Comments by "" (@jboss1073) on "Metatron" channel.

  1. 1:10 - yes you do, everything you think you know about Celts you just believe because people stated it with big words.
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  2.  @gunide  He thinks Irish and Scottish people are "Celts" just because they speak "a Celtic language". Although of course he doesn't extend the same rule to call Iberians "Romans" just because "they speak a Romance language".
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  3. Who ever called the Irish Celts in Antiquity? Answer: no one. Therefore they are not Celts.
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  4.  @lrdr5404  "Even the modern Irish don’t really identify as Celts either. Sure, it’s the name for the language group and It’s used as a convenient term in some other cultural contexts, but it’s not meaningfully an identity for Irish individuals." You are absolutely correct and thank you for saying that. On the other hand, the Portuguese and the Galician fiercely identify as Celts and will point out all the tribes and personal names in tombstones found in ancient Iberia with names bearing the four letters C-E-L-T. They are the only people in Europe with so many personal names and tribe names using the name "Celt" for themselves. From the lack of meaningfulness the Irish have towards the name Celt (correctly so, after all it's not theirs) and from the passion with which the Portuguese and Galicians defend their Celticity (also importantly considering all the evidence they present from first-hand tombstones and personal pottery) it is clear who are the real Celts and who are the people who are either being forced the label "Celtic" on or who are ignorantly parading it - not you, of course.
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  5. @revilo178 "Are we allowed to call the Greeks "Greeks" anymore or should we say "Hellenes"? Can we still say "India" or do we have to say "Bharat"?" Once again: "Greek" is an exonym. "Indian" is an exonym. "Celt" was NEVER an exonym for the Irish and Scottish. I hope this has made it simple enough for you to understand.
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  6. @@tired-boy I am not conflating culture and DNA, you are, by saying "Iberians are Latin" when that is only their language - not even their "culture". "I've never heard a Portuguese claiming celtness instead of latinness, that you may have heard of Galicians, " That is you. Portuguese people who are educate know that their ancestors called themselves Celts in their tombstones and personal pottery, and that the Father of History, Herodotus, first located the Celts in Lusitania, "next to the westernmost people of Europe, the Cynetes". There is nothing "Latin" about any Iberian people. Their language is called Romance for a reason - and the Romans never called themselves "Latin" for that same reason - the reason being you don't use a TRIBAL, PEOPLE'S name as an adjective for language, culture, etc, because that waters down their name disrespectfully in the same way that calling razor blades "gillettes" waters down their brand name. "not beacause of a distinct celt culture, but because they have a peripheric nationalism that want to distance themselves from the rest of Spain." Oh, stop it. It is perfectly genuine to seek your own political independence when you are a separate people, and the Galicians and the Portuguese have been a Galaico-Lusitanian people for over 4,000 years now after the Bell Beakers started this. Both Portuguese and Galicians rightfully claim their Celticity based on what their ancestors called themselves as can be verified by anyone online searching for "celt" in a free epigraphic database of ancient tombstones - most tombstones containing the four letter name C-E-L-T are located in Lusitania quite definitely. "Nontheless it's been proven that a big chunk of modern day Iberians' DNA stem from celts" Their whole DNA is Celtic by definition as 2,000 years ago they had the same DNA and they called themselves Celts. What the mixture is doesn't matter - a people in the past had this same DNA and called themselves Celts with this DNA and they were the ancestors of the Iberians.
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  7. The Insular peoples were never called Celts.
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  8. 20:29 - I actually cannot believe a genuine Italian can stomach a McVities - they're utterly terrible.
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  9. "I watched a talk the other day where the “expert” was mind blown by the fact that the ancient Celts were a bunch of different groups and not 1 giant monolith. " Because that is incorrect. That is the old, outdated, debunked, nordicist, victorian, romanticist idea perpetrated in the 17th century by British scholars. None of it is true. The Celts were a single tribe who called themselves Celts like no other tribe did for themselves. That tribe was known to others - the outsiders - as Lusitanians. To themselves - they called themselves Celts, as you can verify yourself for free online by searching any epigraphic database for "celt" and watching the results land almost only in Lusitania.
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  10.  @Inquisitor_Vex  WE might have. I think the only X lived wherever people called X lived in ancient times. For Celts, that is western Iberia. Nowhere else can we find a people that called themselves Celts in epigraphic and ceramic pottery.
