Comments by "sharper68" (@sharper68) on "The Humanist Report" channel.

  1. But a branch of the military for space .. we gotta have that! Trump is a mess.
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  2. +Michal Kolman She is talking in public, critiquing her incoherence is more than fair. This woman pretends that she is relevant and pointing out her abject failure is part of the process to ensure she never is.
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  3. Until the rich care about an issue, it has no voice.
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  4. I hope there is push back, the rest of the workers should step up. Do not do any interviews in store. Get your union despite them. Oh, wrongful dismissal cases are called for here.
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  5. As he changes his name to Jim.
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  6. There were lied to and shipped to a different state than they were registered to visit Monday morning. The class action law suit is a slam dunk.
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  7. This is the very first time the GOP pretended to care about civil rights issues ...
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  8. James Fletcher No loss in that, that she was brave enough to stand up for what she believes in when most politicians would not have if they were not guaranteed a win makes her a winner not a loser to those who value character. Never be elected? Who do you imagine in her district that is going to beat her? And what about the timing was "convenient", what are you even implying?
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  9. They generally hate civil rights, this is just more fake outrage based on ignorance.
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  10. Got news for you sparky, unvaccinated is not a protected class. We have always discriminated against those who elect not to get the shot in the interest of public health. You have always needed vaccinations to go to school or to fly to specific countries. If you choose not get to get vaccinated that is on you. You are like a mennonite complaining no one will hire him to drive a bus he refuses to drive. The limitation is entirely on him and his choices.
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  11. Because their lives are empty and small.
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  12. What was she doing several times in the men's room.
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  13.  @youknow9092  They passed it then immediately enacted the southern strategy to co-opt the racist south from the democrats who actually changed tack and supported minorities for a change. They changed spots of owning the bigots around that time.
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  14. She does not, no one does
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  15. Hilarious spin from the most divisive people in the country.
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  16.  @youknow9092  Their focus changed, the clearly racist democrats let go of running on being racist and the GOP picked it up. They literally admitted the southern strategy was to take racist votes away from dems. Because they did so, the GOP took the south. As the Dems stepped away from overt bigotry they earned the vote of minorities. Both were still establishment shills but the parties did trade constituencies. None of this is complex. Factually proven is not a phrase you should ever use to back up your spin.
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  17. +Paul Kay Their system kicks ours up and down the street. Your characterization is false and their system works just fine while not bankrupting a single citizen. Any claim their system is failing is overtly false, a lie, not true. Rich people come to america as the system is great if you have unlimited money but is the #1 reason for bankruptcy in the US. Private insurance offers zero value to the process of health care as they are a middle man they ensure we have no cost control and is the reason for the sky rocketing costs here as they just pass rising costs to us. We pay the most of any system in the world while getting considerably worse outcomes for the majority. People hold off getting things checked because of high copays ensuring many die of otherwise treatable issues that would have been corrected anywhere else. The existing system is expensive and the only way it is good is if you measure how much money it generates for key players involved. If you care about ensuring affordable care for all then our system is not the way to go. You are either simple or a shill, either way people are tired of lining insurance companies pockets while they act as the real death panels. The days of our broken system are numbered.
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  18. No they are telling everyone how they can dress with power of law? I guess these genius leaders handled every other issue if this is the last one they get to.
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  19.  @youknow9092  It is inarguable that the south was once democrat and that changed. It is inarguable that the KKK now votes for the GOP when they once voted democrat. Please explain how nothing changed when they clearly did, facts are not your thing ....
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  20. Those who vocally supported hillary are defacto republicans in all but name, they are owned by the same interests. They an establishment element of the party and are paid to lose, they literally hate half their base and progressives in general.
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  21. Let them divide up the "moderate" vote, that serves us.
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  22. These guys are clueless and that some buy their nonsense does not mean they are credible outside a pretty small bubble. Just listening to her talk breaks their assertions up hard and I would put her spin against theirs every day .. it is hard to make her look evil even for these liars.
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  23. Why would anyone stand up for these powerful grifters who appear to have no ethical standards at all.
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  24.  @CMilliron1988  This issue is long adjudicated. We have had mass immunization requirements in the past and we will have them in the future. You are spitting nonsense. You are applying law that we regularly have ignored at our pleasure and does not apply to requirements around getting a vaccine that protects public health. If you choose to not get vaccinated that is on you. There are limitations associated with making that choice in the interest of public safety. No one should be saddled with the ramifications of your religious views, no ones safety should be imperiled because of your ignorant fear.
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  25.  @CMilliron1988  They can not be sued, unvaccinated is not a protected class. This issue has nothing to do with civil rights. No one should ever take any legal advice from you. Good rule of thumb, if the group you seek civil protections for is not listed in the groups protected by the civil rights act your distinction is not protected. If you can not find the reference to the unvaccinated in the act it means they are not protected by it. Not exactly a complex idea, let it sink in before you respond again.
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  26. +Andrew91919191 I know a few cancer survivors from Canada. They got prompt and professional care and were not bankrupted by the process as a nice bonus. The spin anyone is dying from waiting for treatment for critical issues is nonsense and your cancer care is considered some of the best in the world.
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  27. Desi Guy No one trusts you!  I will trust my lying eyes and ears and reject your testimonial as the same garbage I hear all the time from insurance shills.  You do not have any answer for the massive failure that our system is or that it literally is killing people as we speak.   Emergency care is the most expensive way of doing health care.  It means the tax payer picks up that expense costing us billions when we could just be covering normal care at a fraction of the cost.   The lines in Canada are not appreciably longer than in the states and they are quick if the issue is critical.  No one dies because they can't get care in Canada and the same can not be said of the states not to mention the many who go bankrupt because they commit the sin of getting sick.  You are not expected to dish out 500 to a 1000 of your own cash for a co pay if you get hurt and need care.   Their system is cheaper and I know of no one that craves the expensive american version who lives there. Very few Canadians go to the states and if they are willing to pay they should do so. Not everyone has the option and on balance they have a much better deal.  
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  28. Trump has a 100 things he has done that warrant investigation. Bernie has done literally nothing that merits it.
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  29. Or the fact the media openly pushes one candidate over others in the primaries. There is a great deal of rigging going on no one in the establishment cares to talk about.
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  30. This needs to be in court presently ...
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  31. For us all ..
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  32.  jerry lee lewis  This is not true. The demographic with the lowest vaccine take up are republican voters from deep red states. If your idiot assertion was true we would have expositions of covid in blue states not the red ones.
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  33. just subbed ... will watch for her content.
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  34. It is a huge win ;)
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  35. When you have no good arguments smear and misrepresent your opponents, that is the only move the GOP and the establishment Dems have left.
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  36. +Gene C And so we are concerned.
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  37. Just needed a run .. ignore the tears in my eyes.
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  38. No one is grooming kids to be anything but kind to people different than them. Hardly a 911 issue.
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  39.  @whyamimrpink78  We know what unity is to you, cops murdering unarmed citizens while people sit silent, corporations robbing us blind while food banks run out, stripping woman of the right to choose unilaterally. Very inclusive. That the GOP throws red meat to it's base is designed to be DIVISIVE. That a minority percentage of the voters like the draconian and messed up law the GOP passed does not mean it is not divisive. Pretending you ever ever wanted any unity besides driving those you oppose under your boot puts a lie to the assertion. You loathe any unity as you do not respect anyone else's views. When your views are repressive and self severing declaring you value unity is a hard sell. I know what you are and unity is not your thing. So your crying about not getting it is pretty empty.
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  40. Usually do not agree with Trump on anything, on this he is not that far off. We agree even though it is for entirely different reasons. Mitch is terrible, anything that speeds his departure from the public stage is good.
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  41. @jshowa o Lol, indeed.
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  42.  @CMilliron1988  The constitution does not protect your right to spread communicable disease. Your asserted ignorance does not afford you any special or additional rights.
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  43. +Stephen Thomposn This is a narrative with zero legs. Everyone knows why she lost except a handful of die hards who would have voted for the democrat anyway.
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  44. Red Pill No one thinks the state magics money out of thin air to pay for it. The state collects it and you end up paying a fraction of what you pay to insurance companies for your care. You are already paying double what the average Canadian pays for the same service to insurance companies that offer you zero value. Because the insurance pool is huge the costs are mitigated across the entire population keeping them lower than the system we have now where there are no controls. Right now insurance companies just pay whatever and then pass the costs on to you. That is why our costs are spinning out of control. It is not clear you understand the nature of money or even the subject at hand. The ideas I am speaking of are proven and in action right now as living models which do a much better job than ours. Our system is not about choice it is about money for a handful at the cost of the entire population Your whole democracy rant is nonsense as we can pass laws like this and medicare is an example. I live in reality where I have examples to point to that is not what you have.
