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@akshsehgal998 Irish is not Celtic. They are just Celtic-speakers, but not Celts. They are ethnically Gaels. They were never historically called Celts.
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@auld_boy This is good information and thank you for sharing it.
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Gauls invaded it in historical times.
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@ItalMiser117 They for sure did not. They arrived there around 500-400 BC.
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Notice how France is never "Celtia". It's always "Gallia". That's because proper Celtica and the actual people who called themselves Celts existed only in Iberia (Celtiberia, Celtici, and the Celti of Lusitania - this is how they called themselves in their tombstones).
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No, Celts are not everywhere... they are only in western Iberia - those were the only people who called themselves Celts, namely the Lusitani who called themselves Celti in their tombstones. Everyone else are just "Celtic-speakers", not "Celts".
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The British and Irish and Welsh were never Celts. They are only Celtic-speakers. They are not descendants of the ancient Celts. The descendants of the people who called themselves Celts are in western Iberia.
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This is outdated. The Celts have nothing to do with Halstatt and La Tene anymore. Read Patrick Sims-Williams "An alternative to Celtic from the East and Celtic from the West" for the refutation. He is the President of the International Congress for Celtic Studies.
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Scottish and Irish people are not Celts. They are just Celtic-speakers. Just like the French are not Romans. They are just Romance-speakers. Scottish and Irish people were never historically called Celts. You are Scotti, Goidels, Gaels, etc, but not Celts.
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@angleofshadow9818 Let's not waste time with rhetoric.
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@TensionHipHop "spitting image" means it's not the same, just an image. Also " you goofball the fact that they are celtic speakers makes them celts" actually it doesn't. If I learn Gaelic am I a Gael now? If I learn Welsh am I Welsh now?
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@RexNicolaus "How are the Welsh not descendants of the celts?" Because none of their ancestors ever called themselves Celts and none of their ancestors were ever called Celts by the ancient Greco-Romans. Simple as this. "They genetically have more Celtic DNA than the English and Scottish in Britain." No, they genetically have more Britonnic DNA than the English and Scottish in Britain. Their ethnicity is Britonnic as that is the name they natively used for themselves in Greco-Roman times. "Even the word “Wales” meant “foreigner” to the Anglo-Saxons." Wales is from "Volcae". No connection to the name "Celt".
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@ Watch the first episode of The Celtic World by The Great Courses and Professor Jennifer Paxton PhD. She explains how no one in the British Isles nor Ireland was ever historically associated with the name "Celt". Rather, the reason there was a region called "Celtiberia" was because it was between "Iberia" to its east (the Spanish Levant) and "Celtia" to its west (the territory of Portugal and Galicia). She shows that map twice calling Portugal and Galicia "Celts" and she never ever puts the name "Celts" in any British nor Irish map. She is careful to be historically accurate. The reason she does this is because epigraphic tombstones with personal names starting with the prefix "Celt-" and ending in all sorts of productive local suffixes (proving its originality to that territory) are only found strictly in the territory of Lusitania, out of all possible places in Europe. Right north and south of Lusitania where "Celt-" occurred, "Celtic-" occurred more often, down to south Portugal and up to Galicia. In Celtiberia, "Celtiber-" names dominated, and no "Celt-" nor "Celtic-" names are found.
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@black_hand78 "so yes the gaels and other groups are in fact all Celtic." No, they are Gaelic. The people who called themselves Celts and who were called Celts by Greeks and Romans were in western Iberia and southern Gallia. no one has ever called Gaelic people "Celts" and they never called themselves that either.
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@RexNicolaus "Gaelic is part of the larger Celtic group." Only since the 1800s an only because in 1582 George Buchanan suggested calling the Gaelic languages "Celtic" because, and I quote, "they probably came from the Celtici of Spain". Hence the label "Celtic languages" were in no way meant to imply "the Welsh and Irish are ethnically Celts", not at all. The people who called themselves Celts and who are historically associated with that name exist only in western Iberia and in southern France - nowhere else. Gaelic speakers are not Celts.
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@RexNicolaus It's on Amazon!
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@RexNicolaus "Celtic people are a large conglomerate of people but not a definitive identity, considering what little information we have about them." This is wrong - this is what I'm trying to communicate to you. Celtic people are not "a large conglomerate of people but not a definitive identity", on the contrary, they're a very definitive identity, seeing that they identified themselves from 200 BC to 200 AD in tombstones in western Iberia using the names "Celti", "Celtici", "Celtiati", "Celtius", etc. So they are a very definitive identity, you just so happen to not know about it. "That George Buchanan character and the statement you mentioned is not a definitive way of saying that’s what everyone believes about the Celts today. May have spread a myth? Maybe. But studies have been made well before his time, even dating back centuries prior." Actually there were no studies about Celts before his time, he was the first in modern times, and the point is he started calling these languages Celtic because he thought they came from the Celtici of Spain. Whether true or not, the point is, they were NAMED "Celtic" BECAUSE OF SPAIN, not because anyone ever thought any Britons were "Celts", because no one ever did. Do you understand the point now? "Gauls and Gaels are a Celtic sub group." No, they're not. This is some modernist agreement with no formality or academic support. Gauls in the past never called themselves Celts neither did Gaels. So no, they're not Celts. "Celts started to appear in the British Isles around 1000 BC" No they didn't, nothing in 1000 BC said "Celt" in the name and went to the British Isles. We may call those people "Celtic speakers" today but at the time of 1000 BC they did not call themselves Celts, hence they were not Celts. "With all that being said, I don’t know how you’re basing everything you understand off one film you mentioned and one 16th gentleman who made a statement about the Celts. Many studies you’re going up against. " I'm basing what I'm saying on tombstones. The only tombstones in all of Europe self-identifying as "Celts" are in western Iberia. Hence they're the only Celts because they are actually the only ones who called themselves Celts. What modern academics decide to call "Celts" is immaterial because those names are arbitrarily chosen. But "Celts" in the tombstones in western Iberia was not arbitrary, it was their native names. Watch the movie-documentary on Amazon I told you about and you'll learn it all. Did you watch it? Did you find it?