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  11. The so-called "Celtic languages" are only modernly known this way and that name was coined by academics in the 17th century. Before that, languages used to be named after the people who spoke them, so that the language of the Irish was called Irish or Hibernian after their name from Classical Times. So the language being called "Celtic" does not imply anything since that naming was artificially done by academics in modern times. Not to mention that those languages were first called "Gallic languages" and only later were they called "Celtic languages" so does that mean the Irish were Gaulish for a while and then not?
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  12. The Scottish history does not include the name "Celts". So they're not really Celts. Just the academics "made them so".
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  13. That is all outdated info. Read Patrick Sims-Williams.
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  14.  @AnthropomorphicTrilobite  I'm not talking about "words" which are "improper nouns" but about names which are "proper nouns". A German is a German from the beginning of the Germanic people until today and it shouldn't change because "today is different than yesterday". So is the case with Celts - the Celts today are the same as the Celts who called themselves Celts in antiquity, namely the Portuguese, and outside of that everyone is practicing cultural appropriation by stealing their native tribal name and claiming it for themselves under the excuse that "the professors of my British country called my language Celtic therefore I am the Celts of the ancient times and Celt is just a word so I can totally just take it without caring about offending the actual descendants of the Celts who actually still exist today and actually still know they are descendants of the Celts and hence the only real Celts and are probably laughing at us right now for not calling ourselves Caledonians and Hibernians and being proud of our own name and ancestry and instead wanting to coast on the ancient prestige of the Celts just because they were talked about by the Greeks and Romans and neverminding that they were talking about the western Iberians and southern French when they mentioned the Celts, we Caledonians and Hibernians are just going to be the Celts now because it doesn't matter how ancient people used words". Congratulations, your point-of-view ends up destroying your own identity. Now that most Irish speak English, a Germanic language and not a Celtic language, I guess the Irish are no longer Celts but Germans, then, by your rule. So I will start calling Irish and Scottish people "Germans" no as per you and @IrishColin.
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  15.  @blanketparty5259  Not in the Dark Ages - it was probably around 800 BC.
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  16. The Celts were a cohesive single people as you can verify by yourself by looking up "celt" in any epigraphic database - "Celt" was how the Lusitanians called themselves - their endonymic name.
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  17. You are correct! I agree.
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  18. Here is what is always a myth: that Jewish people had an important role in gentile History. They did not. This Carthage thing is completely unimportant. No one is walking around with misconceptions about Carthage, because no one cares. Only Jewish people care, and Metatron got fooled into giving Jewish people attention and a third of his video about gentile history. What a naive fool.
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  19. The Scottish are not Celts. The name "Celt" was never a part of Scottish history. They never knew the name, never used it, and were never known by it. They're not Celts by any measure.
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  20. You did not address any of the recent academic research on Celts. You're still treating Celts as if they were the Hallstatt and La Tene cultures and ancestors of the Welsh, British and Irish. Patrick Sims-Williams has already refuted your entire video in his pivotal paper "An alternative to Celtic from the East and Celtic from the West".
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  21. 17:21 - 'the pyramids were built by slaves" - I thought that had been refuted?
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  22. It doesn't matter because Hallstatt and La Tene were not Celts. The information in this video is woefully outdated.
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  23. @ No. Read Patrick Sims-Williams "An Alternative to Celtic from the East and Celtic from the West". That is where it was refuted the last time. Dr. Sims-Williams is the President of the International Congress for Celtic Studies. La Tene could have been Pannonian, Germanic or Italic. But there is no proof either way.
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  24. The Irish certainly do NOT have "records off since ancient times about being Celts" - please learn your history. The Celts being the Irish was a Victorian, romanticist invention of the British in the 17th century. In 1582 George Buchanan who coined the term "Celtic languages" said "only the Irish and Scottish can be said to be Celtic languages because they came with migrants from Spain who were Celts on the grounds their tribes were named Celtici and such". So if anyone has "records off since ancient times about being Celts" it is the Iberians, not the Irish.
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  25. Incorrect. That is only what the current academics want you to believe, in their elimination of identities. No, Celtic were an ethnicity, they were the people who called themselves Celts in western Iberia.
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  26. 20:10 - "The Celtic population in Britannia". There was no such Celtic population in Britannia. You should be more careful with your terms. They were Celtic-speakers (although even that is anachronistic) but they were not "Celtic populations" by any stretch of imagination.
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  27.  @metatronyt  Sir, the Irish are not Celts, and many serious scholars think otherwise. I could quote you many of them. Would you like me to?