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  45. Red Pill I do not have to shut you down, you have no power. I have answered every single nonsense assertion you have made and I am pretty sure at this point you have not read a word I typed except to look for phrases that trigger you. Modern socialism has nothing to do with the promotion of the rich and its history is far less of concern than what it stands for now. It is akin to the brands in Scandinavia or that we had in the days before our golden years of the late 40's. As you babble about dependency on the state it hides of a euphemism for the creation of the shanty towns and crowds of abject poor we see in the 3rd world. It is a literal race to the bottom handing control to the rich and powerful with no check on them. This does nothing for almost anyone except the very very few at the top and is step on the path to true tyranny. The price of paying a pittance in taxes is more than worth the society we live in and all of the "free" societies in the world are nothing but backward holes. If your spin had any merit you would have at least one success story, the fact is you do not. I support Marx the same amount you do, not at all. Your silly straw man field of pretending anyone left of you is a communist is ridiculous. It is base stupid pretending what I am arguing for is remotely similar to communism and it is the goal of no one of importance. To pretend otherwise is dishonest or base dumb. I hate no one, and I consider no one "better than me". That some have more resources because of luck, guile or connections does not make them better. I do believe that we should all pay our share and when you have much more it is more than reasonable you pay more as you gain more benefits not to mention you can afford it without changing your life. There is nothing envious or hateful about that position and it is more than arguable your defense of greed and hoarding does not exactly ring of virtue. Your assertions are the same fact free nonsense I see from your ilk. By your spin it seems you have a declaration from the courts that backs you up. It in fact is not unconstitutional or a challenge would have already been brought. Please cite the case that you base your claim on because I do not see one. What you and your friends think is unconstitutional means as much as what my dog thinks. Cite the case that backs you up or stop making dishonest assertions. The last 40 years since 1970 have seen a massive transfer of wealth from the middle class to the richest. This is attached to the relaxing of campaign laws starting around that time. Over time corporations and the super rich have bought our leaders and have shaped trade, tax and labor policy to favor them transferring vast amounts of wealth from the massive productivity of modern workers while leaving salaries flat absorbing all gains. The current crop of leaders at a federal level on both sides are paid shills of who ever dumps cash in their elections. This has been facilitated by the same people who promote your ultra libertarian spin which would only empowers them further. Our failures and decline are not attached to socialist policy and we have the weakest social safety net in the first world and the most expensive mess of "free market" heath care anywhere. Until we vote for leaders who make decisions based on their constituencies needs and their own principles we will continue to see decline. The costs you point to are not a hindrance to business and in fact it ensures the stable prosperous clean market they need to make money. Those are all costs and in any given business they represent a tiny fraction of all costs of production. No one is just breaking even because of regulations and complaining they are all bad is silly as some are more certainly necessary. Talk about specific regulations and how the harm business and we are likely to agree, blame all the failures on them and you are not going to be attached to reality. I would argue they should not force employers to offer health care at all and instead offer an option for everyone to opt into a public program. I think we should be able to buy into private programs as well forcing real competition. I do not think I am smarter than the founders of the country but I have almost 250 years of perspective on my side they never did. They never expected the country to remain static and added a facility for amendments for a reason. Since then things have changed and that you want to roll back to the 1700's quaint but has all the value of a horse and buggy. You sir are part of no majority and have not been in living memory. You guys did not even win the popular vote forgetting the fact it is a safe bet even most of trumps voters do not buy your spin.
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  46.  @jasonkennedy3666  So how do you feel about Trump's dishonesty skills? He is a serial liar, when you catch up let me know.
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  47. When you have to lie about those you disagree with then it is clear you have no actual arguments to make in your defense of your ideas. Your poor media choices are making you look silly.
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  48.  @frankpalancio8471  That they support Hamas, naked dishonesty or overt ignorance looks the same I guess.
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  49. If they have not figured it out yet, will they ever?
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  50.  @madsgrams2069  The idea there has been massive shift to the right rings as hyperbolic to me and I am as a rule pretty sensitive to these things. It may be because I am so overexposed to all kinds of trans issue reporting that I did not see or register the most problematic of what she said. As I acknowledge some of what she said has clearly angered the community. she is still a Trans/LGBT ally. Even if she is sometimes a faulty one. I have a hard time accepting the labeling her as right wing as it seems overblown and just like classic TYT hater talk.
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  51.  @StoriesByDighe  Except they barely pulled it off with Biden and a crowd of losers they knew. Not a trick I expect to work twice.
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  52. Red Pill So? It does not mean anything of the kind and your defense of useless and needlessly expensive insurance companies is not a rally cry of freedom but treadmill of tyranny to their profit. There is nothing that is working in favor of "freedom" for the vast majority as it ties them to jobs they need just to ensure their family is covered. We are stifling innovation and the entrepreneurial spirit to foster a dependence on insurance giants who have no other goal but to make profit. Health care is not a free market commodity and when you need care you often do not have the luxury of shopping around. No matter what you are going to "buy" the product. It is the sale of oxygen and just like selling air it means some are not going to be able to afford it and will die if the only way to get it is to pay money they do not have. If you point at the emergency room loop hole you are using the most expensive form of taxpayer funded health care and it is literally pouring our money down a hole with bodies at the bottom of it You are in favor of a bankrupt system that bankrupts its victims not because of taxes but because of ridiculous health care bills. Your position is untenable to the educated. One way or another the only way a system works is if someone insures it. Single payer systems are simply insurance systems funded by the state with no profit motive and a mandate to provide care. They help control costs and ensure everyone get the medical care they need in a much more efficient and seamless way than the expensive and convoluted way we do it.
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  53. Central bank and income tax are not "communist" ideas, you need to learn what the terms you use mean as it makes you look clueless when you use them wrong. You keep using the word socialist like it is dirty with no merit. Anything the government does with public money is "socialist" a standing army, socialist, a public police for socialist, a court system socialist, etc. Just being against socialism is to hate anything done by any government and the other option is chaos or the will to hand power to someone who does not work for the people it serves. There are universal rights in a democracy protected by the constitution, that you do not get to set policy only makes sense as there is no reason you should as the minority. Like I said before you are more concerned about theft the deaths you ignore with the promotion of your spin. Us "socialists" care about peoples welfare more than an argument the rich should contribute nothing they do not want to give. The rest of the successful places on the planet recognize they live in a society, you do not believe in them and belong in a place like Somalia where your ideas are in play. Trying to claim the success we built is not valid and you need to build a successful society with your ideas not ours if you ever want to be taken seriously.
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  54. philomelodia The joke is you would end up paying less even with higher taxes if you no longer needed to pay for insurance. We waste tons of money on things no american needs and it is time our leaders start focusing on our needs and not their donors.
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  55. Because it is a nothing story that will go no where.
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  56. Jeremy Elliot Morons who do not know what communism is and think anyone they disagree with is one.
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  57. Lemmy Fuque Empty nonsense as you support overt crooks who are robbing us as we speak.
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  58. The view simping for a establishment fossil like Diane is an example of how the media fails us.
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  59. At least he understands how we feel about the entire DNC and their donors. We think they should get out as they will lose with Biden, we care about winning far more than they do.
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  60.  @jasonkennedy3666  One group is innately divisive, so divisive they ignorantly pretend their opponents are communist/fascists while propping up literal wanna be fascists.
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  61.  @whyamimrpink78  I never expected any gop voter to embrace unity, pretending he has moved away from his promises is empty nonsense. He is doing exactly what he promised to do, act like a corporately controlled democrat. Republican light. The republicans have fallen off a right wing cliff.
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  62.  @LittleAl016  Nailed it!
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  63.  @jasonkennedy3666  If you ever believed that he could engender unity with a significant percentage of GOP voters that think he is communist you have not been paying attention. There was never any chance unity was to be had, a quick glance at how the gop votes puts that in stone.
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  64.  @attilamarics4808  When you talk all I hear is the buzzing of an extra dopy fly.
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  65. Brian K everyone in this thread hates the establishment democrats and opposes them. They are crooked but are the Washington generals to GOP's Harlem globe trotters of corruption. They GOP does not even pretend to not be owned so stop with your stupid spin in defense of overt and naked corruption. Every single thing you accuse the left of is modus operandi for the right, you can not help but project your own failures onto those you oppose. Do you guys all take the same course or something to make your bizarrely ironic arguments? The cons are the past, every shit hole on the planet is deeply Conservative and all the best places to live very very liberal. No one has anything to learn from you backward clowns and you really need to stop selling the nonsense that your way of thinking is popular or the path to the future. You back regressive grandpa principles and are an authoritarian credulous throw back .. nothing more.
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  66.  @pnhnut  Nonsense, She is a kind of anti war candidate. In fact she plans on continuing the "war on terror" which has been the root of our fighting for decades and is the reason why they insist we dumping money down the hole while making things worse. Be it on Israel or Syria, the Saudi's or India I will take Bernie's foreign policy over hers any day, any day!
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  67.  @Monsoonpain  They right owns cancel culture and always has. They have always wanted to ban things they dislike, they have just failed so much we forgot that they are the snowflakes who have tried to ban everything from porn to tight pants.
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  68. Justin Archer  We should pay the people who make our country work, by giving them a cost of living increase we are not "Raising a bureaucracy". Covering working peoples wages as they perform necessary services is what I want my tax dollars spent on not another trillion dollar boondoggle that helps no one. Defending this policy while pretending more military spending on top of existing bloated military spending makes sense is base stupid and marks you as a shill or a dupe.
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  69. sharon anderson  I do not agree with the neo liberals either and want them primaried out of existence. That does not mean what trump is doing is sane or moral, we need a branch of military in space like captain bone spurs needs another solid gold sink.
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  70. Justin Archer  2.5% is the cost of living .. that is ALWAYS JUSTIFIED you do not need to do magic to get it!!! We know they perform a service and should be paid fairly. I am not sure how you justify not giving them a wage increases as it seems you have no clue what they do. If your assertion is they do nothing anyway not giving them an increases should be less than satisfactory to you. Stop with this idoicy as you are the one making the claim they do not deserve a cost of living increase in wage with zero data. This has nothing to do with them being elected, I am not sure why you think that is cogent. As an example of another boondoggle you likely supported, the Iraq war did not help you or me. It destabilized an entire region and wasted trillions of dollars costing 100's of thousands of lives. This is occurring as we live a country that has cities with toxic water, uncontrollable health care costs, massive numbers of veterans coming home to be homeless and a student loan crisis that is set to impoverish a generation. Your selling handing more cash to assholes who are abject failures (our military leadership) is a tough sell. We need space force like we need another hole in our heads. We could manage all of the threats you cite by spending half of what we do now and we would still outspend our closest rival by five times.
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  71. Justin Archer  We would have been better off with taking out Iraq for no reason and this is another boondoggle like Iraq that we do not need. You were not merely ""questioning the efficiency of bureaucrats in general" you were asserting there is no way to know if people who work of a living deserve a simple cost of living increase. You do this as you defend a new branch of the military no one is asking for including the current experts. My imagination is fine, I just do not prioritize it over my common sense.
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  72. They are at best tangentially connected to the anti trans rhetoric, I see them as allies to the community still.
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  73. Bernie is popular, Jones is is a punch line
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  74. Her doing good work matters.
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  75.  @bonchidude  This is silly, Bernie is the only indication we could ever have leaders that work for us and not the highest bidder. You are a dupe as you attack one of the only players on the board who is actually fighting for us. Almost the entire rest of the field is entirely owned and does not even pretend otherwise.
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  76. Only easy to pick out minorities they openly hate.
