Comments by "" (@umwha) on "Based Camp with Simone & Malcolm Collins"
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Let me suggest an alternative pragmatic approach to porn and fetish.
The more you eat sugar, the more sugar you need until you eat poison daily, and it is culturally expected to eat this way.
The more porn you consume, the more extreme it gets, and with the weight of the industry behind it, it becomes normalised and draws in more people (e.g., see the normalisation of being an Only Fans girl and children being exposed to fetishes at Pride and in the education system).
Now I've largely quit sugar, I only need a tiny bit to feel satisfied, and I can taste the sweetness in things like carrots and pumpkin.
Reducing porn use would not decrease satisfaction or leave fetishes unfulfilled - rather, it would make use value the lower level content more.
Hence we ban neither sugar nor porn, but we espouse cultural values that allows us to make the most of just a little of these substances so that they do not become poisons.
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31:20 - Women have a bimodal distribution of sexual expression because historically they might be in one of two scenarios. I realised this exact same thing! The 'slave' archetype is literally a survival mechanism that is deeply encoded to be resorted to because in deep history many women had to survive like this, and play the part well enough that they would be kept. Its very dark. This is why I dislike discourse that makes light of BDSM - look at the evolutionary context, and you come to very dark places.
The other side of the coin is that, of course, male sexuality is bi- or tri-modal. Being a husband to one, or few wives, being an incel, and being a warlord. The 'Master' sexual archetype is just as evolutionarily encoded, and at its core derives from a real desire to own, rape, and torture.
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Malcolm and Simone, I really enjoyed this video. But this topic has big implications for your religion doesn’t it? Your religion seeks to be long-term by joining onto Christianity and Judaism. But your research in this video shows that Judaism and Christianity are not historically relevant. Christianity is only relevant, because it was adopted by the Roman Empire, and spread with the Romans across Europe. It’s all really about the Romans and their antecedence. Ancient Jews, scarcely matter at all historically. That Western culture is due a Christian is nothing but a thin glass on a civilization lineage many times older than Judeo Christianity. It is a lineage that religiously is pagan, many many layers of paganism from Egyptian paganism to Middle Eastern paganism to Greek paganism to Roman paganism, Each stage reduced the size of the pantheon, each stayed honed its philosophy and its religious message, and it’s cast of main characters, getting smaller and more refined until you get the expensive but straightforward Greek theogony, and the other great works, which were themselves honed and simplified in the Roman pantheon, which was shrunken down to its leanest with Christianity, which I believe is essentially Roman paganism, but with all gods, but the monad removed, the central data being sol Invictus, as you may know was the archetype that Constantine merged Jesus with.
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@Neoteny374 Genesis did not say Eve had her salvation in child baring. Child baring is a punishment by god in that story.
14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,
“Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring[i] and hers;
he will crush[j] your head,
and you will strike his heel.”
16 To the woman he said,
“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”
17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’
“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”
See? It says that her childbirth pains, rulership bu the husband and desire for the husband are punishments , not good things. The myth , in my opinion , is an attempt to understand why the condition of women is so tragic, and therefore they imagined it must be a punishment from god. They also see the condition of post agricultural man to be tragic too, portraying farming as a punishment. So it’s fair to say that they saw human life generally as tragic and requiring explanation.
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@ having lots of kids does not necessarily mean you invested in the future society. Take a look at migrant populations in Britain for instance. First generation migrant, who are Indian Pakistani or Islamic have many many many children. And have little investment in the country, and maintain our citizenship, visit our home countries, regularly, and for marriages that are outside English law,. Look at the black population, which has a high fertility rate, and low economic, and cultural contribution, and high crime. More kids do not necessarily have anything to do with a persons intentions or ability to invest in that society.
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