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  28.  @deaconblooze1  What I've been told? No, I believe that Science is done by evidence, and not by consensus. The consensus on Irish being Celts is based on Romanticist Nordicism from the 17th century. It is incorrect and ahistorical. The Irish were never called Celts in antiquity. Simple as that.
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  29.  @branthomas1621  The Irish language is and has always been called "Irish". It has never been called "Celtic" until two academics made a mistake in interpreting Herodotus and interpreting the original place of Breton, that they named Scottish and Irish (at first only those two) "Celtic" and it was only because George Buchanan said in 1582 that the Celts came from Spain as the Celtici tribe in Spain proves. So even the British who coined the term "Celtic languages" only did so because they thought those languages came from Spain where they were sure there were Celts, by name, the Celtici tribes. Celtic is an adjective for the Celts tribe in western Iberia, who is said to have carried the language to Ireland and beyond. But the Irish do not have Celtic culture: they have Hibernian culture, or Irish culture. And the Irish also do not speak a Celtic language - they speak a Hibernian language, or an Irish language. The only people speaking Celtic are the western Iberians - they mixed their Celtic with the Latin they were given, and in the mix they became the original language with the highest Celtic vocabulary. The ancestors of the Iberians called themselves Celts in their personal items. On the other hand the Irish and SCottish do not have the name "Celt" anywhere in their history.
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  30.  @minutemansam1214  "the Irish are Celts by virtue of them speaking Celtic language." I've already refuted this on my previous message. The French are not Romans for speaking a Romance language, hence the Irish cannot be Celts for speaking a Celtic language. George Buchanan in 1582 only named Irish and Scottish as "Celtic languages" because according to him "the Celts came from Spain as their name Celtici there does show". Before 1707 the Celts were normally associated with the Spaniards and other southwestern European peoples by everyone, including George Buchanan who first suggested the Celtic languages to be related, although he originally called them Gallic languages: "[...][George Buchanan] thus argued for an Iberian origin for the Irish and the Scots. To support this he noted the name of Brigantia (A Coruna) in Spain, and the Britgantes of south-eastern Ireland and of northern England mentioned by Ptolemy. He may, however, have also been influenced by the long medieval tradition for the links with the Iberian peninsula. As the inhabitants of Spain were called Celts, he [George Buchanan in 1582] suggested a Celtic origin for the Irish and Scots. For southern Britain he suggested colonisation from northern Gaul, especially by the Belgae." "In his Historia, Buchanan is the first author to suggest that the origin of some of the population of Ireland and the British Isles was Celtic. Only the Irish and Scots were strictly speaking Celtic, while the Britons and their successors, the Welsh, were Gallic or Belgic, and the Picts, though of Gallic origin and Gallic speaking, came from Germania." Source: The Celts: Origins, Myths and Inventions, p. 40. "For at first, the (a) Celtae, and the (b) Belgae did use a different Dialect, as Strabo thinks. Afterwards, when the Celtae sent abroad great Colonies into Spain, as the Names of the Celtiberi and Celtici do declare. And the Belgae made their descent into the Maritime parts of Britain, as may be collected from the Names of (c) Venta Belgarum, of the (d) Atrebates, and (e) Icceni" Source: George Buchanan, 1582, The History of Scotland. "How people who don't exist anymore referred to themselves 2,000 years ago isn't relevant." But it's not true that the Celts "don't exist anymore and hence their name is up for grabs by foreign Brits", not at all.. In fact the descendants of the Celts - the people who actually called themselves Celts in western Iberia - still exist as the Portuguese and the Galicians. They are the only ones who can rightfully be called Celts and therefore you should stop trying to steal their name, legacy and cultural items. "In modern day English Celt refers to speakers of a language family, not a specific ethnicity." No language, not even "Modern day English", gets to define PROPER NOUNS. No langauge gets to define Names. You can define words, but not names. The name Celt is already taken by the ancestors of the Portuguese and the Galicians. Hence the Irish can only be known as Hibernians, Fenians, or whatever else they want, just not Celts, because that name is taken, and no language can steal a name and an identity from another people.