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  77. These tax cuts are cancer, only halfwits are in favor of cuts that only last a few years and then see your taxes raise to give the uber rich more money to throw on a pile. This billionaire giveaway tax bill had an approval rating of about 32% and none of those voters are Bernie's anyway. Your spin is silly and without merit. If you think the people who vote for Bernie are in favor of tax cuts for multinationals at our expense you are completely out of touch with reality. Bernie is the most popular politician in the country precisely because he is against tax cuts and giveaways to billionaires paid for by those who work for a living.
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  78. He is the most self loathing person I have ever seen. He hates his skin tone, he hates his sex, he is a giant mess.
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  79.  @kivimik  You are likely right, but admitting you did something several times while indignant someone else is doing the same thing is at best weird. Her outrage may be built on a projection of the immorality of her own experience. After all, she actually knows what she did in the men's room.
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  80. She likes that kind of grooming ... they are dark side sales men.
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  81. +Red Pill For the vast majority it means better cheaper care. It means never having to worry about going bankrupt because someone you love gets sick. It decouples health care from employment freeing business owners and employers the pointless burden of maintaining group insurance programs. It gives you all the choices you could want, if you want to pay more for supplemental care that is your choice. It brings us into line with the rest of the first world which consistently rates as having better heath care service at half the cost of ours.
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  82. From everyone. Instead of paying 5k to your insurance company you pay 1800 as part of your taxes. Putting money in your pocket.
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  83. Red Pill It is not broke but even if it was we already pay what we need to in order to get insurance. We just need to hand half as much in taxes as we give to insurance companies. This is not a complex concept and no one is imagining the money is coming from nowhere just the money we already spend is handled in a way that serves us instead of just making a few clowns more money. We are already paying all we need to support the system and cutting insurance companies out is the path forward.
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  84. Red Pill I told you where the money comes from and you ignore me.  The gold reserves have nothing to do with this subject.   This is about spending the money we already spend as a country in a more efficient manner.  What I am proposing is proven and what you are advocating for has NEVER WORKED IN THE HISTORY OF MAN.   You spin is bankrupt nonsense in defense of useless insurance companies and nothing else.  Your concerns about illegals are null and void because unless they have a valid health card they will not be getting any more care than they get today.  The people who can not pay are covered by those that are.  The fact is transitioning to a government system has made it cheaper everywhere else and I do not see what you base your assertions on.   That we have shills that do not care about us running the show does not mean the systems we are proposing do not work.  Medicare provides care at less cost than the private system, even in our broken and corrupt environment the public system is cheaper.  I do think it is best because it has been proven so and the fact it leave no American behind makes it that much better.  Once we have it in you will sign up too because putting 2 to 4 grand in your pocket a year while still being covered is something even cons can get behind.
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  85. +Red Pill Listen talking point flunky I told you where it comes from and you are patently ignorant on how the entire first world delivers medicine at half the cost we do while getting better results.   I know where the money comes from taxes, it means you put money in your pocket after not paying insurance premiums anymore.  You are the one advocating for slavery,  slavery to insurance companies who you want to empower with the right to choose who lives and dies driven by their profit motive and not health.  I can't comprehend what you are say because you literally do not make sense as suck up to corporations that do not care if you ive or die but still want to hand the key to.   I answered every fucking question you asked and you just blindly ignore that.  You are in favour of empowering insurance companies because that is where you argument leads, stasis and more of the same.  I got news for you peopl3e even on your side of the fence are going to rise up and crush the clowns that back this nonsense.  Mark my words taking money of  working families mouths to make insurance companies richer is a real tough political sell.  Leave no American behind is patriotism and care for my fellow countryman.  That is not communism, it is human and to deride that idea is repulsive.  I am not shocked that is where you stand and why your spin put in the light will ALWAYS be unpopular.
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  86. +Red Pill I would argue "stealing" from them is better than killing others as you are clearly willing to do. Theft over murder as a choice seems reasonable to me. You advocate for dog eat dog anarchy and I live in the first world in comfort. That you want to live in chaos is your thing but you need to get it through your head you do not. Those who have more to contribute and benefit more from our system should pay more. That they make more money means they pay more in. This is reasonable and if they do not want to they are free to leave and not make the money in our society. Someone will step up to offer the service they did and were profiting on. It is a privilege to live in our society and that privilege costs. It is not theft to collect the taxes which in turn create the prosperity and stability we all enjoy and profit from. Buddy is right you need to move where your ideas are already in play and quit advocating to turn us into a 3rd world hell hole
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  87. +Red Pill I know you are triggered and need safe space.  You make invalid assertions all the time and I am just doing what you are.   If you can say taxes are theft then it is more than fair to say you support murder.   Deal with that or be more honest yourself.  People have tried "socialism" and especially in this context it is a system that represents richest most happy countries in the world.  Universal health care does not destroy prosperity and if you look at actual examples it produces a better cheaper product.  Your spin is not based on reality and pretending you have some special insight while ignoring facts is all you have.  You are not clever or informed, you are a shill for bad ideas own that.
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  88. +Red Pill You are the one running away and clearly can not face ideas you do not like.  You need a safe space and it is whiners like you who are consistently the biggest intellectual cowards in any debate they join.  Only in your fact free bubble does your spin even make sense.  The opposite of a statist is an anarchist and you spent some time pretending you are not one of those in an earlier post.   So if my choice is between living in a society of laws and living in chaos I guess I am a "statist" as are most of us.  Your assertions are fact free and it is you who uses invalid talking points not attached to reality.  If you can pretend I am ok with stealing then it is very fair to say you are ok with murder and you need to own that.  You want to let insurance companies choose who lives and dies based on how much money they have so they can make a profit and then call that "freedom".  I want the system of providing health care that does not pick who lives and dies based on their net worth.  I am pointing out you are far more concerned with "theft" from those who have he most than the deaths of the poor. I am both intellectually and morally superior to you.  What I am advocating for is what the best systems in the world universally do.  I am pointing out that what you want never leads to good results and never ever has.  The country was created because the people rejected taxation without representation.   That they solved that  problem does not make taxation evil. I have lived all over the world and read more books than you have touched.  I know what works and what does not and your faith based version of the economy is nothing but sloppy blow job to those who think profit is more important that peoples lives.  You turn your head and ignore those that die around you to support your spin and this marks you as neither principled or moral.   That you care nothing about life and focus on property speaks the value of convictions.  I do know what a constitutional republic is and there is no reason we can not provide universal care, none.
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  89. +Red Pill Fact free, there is nothing in the constitution that prevents this as I have already clearly shown.  You are clearly wrong about centralized government programs in a constitutional republic, we have had them for 80 years.   I am not arguing with you I am just pointing out the fact and you care more about "theft" than "murder" and that is a position that is basically indefensible.   You would forgo the "mob" to hand power to a few so they can enrich themselves and their friends at everyone's cost.  That is another tough sell and I challenge you to pump up your next leader by talking about how they do not have to represent the American people and how our system was never intended to.  The mob rule is better than taxation without representation, at least that is what the founders thought. You claim to speak for the founders and it is clear you have no idea what you are talking about when trying to apply what they did to this situation.  The ideas we are talking about simply did not exist when our forward thinking founders wrote  the original documents.  There is literally nothing in the constitution that precludes us setting up an opt in Medicare for all system. I am saying the government working for insurance companies speaks to corruption and not them focusing on principle.   More and more Americans can no longer afford our over priced system and there is literally no merit to defending it unless you own an insurance company.  Giving them the power of life or death over Americans is an indefensible potion and you have not made a single argument that does so.  Practically NO ONE CAN NOT AFFORD CARE without a middle man, there is a reason we have hundreds of thousands of health care bankruptcies even with insurance. I can't "get" your failed arguments and assertions through my head because they are poorly made and not attached to any working reality you can point at.  You do tacitly defend insurance companies as you support the status quo because there is no realistic form of any health care system anywhere that works as you assert it should and there never will be.  Insurance companies love your spin that promotes stasis and handing them more power, own that. Do not admonish anyone on reading skills as it is clear yours are not strong,  just saying.
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  90. Suzanne Nichols  Thank you very much for your kind words.  Sometimes it is easy to feel like you are digging in sand when talking to a guy like Pill but honest appreciation from others reminds me why I even bother doing it.    We do have plenty of money to pay for these social services, the issue is there is no group in the country paying our leaders to promote them and that is what drives the narrative these days.   This is why they consistently talk about cutting these "broken" programs while bragging they are going to expand an already massively bloated military where we buy billion dollar toys no one even is going to use.   But aside for the military spending truths the argument health care is going to be too expensive is not attached to reality.   We honestly do not have to go out and find funding for the solution because Americans are already today paying twice as much as everyone else.  We just need to spend our current health dollars better.
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  91. Red Pill by pretending I have shared Marxist views you show yourself to be patently ignorant of what the term actually means.   We (USA) are the poster child for the first world nations and they you imagine we are not one speaks to more of your ignorance and nothing else.  You have no idea what the term actually means as you make the painfully miss the point arguments you do about home ownership, property taxes, etc.  The entire first world has these things and pretending that we do makes us not first world is marks you as base ignorant on the subject. There is an answer to the question "Who exactly do you consider "rich"?  and it has nothing to do with what I make as unlike you I do not want to exclude myself from the system.   Paying taxes is not punishment it is the cost of living in a modern society and that you are a deadbeat who wants to sponge off others does not mark you as principled.   What has been proposed is that anyone who makes over 200k pay a few more points on taxes and that would raise the money needed for many programs.  This represents 2% of the population and crying for the most affluent paying another 2% like it is immoral is a real tough sell for most.  You do this trying to appear moral and high minded  while saying it is ok for the poor to die, making you look just douchy.   It most certainly will not make those who have to pay a little more poor and whining that they make a little less will be a tough sell to the vast majority who make an average 30k.  Every single term you use you seem to misunderstand willfully or otherwise.   Graduated income taxes are not a slippery slope to anything else and I have already hammered down this particular weak talking point.  That you can afford to pay more taxes when you make more money is not a complex idea.  The system does not level the playing field so everyone makes the same amount and if you think it does then you are clueless and really need to study up on what you are talking about before saying incorrect things in public. That you see taxes as theft and are deeply concerned about it is undermined by the fact you do not care if the poor die or even worse a child does because they can not afford health care.   You accuse me of emotional porn while you base you entire argument on doing just that by misrepresenting taxes as theft.  The fact is the group I belong to do not think it is ok to go over seas and kill people,  it is the corporate funded dems and the entire GOP including your leaders that support it.   So your question "why it is not okay for our government to force our military to go halfway around the world and kill millions of people, but it is okay for the government to forcefully steal the fruits of other people's labor and redistribute " is moot because we as a group who disagrees with you generally do not support murder of in the name of oil companies and it is your guys who do. What you fail to understand is what you advocate for is slavery to the rich and a lower standard of life for all Americans to make those at the very tippy top far richer.  Your pipe dream of a pure voluntary system simply does not work and never ever has.  You are free to think what ever you want to as this is America.   Whatever that is you still have to pay your taxes or you are completely free go and live somewhere that does not collect them.  It literally makes no difference to me.
