Comments by "sharper68" (@sharper68) on "The Hill" channel.

  1. She really is rejected forever. She is little better than Hillary with a broken progressive mask.
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  2. The only that comes off looking bad here is Warren.
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  3. She has lost me forever, I look forward to donating to her primary challenger.
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  4. That would be a hard fail for them, their roles need to be deeply investigated.
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  5. Short answer, because they are paid to ignore the need of their base over donors.
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  6. Outside the 20 minutes at the start were every question was framed from a right wing perspective in a democratic debate. They did do better than CNN but that is a very low bar.
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  7. The Lincoln project is only for the working class in the same way the establishment democrats are, window dressing and a desire to use them while continuing business as usual. No matter how bad things are now once we replace Trump never ever forget who these people are and that they are the reason we got trump in the first place.
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  8. Record increases in drone strikes over Obama's old record numbers. Trump contributed to the genocide in Yeman while making war with Iran far more likely. Not a shiny track record if you ask me.
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  9.  @SteveM-gj2vy  Stop pretending to care about human life you ghoul.
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  10. At least they were always snakes .. Warren is worse because she has finally taken off a mask we all should have seen through in 2016. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
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  11. They NEVER call out corruption in any admin, including Trumps. He filled the swamp with swamp monsters and all they did was complain about mean tweets. Anyone that is surprised Biden is owned by the highest bidder has NOT BEEN PAYING ATTENTION to anything.
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  12. Betting because Bernie is crushing in therm and they do not want to give him anymore momentum
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  13. Jamal undermines your channel and the good work that you guys have been doing.
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  14.  @helene420  They only care about fake pedo rings that involve democratic leaders.
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  15. His final act of office was an unforgivable act of overt weakness, he handed a supreme court pick to the GOP.
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  16. This presidential candidacy is not real, he can not run in New York, Texas and other key states as he has already passed the dead line. He has registered nowhere to run or with FEC, talking about this is a waste of time.
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  17.  @tevinpayne3076  He was a change candidate who did not change anything. The republicans were intransigent and racist but that does make Obama's policy good. It only makes it look better than theirs. That is like being the tallest kid in kindergarten. Obama pushed no actions against criminals on wall street. He continued the wars and increased drone strikes. He put Gold-men Sachs cronies in his cabinet. Passed the republican health care plan with no republican support, Made permanent GB's tax cuts, etc, etc. He gave up before fighting over and over and let the GOP set the narrative his entire presidency. He promised us change and gave us pocket change. Once people saw he was a business as usual centrist the democrats lost over a 1000 state and federal seats over the next 8 years. Hillary lost to Trump running on Obama's presidential record while flatly ignoring how he actually won in 08. Obama's legacy is not a shiny one and now correctly undermines trust in any leader funded by corporate and billionaire interests.
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  18. He said "no one wants to take a chance, we took a chance before" When, when did we ever take a chance? Hillary was exactly what he says Biden is, safe? We do not need special glasses to figure out how that turned out last time.
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  19. Steps along the correct path, the more people covered the easier it is to implement for all.
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  20.  @velvetbees  The viewers were wealthy. The teams were allowed to watch but to get a ticket you had to pay over 2000 dollars. They limited the crowd to a very specific constituency by doing so. It may not be Bloomberg but someone is putting their finger on the scales and it is not in question.
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  21. The naysayers attacking him as do nothing are actually doing service to statis by undermining one of the only people actually fighting to make M4A happen.
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  22.  @anthonycastillo7884  The anti Seltzer trolls lying again
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  23. lol, the clowns yelling stop the count! Ok, Biden wins.
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  24. Not necessarily, staffers often get jobs after campaigns. That they do not expect to means they do not expect to win.
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  25. Short answer kind of, but it does not let the establishment off the hook in anyway. Harris is a neo liberal mess like Biden. We need to vote for them to get rid of trump but only as a measure of who we wish to oppose. The fight continues even as we grow in power and representation with progressive wins that will continue to mount.
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  26. That anyone is surprised about this after Obama's cabinet means they were not paying attention. I am soothed by the fact Trumps cabinet was somehow worse.
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  27. Very bad news for Trump, Georgia was hard hard red.
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  28.  @vondaandrews1005  The corporate dems are part of the same corrupt machine Trump is. Pretending either stands for you is a picture of ignorance.
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  29. Because he was funded by the status quo, his skin tone is irrelevant compared to who his donors were and who he is beholden to. No one should be surprised Obama bladed us all. He was owned by the same corruption that has captured almost the entire democratic party and all of the GOP. A look at his cabinet choices validated the concern right off the bat.
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  30. I expect to have to fight the DNC day one! Any democratic voter that wants real change has to.
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  31. That is why they invest in both parties, so they can not lose.
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  32. She has lost me forever, I look forward to donating to her primary opponent.
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  33. The GOP is so closed minded they have crushed their brains to the size of pea.
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  34.  @1Reevee  He pretended to have populist ideas in 2016 and ran against the GOP brand in many ways. Now he is all establishment all the time and it never was popular. Ask hillary.
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  35. Can't say it yet? She has nothing! There is no such thing as secret evidence in a case like this!
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  36. And generally the senior people who were part of that campaign continue to work if the campaign wins. The point is these people do not expect to win. You will not see the same of the Biden team because they expect to be employed even after the election.
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  37. These clowns better not be saying look forward not back when it comes time to lay charges.
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  38.  @fortusvictus8297 Tell that to the corporations and the rich our government bailed out as they told the rest of us to suck rocks. Socialism for the rich, rugged individualism and "liberty" for everyone else. Good luck selling that!
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  39.  @ponyboy316  That is not a problem they have, our problem is here is our government only bailed out the rich and is bleeding everyone else dry.
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  40. Makes us want to fight harder ...
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  41. Or trump talking about his superior brain while hiding his marks from every school he ever attended.
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  42. Old news, the results have now been certified. Welcome to the earth. The republican secretary of state was actually threated for saying there was no appreciable fraud a position that has been validated by all court cases to date. You have armed militia's who have recently tried to kidnap a sitting governor, we know who the violent side is.
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  43.  @ACB888  She has sold out to do nothing centrism and the status quo. She has attacked her closest ideological ally in a cynical ploy to gain power with a crew which will betray her own voters wishes. I once felt much as you do about her. She has taken her mask off and the centrism we saw a glimpse of in the 2016 campaign in her non endorsement of Bernie nakedly telegraphed her actions this primary. Pretending we are toxic as you support a candidate that blatantly lies and misrepresents her "friend and ally" is hilarious projection. Both Bernie and his supporters are consistently slurred by the likes you. That you act hurt when we swing back is bizarre.
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  44. Far left fascism? He is speaking to an every shrinking minority.
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  45. We just elected Biden to do that. You can now rest easy Caps Lock Johnson.
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  46. Of course not, your cult severs you from reality.
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  47. He loses and he is hard core done.
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  48.  @supa1954  It is literally not her job to do an ascertainment on the validity of the election, it was her job to over see the transition from the admin end. Her nakedly partisan assessment was based on empty nothing burger nonsense.
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  49. If he does not end up in jail or slink into shame when he is exposed as broke and his tax/insurance cheating comes back to haunt him. He is a much dumber than Rush, not sure he has the parts to stay on top without the presidency to hide behind.
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  50.  @Danik0301987  In no way better. He greatly increased the chance of real hot wars while expanding and increasing our military foot print and actions world wide. No decreases, no draw backs only expansion and shuffling of our troops. More boots are on the ground world wide than than in the last decade and our Military budget has been exploded. Our drone strikes and bombings including of foreign leadership and Russian assets on the ground break all records and have no analogue when not in a time of "war". He literally was fulling planes with our equipment that were bombing hospitals and schools while the media papered it over. He is complicit in that this foreign genocide in a way no modern president has been.
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  51. Why? They have been intransigent from the start! When is he going to punish mitch for ramming through a supreme court pick after denying him the same thing? It makes me livid that he has any intention of working with this dishonest turtle stain.
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  52. IT has to do with race, you ignoring why they statues are hated is the problem. you are defending the statues of traitors and slavers, those who wanted to crush an entire subsection of our population for overtly racist reasons. Own that and know where you stand, on the wrong side of history.
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  53. Because they do not expect to win, which is the point of the story.
