PeterParker-yg6fc I'm sorry that someone hurt you
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@Domino1972 LMAO Dude, those are literally feelings. They're enotions. Emotions are feelings. When a guy slams his game controller because he got mad that's a feeling.
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@ZombieWerePrechaunPire I have a feeling you wouldn't care about the fact most undocumented immigrants don't like the term "illegal aliens" or "illegal immigrants" and would just tell them to deal with it. I suspect you're only sensitive to men who don't like the term "toxic masculinity" because you also dislike it.
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@A Google User Therein lies the problem. You see the aspects being criticized as "toxic masculinity" as masculinity itself. Hence why you get upset by the term because you can't imagine masculinity without those elements. Is calling men "sissies" for crying, shaming them for going to counseling or a therapist, going to the doctor when they feel slightly unwell, asking for directions, or enjoying pink and frilly things or fruity drinks the product of a healthy mind? Is it healthy to encourage men to drink their problems away, be sexually aggressive, be homophobic, and try to dominate women and be opposed to women being seen as equal? Those are examples of toxic masculinity, which you're defending as "healthy".
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@peterlord7682 That's literally part of what falls under "toxic masculinity". Extreme self-reliance and refusing to accept assistance ir ask for assistance. What you described about keeping calm I fail to see what it has to do with masculinity. Staying calm under pressure is not something particularly to men or more rare among women. Your last sentence is a massive generalization that's either built on some negative experience or experiences you had ir based on horror stories you've heard from other men. My father has broken down crying in front of my mother and my mother has never left him. Any woman who would is a woman not worth your time.
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@peterlord7682 Yes, we all do need to get better. What elements of toxic masculinity do you think are helpful or necessary?
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@ai_battle Almost all children have a sense of their own gender from a young age. When you were 5 years old, if people started calling you the opposite gender and opposite gender pronouns that your parents have always referred to you as, you would have been upset and eventually started crying or feeling dismayed.
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@goldminecoursepro Detransitioning is rare (only happens in 7% of cases of transitioning) and 90% of detransitioners said their detransition was temporary and due to lack of support, lack of acceptance, or because of harassment and bullying for transitioning.
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@LemonAide We already let people decide they are cisgender when they're children. When people assigned male at birth call themselves "boys" as 5 year olds, nobody chastises them for having chosen a gender identity at such a young age. You don't have a problem with small children choosing their gender identity. You only have a problem with them choosing something OTHER than what they were assigned as at birth. Or you only consider transgender and nonbinary people to have a gender identity and don't consider it an identity when people are cisgender. Which is funny. It's like not considering heterosexual a sexual orientation.
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@incogcheeto9322 It's literally a term used by the WHO, AMA, and APA. I'm sorry you find scientific terminology "liberal".
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@deusvult8251 LMAO
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@mimim6015 This. Late childhood and early adolescence is the time that fathers and society (and unfortunately many mothers too) start REALLY pressuring boys to stop crying and stop whatever tolerance they had for boys crying at younger ages. To the extent of punishing boys for crying. That's psychological conditioning and social engineering.
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@agathachris9722 Adolescent boys are literally chastised and often punished by their fathers or male relatives for crying. This would be absolutely unnecessary if boys just become physically incapable of crying much due to hormones. Parents would never need to tell boys to not cry. It would just stop happening naturally. The fact boys are socially and psychologically conditioned to not cry shows it's not something that will just happen all on its own through testosterone.
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@peterlord7682 And that's an example of toxic masculinity. Shaming men for calling for help, holding men to unrealistic standards (like being able to magically defeat any and all attackers, which is completely unrealistic) and sooner die for macho pride and leave their family without a husband and a father than call for help. You die at the hands of a guy with a gun while the wife moves on to sleep with some other guy and let him raise your kids after you're dead.
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@hsdjsdshdhsdnsmsd6247 if being a "provider" requires women to take a submissive position or women to give up their power, then yes, it is a problem. If you can't deal with equality that means you're lacking.
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@joshmoonXY I didn't give any statistics on how many men think that way. But most men hold at least one belief that falls under the "toxic masculinity" umbrella. Even if they don't hold a ton of them. We all need to do better. Life is a constant improvement process. If you're not improving then you're stagnating.
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@joshmoonXY That would be hiding the ball because those specific behaviors are considered part of "masculinity". If you had a problem with Obama refusing to use the term "radical Islamism" you're doing the same dance he did. Not wanting to call a spade a spade because you don't like how it sounds.
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