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  92. Red Pill  I know I am digging in sand talking to the likes of you.  That is ok as talking out loud in place like this is often the only forum people see our ideas and it has value to me.  You calling me a "Marxist" shows you have no idea what the term actually means admit it or not.  I have heard your empty stance from dozens of greed based halfwits in the past and you said absolutely nothing new nor have you refuted anything I have said.  You support an imaginary pipe dream cooked up by crooks who are buying your leaders and robbing us all blind.  When talking to people with your spin I am never trying to convince you as your have a hard core faith based vision of reality which does not value facts or data or that your vision of society will not and never has worked for anyone.   I don't think we as a people actually have to pay more tax just that the tax we pay is necessary and that it should and would e spent better if our leaders were not for sale.   Your argument we should not have any taxes is an extremist position of little moral value as "voluntary payment" is clearly more important to you than a child dying in the streets because their mom is poor.   This country is not based on volunteerism and no country on earth has had this system in any working capacity in over 100 years.  There is literally nothing in our founding documents that validates your spin and you are just making shit up.  We were minor colonial power in the days of the system you want to go back to.  You are as poorly focused as hard core communists in that you both imagine your ideology will ever survive contact with reality giving good results when they never will.   You both share a faith based fact free version of reality where you do account for the greed of those who will be given unrestricted power in your system.  The fact taxes are wasted instead being spent here is based on who we elect to our system and who they work for.  The way our taxes were once spent building infistructure, developing and supporting new technology, supporting workers rights made us the envy of the planet.  Since then we have moved away from that and those who write your parroted spin have been robbing us into decline ever since.  If our health care was public no one would be paying anymore, we would all pay less.  I am interested in how you address this fact or why you ignore it.   I must assume you purposely ignore it because it hampers your spin.  I challenge you to ask everyone you know if they feel more free paying double for their health care than anyone else in the fist world.  As far as the rich paying more, why should I care if they do not want to?   They are already benefiting from our system the most and I guess they can just leave and not make money here if they feel that strongly.  In any case arguing they are having a right stepped on by paying a couple more points on the millions they throw on the pile is defense of greed that does not look shiny when exposed for what it is.  You make paying taxes into some kind of high crime and it makes you look silly as you are clearly willing to let a person next to the one you defend die because they can not afford care.  How to better distribute our taxes and what level they are collected at is an entirely valid topic of conversation and there is room for argument debate on that subject.   But please understand that is an entirely different spin than taxes is theft.  The term first world has a definition.  We are all industrialized liberal democracies/republics meaning we value free speech, right of assembly of free press.  We are all secular states that do not actively promote any single religion and are universally market based economies.  It is associated with the countries that were considered on the allies side (later joined by Germany and Japan) and represent the countries with high standards of living.   It is summed up as the countries of the world that have many industries and relatively few poor people : the rich nations of the world We qualify because we were the first to coin the term and literally built the alliance and life style the first world represents.   The first world has high standards and are prosperous and comfortable because of that, The countries you want to be like are third world because they have none of that.   You ask who determines my health care standards and I counter with who determines yours?  Mine are based on a clearly defined set of metrics you and anyone else can validate.   I am sorry to say there is zero chance you can say the same.  So good health care and education are measured by a standard,  that you do not accept that standard or for some arbitrary reason (that you have not shared) and that you decide to reject it does show they are not better. You have not shown any insight into economics and what you propose is not used anywhere for a good reason.   Your simplistic cookie cutter talking point spin is not validated by anything but your in the bubble ignorance.  You are not learned on this issue and do not appear to have anything to teach me as your talking points are NEVER backed up with single number and your bizarre claims to some kind of superior knowledge are not proven by what you share as it is never validated nonsense.  It is clear it is you who does not understand economics as you try to pretend our credit card debt and the national debt are the same thing.  The fact is every time we print a dollar bill we create debt.  The very act of printing money creates debt out of nothing.   Hate the world economic system all you want but it is the base nature of it that debt increases and unless you propose something else to replace it you at blowing hot air and are just complaining about a symptom of it.  Our financial system is wholly based on debt and I am convinced what we are doing is not a long term solution for a great many reasons.  That being said what you propose is not the answer either as ignoring the problems your spin would cause does not make them go away.   The tip of the ice burg is the failure you have with an issue as simple as health care for the poor.  Your argument we should let them die or hope someone donates money to help them is not well thought out or actionable if we want anything but chaos.  All this bullshit about force is nonsense.  You are free to go anywhere and no one keeps you here.  Go or pay your dues to society as that is the choice you make by living here.   Vote with your feet as you have no right to make the country into a third world hell hole where poor children die because of who their parents are so you do not have to pay taxes.  Regardless of what you want it is not going to happen anyway so as it stands the only thing your empty spin does is empower the super rich to rob us more. That our government spends money poorly is not an argument we should not have one or they should not have money but that they should all be replaced.  The system is broken largely because of the fact our leaders have not and do not work for us.  We have none the services the rest of the first world enjoys because our leaders are paid by the interests who make t he trillions off our backs.  As long as our leaders are legally for sale we can expect no change.   You are not in favour of liberty, you fight for economic slavery and the empowerment of the very cancer that is rotting our system.   Greed. I would humbly suggest you find a group of like minded voters and primary the corporate whores who own the gop and pulling the sellouts in the establishment dems with them.  Until our leaders work for us they will waste our hard earned money in giveaways to their buddies and wars instead of what it should be spent on.  I want my tax dollars to be injected into our shared infrastructure and R&D and education at home creating good jobs and putting much needed money in the hands of people who work for a living reigniting the growth of the middle class.  Get your leaders to push your goals,  because as it stands they are not working for either of us it appears.
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  93. Red Pill I say it because it true.  You are using it incorrectly and that you have your own definition does not change you have it wrong as I am in NO WAY Marxist.  You are speaking your own language and no one out side your bubble understands what you mean when you say it.  Could you define Marxist for us? I am not trying to fit anyone in my "socialist" box I am talking about what people want.  I am not sure how popular you think your vision is or why, but it is not.  You have to have workable options that address real world concerns to counter the proposals I advocate for and your spin can not and never will do that.  You are forced to use double speak and emotional terms like force, coercion and theft to frame common ideas as villainous while ignoring the deaths caused by the policy you advocate for.  You are not concerned about real world results at all and are 100% ideology based.  Accusing me as being indoctrinated does not ring true from someone that uses coded language and espouses a religious like certainty on economic assertions that have no real world model.   First rule of any cult like group of thought, accuse others of what you do.  If you are indoctrinating your followers then accuse everyone else as being indoctrinated and that is why they can not see the truth.  It allows them to dismiss when the Marxists bring up facts they have no answer for.  You are part of pretty small minority and have not shown you have an understanding of the basic concepts and terms you consistently and incorrectly use.  You mix up abject tax rejection with advocating for state and local taxes.  You used the credit card and home finances analogy when discussing the immorality of the national debt.  You think Marxist means people who  disagree with you, who are not "informed" like you.  You are part of no majority anywhere and belong to a bubble of those so lost in group think you do not even define common words the same way as the rest of the planet does.  The constitution does not layout a workable solution to health care, if it did we would have had it enacted at some point.  Please share your clearly deep insight to show I am wrong. The constitution is not a silver bullet with all the answers and it was not meant to be.  Our founders designed it to be amended and updated as we go along.  It was never meant to hold us back from what was coming next.
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  94. Robert Ponder The issue is not everyone can afford extra private insurance and even if you they do buy it are not protected from going bankrupt because of some issue you can not change.  Most people can not afford more and the argument they should suck it up is nonsense.  The idea we just keep feeding the bottomless pit useless insurance middleman at the cost of lives is sickening.  Health care should not be predicated on how much you make in a modern country. Your spin is inhumane and devalues all life and that is why the rest of the entire first world does not share it. 
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  95. james smith Because clauses like that in their packages are standard for senior administers and execs. It is clear you have no idea what common contracts at that level contain. You clowns are the consistent defenders of execs and their psychotic pay packages and only complain when you decide one of them is a liberal. 200k is chicken feed compared to many.
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  96. Chris Boylan He is the poorest senator in the union. That you want to hate him for three very moderately priced houses when the real problem is the people with hundreds buying our leaders it marks you as part of the problem and pretty stupid to boot.
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  97. More like A View rather than The View
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  98. He is fake crying like he is a European foot ball deva rolling around holding his leg.
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  99. No one should be suprised, Johnson is basically the christian Taliban and hates everything actual america stands for.
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  100. We can rip the party from the establishments hands, this is proof. Primary every single sellout.
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  101. Randomly making excuses I suspect.
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  102. I find her oddly creepy looking, something about the eyes. It is like I can see deceit.
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  103.  @jeremychase7416  As long as the bulk of our our leaders are for sale legislation that puts a leash on these robbers will not be forth coming. Primaries are very very important.
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  104. Also conservatives : "I am such a free thinker everyone should march lock step with my identity or be demonized as a pedophile or servant of Satan".
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  105. Odd they cited the same study a couple days before and shared a higher number ... these clowns have no shame.
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  106. She won and crushed him .. suck it establishment.
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  107. Umm, buddy better recuse himself on any issue associated with this whole fail!
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  108. Justin Archer  That they are correct about impeaching the mess that is trump does not mean anyone ignores they are also shills to the military industrial complex just like anyone who gives Bolton power is. No one in this thread defends Clinton, Bush or Obama, Trump is no better and is somehow the same fail as they are and amazingly manages to be magnitudes more unapologetically corrupt. That is some feat given who he is being compared to.