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  54. These people are not leftists .. they are corporate dnc cultists.
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  55. We need campain finace reform or nothing will change
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  56.  @fehlrock  Trump is a dumpster fire in charge of a party that the democrats are attempting to copy and chase off a donor cliff. Trump made the swamp deeper and swampier. Biden is the failure he is because he chases the GOP donors and voters You do not solve corruption by putting the model of corruption in charge.
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  57. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
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  58. Total nonsense, they never ever were on the left. Fascism is was and always will be a right wing phenomena.
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  59. Trump is.crooked. he hired his useless children to work in his administration where they made hundreds of millions of dollars some from forign sources. Trump is not better
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  60. They hope, but that is not likely as if they push him through Trump wins.
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  61. @ale ale ssandro Bullshit, I supported her for a long time. When it was not popular or easy because she was once a fighter for something other than her own power. She is now embarrassing and flushing years of good work down the drain. I once respected her because she was so effective, never because of her gender. She has lost me forever because she has sold out to power, I should have learned my lesson in 2016. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
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  62.  andre jamison  He just moved them around and brought practically none home. Even his fake draw down recently is a weak coverup for the fact he is not brining anyone home. He is surrounded by the worst war mongers in our history and has exploded the military to the highest level since war time. There is nothing anti war about this loser. This anti allies stance he has taken with our long term friends does nothing to make the world safer and in fact gives us more latitude to enact unilateral war (which we are not above) not less. Breaking up the alliance that has overseen long periods of peace is not anti war by any stretch of the imagination even as Trump expanded our already bloated military invalidating any gains he made. If Trump is anti war then Biden gets the same treatment is all he is guilty of is rubber stamp neo con policy that Trump is innately complicit with. Blaming Biden for the GOP's overt failures while giving them a pass is idiotic.
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  63.  14zer0zer0  Because the polls are neck and neck. Biden should not be anywhere close to Trump in Georgia.
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  64.  @nicktramel6412  Pretty much dead on. The polls had Hillary a few points ahead. That turned out to be pretty accurate. She won the popular vote within the margin of error of the polls. She lost the election because she ignored key states in the rust belt that she never bothered to campaign in and just expected to win. Like I said, bad news for Trump no matter how you slice it. Being close in freeken Georgia can not be something his campaign is cheering about.
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  65. @Edit D Then it is a surprise they are so consistently accurate.
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  66. And in other news, water is stilll very wet.
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  67. Perhaps stop letting them buy our leaders first.
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  68. I do not think it failed it has been demonized and attacked as helping the "other" for a long time. The fact is white woman have been major benefactors in affirmative action. It is not as important as it once was before, the people whop support affirmative action are not the people who benefit from it anyway. Lets call that change a success and move one from it, we have lots to do.
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  69. Equally corrupt, the difference is they are being challenged on it while the GOP is not.
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  70. She is correctly personified as Kellyanne Conwayish.
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  71. Trump is far far worse!
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  72. Bunch of monsters, platitude machines.
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  73. Look forward to sending a few bucks to the best person to take her seat.
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  74. So the republicans regret it? Is that what you are saying John? It is hard to listen to anyone this hypocritical lecture anyone.
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  75. The fact the polls are close means red is taking a worse beating than normal this year is all.
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  76. Am not happy to have been right ...
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  77. The fact it is even in play is what should be noted.
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  78.  @sohandesai4055  They have been dishonestly spitting on progressives period. The same clowns say bernie was selling out too. If you want to see this policy enacted attack those in opposition, not those who support you.
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  79. Throwing you a life preserver you seem to be drowning in cool aid.
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  80.  @SelectHawk  Then we should stop saying we are champions of democracy world wide perhaps.
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  81.  andre jamison  Every single way, Biden brought in war mongers, Trump surrounded himself with the very worst ones. Biden brought in wall street, Trump DID THE EXACT SAME THING, Biden tapped lobbyists, Trump put overt lobbyists and crony capitalist grifters in charge of every single portfolio. Trump deepened and widened the swamp and only has crooked clowns near him. Attacking Biden as worse is empty and fact free.
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  82.  @drsuffcatr8319 They are ham strung by a rule that no one else has to follow where they have to have all the money for their retirees as they hire them. Funding that is what has put them on the back foot, no one else could afford to the same.
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  83.  @ChristianMission  The post office has been messed up by political meddling meant to destroy it. It has long been a GOP dream to destroy the post office, that they put political appointee with conflict of interest investments in charge of it is to be expected from this admin who have have actively worked to hand power to corporations through overt failure.
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  84.  @drsuffcatr8319  The PO's problems are all rooted in our governments systemic corruption. Most of our leaders are owned by the highest bidder and have been for decades. The democrats are corrupt as they attempt to be like he republicans and get some of that sweet corporate money but the GOP is wholly owned and does not even pretend otherwise.
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  85. Trump himself demands censorship and canceling of anything he does not like.
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  86. Trump did not help them.
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  87. How do you blame Biden for this? He has not had a chance to appoint virtually anyone yet.
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  88. How is that censorship? They added needed context to lies. If they want to do so for people saying burn things down I am fine with that too.
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  89. She is misusing it, she meant assessment.
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  90.  @elijahculper5522  At least he has a plan to fight for it and not preemptively surrender before engaging. I can not imagine Bernie handing the GOP a supreme court pick or upping drone strikes for example.
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  91.  @venkatganesh6673  Ignore the multiple court cases pending. That does not make them go away. I do not watch MSM, that fact undermines your partisan spin.
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  92.  @mg.5968  She betrayed the movement that ones backed her. If you do not understand what we mean or think what Bernie fights for is crazy we were NEVER the same kind of warren supporter. She has lost me for every because I can not stand people who stab their friend's in the back or abandon a movement that was the core of her former support. She is done.
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  93. But she meant assessment
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  94. Everyone owned by corperate donor money is corrupt. They all need to be replaced and our election finance laws need to outlaw our leaders being for sale.
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  95.  @glorianma9968  It is a very safe bet you have no idea what you are opposing. No one is proposing "socialism" in the boogie man form you pretend. You attack a straw man cooked up crooked liars as they continue robbing you. It marks you a dupe or a dishonest shill. Which are you?
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  96.  @johnnytsunami3695  The entire establishment in both parties do the exact same thing. You can not look at gop policy and not see that they do not even pretend not to be owned.
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  97. @Kevin Tewey We need to replace the leaders owned by the 1% with ones beholden to americans. We need to acknowledge that truth and look at how our officials are funded. As it stands they are both corporately owed and I would argue the dems are paid to lose as they openly distain the will of their base to get donors. This is what has to change.
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  98.  @bink6778  I agree in principle, Hillary still pretended to be far more progressive to the general populace than her actual record as a republican masking as a democrat clearly showed. A good example of someone who does not even try to pretend to be anything other than a shill is Amy.
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  99.  @teresaaljayyousi8447  Which has been Bernie's message, she should drop out and and endorse him.
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  100. Like Trump and his family, have you not noticed the leadership on both sides are deeply into nepotism and enriching their own family and friends? They are all deeply corrupt.
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  101. Drop out Warren!
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  102. We have two choices this election, that does not mean we like either. The key is to pick the next president we wish to push to change, I would argue Trump unsuitable for this role. Leaving us with Biden and a commitment to push him day one with half his base at your back.
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  103. Wearing a mask protects others. Not the people wearing it.
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  104. The fact is the GOP and the DNC are equally complicit in free trade. They are equally complicit in selling out to wall street, the democrats fail because they are too much like the GOP ans spit on their own base.
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  105.  @adee1626  You are confused, just because you are a cultist does not mean everyone else is.
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  106. Replace corporatist with liberal I am am fine with your characterization Saager. These corporate robots committing to censorship is them acting right wing like the do on all economic issues. The left has no power in that circle and you know it.
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  107. It is hard to take a man whose dad killed JFK seriously.
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  108. There is no universe it makes sense to be a Bernie supporter and vote Trump. If the Dems are cancer, Trump and the GOP is metastasized full body cancer and I see it as a tough sell to pick them over nothing.
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  109. Lindsey has no principles and betrays all of concept he describes here.
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  110. Your choice of who you call criminal is very telling, go ahead and stand up for statures of traitors. We know where you stand.