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  31.  @minutemansam1214  "Celtic studies or Celtology is the academic discipline occupied with the study of any sort of cultural output relating to the Celtic-speaking peoples (i.e. speakers of Celtic languages). This ranges from linguistics, literature and art history, archaeology and history, the focus lying on the study of the various Celtic languages, living and extinct.[1] The primary areas of focus are the six Celtic languages currently in use: Irish, Scottish Gaelic, Manx, Welsh, Cornish, and Breton." The current President of the International Congress for Celtic Studies, Dr. Patrick Sims-Williams, agrees that the Irish and Scottish are not Celtic and that the Celts were an ethnicity whose ancestors have descendants today in the Protuguese and the Galicians. I sent you a lecture to watch about this for proof: Celts and the End of Roman Britain by John Collis here on YouTube on the Royal Archaeological Institute channel. Good luck, maybe you can learn something up-to-date.
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  32.  @stgibbs86  "The celts in iberia moved there from france bringing the culture with them." That never happened. There were no movements of people in western Europe after the Bell Beaker phenomenon. There is simply no archaeological evidence for any western Europe migration after 3,000 BC.
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  33.  @helgaioannidis9365  "I'm sorry to show my ignorance so blatantly, but I was convinced Celts used to live in large parts of Europe once and later got pushed more to the west of the continent. " Read "An Alternative to Celtic from the East and Celtic from the West" by Patrick Sims-Williams the current President of the International Congress for Celtic Studies so you can disabuse yourself of that outdated view. The Celts were only the tribes in western Iberia who called themselves Celts. No one knows what Hallstatt and La Tene people spoke.
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  34.  @stgibbs86  " There you are appealing to authority again, which is a fallacy. "the opinions of academic linguists" who themselves have an agenda to push. " You must have misread me as I never said that.
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  35.  @stgibbs86  "You missed that point that this video was all about culture and linguistics and not genetics. The celtic CULTURE came from around the alps, FYI." There is NO SUCH THING as "Celtic Culture", that is a Romanticist, Victorian, Nordicist invention by pseudoscientic academics conducting Biblical research. Read about the invention of the concept of kulturgruppen. It happened in the 19th century. It's not something that exists in reality, it's a post-modernist idea that steals the identity of the Celts.
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  36.  @brawndothethirstmutilator9848  "Not only that, but you don’t even respect the traditional Norse conception of who is Norse — which is that you could marry into the culture and be Norse, and you could even live among the people adopting the culture and become fully Norse irrespective of genetics." No you could not, Mr. Leftist. We all know some are attempting to erase the legacy of Europeans. Go away. You don't belong in this discussion.
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  37.  @helgaioannidis9365  " from your point of view today Hungarians are not Hungarians. And today Turks are not Turks. " That is EXACTLY RIGHT. Hungarians are not Hungarians - they are Germans, Slavs and Iranians, in order of most to least genetics, and only their Orseg tribe/people are still Hungarian. And yes the Turks are not Turks and they haven't been Turks since Ancient Greek times when they were already mostly of Mediterranean/Anatolian descent. They are only 17% Turkic on average today. Stop changing the ethnic names of peoples and stealing them just to create academic labels - that contributes to the deracination of people and the forgetting of their culture. You don't want to do that, do you?
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  38.  @minutemansam1214  "Yes, actually, they do [tribes become other tribes] and it happens all the time." Not, they don't. Not in western Europe since the Bell Beaker phenomenon, they don't. That was the last time ethnogenesis happened in western Europe.
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  39.  @stgibbs86  "LOL tell that to the gauls who migrated all over the place. Ever heard of galatians in the bible? It was written for a church in the province of galatia, a place in turkey named for the gauls, a group using the celtic culture, who moved there." Both Gauls and Galatians called themselves "Galli" as both their names attest (Gaul isn't a name in antiquity, the name was Galli, not related to Gaul, but related to Galatians). Neither of them called themselves "Celts". Only Victorian, Romanticist, Nordicist British academics ever called Gauls, Galatians, Irish and Scottish people "Celts". Even the Ligures spoke Celtic and the Greeks made sure to call them "NOT a Celtic people".