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  109. I have not seen that. There are issues with the coverage but it should not be equated to what the cons do
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  110.  @youknow9092  Not really, them and the other white power freaks openly support donald and he tips his hat to them now and again letting us know there good people on both sides of the racial hate issue. For ever denouncement there is a wink a nod and another racist trope pressed. The GOP has more fully embraced it racist southern strategy roots in the last 5 years than they have in the last 20. Pretending the democrats are still attached to the KKK in 2021 is brain dead. Donald appealed to white power freaks directly, you do not get to larp about caring about some imaginary connection between Joe and the southern bigots who have voted gop for the last 40 years.
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  111.  @whyamimrpink78  Nonsense, the GOP has consistently spit on them as a standard and most of the base considers civil rights a bad word. They are passing antidemocratic bigoted laws as a we speak to limit access to voting for whole communities as the base cheers it on. You as usual are not correct.
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  112.  @223Drone  That is in stone to me, it is for anyone that understands what those stains represent no matter how much you agree with them on statues of traitors and slavers.
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  113.  tommy john john  Silly, they over their history have worked with other progressive hosts. TYT fosters the progressive media community and has for a long time. Desperate? You have no clue.
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  114. The softest brains in any crowd protest by attacking health care centers as the problem.
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  115. Please run! Dave will be CRUSHED!
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  116. As he gains in the polls despite their best efforts it does not appear to be working. The only thing they are doing is delaying the inevitable which would already be all over without their concerted attempt to mislead.
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  117. It is really hard to listen to these people whine about how challenging their lives are in a the middle of a pandemic where 1/10 the country does not have enough to eat. Not being perfect is not the same as not knowing how you are going to pay rent or feed your children. I can't imagine this spin will do anything but make any normal person loathe her. She is juiced if she thinks millions are like her, most people do not have unlimited amounts of wealth at their finger tips.
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  118. Silly, get your head out of your ass. Cenk knows what Cheney is.
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  119. You were attacked by a doopy halfwit mob, that she has any fans that jump into this bucket of cancer is a sad statement on them. Nothing they say to you matters, keep the hammer down Mike.
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  120. This is what fascists do .. when you cancel your opponents ability to protest your actions, you are being innately anti democratic!.
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  121. Or with for profit health care insurance that murders 30k a year because they can not get care when t hey would in any other 1st world country.
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  122. Anti-thiest Ahiest Part of the single payer system is inherent control of costs and that they are for profit does not mean much if they lose their entire client base because they are not willing to accept the fee schedule handed out by medicare for all.
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  123. I do not think that splitting our votes is the right way.  We need to invade and take it over from the inside.   It can be reformed and an attempt like the Justice democrats is the path.
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  124. These charges are going no where and are nothing more than a weak attempt to attack one of the only leaders who work for us as the same clowns ignore their president overtly breaking the law.
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  125. Brushed Muffin4201 Go live in Somalia or some other 3rd world hell hole and quit insisting we act just like them. I want to become more like a 1st world nation and not a place where education is a privilege instead of a right and people die on the streets because they can not afford health care while the rich live in mansions surrounded by guards with guns. You have not made a single valid point and if you are not getting your "facts" from fox you are getting them from some other disreputable partisan hack place that does not value reality. Fascists are hard core element of the right wing not the left, get your head out of your ass and do some reading somewhere new before saying stupid things over and over in public.
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  126. You know the reason .. follow the money!
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  127. +Red Pill  I say you advocate for killing people because that is what you are doing in arguing against health care for all.  You choosing to prosecute theft at the cost of peoples lives and choose stand by and watch people die on principle so the rich can throw more money on the pile.  This is objectively is what the policy you advocates for leads to and if you can call taxes theft it is more than fair to say what you want supports murder on behalf of insurance companies profit.   You may not want to kill but that is fruit of the seeds you sew.  You want government to step out and just let people who can not afford health care die and you have made it abundantly clear you do not care about them.   That you say they have overreached does not make your assertions correct or validated.  Part of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness could include health care to make it possible.  The problem is you feel it is ok to let the guy next to you die to keep another nickel and dime in your pocket,  it is actually worse than that as you are not even empowering yourself but a cancer that has bought our leaders and is systematically draining working Americans dry selling oxygen while getting insanely rich.  I see the fact free like you all the time, you think you are clever and informed.  The fact is you spit poorly thought out talking points that are not and never will be popular or attached to reality.
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  128. +Red Pill I do not know what you study or where but your assertions are fact free.  In communism everyone is paid the same so graduated income tax literally makes no sense.   The central bank communist?   lol citation please. I am "putting words in your mouth" because what you do not say is much more important than what you do say.  It is telling you just ignore my objections by pretending you do not want what the eventualities of your polices represent.  The right to health care is an established right in the entire first world.  That you fight for the right to step over those dying because they can not afford care speaks to the quality of your character.  You have established what you think and the only places on the planet that do it your way are third world hell holes.  Your simplistic quasi idealistic greed based nonsense would not promote freedom at all,  it would be tyranny of the strong over the weak, the rich over the poor which is exactly what we see in the third world.  See ya ..
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  129. +Red Pill  Stop with the slippery slope nonsense,  your black and white thinking is not attached to reality and implementing an any given element of the "communist manifesto" does not mean we are communist.    Progressive taxation is not communism,  taxation is not theft.  That you hate taxes does not validate your out of touch with reality assertions about it.  You accuse me of putting words in your mouth when every single assertion you make is based in an invalid premise that anyone left of you wants communism, that any idea you do not like is communist and it is not true.  The people who make more should pay more because they can afford and they reap more rewards from our living in our system.   There is nothing unfair in asking them to. That you want to further empower the rich (like they need that) is a fall out of the policy you support.  We have built a collection of the richest humans in history under our "socialist" system so your invalid concern for them is noted but has no value or legs as they are already doing really well.  If they pay a few more points in taxes on profit or have to deal with regulations that protect it has not harmed them or their rise to greater and great power.  Now if you want to talk about tax relief for the poor and those who actually work for a living spending all they have to maintain a reasonable lifestyle I am interested because that puts more money into the economy and raises the standard for everyone.    Your assertion of what a constitutional republic is has been rejected by the courts and standard practice for a long long long time.  You make claims that are just not true. You do not care about any freedom except the right to never pay taxes.  Nothing else matters to you and be it pouring poison in the river of fucking over employees to make a buck you do not see any roll in government protecting the masses from the rich assholes who make these calls.  You would hand unlimited power to a few to crush everyone else and that is no better than giving power to a communist dictatorship that rules with no interest to the citizens it represents.    You have not answered why it is good to ignore dying people to prevent "theft".   Your whole theft bullshit spin is emotional porn too except it has nothing to do with who lives or dies but appeals to greed of those who like it.   You do advocate for stepping over those who can not pay, fuck em they are poor and should have known better.  If they can not afford it then they are screwed and that is fair in your head.  As it stands for the last few decades my government has not worked for me but instead does the bidding of the highest bidder and has for a long time. The failures in our system and our ever growing income inequality attached to the collapse of the middle class built in an actual progressive era are all attached to our leaders selling out to big donors who write trade and tax policy.  This leads us to stupid pointless wars,  deciding who should run what country to make oil multinationals happy and repressing health care and education to give tax cuts to the richest people in history.   I do not think my government works for me but the answer is not hand power to the assholes who are buying them hoping for a new result.    There are places your vote matters and they universally do not support the concept of their leaders being picked by who can raise more money from the billionaires that should have no more of a vote or influence than you do. The first world nations are by no standard hell holes.  In fact ours is slipping faster into decline precisely because of the elements I outline above.  There is no example of what you want working in the modern world and until you have at least one element of data backing your spin talking about turning back the clock to the 1700's will be real tough sell to anyone that looks at what that actually means.
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  130. +Red Pill I do not care because shouting down your nonsense for others has value.  As a fact free fringe dweller  pretending his ideas are popular or accepted outside a tiny minority your spin is not compelling.  I have not bought into any deception,  you have.   You literally ignore reality and the world around you to do it too. You are exactly like a theist who runs away from ideas that do not line up with yours and it speaks to the power of what you buy into.   Your views of what should happen would never survive contact with reality intact and never will see the light of day because of it.  Cheers
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  131. Red Pill I do not have to put words in your mouth or misrepresent you to make your positions look bad. I do not have to redefine words or make up what you stand for to attack your positions which are consistently short sighted nonsense that if enacted would cause great harm. The fact it the government can take away program does not mean we should not have them, what it means is we should be electing those who work for us and not their donors. As this government hurts republican voters maybe they will wake up and figure out they do not care about them and are fully owned. I loathe the waste and corruption in our system so much that I am part of the fight to see it ended as feature of our system. The problem is not that we have a federal government but that we have let it turn into a pay for play system controlled by a tiny number of people interested in enriching themselves at our expense. Even people with your spin should be fighting to get the corruption of corporate campaign donations out because you should not be pro lobbyist either, especially federal lobbyists which are the root of what you hate about our system.
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  132. Red Pill Half way to where? I ask that you come out of the fringes and stop misrepresenting what I am even am arguing. You want to let poor people die in enacting a system that would not help anyone but the mega rich, what am I supposed to compromise with you on that? You want to tear down the economic and tax system rolling us back into the 1700's, what middle ground can anyone sane honestly find with you? How can I meet you half way you are ruining 250 years behind me, that would put me in the 1800's. Being called short sighted by a guy who imagines the world gets more efficient when you create a 100 new bureaucracies at the state and local level instead of just one at the federal is not very compelling. Your total lack of understanding of economies of scale cripples your ideas out of the gate. Moving the functions you expect to be done at a state or local level to "give you more freedom" will exponentially increases the amount of resources required to manage them, they currently do not need to support these functions or the jobs you expect them to do. Instead of one management team at the top you now have a 100 of them duplicating all the centralized effort many times over. Instead of one rule book and office to support you have 100, etc. You exponentially increase the cost of managing services formerly handled at a federal level through a single office. The means that regions that do not have resources simply will not get services. Since you think it is a good idea to down load that to states it means some places will have the full set of resources and services one expects in a modern country and other states simply and many small towns simply will not get them freed from the tyranny of being part of a country. This is one example of many where your idealistic spin crashes against simply break down of costs and benefits. But you are the one making the claims here. You assert your system would be better and that is claim you simply can not back up. That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. I am saying we should not throw the baby out with the bathwater and we still have real options before giving in and handing power to modern feudal lords like you want us to.