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  111.  @stonecoldeli79 We do not need one, trump in acts his corruption before your eyes. You do not need a laptop to see it.
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  112. They may be the worst except for the extra horrible people who want Trump.
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  113. They are trying, the GOP said the same thing about Trump and look how that turned out.
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  114. He blew them with his tax cut .. he expected to be supported despite the human stain he has proved himself to be.
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  115. They really have tried. Picking joe, spitting on their base, running right, it is like they have an entirely different motivation than winning.
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  116.  Nolan Gleason  The problem is not the length of terms it is who our leaders work for. It is how they are funded that is the problem.
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  117. Tell me you have not idea what "dystopian nightmare" means without saying I have no idea what it means ... you are nailing it!
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  118. Trump and the entire GOP first, then we have a deal Lock them all up.
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  119. It should make us fight harder!
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  120. Trust is earned, Trump long ago lost mine. He literally does not deserve it.
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  121. Anything but Trump as this point. I loath Biden but voting for a proven failure is like Trump is indefensible at this time. Trump is every single fail Biden is plus, including cognitive decline. Biden is easily the the choice I wish to oppose.
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  122.  @bearyhot  I can list the good qualities of conservatives, I needed to understand them in more detail to better communicate with them. Most do not overtly back white supremacy but end up tacitly supporting it because they stand beside actual hard core racists who also contribute to the narrative. From an outsiders perspective Sherry's opinion has some generic merit. Conservativism is literally about group think, conformity and promotion of the status quo. This is easily confused as racism when the status quo has deep racist underpinnings from our past that in living memory were the standard and have not been erased. I disagree with her that all conservative are morons, most of just unsophisticated or poorly informed on key issues but they are not innately stupid or greedy. Their leaders consistently represent the worst traits of the group. I would argue that these conservatives leaders either cynically say stupid things to appeal to the base or have been convinced of nonsense themselves. The people who really understand the platform and what the GOP actually fights for are pretty bad people and are consistently greedy or directly seek policy that enriches their ingroup as a focus. Most conservatives are not that brand of fail. They are otherwise good people that have swept up by terrible leaders because their primary focus is continuity and moving toward a rosy picture of some imagined past they idealize. That is what the GOP sells. They have been tricked and misdirected by empty wedge issues and overt misinformation about those they oppose as not just in opposition but as evil. Any group that radically demonizes the another does so to bind them closer and helps the individual dismiss the ideas of others as wrong before evaluation. This is a 2 for 1 as it effectively strawman's opposing policy while satisfying a deep need to belong that is desired by the conservative mind. In the case of policy I do not see the two groups as equal in the veracity of what they demand. The conservatives have become overt tools of corporates lackeys' as have those who worship establishment democrats. Both these political leadership's would focus on identity nonsense over change in pursuit of the stasis that their donors love. One party has independent non corporately owned leadership and one does not. Until the conservatives steak some ground away from the corporatists they will consistently be called greedy and racist by outsiders because of who owns them and a blind need to defend broken things just because they are a legacy. There is a strong as of yet unanswered desire among the conservative electorate to change this dynamic. The Tea party and more recently their broad support for Trump shows a deep desire to move away from the status quo of the old school establishment republican leadership. This is clear recognition their existing leaders have been deeply problematic even before the orange man baby came along to break the republican mold and throw them into chaos.
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  123. Trump has lost EVERY SINGLE case he has brought, if he had a smoking gun we would see the smoke by now. Get this through your head Trump is done, get a crying bucket if you have to but get ready to deal with the reality which is coming if you like it or not.
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  124. Only if Bernie does not crush. I would like to see Yang in Bernie's cabinet.
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  125. Why would Biden concede? When would have she told him that?
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  126. @Olivia P He had options including what the GOP did as soon as they took power by limiting the filibuster. He had the bully pulpit and law on his side. He instead arrogantly calculated Hillary would win and let it slide to maintain a broken status quo. Obama was not Trump, but he was a giant disappointment who basically maintained the status quo end continued to empower overt corruption. I do not expert my president to always win, but I do expect him to always fight. Especially against the overt intransigence he faced which never gave him an inch.
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  127.  @ellsbells9943  It appears that Bernie does not surround himself with the "best people" like Trump does. #SimoneIsKellyConwayish
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  128.  @petert1692  Because they are literally the same cancer with a slightly different face. The shape of that face turns out to be important but their base nature will always be a barrier to meaningful change. Corporate crony democrats empower the right by acting as corrupt as the GOP. The main difference between them is the republicans say the quiet part out loud and directly appeal to their base with platitudes, slogans and wedge issues while democratic leadership ignores theirs knowing they have no where else to go.
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  129.  @venkatganesh6673  I am no disciple of MSM like you are of whatever nonsense you consume.
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  130. Stupid spin, he is the only reason we have chance to fight the swamp. He is not the swamp and that you think he is speaks to your ignorance/bias alone.
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  131. They shill for all establishment sellouts. They are so busy calling 50/50 all the time they never hit actual corruption that is killing Americans.
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  132. Honestly? Are you like 10? The jeasus freaks are the original vancel culture. Canceling swearing or calling your imaginary friend names is old school canceling you can no longer make work in the free market. You people have ways hated free speech.
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  133.  @JA-jr9nc  That is the entire GOP and the establishment dems are about. She is rejected by progressives because she is now one of them and is acting like it.
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  134.  @Les537  When you support the proud boys you no longer get to pretend to hate identity politics. No one thinks our history or culture is bad, our historical application of law is deeply questionable and slavery no matter how you slice it was terrible. Ignoring history means you doomed to repeat it, I see no upside hiding mistakes other people long dead made. They do not reflect on either of us do not need to be covered up.
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  135.  @ugbc3276  they call him racist because he does and says clearly racist things. If you support that you are likely racist too. I understand you being upset at being called out
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  136.  Bubbles McGee  No he did not, but If care about this issue that is literally the lowest standard you could possibly have. He made war much more likely and greatly expanded our military. He contributed genocides and broke "peace time" records dropping ordinance on civilian and military "non war" targets including Russian assets and foreign leaders. If you think that is a good "anti war" record you need your head examined.
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  137.  @motess5304  He made war with Iran more likely when he tore up the Iran deal, he then assassinated a military leader on foreign soil which is an act of war. Stop pretending to be anti war, it makes you look stupid.
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  138. Just lame, not so much crazy.
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  139.  @johnnytsunami3695  The "left" has no voice in the main stream media where they have been complaining about nothing burgers while there was real corruption in the Trump admin to report on. Biden is only bad because he pretends to be the GOP and chases both their voters and donors off a cliff trying to out GOP them while spitting on his own base. The idea Biden is more corrupt that trump is entirely fact free as Trump literally openly breaks the emoluments clause and has passed nakedly corporate friendly policy since day one with no push back from his supporters AT ALL. Trumps team has passed massive tax cuts for the rich, put overt shill lobbyists in charge of communication, education, defense, environmental regulation, etc, etc. There is NOTHING Trump is better than Biden on, NOTHING. That is pretty damning as Biden is shit.
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  140. Not on this version of earth, Trump is done!
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  141. Trump will quash it, he can not afford any more heat.
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  142. Sharp? We really define that word far far differently. My definition is the classic one and yours is based on your own deep limitations and the fact you a clearly a moron yourself.
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  143. Ya, we all know the GOP hates useless show votes (repeal ACA) and endless committees (Benghazi comes to mind) that go nowhere.
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  144.  @saintjames8018  Antifa is nothing but a bunch of disassociated children who hate fascists, they represent no one. BLM is not Marxist and you need to wake up as you buy the spin of liars who tell you they are. Until you get a handle on who you oppose you will look clueless as you attempt to discuss the issue and will be fighting imaginary enemies, it is a bad look and not very effective if you want to actually oppose those you dislike.
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  145.  America  You live in a radically different universe than I do. I have no idea where you get your information but it seems entirely counter factual. There is no data to back up your bizarre claims of republican popularity, none. I am not a CNN or main stream media guy and your empty dismissal and bizarre fact free spin speaks to your bubble not mine. Trump is a national security threat, his collapsing business as shown recently and giant debt makes him eminently personally vulnerable to foreign influence. I am not voting for Biden because I support him but because he is one of two monsters that is going to win. Biden's failures are eclipsed by Trumps. I do not like Biden but choose him tactically as the one I wish to oppose. Trump had his chance and failed hard, I can not imagine how anyone could even tacitly support his reelection.