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  40.  @stgibbs86  "Seems you have a bias against the 1800s. Who cares when the term was coined, it exists and is an accurate representation of a valid idea." That's just the point - it's important to know when it was coined because it was coined incorrectly: > "The term 'Celtic' to describe the language group is an eighteenth-century innovation, and was due to a misconception that modern Breton was a survival of the language of the ancient Celts who lived in Gaul rather than a more recent introduction from Britain." Source: Collis, James. The Celts: Origins, Myths and Inventions, p. 223. "Thats what language is for bud." No, language is not for "stealing the name of southwestern European tribes so that Irish and Scottish people can shower themselves in that name they never used in their entire history just because they dislike their native names of Hibernian and Caledonian". No, it's not for that. "Yes culture absolutely exists, there is no denying that. Irish culture is different from scottish which is different from english, different from russia, different from arabian, different from african, different from native american and so on and so forth." But the concept of "kulturgruppe" that was invented in the 19th century and which is responsible for the false labels "celtic culture" and "celtic language" is a false concept. Please watch here on youtube the video "Celts and the End of Roman Britain" by John Collis where he explains all of this.
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  41.  @augustsnowfall5189  "The Congress of Celtic Studies that regulates?…signifies to me a person paid to spread the wantonly narrative’s of the days political agendas. Do tell me who pays this man’s wages and salary?" Let's just save time and you tell me the refutation to their arguments.
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  42.  @brettrichards2972  "dude what is the matter with you the Irish in their personal and earliest accounts attested they sailed to era from Iberia the northwest corner which is called Galicia from which they are called Gales which are a Celtic people to which they referred to themselves as when the sub Roman. Begin they even retreated back to those areas which helped to reinforce the Celtic cultural identity of Spain" All that is correct. Hence the conclusion should be that the Iberians are the Celts, not the Irish. That was the conclusion that George Buchanan arrived at in 1582 when he said "Irish and Scottish are Celtic languages".
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  43.  @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi  "you must be trolling because we in Ireland are exceptionally proud of our Celtic heritage. " No way. Fintan O'Toole the literary editor of The Irish Times has already published long ago an uncontroversial article you can still find online where he explains why the Irish are not Celtic in any way. You must have missed that, and the usual native Irish proud which in its informed form knows Celtic is not a part of their history. "There is no mistaking the undeniable fact that we're an ethnically Celtic people," The Irish never used the name "Celtic" for themselves nor did anyone else. There is no doubt the Irish are NOT Celtic ethnically. "with a Celtic culture and language to prove our heritage's existence in the modern day." "Celtic culture" does not exist, it is a 19th century invention claled "kulturgruppe" which has been since refuted.
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  44. ​ @brettrichards2972  "the worst most ludacris scholars. The viewpoint that the Irish are not Celtic is just more political whitewashing of history. And it is extremely offensive as there are not only 6 million people living in Ireland but one of the worlds largest diaspora and we are all proud Celts" Everything you said is extremely offensive to the Portuguese for the same reasons, because they are the only people whose ancestors actually called themselves "Celts" in antiquity. The Irish never did.
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  45.  @stgibbs86  "It would be foolish to say that the only people who are celtic are those who called themselves celts." How exactly would that be foolish? It would be definitional: Norwegian social anthropologist Fredrik Barth concluded "that the only sure indication of identity is self-ascription, or what people say that they are". Source: 1969. Introduction. In F. Barth (ed.), Ethnic Groups and Boundaries: The Social Organization of Culture Difference, pp. 9-38. London: Allen and Unwin.
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  46.  @stgibbs86  "Who cares what the current president of the ICCS says? There you are appealing to authority again. Try using actual facts like historians of the past did." It's an appeal TO YOU TO READ THEIR ARGUMENTS. Just go and read them so I don't have to repeat them. They're free online.
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  47.  @stgibbs86 "You do understand the difference between a roman lanugage and a romance language, right? And you do understand what culture is, like art work, language and things like that, right?" Romance comes from the word "Romanice" which we could say "Romanic" is on the same level as "Celtic". So speaking "Romanic" (Romance with a different spelling) does not make the French "Roman", therefore speaking "Celtic" does not make the Irish "Celt". Regardless, the Irish don't speak Celtic anyways, they SPOKE HIBERNIAN and now they speak ENGLISH so are they GERMAN now because they speak a Germanic language? Say they are, according to your rules you have to.
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  48.  @stgibbs86 " Sorry but lots of tribes mix with other tribes and become new ones. Look at how the franks mixed with the gallo romans to become the french. Or the normans with the anglo saxons to become english." Yeah but you can't mix Gaels and Hibernians and get Celts, lol. You can only get Celts where they lived by calling themselves that way, and that was only in western Iberia.
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  49. Gaels were never called Celts.
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  50. They are not "Hispanic", only outsiders call them that. They see themselves as "mestizos" and NOT as "hispanics" AT ALL. Only Americans think in those terms.
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