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  133. Red Pill Bullshit, you are backwards and what you want has no analog on the planet and I have no faith based expectation it will be any better unlike you. Seriously I feel like I am talking to a child as well and your half way point means rolling us back into a third world country to enforce some idea of freedom that only means a complete evisceration of services Americans count on for no measurable gain or even asserted gain. Local/state control is a desire you have not justified as any better than what we have as I have pointed out destroying economies of scale by having a centralized system will be destroyed making every service enacted under your plan more costly to run. I don't think local and state control of health care is a good idea as it will cost far more to have 100 programs administrations instead of just one at the federal level. There is no advantage to leaving what health care people can get different from region to region and it is a licence to see the poor areas suffer. There is no halfway between me and your imaginary voluntary system which i have no expectations would work and you should not either as there are no examples lauding its success let along an improvement over what we or other nations do. You are the one who is asserting nonsense not attached to reality not me. I have living breathing examples of the working systems and ideas that I support you do not. This makes you the closed minded ideologue not me and that you do not understand the implications of your unfounded desire does not mean they do not have deep problems you blindly ignore. Spouting childish idealism not attached to reality and then calling me closed minded for not buying is is a weak charge that does not stick. You are not the adult in this room. What you want does not work and would kill people and bankrupt the system making it cost far far more. That you hate the federal government has blinded you to the fact it can be of use. That you ignore we would have the exact same problems at the local and state level and you are not solving anything with this spin skips over your head too. You have a faith based claim it will be better and all real indications do not agree. Your solutions would not help and you can not show they would. You need to stop pretending your ideas are based on education or experience as this form of system you want has not existed for over 150 years in the time before the world became mass mechanized and small. It has no place in a modern world and shredding our economic and social safety net to make you happy will do nothing but relegate us to 3rd world status. You want what every 3rd world country has, local health care that means if you community is rich you have a hospital if not you do not have one. It is not evil for local people to manage things but it takes resources to do so. If every community forms its own committees, purchasing, payroll. billing, etc, etc to oversee health care it means duplication of effort on a massive scale further increasing costs. I see literally no advantage to downloading something like health care to the local or state level if your goal is affordable or consistent care across the nation. There is literally no working system on the planet like this for a fucking reason. I don't hold my position because i love big system but I do want our system to be as efficient as possible and spend as much money on care not extra useless bureaucracy your proposal would create. Saying everything should be like the DMV overlooks that the dmv is universally considered a bureaucratic mess to deal with. It ignores the massive amount of resources each state has to put forward toward a system people universally deride as backwards and slow. I subject like health care is monumentally more complicate and expensive. That the state falls down on issuing a card so you can drive does not bode well for their handling of taking over health care for no reason you can justify outside you like the idea better. Your love of the idea of states does not mean there is not a role for the federal government. You have not validated the idea that they do a better job or that you understand the implications what you want or the downsides which you do not even seem to recognize. There are objective measurements of what is better and what is worse and that something makes your feel better is not good enough to upend our system for it. Your individual desires would see 10 of millions fall through the cracks for no gain you have outlined. You are clearly more concerned about your ideology than people. You are like Stalin who caused mass starvation because he decided he did not like the way farms were running and messed up Russia's food production to improve it to make them more in line with dogma. You would see people die to make your dream come true and I hope there is always someone like me around to oppose you and your greed based version of how things should work.
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  134. Red Pill I am not misconstruing it,  I am telling you the results of your polices and you have literally no answer for what I say.   I do not think the whole country is out for themselves just the people with your spin who do not care what their stated desires would do.   Your alternatives are nothing more than an extension of your empty desires based on a dogma that by definition nothing the federal government does can be good.   The charity idea is idiocy and represents nothing more than a giant step backwards to empower the rich at the cost of everyone else.  The system you propose has never existed and does not exist because it is not workable and would not survive contact with reality intact.  Your demonstrated deep ignorance on the subjects of national programs does not make your argument anymore sound.   That you are ok with voluntary state run program means nothing to me as you are literally asking for unilateral surrender on my views and to for me to ignore my own deep and valid concerns to enact it.  This is not the middle ground,  you are asking for the whole cake, then eating it and then talking about how nice it is to compromise.  I take responsibility unlike you.  I take it not just for myself but for those who are not as well off as I am with my many advantages.   I have good health insurance and will continue to into my retirement.  My objections to our system are not about my situation but the 10's of millions of Americas many of them children who have no options.  I agrue for the 100's of thousands of American families that go bankrupt because of our greed based health care system that puts insurance companies and profit before lives.      You use "freedom" as buzz word but nothing you advocate advances freedom for anyone but robber barons.  Freedom for people to pay double for services they currently get is not freedom but robbery.   Your assertions about our federal programs not being legal are fact free as betrayed by reality.    We do have the authority to enact programs at federal level and that you do not think we do means nothing as you are talking out your ass and it is clear you are not correct as we currently have many.   Stalin was not about progressive taxation or safety nets,  they were communists where everyone made the same amount and there "were no poor" to help in his system as all were ostensibly supposed to be equal.  You do not even know what he stood for and pretending we have anything in common is droll while you are exactly the same kind dangerous ideologue who puts dogma over actual peoples lives like that monster did.   Someday you will learn what terms you use mean to those who speak English.  It will empower you to not look foolish when you talk in public.    " I'm done wasting my time with you.  You keep saying that and then coming back to spit the same nonsense.
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  135. +Hank Schroeder  He can make his own choice and go bankrupt because of it because the system is not focused on providing care but making money.  Our system is not about choice at all but about an effort to enrich a handful of assholes at the expense of every consumer who cares if his family lives or dies because they have access to care.   There is nothing wrong with making money unless you have to advocate for those who can not afford your essential service to die because it is priced to high. You guys keep babbling about "more taxation" ignoring the fact you would pay half as much as you do now for the same service that covered everyone with no copay, no deductible, etc, etc, etc.  You are literally arguing to pay more and open the door to bankruptcy if heaven forbid something goes terribly wrong and you lose your coverage or someone you care about is fucked over because of preexisting conditions.   You are arguing for the worst system in the free world while spitting half wit talking points fed to you about choice when in fact you have none except to pay through the nose or die quickly once sick to spare burdening your family and friends.   Point to one system on earth where your silly ideas work on a large scale to provide a critical service, name one.  This is another fact free talking point meant to sound noble but what it really means is people will die, this is a policy that would literally kill 10's of thousands.  This voluntary bullshit  is nothing but a path to enriching the very richest at the cost of our 1st world society.  There is nothing Nobel in stepping over the sick and dying to at a little to your bottom line.   There is no where on earth your stupid service to assholes policies are in place and you have no expectation they would work any better than they do in the third world where the poor regularly die of completely preventable issues.   Enough with the childish demand of volunteerism and back up how this would work I the real world or be silent with your selfish foolish demands.  You clowns literally support overt fascists as you vote for the GOP or anyone on the right these days.   They sell sell you out the highest bidder every single day.  The establishment dems are only barely marginally better but at least they do not empower insurance companies by allowing them to cut the basic service they provide  so they can make an extra buck.  Our health system is an overt failure not because of the poor draining it (as we provide weak coverage and care for them anyway) but because we have zero cost control and as prices go up and up insurance companies just pay the bill and pass the costs onto us as it makes no difference to them and actually increases their profit margins as prices rise.   I would argue it is you and your ilk that are garbage as you fight to see your fellow citizens die because simply because they can not afford care.   You argue on behalf of your side making up what I stand for as I point out the actual results of your idiot spin.  Analysis of the situation is not your strength and if you actually did what you admonish you would find no arguments that actually back up your spin would be an improvement.  You have bought some silly spin making you sound like a moral crusader for "freedom" when you in fact preach slavery to the insurance companies and the status quo.  Even what you want is a tip of your hat to stasis as your ideas are so unworkable they will never see the light of day and the fact you by default side with the status quo empowers it. "You’re the Nazis.  You are the Stalin's and the Hitler's."   Hyperbole much? In your mind is the entire first world being run by Stalin and Hitler? Canadians, Europeans, Asians and the entire first world live under "Stalin/Hitler rule in your fevered mind?  Even you can not believe this stupid shit you spit.  The answer is no halfwit and pretending otherwise is base stupid and rejected as an idiots assertion on the face.   Call me closed minded, but I have study proposals like yours and reject them because there is no expectation they will make things any better than they are in the third world and the most backward places on the planet where what you want is the only system available.  You clowns are not connected to reality and spit talking points dreamed up in think tanks to rob you and me both.   You are the ideologues here and part of a tiny minority who as bought in the bullshit you sell.  Your analysis of the positions are as deep as rain puddle and are based on your dogma and not good results for consumers or anything that currently works let alone works well.  You literally have no reasons outside an empty appeal to faith that what you want would work let alone provide good outcomes.  I can point to the systems that are the best in the world and provide the highest quality care for the most people and you simply have no data backing your fact free assertions. It is clear you have no idea what is even being propose as you say something stupid like this: "Why in the hell would any sane person not only contribute part of their pay to their employer's private insurance company, but then also be forced to fund this "Medicare for all" through their taxes also?"  The answer is you would not longer have to get insurance from your employer as you would have options, if we paid for our health care through our taxes like the rest of the first world we would pay half of what we do not to insurance companies and everyone would be covered.   The middle man is the insurance companies that that they do nto care to control costs because they make more as they go up along with their profit motive is the root fault or our system.   I do not give a flying fuck about the insurance companies that have been selling us increasingly expensive oxygen for the last 40 years.  At best they should sell supplemental coverage to those who want it and should b e out of the primary care game as they offer zero value and the ones driving up costs for the consumer as they literally do not care how much it costs as they pass everything onto us.   So the answer to your misinformed question is you would no longer pay insurance companies for health care.  You may get dental or other coverage through work but the burden of providing health care would be lifted from business allowing them to do what they are in business to do.   I will not shed one tear for an industry that bankrupts 100 thousand Americans a year while rolling in money.  There is no such law forcing insurance to keep their rates higher as you have zero options to opt in anyway.  You are literally making shit up and I guess when you have no arguments that is what you are forced to do. We  have plenty of "competition" but no cost control and no one in it gives a fuck if you live or die as the insurance companies through a process called recidivism will work to find a way not to pay for needed care even if you have insurance.    Competition is not what makes the other systems that actually work successful and you using poorly thought out talking points as you babble about it being anything but a sloppy blow job to the status quo as you drool all over yourself.  When you ask a question as stupid as "WHY do you even need a private insurance company or government insurance IN THE FIRST PLACE" it underlines your profound lack of comprehension on how the system even works or the costs associated with it very very few people in the entire country can shoulder.  It is clear you think our system is the same as it was in the turn of the century before hospitals were expected to have million dollar mri machines or child mortality was 4s time higher than it is today.   The era you guys point to was not a golden age of medicine and people regularly died because we did not have the resources or systems or knowledge built through research (also driven by money) that cured them.   We can't do it because you can't afford your own care for anything more complicated than simple surgery.  At least no more than once.   We reject it because it is a pipe dream that ignores the costs and would mean hospitals simply could not function as you bringing in a couple chickens to pay for your health care will no longer cover it like in the good old days at the turn of the century when you dealt doc brown.  That you do not think you have an ideology does not mean you do not.   You would choose to see people die in the name of your greed and no one should let you clowns forget what you stand for even as you pretend to be moral.  I am happy to listen to ideas but listen does not mean I will capitulate to them especially when they serve no one.   You babble about those who disagree with you not being open minded as you represent the most closed minded vision there is and do not even care what your proposed policy means or who it hurts as long as it meets your faith based vision of the world.  Being lectured by the likes of you as you show you do not even know what is being debated while pretending to be morally superior as you would step over bodies is empty bullshit waved away by the sane.