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  146.  America  Look at this list of names from 2016 and tell me which ones and ran out to find new jobs right after the campaign. Steve Bannon. Kellyanne Conway. David Bossie, Katrina PiersonSam Clovis,Michael Biundo These people all went on to serve in the trump admin at least briefly before being fired or moving on. I apparently do know more than you, but that is not exactly a challenge. That does not stop you from making empty claims you do not care to back up even as you demand a different standard of others.
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  147. Says a guy that openly supports traitors and calls anyone he does not like one. The word has no meaning as you attempt to use it.
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  148.  @TaylorSharkey  I would rather it be based on public policy than letting a group of for profit vampires pick and choose for us. We have death panels and they kill 40 thousand Americans a year that would be covered in any other first world system.
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  149. Free speech is entirely intact as is the right to bear arms. The fear mongering on either of these issues from the right is empty nonsense.
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  150.  @alvarny77  There is no three way fight, the ideas of the establishment democrats are not popular. The right thinks they are all communist despite the fact most are at best 90's republicans and the left despairs they act like 90's republicans with a choice between them and overt wanna be fascists. The party needs to be torn from their corrupt hands and that it has not happened yet does not mean it will not happen as we move forward. The establishment's ideas are only popular with the donors alone and they win by misrepresenting their opponents and marginalizing them in the media. This has worked to date but is a strategy that is bearing diminishing returns ever single cycle. The establishment is vulnerable and gets more so as they run away from policy that is now popular with the base but hated by the donor class that holds both parties leashes. Trump proved the gop establishment is eminently beatable by running as an outsider, progressives can do the same by properly framing their opponents and taking the mantle of centrist from them. It is time to start pointing out the establishments policy that is radical according to the base's wishes.
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  151. What a joke Trump is, I never want to hear him talking about promoting "illegals" again. He surrounds himself with criminals.
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  152. He lost because he equivocated on Brexit, it had nothing to do with how far left he was. He gained huge on the same platform last time and no one was saying he did poorly because of his policy then.
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  153. Not about love, even Andrew does not expert to do well and said his people would likely go to Bernie as he sets up the alliances he may need later. I heard him say it
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  154. The issue is the "progressive caucus" is not comprised of only justice democrats (not corporately owned) and many are beholden to the same corporate interests as the leadership to get their support for reelection. As long as the corporate monsters hold the bulk of keys to being elected the "progressives" they control will not be free to act for their constituency.
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  155. He did not fight as you would have liked but he put the idea of an unowned leader on the map. He found an entirely new way to fund politicians, he set a new standard for consistency and integrity. He was not as aggressive as we would like but a look at his nature we should not be surprised. Bernie laid the path, it is time for us to walk it knowing we can not afford to pull our punches.
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  156. He deserved be laughed at as he plainly stupid things in public
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  157. They are still auditing everything and will get it to us any day now ... in the mean time he thinks we should preemptively give him the election.
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  158. What failures with Latino's could the democrats have that the GOP does not?
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  159. Short answer no, she is a fraction as electable as Bernie. A tiny fraction. #Bernie2020
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  160. Hard core breach, I would not put it past this admin.
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  161. No he is afraid of Trump winning again. This is not complex, it has nothing to do with supporting "moderates" who do not like the show anyway.
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  162.  Luis Alejandro  From an partisan fact free idiots point of view.
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  163.  Vox Populi  He is a better choice from a supreme court standpoint alone. They are both garbage but one is backed by the heartless GOP and the other side has voters that actually care about Americans and not just billionaires.
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  164. People do bring it up .. at this point it is thrown on the pile though.
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  165. Yes, but not in the way trump sells it, it is not corporate or fake enough for him.
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  166. Do get a walking helmet, you can not afford another head injury.
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  167. Except for the clowns who just put him in office.
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  168. The cracks in the mask made when she did not back Bernie were first exposed.
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  169.  @dariusevans9096  She will not do anything of the kind. She has spat on the progressive base and has ran this campaign as someone who does not care about the progressive agenda. Her mask is off and she should never be trusted again.
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  170.  @mckenzie.latham91  Not the same thing.
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  171. I like Yang but Bernie is my man this election.
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  172. This is exactly what we should expect from the Republicans. The democrats are owned but they are paid to lose and every way they sell out to wall street and the banks is owned by the republicans who do not even pretend otherwise.
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  173.  Eric Star  No one is burning down cities. There were a few examples of looting and damage, some of which was done by people other than the protesters you target. We have images of cops breaking windows, and examples right wing freak shows shooting cops to provoke violence. How do you square that circle in your head? You are have bought into nonsense because of your snowflake need to prop up a vacant identity. You clearly ignore that cops murder citizens weekly and pretend that is not a crime. You are confused or dishonest and this spin of Trumps only appeals to a shrinking subset of Americans as they see it for the empty sophistry it is.
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  174.  @f58534  They are chasing the GOP who have always been that.
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  175.  @iamisaid2295  Trump is wholly owned, you may have been able to pretend he was not just an establishment shill last election this is not longer in question. His policy is entirely driven by swamp monsters and he did nothing but dig it deeper and sell out harder. Trump has every single problem Biden, Biden's worst problem is he is too like Trump in too many ways.
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  176. Look to who funds both groups to understand their similarity.
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  177.  IkeThe Terrible  Lol, You and the Taliban agree on atheists you halfwit. Oh, that would be an old bill Marr fan, modern Bill sucks.
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  178.  andre jamison  This is bull shit talking point that does not even make sense if you know the military conflicts he was involved in. Presidents John F. Kennedy, Richard Nixon, Gerald R. Ford, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are on the list list of presidents who waged no new wars that were authorized in some way by Congress. Trump's term in office has not been the first four-year term since Eisenhower without a new war. Carter, Ford and Nixon all served after Eisenhower and did not bring the country into new wars.
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  179.  andre jamison  As he expanded the bloated military all this action did is undermine our alliances. If you think that is anti war you are letting your innate xenophobia confuse the issues. Desiring larger payments by our NATO allies is not an anti war stance. He makes war more likely with his actions not less as he breaks down long standing friendships to make morons who like the talking points generated happy. His party is entirely owned by the MIC and the multi nationals. They have never been anything else and that is why they lied us into war in the 2000's. As trump surrounds himself with old school neo con monsters he does not get to distance himself from their failures.
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  180. They have crime, asking for anything as a political leader that would empower their own campaign is illegal!
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  181. Hurts my heart too, she has burnt bridges I do not imagine ever being rebuilt.
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  182. For Prison.
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  183.  @3ndl3ssch0as6  But he has worked so hard for the prison thing, hate to ignore it.
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  184. She had weapons pointed at her family on camera. I am not sure where you get your info but apparently you need to see the whole thing. It is on tape !
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  185. Atteention on critical issues is what leaders are supposed to do
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  186. Telling us what the mostly uninformed american people think is less than useless.
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  187. This is not political, he is clearly a criminal. The fact is I would be happy to have dems investigated too, you would never say the same.
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  188.  erik norman  I do not know what will happen after I die but my purpose is determined by my life not death. I do not need a fairy tail to describe what can not be known. Worrying about what happens after you die is like stressing over a bet you were forced to make. You can you cannot change the outcome either way so it makes sense just wait and see what happens. Anyone that tells you how it will work out is blowing sunshine up your ass to make you feel better and give you the illusion you have some control over a total unknown. That my 6 year old still believes in Santa does not make him any more grounded in reality than those of us who no longer do. Blind faith in things does not make them true. Your brand of credulity and a common need for simple answers to complex questions is not the virtue it once was in the ancient world.
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  189.  @paulweeldreyer7457  The entire GOP is owned by the same assholes who corrupt Biden, Biden overtly ignores his base to chase donor money the GOP has traditionally owned. For Joe at least a large section of his base cares about corruption, the Trump voters do not. Biden's biggest problem is he wants the same dark billionaire money generally given to the republican's and has proven he is willing to spit on half his base to get it.
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  190.  @darrellscott7980  Nicer, the fact is Trump was a dumpster fire no matter what angle you looked at. I am no fan of Biden but Trump had every single flaw Joe has and a 1000 others on top.
