Comments by "serafina costa" (@serafinacosta7118) on "Patrick Boyle"
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This stands as an obvious initiative, and it is a repeat and rinse Brazilian Officials did during the 50’s. Setup shop here provide jobs and taxes , or go sell your cars somewhere else. That is how we developed a domestic auto parts manufacturing sector , large enough they ended up bought by Americans.
Biggest obstacle to EV adoption in Brazil isn’t tax levies on imports . It is the lack of any charging network where it needs to be .
This obstacle is compounded by a number of factors, namely
1. Charge time , at best , takes up at least half hour on a full recharge . There are barely any charging stations on large metro areas , let alone a network , in a magnitude as Tesla’s.
2. If ever was the possibility to deploy a charge network , large cities lack adequate real estate to house charge stations.
2.1. Apartment buildings ? Unless brand new and devised by the developer , though luck getting the condo association to ratify it.
2,2. Curbside ? Suuuure. Wait for the looting.
2.3. Your carport ? Wait until you see the install costs estimate or the lease terms.
2,4. Strip malls or power centers ? They are non existing in Brazil. No stroads, and parking in Brazilian medium to large cities are at premium.
2.5 Fuel Stations. They can barely hang at 5% margins on refuels , and they are giving away prime real estate so some hombre can recharge for free ? Pay up my asking rent or go someplace else Mr Charge Network Operator.
3. Charging on Tesla is a highly subsidized endeavor. I do not see Brazilian Utilities , who own the monopoly on power delivery and transport , giving their electric power for free. Demand increases, so will do their rates. Good luck having Aneel to stop them.
Toyota go it right. Hybrids. The Chinese… they are still trying to figure out how things work here in the plantation. My money, they will get burned, or will take them patience and money to get around these roadblocks.
We will see…
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China can attempt to dump EVs , the only problem is …. Outside with countries with a mature EV Charging Infrastructure , no other country has the capacity to create demand for such vehicles.
They can ship till the receiving ports , but that won’t materialize into dealership orders.
Outside the US , where sprawling dealership lots on suburban stroads accommodate inventory , no other country does have this operating model. It is show room, service department and not a whole lot of cars on hand to be sold.
In Brazil , for instance , charging EV infrastructure is virtually non existent , EVs ownership are an Uber rich privilege , and there aren’t enough Chinese branded dealerships around.
The only existing brands , well, Chery had to be bailed out by a Brazilian industrialist and retailer ( Caoa Group ) as their only factory was operating at 10% for ICE rollouts. JAC Motors, Lifan, Great Wall Motors , BYD , seldom any of their models are spoted around. Chery, they brand has consumed massive amounts of advertising to gain any traction.
When people around here think EV , that for hybrids , and that is Toyota. Nothing else .
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One reply here…. “ But our Tesla 3 only weights “. There is always some Joneses wanting to justify and defend their buying decision.
Now, under the same lenses , public transportation is a fine concept , but trains will ride empty , just as buses in cities ride nearly empty and transit authorities lose money, year in and out.
What is missing here….
1. Public transportation is not capilar, is not a door to door route. Not that all convenient , specially if you live in a sprawling burb.
2. The pathetic Tesla owner has the same consumeristic urge as an ICE vehicle buyer. They want their set of wheels. They want to load stuff they just bought on the trunk. They want to go from A to B at a drop of a hat. Not bound by scheduled train timetables. And certainly not wait for a ride.
3. Time is.precious , except for kids and retirees. They have all the time in the world. For the rest of our mortal urbanites and suburbanites , time is money.
If you want to have people to maintain their existing lifestyle , then a compromise would be what the Japanese do. Maximize even more cars fuel efficiency. In Japan it means Kai Cars.
Toyota tried this in the US and failed. It was the Scion line. They brought cars with zero appeal and bigger engines. If you are going to risk failure, at least bring in the real package. Some people might embrace it , after all. They tiptoed , hence the fiasco.
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