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  136. +Hank Schroeder  I do not and do not intend to defend that system,  it is not something I would fight for and see the many inherent systemic problems in it.  That being said you are not proposing anything reasonable that would replace it.  Our system has many inherent flaws but the largest of those flaws are mitigatable with good legislation and a leadership that works for us and not just to enrich those who own them.   We do not have to toss out everything to fix it.  That our system is founded on debt does not mean we are bankrupt to say so is either ignorant or dishonest.  The only way for something to be "unconstitutional" is for the constitution to specifically forbid it, please cite the article that makes this deeply flawed system "unconstitutional" in your mind.  If you are going to attack it attack its real failures (there are plenty) not something a clown who does not care about the facts told you.  As it stands you are acting as controlled dissent in service to assholes who are entirely greed driven as they at the ones writing these silly talking points that invalidate your otherwise valid concerns, minimizing them.      The gold or silver standards time has come and gone, there is not enough gold on the planet to cover the money we currently have printed so the idea of the gold standard fixing everything is nonsense.  That our (and the planets) monetary system is flawed does not mean you can demand we replace it with something that will not work.   In the time of the founding fathers there was actual slavery so the idea that the gold standard somehow prevents economic slavery is not well thought out as both economic and actual slavery were rife in that time.  Rich land owners controlled a large percentage of the wealth of the country coupled with no regulations to protect workers or consumers.   The people of that era much more economically indentured and far poorer,  they were arguably more slaves to their landowners and employers than we are today even with a gold standard in place.  Just like the founders intended us to amend our constitution perhaps they did not want us running with the monetary system conceived of before industrialization for forever.   Honestly, I am not really sure what the system that should be in place is and have seen several proposals.   But if you are going to advocate for changing it as your main thing then pick something better thought out than demanding the gold standard which only makes you look clueless.
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  137. We need to fight them!!
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  138. Halkingy78 So? Few in the world have that kind of job. Pretending it is out of control or something to be mad about is silly.
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  139. Dave Smith Weak on issues? He was rock solid on issues and Hillary lost the election because she was weak and the GOP is not only weak but destructive. He supported his own party over the overt cancer of trump and that you pretend that is selling out while ignoring the entire GOP got on its knees for trump after saying they hated him marks your spin as empty nonsense. He forced the DNC to its most progressive platform in history and has caused a seismic shift away form the cancer of corporate money that they were beholden to. Ignoreing this fact because you talked to a delegate does not change any of these facts.
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  140. Move to somolia .. that is the kind of freedom you crave.  We are not becoming a 3rd world hell hole despite what you want.
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  141. +Red Pill  I am comparing what you claim to want to Somalia and it is apt.   We are clearly not Somalia but if you had your way we would be nearly identical.   Your polices are the ones that are shared by the third world hell holes you point at.  My policies are the ones applied to the richest most freedom loving first world countries on the planet.  Move to Somalia and see how well your non statist system works for them and you may then be reticent on dumping it on us after.  Have a great day too.
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  142. So without any money at the state level or any system that connects all of them each would be as effectively ruled as Somalia is. Nothing exists in a vacuum and is not because the ideas and tech necessary do not exist in Somalia that is backwards it is that no one coordinates them and local resources are limited in what they can take care of. Your pipe dream is and its effectiveness in the modern world is a faith based assertion that is not borne out by reality. Translating functions done by one group to be duplicated in many is not only inefficient but will ensure many functions fall through the cracks making us ever more like the model of Somalia. I get it you hate a federal government but the fact is the states have the exact same issues only compounded because they do not have the always have the resources necessary to do what is necessary. Please understand you have not demonstrated I lack any knowledge. I completely know what you buy into, I simply reject it as dishonest and not attached to reality.
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  143. You are not honestly trying to compare the economic conditions of 250 years ago to now are you?  Don't call me uninformed as you apply this spin.  In those days we did not operate as a country in the sense we do today,  no country did.  There is no country in the history of humanity that did what we did in the mid 1900's with our statist ways and we changed the standard of societies forever in that period.  Pretending that fact does not exist and we can go back to how we ran things in the late 1700's is ridiculously out of touch.   We already have things that govern themselves and we call them countries.  You still want to hand power to the state only this makes you different from what I want by  single level of government meaning your "country" is much smaller and therefor has less resources than mine with no other advantage.  The power house blue states cover the red ones anyway and so if we were to go it on your own the red states would look like good old Somalia much faster.   If you think 50 little countries would work better than one big one then I do not know how to help you.  That you do not understand ideas like economies of scale  and the many critical things federal government does reduces the weight of your argument.  The federal government does send resources from state to state,  it is telling the 10 poorest states that take more than they gave are all red.   So much for the success of free market principles your ideas you are based on.
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  144. Dan Dimit You would rather others die .. that is the truth of it. Your morality is in real question as you step over bodies to suit a principle that enriches insurance companies at the cost of lives.
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  145. Mr B Do ask Canada, A study just released about Canadian health care has 85.2 percent aged 15 years and older reported being ‘very satisfied’ or ‘somewhat satisfied’ with the way overall health care services were provided, unchanged from 2005. What are you basing your claims on?
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  146. Statistic189 This spin that it will increase the debt is not attached to reality. We already pay more than double what other first world countries pay for the same service. We literally can not afford not to go single payer if we want to be able to afford the insurance we all need.
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  147. MordredTheMightyMetalhead If you think they are fighting for you or anything to do with health care that will help you then you are not paying attention to what Trump is actually doing. His is consistent liar and is about health care too, a quick look at his policy confirms this.
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  148. Mr B I am not making up numbers. But if anecdotes are what you value I have family in Canada and know they like their system far more than anyone around me here likes ours. For critical issues they wait no more than a normal person with insurance here and they pay far less than we do in every situation. The number of Canadians paying to get critical care in the States because of waiting times is infinitesimal, it is you who is misrepresenting numbers.
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  149. He speaks to a group of halfwits when calls Bernie a communist. He looks insane to almost everyone except a special brand of stupid who parrots the same garbage.
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  150. It is nice to see her act contrarian on something that makes sense in attacking Trump. Does not change her nature as Trash.
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  151. He should have to earn our votes
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  152. They are rigging it against Bernie this time too. This is what they did last time and it is what we should expect this one. I am not sure why she seems so surprised or that this is new to her. Bernie has been saying the same thing only for longer and has been fighting for actual change.
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  153. Look at some of the establishment GOP members talking about Trump and then revise your assertion.
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  154. First they corrupted the GOP and now they have moved on to do the same for the dems. They have made pretty good progress and it is getting ever harder to tell them apart on key issues.
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  155. These people are all a special kind of shallow end of the gene pool stupid.
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  156. She is a idiot branded monster, at some point the communism scare has to hit the bounds of reason. One would think, Candice could not define communism if you gave her a dictionary.
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  157. It is only because this kind of oppo attack is what Biden would do against Sanders if he could make it fly. Bernie does not have to stoop to this to beat Joe who has had these problems for decades and should not blame anyone,.
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  158. She has always had a creepy undertone to her, many of her choices gave solid voice to that intuition. She is full mask off now.
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  159. Their attempt to frame this overt cheating as non existent is not a narrative that has any legs and the these clowns are losing any shred of credibly they ever had. Let them make these stupid sounds because I argue the more they do it the more people see them for what they are. We as voters on the left are not pro Russian trump trolls but we are not going to ignore the corruption in our own camp that needs to be crushed electorally. Garbage like this no longer has any relevance and Americans who already were not into you clowns, we are wholesale rejecting your spin and establishment democrats are going to continue to pay for this at the ballot box. They are basically doing republicans work for them at this point and that may be their plan.
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  160.  @whyispinkysoinsane7898  Lol!
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  161.  @jasonkennedy3666  When facts ruin your day you are probably fact free.
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  162.  @jasonkennedy3666  I have found the root of your confusion, you have a reading comprehension problem. There are lessons to improve that on line. Good luck with all that. See ya.
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  163.  @attilamarics4808  Your thinking skills are in question, so this is not surprising. Perhaps just be silent then.
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  164. ​ @attilamarics4808  Your judgment has been shown to be questionable. Your opinion of what the facts are is of limited value. Repeated empty comments drive that assessment home.
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  165. If they had a democrat in place who could have run against the GOP's corruption instead of being often tacitly complicit with it they would have crushed this clown.