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  191. You think the elite wander around when you are locked down? News flash sparkey, when there is a lock down there is no where to go for anyone.
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  192.  @ShantyIrishman  We are in agreement, I just caution everyone to remember who these guys are.
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  193. If he does not end up in prison on state charges.
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  194. The word she should have used is assessment, she is looks like a fool saying ascertainment in this context.
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  195. The right has never valued free speech for anyone but their own, NEVER.
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  196. 1 word: Stupid!
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  197.  @JA-jr9nc  He has a track record 40 years old where he has been saying the same thing. That is one long con ... Occam's razor says you are wrong.
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  198. So you are doubling down on the DNC's failed strategy that did not work? Trump is innately corrupt and if we had justice he would already be booted for breaking the emoluments clause. Pretending what Biden's son did is worse means you are not paying attention to the robbery in front of your face.
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  199.  Nob the Knave  No, that is not her job. She is a functionary who role is to enact the transition and oversee it, not ascertain if it should begin based on blind obedience to one side.
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  200. The right has always only valued speech they like. They would gleefully ban everything else.
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  201. Wow, bizarre take as you vote for trump. I am not sure how you imagine that shit show is in touch but it makes you think you are not.
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  202.  @christiangutierrez4462 Establsihmemt democrats chase the gop in corruption. The right owns being owned and does nit even pretend otherwise.
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  203.  @justthomas2488  Ya sure, you can be racist no matter your skin tone. It is not a feature of what you look like it is based on what you believe, say and support. This is not a complex idea.
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  204. Am no fan of Cuomo, but there are number of governors in the south who are objectively worse.
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  205.  @motess5304  Yes it is no, the very very least anyone should expect. On the other hand trump is pro MIC, pro drone strike, pro intervention, pro extra judicial assassinations. Waving around the fact he did not "start a war" means nothing to those who care about this subject. He killed more people with drone strikes and bombs than any non war president in history. He gets zero credit for things he does not deserve credit for. You can like Trump but this is not a subject he is good on, he is just not.
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  206.  @motess5304  Interesting very targeted metrics you consistently use. No wars, American lives lost. Not billions spent? Not number of troops deployed? Not number of drone strikes or civilian casualties? Not damage done to our relationships with allies? According to you saying he killed more people than any non war president is meaningless. While the fact he "did not start a war" while drone striking them or enabling a foreign "allies" geocide is. Again very odd. All presidents who were not overseeing a war are non war presidents. That includes a great many leaders. I would argue drone striking civilian targets on foreign soil is act of war, killing military leaders of opponents even more so. That would mean we both have trouble with our definitions then. Hard to crow that Trump did not start a war when it is clear by an honest standard he tried.
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  207.  @motess5304  Bottom line Trumps "No new wars" is not shiny if you bother to put it in context.
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  208. Not normally a fan of all caps lock posts, you get a pass today.
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  209. Bernie does not fear her.
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  210. Better than having a criminal halfwit like Trump.
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  211. Which contradictions? Do tell?
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  212. You sound like a hillary campaign staffer, totally ignoring the sirens blaring that there are rocks dead ahead.
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  213. Bernie 2020, why take a johnny come lately when you have the original.
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  214. It is the halfwits in this comment section that think mask use is communist who are still spreading it.
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  215.  @bigsnacks2350  Campaign people get jobs in the admin if the campaign is successful. The point is these people expect to lose and are already searching for jobs.
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  216.  @My2Cents91  We have the most expensive health care in the world by far. We pay double per person what everyone else does, spare us the employer negotiates bull shit. There is no upside to our system unless your are a predatory middle man or a crooked politician. There is no freedom in our system besides to bankrupt your family or die untreated to make useless middle men blood money.
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  217. Who tried to start a war last week and put even worse predators in his cabinet, no thanks. Biden fails because he is too much like the GOP.
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  218. The response should have been: "Who used them to destroy 500+ children's lives Donny? Who used them to destroy 500 +children's lives Donny?"
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  219.  @LiMitZplus  Fake populist, but I guess that title has populist in it.
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  220.  @robertbrander2074  They are bad too, but they are not overtly stupid even if they are missing parts and have the same greed and corruption problem Trump has.
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  221. @Adam Schuck True, Hillary was plenty crooked in other ways. I guess we can't put those failures past Warren either as she rips her mask clean off. Perhaps she is worse.
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  222.  Rafael R.  Trump
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  223. They regulate trade, ensure basic safety standards are met, build all the infrastructure that employers.use, aid with the development of new tech amd ensure our air amd water is clean. Your spin is deeply ignorant.
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  224.  @simonwinn8757  Nonsense, we are brand new movement taking power from an entrenched establishment formerly never challenged. The idea we were ever going to tear power from their hands easily as they control the media and coast on name recognition built on decades of control. We know exactly what the establishment is but unlike cons actually oppose the corruption endemic to both parties.
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  225.  Robin Banks  Face shields are more attached to personal protection from larger particulates like safety glasses are. A surgeon would wear one to protect from blood splatter and to keep particulate out of their eyes/ mucus membranes. It has been shown that wearing just simple cloth masks greatly reduces spread by the infected and protects those who are not infected. It is estimated with wide spread mask use like they have in Asia we could have saved over 100,000 lives. Wearing a mask in not political and is no real imposition on you. If everyone did it that would mean asymptomatic people would not as readily spread it and that would be a win for us all.
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  226. It is all really about how they are funded. What you said was once entirly true because they were all funded the same way. That is less a factor as more crowd funded leaders are elected. Leaders work for those who directly put them in office, who they get paid by matters.
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  227.  @quinnholloway5400 Rush was a major contributor to our division, if you care about that be pleased he is gone.
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  228.  @PeterbFree  Yes I would have the democrat, even Biden. The idea they are will more complicit with China than the GOP has been is idoicy. Every trade deal, every outsourcing was underwritten by the GOP. The democrats are only bad in so much as they agree on trade policy with the Republicans.
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  229. Their issue is not necessarily bias, it's they pretend they do not have one and frame the news to prop it up.
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  230.  @thenullreferenceexception8121  The GOP is still full of that corruption. Laughing because some have migrated to the dems because they are not down with Trumps brand of unashamed racism and flirting with fascism is an odd choice. Pretending the dems for whatever their faults is the neo-nazi party is stupid as ALL the actual neo nazi's still vote gop because they are the ones that pander to their wedge issues daily.
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  231. Silly, he is the only reason the progressive community has a path forward to any kind of power. Ignoring that truth is service to stasis.
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  232. When describing seeking of an alleged murderer who is then killed in a shoot out with federal officers cops as retribution it is indicative of a desire to kill them. Our criminal process is not supposed to be about retribution, it is meant to promote justice. This attitude is why our cops murder so many citizens.
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  233.  @Rick-5728  Murdering them is retribution, arresting them is an application of justice as they wait their day in court where that body gets to punish them for any crimes they are convicted of. See how that is supposed to work? Cops lie about being threatened all the time and their word should never be taken at face value when their life and job is on the line. It is just one more reason they should all wear body cams, good cops have nothing to fear and the vids will exonerate them. One wonders where the body cam footage for this arrest attempt is, be good to see it so to clear the cops of any accused wrong doing don't you think?
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  234.  @Rick-5728  I would caution you do the same. When anyone talks about retribution and then they die it is considered telling.
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  235. Right after Trump.
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  236.  @adee1626  Ok culty. You should get a crying bucket, you look sad walking around with tear wet socks.
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  237. Alleged murder.
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  238. I like Yang but Bernie is the one that will enact real change.
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  239. He does not .. in 2016 he had no name recognition and is still terribly represented in the media and gets little or only genitive coverage. He has always rose .. there is no ceiling as he taps non voters and the more america hears about him the more they like him.
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  240. There are a lot of deaths that covid owns that will never be included in the numbers.
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  241. If you look at the actual polls Bernie stomps them on that metric. Just saying.
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  242. It is not clear you understand what that word means, it is a safe bet you do consume actual propaganda based on your spin.
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  243. As he spits on our constitution every single day it outs you. You clowns will never be able to wrap yourself in the flag again without being laughed at.
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  244. She has already ham strung herself in both legs from my perspective.