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@RexNicolaus I am being honest. I'll have a phone conversation with you if you want. George Buchanan in 1582 was literally the first anglophone to use the word "Celtic" for languages. Before that it was only used in English-speaking world to talk about "Celtic fields" in poems.
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That was war propaganda and is not reliable.
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@TensionHipHop That parallel makes no sense. Irish are a Gaelic people. They were never called Celts and they never called themselves Celts. That's all you need to know about them not being Celts. Speaking Celtic does not make anyone a Celt, just like speaking Romance does not make anyone Roman.
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@smokeyhoodoo Strabo and Diodorus Siculus both said exactly the same thing about the Gauls, while criticizing Julius Caesar's division of Gaul (and praising the division by Augustus): "In all of Gallia, there are only Celts in the South: in the cities of Massilia (Marseille) and Narbo (Narbonne); everywhere else in Gallia there are no Celts; north and east of these Celts from Massilia and Narbo there are only Gallians, not Celts." Sources: Strabo: Geographia 4.1.1; 4.1.14; 4.4.1. Diodorus Siculus: 5.32.1. Even though Caesar called Gallia Lugdunensis (the middle one) as "Celtica", he was so criticized by Strabo and Siculus that Augustus, when renaming and reshapoing the provinces, took the name "Celtica" away from "Gallia Lugdunensis" and gave it to the southern "Gallia Narbonensis" precisely because "Celts in Gallia, only in the South".
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@ "The English are genetically Celtic" No, they are genetically half Briton, half Saxon. "Be proud of your Celtic ancestors bro, not ashamed of them." Stop being ashamed of the name Briton. That's your historical ancestral name, not "Celtic" which was only used natively in southern France and western Iberia.
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@xtramail4909 But the point is, the Irish never called themselves Celts, the way that western Iberians did, particularly in Lusitania, in their own tombstones.
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@xtramail4909 "No one originally called themselves Celts." Yes they did, western Iberians did: "It must also be significant that of the approximately 25 occurrences of the name Celtius in Hispania all of them come from Lusitania excepting one from Marañón (Navarra) on IRMN 53 8. All the occurrences of other names from the stem kelt- such as Celtienus, Celtiatus, Celtiatis, Arceltius, Conceltius, etc. come from Western Hispania, too." "Celtic was a culture and they were written about by both Greeks and Romans." No, it wasn't, it was initially a tribal name just like "Illyrian" which then got expanded only some times in some Greeks and Romans only, while others like Siculus and Strabo always knew that Celts were tribes and corrected the wrong usage of Caesar and others. "If in Western Iberia there was a group of Celts who eventually picked up the name Celt, it isn’t because they came up with the name themselves." It is indeed they who came up with the name, and then Herodotus first picked it up (after Hecataeus) by identifying the Celts as living only west of the Strait of Gibraltar, which coincides perfectly with the tombstones of people names "Celt-" in western Iberia.
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Irish and Scottish are not Celts, just Celtic-speakers.
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@wellgaroa If you're Brazilian then you're likely more Celtic than anyone in the British Isles (and yes I include Ireland in the term British Isles). "Celtic culture" can only rightfully come from a people who called themselves Celts, not from a people who simply speak a Celtic language and as such are only Celtic speakers, not Celts. The Lusitanians are said to be the ancestors of the Portuguese. However, what is not very widely known is that in their tombstones, they never use the name "Lusitani", but they do use the name "Celti". And they don't just use that name, they use that name more than any other tribe in Europe. And that name is not found once in any British Isles. Have a nice day, my Celt friend (real Celt, not "Celtic speaker" who stretches that fact to call themselves "Celts", which would be like Brazilians stretching the fact they speak Romance to proclaim they are the Romans).
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This is entirely incorrect. Gaul and Gallia are not cognates.
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@thomasmarren2354 No. Speaking Celtic does not make anyone "ethnically Celtic". Also it is not the proper way to derive ethnic names from languages. Language names are actually derived from ethnicities. You cannot call people "Celtic" because they speak a Celtic language just as you cannot call a people Roman for speaking a Romance language. It's the other way around. Irish, Scottish, etc are Gaelic people and therefore they speak Gaelic languages. Only academics call incorrectly "Celtic" some things.
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That is all outdated info. Read Patrick Sims-Williams.
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You did not address any of the recent academic research on Celts. You're still treating Celts as if they were the Hallstatt and La Tene cultures and ancestors of the Welsh, British and Irish. Patrick Sims-Williams has already refuted your entire video in his pivotal paper "An alternative to Celtic from the East and Celtic from the West".
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It doesn't matter because Hallstatt and La Tene were not Celts. The information in this video is woefully outdated.
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@ No. Read Patrick Sims-Williams "An Alternative to Celtic from the East and Celtic from the West". That is where it was refuted the last time. Dr. Sims-Williams is the President of the International Congress for Celtic Studies. La Tene could have been Pannonian, Germanic or Italic. But there is no proof either way.
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" I will be using your extensive knowledge" All the knowledge in this video is outdated. Read Patrick Sims-Williams's paper.
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@angleofshadow9818 Okay none of that engages my arguments.
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@angleofshadow9818 Keep distorting facts just to try to be called a Celt. You'll never be a true Celt.
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@angleofshadow9818 Language can be fundamental but it doesn't name people. People name languages after themselves.
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