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  166. If you think that the protester's are on the side of Hamas then you are clueless. She has an answer for oct 7, it is not a new genocide. You ignore Israeli complicacy in oct 7 or that Netanyahu himself propped up Hamas because he never wanted two state solution and was looking for reason to attack. Is why he let Oct 7 happen. She rejecting the empty narrative you have bit, hook, line and sinker. A useful idiot for genocidal monsters.
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  167.  @ricardobarahona3939  Fair, just happy to see the GOP fracturing even if it is along these lines. I do not have to cheer for either side to appreciate them doing damage to one another.
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  168. He is litterally a Republican. He endorced George Bush.
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  169. They can keep lying to themselves .. it will change nothing. Nancy .. you are not progressive and half your base voted for a progressive vision last time. Quit being a fucking republican.
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  170. Because she is the personification of a political legacy whose chief achievement is war crimes.
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  171. You may be "left" but still apparently buy and share old idiot takes made by right wingers
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  172. Elect leaders not owned by the highest bidder then. How the candidate is funded matters!
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  173.  @bonchidude  You are part of the con as you attack one of the only leaders actually fighting for us in an effort to promote establishment stasis, pathetic!
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  174.  @bonchidude  You do not know what shill means. The idea if Bernie lost the primary race he would promote the winner over overt killer cancer is not remotely controversial to the sane. I would have him back corrupt Joe over the even more corrupt orange man baby any day. This is not a complex idea for those with a working brain. Pretending I am a shill because I do not buy your silly counter productive spin marks you as a tool of establishment failures and do nothing stasis. Bernie is the father of the change that is coming. Your empty distracting attacks on erstwhile allies are as stupid as when Hillary did it. Voter shaming is pointless and does not convince anyone. When you adopt the tactics of overt and unrepentant failures you dooming yourself to the same fate.
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  175.  @bonchidude  I am not voting for the lessor of two evils. I am voting for one of two choices. I am picking the one I wish to oppose, my choice is entirely tactical not emotional. If I was not in a contested state I would be voteing 3rd party. I am, so I will be voting for one of the two candidates who can actually win instead of spending it on a protest vote no one will care about. I am tactically choosing my opponent instead of supporting one, the bottom line is neither represents me and I count on being in opposition either way. This is a cycle where empowering another Trump election is not something I can be part of knowing what a total fail in every way that matters to me he is. Biden is shit too but he is the best target to oppose as I have like minded allies in his base and none in the GOP. Bernie is the ONLY reason the progressive agenda even exists. Pretending he killed it is not only counterfactual it is bizarrely opposite world. He literally created the template that will see it rise. The DNC loathes Bernie and always will. The idea he is a water carrier simple nonsense. Because he was never as militant as or aggressive as you would like does not mean he was in the tank for the other side. He is the only reason there is any chance of change going forward. He literally wrote the template on how to crush the establishment which had an completely uncontested strangle hold on power before him. We owe the entire future of the progressive-3rd party movement to Bernie. Even if he did not win he inspired the movement and proved out a str I ng effective non-corrupting funding mechanism that is already changing the landscape. Your spin is counter factual misdirection crafted to empower establishment stasis. You can hear the Hillary branded hate in your dishonest silly trope that purposely walks us back from the progress we have already made.
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  176. This lyrically challenged beard boy thinks Marjory is spitting facts, can't fix stupid
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  177. Must be sad to be as weak as Crowder
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  178.  @ThomasRSkillman  no he does not think they should.all be in jail. citation please! The fact Tulsi wants to continue the war.on terror should be enough to reject her as the 'anti war' candidate.
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  179. Gee ... I wonder why?
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  180. No one should value "friends" like this. Why would you invite this douche bag? He is an asshole.
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  181. We knew before this all before the report came out.
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  182. She has always covert republican hiding under progressive mask.
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  183. They are so weak .... Nothing she said was wrong and she answered that fine.
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  184. Gondock kialez Your taxes will go up .. no one gave you this because of the tax cut and now you will not be able to afford health care. This tax bill was kick to your teeth and you are bizarrely thanking them for it.
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  185. Gondock Kalaz Your taxes will go up because all of the standard dedications you count on expire to pay for the ones billionaires use. The tax cut money you get now will be clawed back, if you make under 70k this will cost you more once the deductions all working people use are removed. That you already can not afford health care puts this fact in stone and this tax bill literally robs you and redistributes wealth from you to the richest people in the country.
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  186. xrelik we still have options that we barely have explored which now look viable. The establishment are weak disorganized and unliked, we can now beat them even with all the rules stacked against us. We all have a ways to go before beaking out pitchforks and building guiloteens.
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  187.  @youknow9092  Hilarious, they talk out of both sides of their mouths. That they disavow david duke does not change david publicly endorsed Trump to his proudly racist buddies. When a crowd of nazi's chant the jews will not replace us and one of them runs down a counter protester with his car Trump empowers them. A statement sharing the very definitive, "there are good people on both sides" is not remotely a disavowal. Pretending those 'nuts' do not stand beside you does not make them go away.
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  188.  @youknow9092  It is not irrelevant to me or other people who loathe bigots. Going the same way as David on anything is always deeply questionable. Trumps statement after Charlottesville lumped the Nazi's in with counter protesters and the statue worshipers. At best it was brain dead spin that even if he did not intend it tacitly if not overtly supported the Nazi's. I would argue that all the Nazi's by definition are pretty shit people, the crowd of NPC's defending statues of traitors were not much better as their stupid stand is at best a tacit defense of a legacy of racism too. His open ended spin about potentially promoting Nazi's was why stains like Duke came out of the wood work like vermin to publicly support him.
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  189.  @youknow9092  You can pretend it is irreverent but who the white power freaks want in power is very relevant to me. I see Trump throwing consistent bones to these losers. That you do not does not change the fact he is. Not everyone who was protesting the statues were racist but even if they were not it amounts to a distinction without a difference as they supported statues that were erected for racist reasons and stand beside actual self declared nazi's as they do. Trumps open "denouncement" is buried by consistent winks and nods to the monsters. He labeled them a terrorist group and then cut funding that looks into right wing racially motivated terrorists to transfer our focus on to the boogie man Antifa he pretends has any power or influence. When you make your primary focus fighting unfunded, unled anti fascists you tend to look fascist. Just saying.
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  190.  @youknow9092  I did not delete my comment. Mr Trump courted bigots from day one of his campaign announcement. He pushed the narrative through his entire administration. I do not care about him disavowing monsters he empowers with his rhetoric and choosen policy. It is not clear at all his views vear from the bigots and that is why they support him with full throated voice. They do not do that for anyone that clearly hates them. To call a policy racist it has to disproportionally effect a single race. The stated motivation of the effort is irrelevant, it is the action of the effort which is innately racist because it targets by race. I do not have to show what is in anyone's heart to declare an action against one race as racist. Global bans based on religion, labeling peaceful protest against literal tyranny rioting and anti american. Immigration bans and demonizing of immigrants as a nazi throw back tactic. Your Mr Trump and his family have long been racist, a brief look into their history hammers that point home. There many many differences between what Antifa is and what the brown shirts were. First off they are not politically affiliated nor are they recognized or supported by any political party. In fact they are a unfunded, unorganized group of people who dislike fascists' and want to stand up to their brutality with like brutality. To call them fascist is to ignore what the word means. They are violent and potentially problematic if you are brownshirted fascist waving his freak flag but no one else is threatened. I go by the dictionary definition of fascism and socialism. Most people on the right I speak to have no idea what they mean and emptily equate both with bad even while they at least tacitly support one. The white power freaks do stand with you, they vote for the same Mr Trump you do for reasons you apparently choose not to see. These facts are not up for debate, ignoring them does not make them go away. I understand your concern and motivation, I would distance myself from those monsters if I were you too.
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  191.  @youknow9092  You just keep saying really really stupid things. Ignoring you actually stand beside the party of racism in 2021 by pointing to LBJ is temporally challenged idiocy. When you have to go back to lincoln to validate your defense of the GOP you have already LOST the debate.
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  192.  @georgearden7075  They are as special as you are, that someone is having fun should have nothing to do with you clown. Your need to crush people you dislike is showing.
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  193. He is as dumb as they come, perfect avatar for the right.
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  194. She lost, these halfwits and psycos have gotten by on participation trophies and naked entitlement.
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  195. Toe to toe, none of these establishment shills can stand up against a candidate like her. They will not be debating any more progressive candidates just like the shills who managed to hold on by making sure as few people as possible hear about them.
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  196.  @katrand5357  Agreed.
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  197. A little click baity but pretty funny ...
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  198. Buddy is so ignorant that even fox viewers are seeing through the nonsense.
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  199. Take over the dems and primary the corporate sellouts into retirement.
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  200. That is some serious irony! None of what she has said was gaff, while we have a gaff only president in the white house.
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  201. Go Nomiki!
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  202. Bloombeg is a republican. He is behoden to and a product of corpratist system and is right wing not left at at all.
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  203. Buddies distinction does not constitute a difference to those who oppose bigotry.
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  204. What a mess she is, this stain needs to be treated like the opponent she is.
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  205. They rob him it is time to march on the DNC in the millions.
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  206. Let him try. His stuff is mega weak and actually will drive support to Bernie. This is like the free media Trump got.
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  207. Nothing learned, selling out to the GOP and being weak is the feature not the bug. The consultants and media companies get paid either way. The corporate dems are paid to spit on their base.
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  208. Why?
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  209.  @Nick-o-time  At this point the more relevant question is do the Palestinians have a right to exist? News flash, they are being exterminated as we speak. So you ask a question usually used to defend Israeli actions and then answer it with "no state has a right to exist". Strange bird you are.
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  210. It is shocking these pundits all expect to have access to her, please give me the example of the GOP leadership that is open to doing the same thing. Where is all the outrage louis Gomert will not debate Cenk from YT? This is a set of nonsense talking points for the simple that make up the fox audiance. It is ok these clowns were never going to vote for OC anyway.
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  211. Joe crying about not getting support us funny. Is kind like a axe murder complaining someone is using his axe to chop wood.
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  212. No big deal, charge them for it and order another.
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  213. I see Jimmy attacking some of the only leaders in congress who empower us called sell outs on a matter of style over substance.
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  214. He has
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