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  245. Because it is only one state and he needs 4, there is no path to a Trump victory at this point. Literally none.
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  246.  Glow Worm  So it is cool that 13,000 totally healthy people died of it over the last month and half? Many more who survive have permanent lung damage, get your head out of your ass. This is a dangerous thing to get especially as you likely know a couple people with those health conditions.
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  247.  @stonecoldeli79  of course he would have been better. I see the dnc for what it is but understand the gop has every issue the dnc does only worse. I dislike Biden but Trump is worse in every way that matters and we need to be ready to fight for what we need no matter who wins.
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  248. Same thing as voting for Trump, if you are cool with that so be it. Jimmy is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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  249.  @tomasinacovell4293  Yes they sell a fantasy. We have losers selling the corporate media as on the left. We have center right people selling it as in the middle. It is neither, it is self serving spin on behest of the same small group of assholes who have bought almost all our leaders in both parties. The fact is it is owned by the same assholes who own the government and it serves only those interests. It fails not because it is fake but because it's primary purpose is to prop up the status quo both parties are controlled by.
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  250. The more they put their fingers on the scale the harder we will fight and the more people will flock to our banner. We get stronger as they are clearly shown as incompetent or crooked or both.
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  251. Not sure they can pull it off. The RNC could not stop Trump because they had no one with giant head start and the DNC has the exact same problem this time. They have nothing to stop him.
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  252.  @1handedtyper  Ya but no they can not. Technically they can but as the GOP proved they could not stop Trump either. They did cheat least election against Bernie but it was all on the margins cheating. None of that will work this time. Anything more overt than that will destroy the party and their candidate even worse than hillary was wrecked. The GOP sighed and gave in letting trump win and the dnc will have not have any more options than establishment republicans did in the end. By your standard it could be said that the entire election is irrelevant as they can just hand the presidency to who they want to anyway. Bush lost and Trump lost the popular vote but both still "won" so it is safe to say the presidential election is fixed and picked in smoky rooms. Personally I don't believe that but you must if you are consistent.
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  253. Ben is a paid liar.
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  254. A future president perhaps?
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  255. We already have literally the least number of holidays.
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  256. I am not fan of Biden, but if you still buy trumps lies at this point you might want to get a walking helmet. You probably can not afford another brain injury.
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  257.  Joey Duggar  No, he could be impeached to half a dozen things if the democrats were not spineless losers. But in the case he is involved in right now asking Ukraine for information on his political rivals and holding back aid passed by congress is clear violation of law. That you do not care or understand what the law is does not change it. But he really should be impeached on the emoluments clause, he accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars at his hotels and handed Saudi's weapon sales for billions while ignoring they are publicly murdering journalists. He is directly complicit in their genocide in Yemen and this is not only a clear violation of law but is also egregious dealings with a despicable and American ally. You do not know what you are talking about and pretending your orange blowhard is anything but a political hack is mindless. That you like what he says does not make him a cent better than the people you hate. The establishment democrats are the Washington generals to the Gop's Harlem globe trotters of corruption, paid to lose. They are all corrupt but pretending the king of the swamp is any kind of un-corrupted saint marks you as a moron or blind. There are 3 or 4 people in government who are not owned by outside interests, none of them are in the GOP.
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  258.  @pseudonymy  Ya it is, when you focus all your inquires on your political rivals buddy. When you hold off aid passed by congress to further personal goals that is a direct violation of law. He has no mandate to investigate a single case against a single rival. Quit pretending he does. In a country that is legendarily corrupt it is telling where he starts concerned trolling about corruption as he fills cabinet posts with oppo lobbyist's and and has expanded the swamp to new giant reaches. He he bigger problems at home with corruption and pretending this was out of concern is silly.
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  259. We are trying but the foxes run the hen house for the moment til we tear it from their overtly corrupt hands.
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  260.  @DemocracyorDie  As a monolithic institution with control over one of the two parties we can not afford to leave it intact or in place as it is. If we do not then we can expect the donors to continue to control the process. It needs to be taken over, re-tooled and re-branded as a party funded by the people. When Bernie wins he gets picks the leadership of the group. From there we get the destruction you seek with a rebirth as something new.
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  261. Blame Biden for spitting on his base and what 70% of the country wants in M4A. The problem Biden has is not everyone wants to vote for a republican.
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  262. Ya, unless you are willing to elucidate why your disagreement is a waste of time.
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  263.  @barbarajohnson1442  TBH I do not think there is any consideration for the workers. I have not seen them be concerned about normal people before when setting economic policy. More likely it is the hundreds of billions the insurance companies make that hold us back. I think it is just a matter of time before it will be done, it saves to much money and too many lives to be ignored forever.
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  264. and they do like a presidency that calls them rapists?
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  265.  @julianp4214  If you say so, do you think Trump's deportation policy is better? Obama sucked but Trump ran on demonizing the entire community then continued Obama's policy on steroids. Trump is in no way better on this issue.
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  266. No one should trust the FDA under trump. He has shown a clear lack of concern for american lives and it is safe to say nothing he says should ever be trusted at face value. I am not remotely anti vax, but mistrusting this government or it's affiliates is a very logical and justifiable position. Saggar, If there is a 'war' on science it is being waged by the right and the religious psyco's that trust fact free partisan preachers and their gut more than actual research.
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  267. Incompetence or conspiracy or both. Glad he is gone.
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  268. I pick Biden as the one I want to oppose. Half his base agrees with me and that is a good place to start.
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  269.  @thesoughter  Your focus on the left is very very telling. Your overtly partisan spin is noted and is being directly reflected back. Your own medicine always tastes bitter.
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  270.  @thesoughter  Your use of "leftist" is the root of my point. It is your framing not who you support that draws the logical inference. Being against censorship is laudable, appearing one sided in your application of the concern is not.
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  271.  @thesoughter  Censorship will exist in one form or another. Free speech has distinct limits. You can not yell fire in a crowded theater, you can not issue direct threats. So the concern about censorship is just a matter of where we draw the line. Censorship has historically been deeply problematic because we all do not agree with or trust the censors and their values. We all need to come to agreement on some basic things. Just like you can not directly threaten someone with your "free speech", we should also look at restricting speech of those who incite violence especially through the use of overt lies. Currently all these forums are business's who have a right to control what is on their platform. I would prefer we change them to be public services that have a responsibility to platform everyone according to the first amendment with a very clear TOS that is evenly applied as by law. Either way the TOS of both will not allow anyone to ferment public violence or hatred through overt lies. Yelling fire in a theater should be a crime and so should what Trump has done. At the very least he deserves de-platforming even on an actual public service. Inciting a riot through misdirection should be considered bad. Know the decisions made by these corporations are financial and legal not political. These platforms are not "leftist", they are corporatist. This should not be a left/right issue and in this case trump being de-platformed is not.
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  272. @Edit D In my defense when you make nonsense arguments that do not apply to me you seem like a trump supoorter. Not believing in math or numbers makes you seem even more like one. It is practically a defining trait. Just a fyi.
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  273. @Edit D But I am right and your talking points are not connected to realty. These numbers in Georgia are bad for Trump even if they are not set in stone.
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  274. @Edit D You posted on my thread, go away or at least don't whine when I respond to replies made directly to me The numbers are what they are, am just saying they are not great for the orange man baby. I never said I belive everything I read. I said this poll does not bode well for trump. There is no faking support for dems in Georgia, in a short time we will see for ourselves. I see zero upside in anyone lying about it.
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  275.  @moxavenger The polls were essentially correct in 2016. Hillary won the popular vote within the margin of error of the polls. No matter how you slice it these numbers are not good for Trump. They may not be definitive but that are a dark indicator for him.
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  276.  @moxavenger  if you say so. If he was a dem president the entire gop base would blame him as they would be told to. Everyone but his base feels the same way about trump. The economy is in the tolilet, our pandemic response has been garbage. Like it or not the encumbent owns that handicap. It is just a matter of who is weaker now. It is going to be close. Remember he lost the popular vote to an unpopular cancer like Clinton running a good campaign against the establishment. This time he owns that failure and is running a silly campaign pretending Biden is pro antifa. Bad news for captain bone spurs fans.
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  277.  @mr.thomas8091  Neither should Trump the half wit c student.
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  278. There is no such thing as a GOP member who is economically populist. They sometimes talk the game but are as so corrupt they vote establishment down the line.
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  279.  @holyromanracist5759  Dude there is a shuffle every election and they re-staff many positions after. If what you were saying was true incumbent presidents would have a harder time finding staff than challengers as no one on their team could expect continued employment. That is not the case.
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  280.  @holyromanracist5759  Being told how these things work as you ignore how they work is funny. Ok all of trumps staff expects to be unemployed in two weeks. Might explain why he is getting his ass kicked.
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  281.  @dinopanteloukas6868  Am not rank and file anything. I am not going back to sleep and I am not going to let those around me do it either. We are building the movement and taking dem voters and changing the way we think is part of that process.
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  282. Hard to listen to trump babble about this, half his do nothing family work in his administration with no experience.
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  283. Think they might go so insane they try attempt to impeachment them over a blow job? The GOP opened this door a long time ago, thier impeachment was total nonsense. Hard to imagine a worse one.
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  284.  @rworded  Solidarity!
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  285.  @davidk2187  What they say means less and less, they look crooked or incompetent and who they dislike automatically looks better.
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  286.  @StrategicWealthLLC  Your argument is a sound in context and I once made it myself before reconsidering diametrical support for it later on. The element that broke it for me was an evaluation of the methods that had been traditionally used to select for those jobs in the past. Historically hiring practices were just as biased as affirmative action with out any rules around them and they propped up specific communities anyway in much the same way. We never were a meritocracy and so the criteria used to evaluate candidates especially for public jobs need more clarity. We never were hiring the best and brightest but predominantly people of a specific gender and race for key rolls. This was true before there were rules promoting minorities hiring to break historic inequities even in place. These kinds of policies are much more important in public service jobs that should reflect the community they serve. We should not go back to the default of ignoring minorities for these rolls and it is arguable it is not the problem it once was so these rules are not as necessary today. Evaluating the criteria used to hire people helps take out the innate bias that was in the system and this policy moved us toward the actual equality we both support but was not reflected in our society before these kinds polices where enacted and opened the workplace to millions of people who would not have been considered before.
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  287.  B. Greene  Not going to happen this cycle, the effort is a worthwhile one in the long term and I will be with you when we can make a real difference. Good luck.
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  288.  @BusterABrown  more likely a facist one given who is in charge and who is running.
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  289. Or to tear the party from their weak and ineffective hands. I see no reason to leave them at our backs with knives.
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  290.  @chieflouie2821  They were calling for the murder of officials, celebrities and literal insurrection on it. They broke their TOS with the service provider and that has consequences. This is not "speech" that should be protected or supported, investigated and charged perhaps but not supported. Kicking them off the service is the least that should be done, the conversations detailing any crimes or planned crimes need to be fully investigated.
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  291. Nonsense, but the days of letting them fail without comment are over. Calling out why we are losing is what people who care about winning do.
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  292. We expect this from them, they are crooked and in the tank for anyone but Bernie. That is why Sanders is going to win. Their support is a kiss of death.
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  293. Silly, you are defending a cancer in our society that lionizes traitors as heroes. Own that.
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  294.  Jiminy Cricket  Fine, I would not expect much from this admin in the way of taking care of people on this front. This was always going to be the worst part of a Biden admin.
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  295. Do you honestly find it amazing he wanted that guy dead?
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  296.  @anthonytwohill9726  There may be some real truth to your observations.
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  297.  @anthonytwohill9726  Not yet anyway, do not let it dissuade you if you do. These ideas ring as intuitively true which is good place to start any conversation.
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  298. Wishes and prayers.
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  299. To who. This is funny and Rudy has it coming. I love to see assholes punked.
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  300.  @intense5335  You have to have a valid legal basis to give them an option to hand the man baby the election. He does not have one. Not one law suit has made it past square one there is no pretense to hand trump a single contested state let alone the 3 or 4 he needs, You are buying naked fiction. You need proof of the asserted fraud they litterally can not show in court. The fact he has not means it does not exist. There is but one case for one state that will change nothing even if the Supreme court rules the already sequestered and un-added votes in question invalid.
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  301.  @intense5335  There is NO path to trump winning anymore. The key states have been certified and there is no pretense for the supreme court to overrule the will of the electors in each place. It is over! Only in the mind of Trumpist could getting all your cases thrown out of court be a win, Get a box a tissues I sense you are about to cry all over your shoes.
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  302. @Halber Mensch In that case it was actually close. One state within 500 votes. Pretending this is the same ignores the facts associated with this election. Facts are not on your side sparky.
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  303. @Halber Mensch You are the flailing, projection is a really a thing for you guys! If they had evidence the time to present it was in the case delaying certification of Pennsylvania. They had nothing! They have hard failed in every court case they have brought and consistently say when in court they are not even asserting fraud took place. Republican federalists Judges are dismissing their cases BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO EVIDINCE. None of your comments are going to age well, mark my words and remember I told you so. No need to flail when you are winning, I just need to watch it unfold. But flail away if you must, it changes nothing.
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  304.  @mcoo465  That is like telling Biden to keep breathing, there is no reason for him to concede.
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  305.  @Tedss-wd3ni  Says a clown who lives in fact free bubble and buys total nonsense. Being called a sheep by a clown whose main allies call themselves a flock and their god a shepherd is pretty funny.
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  306.  @larrycarmody8325  Where do you get your information? The Apprentice not close to the longest lasting. Not even kind of close.
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  307.  @philipaldrick5363  The establishment clowns are corporate tools not pawns of the Chinese. They serve capitalists who want cheap slave labor and no worker protections to build their products. The Chinese/Corporate alliance is backed and built by both parties and that you pretend the GOP is not an innate part of it marks you as clueless. Our problems with the Chinese are directly linked to outsourcing our jobs to fill the pockets of domestic lobbyist crony capitalists. This has nothing to do with promotion communism outside it's slave labor potential, a policy that does not fly here and is supported by no actual voting constituency. This unholy alliance with the authoritarian Chinese is supported by the entire corporate right/left and not anyone on the actual unowned left. The corporate tools openly loathed by the actual left bend over backwards for innately authoritarian corporate and very much capitalist's stains blindly willing to crush anyone for extra profit.
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  308. They took a chance before? When? When they elected Obama and won both houses? THEY DID NOT TAKE CHANCE last election and by playing it safe lost. The idea they the "centrists' know how to win should be beaten like a drum to steal a phrase.
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  309. Not true. He aided in the genocide in Yemen, publiy assinated a forign general an act of war, unilaterally bombed Russian assets, ended the iran deal escalating tensions to start a war long desired by the gop. Increased already record drone strikes to new levels. Every president but gbj can make the same claim you did. Trump called him self a war President, just stop!
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  310. Do tell us what is going on.
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  311.  @Drathrin  Buy who? Trump supporters have to stop pretending the GOP is not a tool of the elites and always has been. They do not even pretend otherwise.
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  312. It is a matter of choosing who you wish to oppose, trump has to go!
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  313. This is already all over the media. It is nothing burger and the fact trump has outstanding pending court cases mean nothing to you as you clowns only want to see justice applied against your opponents. News flash sparkly, Hunter is not running.
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  314.  @usssanjacinto1  He is not my guy, I am nothing like you. This is nothing but projection from a Trump supporter who regularly ignores the criminal failures of his corrupt man baby leader. News flash for you chum, Hunter is not running and Trump is already indicted on several cases currently pending before the courts. If this Hunter thing is a big concern to you then you must be apoplectic over Trump, you are not? Shocker! Our government is corrupt but the entire GOP is cess pool as are the establishment democrats including Biden but most especially Trump. So all things being equal Trump should not get to crow about special favors for anyone else's useless entitled children without being laughed at.
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  315. No they won't, he is part of the corrupt circle jerk they are all involved in to distract you from the sad truth that none of these pricks care if your live or die. It is noise to hide the fact that all of us on the left and the right are being robbed and lied to as no one we elect is allowed to work for us. They all serve a group of clowns who own both parties at the same time. All this bluster from Russia gate to fake news complaints are empty window dressing to paper these truths over to put us each others throats. I keeps us from looking up at the real source of all our problems as they work to keep us divided against ourselves.
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  316.  @JA-jr9nc  Silly spin, you lose all rational credibility as you refer to him as a "Commie". It makes you look out of touch with reality, like you are stuck in an opaque ideological bubble. If this is a con, it is life time in the making. He has been right for 40 years, former corporate ownership of the process is not his failure.
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  317.  @lalaydade3364  She used the word incorrectly, vocabulary is not your thing.
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  318.  @lalaydade3364  I am not defending them per se. The fact it was used incorrectly but is still a word amounts to a distinction without a difference in him thinking it was funny.
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  319. I do not agree Saagar, I see the idea that they would destroy the post office for political reasons as making total sense. Letting the actual actions of the Trump admin go unremarked has no value. That they were some hyperbole by some people does not mean the issue is "fake" posturing like Russia gate mostly was if we look at how seriously they took it when they had the chance to adjudicate it.
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  320.  @mariabykofsky4502  Silly bullshit, why reach back as trump called on the his proud boys to stand by last week. That stretch must pinch a lot.
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  321.  @ugbc3276  Whatever, if the shoe fit swear it. When you support racists or policy that is overtly racist you stand the risk of being called racist. If you do not like the characterization, evaluate your choices and change. Otherwise suck it up. Get out of fact free bubble, Trump is human skid mark below contempt, saying the is insane as you support broken monster that is trump marks you as likely TFG.
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  322. No need to steal them when both parties are owned by the same assholes since the 60's.
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  323. Every single one that has gone to court has been nonsense so far. Not one has borne out, that is a bad record to be making the empty assumptions you do. Bring them all to court, they are changing nothing.
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  324.  @libertarian4323  They have no other valid options as designed.
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  325. Not smeared as a tyrant, he is tyrant based on what he has done to protest and free speech.
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  326.  @pietersteenkamp5241  You will not see those groups highlighted because it does not match the narrative those who want to ignore the virus.
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  327.  @pietersteenkamp5241  Interesting spin, we should take their lauding of the country and extend it so they support the practical for once.
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  328.  @didntwantahandle  You can and Rudy fell for it. It is not a crime but getting outraged for him is silly.
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  329.  @StevenBrener  I agree with the spirit of your sentiment. Very few deserve to be deeply disappointed to the point of tears regardless of what they stand for. The sore winner crowd you spoke of are among the few excepted from that standard. I extend my empathy to those who possess it, not those who loathe the concept entirely. I do understand any distaste you have for my schadenfreude, but it is real hard for me to feel too bad for these guys.
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  330. Intellectual honesty is not your thing guy.
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  331. Not sure what that means, she is on the same left you are. She has a different perspective on how to apply the power she has. You have a difference on style not substance.
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  332. And trump had a secret Chinese bank account. Lots of distraction out there ...
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  333. You find it hard to imagine anyone in the crowd sporting a confed flag?
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  334. Correct, no one expected him to win it.
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  335. I do not have a lot of sympathy for anyone demanding reopen the economy. Our government has failed our population by not supporting them and instead bailing out the richest. There is no reason to ignore a virus which will kill millions including many of these protesters or people they know.
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  336. Those lefties were called regressive because they were acting like cons always have by trying to ban speech they did not like.
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  337. They do this to us we need to march in the millions
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  338.  @replynotificationsdisabled  No one you know thinks you are clever Teddy.
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  339.  @Vanderearden  Of course it is a low bar! That is why i will not cede the assertion she will be the democratic candidate. The establishment democrats are losing ground and are not getting stonger even as the party does. We primary and win this time by not pulling our punches. We go for their political thorats.
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  340.  @Skitdora2010  Conservatives are the original snowflakes and despite the fact there has been a rise on the left of some the right has always owned the idea. You are the owners of cancel culture and have rejected and marginalized anyone outside the norm for decades. You have all the church ladies who are offended about EVERYHTING, you have all the book burners, the losers who want to say what it is ok to wear, say or do, you own the offense junkies. You do not get to pretend this is an exclusive feature of the left when the right has always owned it.
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  341.  JR 1986  You are snowflakes for acting like snowflakes.
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  342. Pretty predictable
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  343. That would mean Trump cheated too as he also beat Obama, or lots of people wanted to vote this election. Occam's razor is your friend.
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  344.  @bigsnacks2350  Ok, normal incumbencies do not have a raft of campaign staffers looking for work just before the election. Just saying.
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  345. The fact is poor and middle class DID NOT benefit more. The top 5% got 80% of the tax cuts benefits. The tax cuts for everyone under 70k expire while those for the wealthy do not. The spin this guy shared is entirely counter factual, they are what should be called bald faced lies.
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  346. Being afraid of the American brand of socialism is to hate democracy.
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  347.  @TCt83067695  That was not Chuck who did that, you are thinking about Jeff Weaver.
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  348. Parasitic?
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  349.  King Honkie  why you want to pay double for your insurance to make money? You do know the nature of insurance means you are always paying someone else's claim, it is a base part of the model. Our system is not a meritocracy, quit pointing to your case as a example it is not.
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  350.  King Honkie  It would cost you less, put more money in your pocket. Make it so a medical emergency is not also a financial one. Your money is not sheltered, it is stolen and I see no upside in handing it to useless middle men who bring absolutely no value. I have a great job and 30 years of skills to fall back on. I make this argument not for me but for others that are dying or going bankrupt to prop up our broken system. I know this the idea of caring for other Americans is a tough concept for you which is why I have appealed to your greed which typically strikes home. It is time to free employers of the responsibility and hassle of providing health insurance. It is time to let the small shops who can not afford to compete one on one with the big places who can offer insurance to employee's. It is time to free people to innovate and start their own business by guaranteeing health care as a right and not tying it to their employer. There is no upside in our existing system and is ruining Americans to make some rich useless middle man money,
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  351. Not possible, there is no case that the supreme court could use to flip 5 states at this point. It is all kabuki theater for the base.
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  352. And she stabbed her "friend" in the back on live TV .. so there is that too.
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  353.  Erick Urias  He has done nothing but pad the pockets of his cronies and sell us out to the highest bidder. Trump would step over your body for a quarter and has proved it.
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  354. That is what they want, it should make us want to fight them harder.
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  355. Or at least not owned by the highest bidder like they almost all are.
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  356. Her claims have been vindicated. She was just award "whistleblower" status, it validates her claims Saager just tried to ignore with Florida republican talking points.
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  357. No funding, no leaders, no doctrine, no organization, no political support. ANTIFA a smoke screen for morons and cowardly tough guy fascists to be afraid of.
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  358. I deeply disapprove
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  359. No, actually staffers regularly take poisons within the administration if they win. They point is these people expect to lose.
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  360. Yes we should call people who do that conservative. They own that!
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  361.  @cherylhart9578  That would mean he is regressive
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  362.  @notNefon  THEY WILL WORK FOR HIM IN OFFICE IF HE WINS. They do not think he will so they are lookin for work, that is the the point of the story.
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  363.  @FinnaRealtawk2323  Speaking of ignorance, you are clueless on how this works. THEY GET JOBS IN THE ADMIN HE WINS, they do not expect to win so are looking for work. How is this complex to you people? Your brain is broken.
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  364.  @FinnaRealtawk2323  Give your head a shake your self as your spin is bizarrely simple and child like. The point being it is the important people that are looking for work not polling people. The people being spoken of in this report are the people who would staff the next Trump admin. They are looking for work before the campaign is over. That is notable as them not expecting to win. How is this complex to you?
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  365.  @diogenes5127  The fact is I do not see Biden's people looking for jobs. There is a reason for that as many continue to work if they are part of a winning campaign. It is what these jobs searches from trumps people mean right now that is relevant, not that they are looking.
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  366. Is true, we will be mad but then what?
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  367.  @dougd1573  We know, it is pretty clear you do not understand what the word means and likely support actual traitors as you spit their dishonest projection spin.
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  368. You would think if they had all this evidence they would stop having press conferences to announce it and bring them to a court. Rudy evidence is the only thing that matters now, you are out of time as the last couple states ratify the results in favor of Biden.
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  369.  @springerworks002  No evidence, they have failed in every court they have been to. The only place they are winning is in specific court of public opinion, that is because they apparently need no evidence just innuendo and empty unbacked assertions there.
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  370. They have brought forth NOTHING. Expect more of the same, what they say to the press and to judges are two very different things. Lying has consequences in court, on TV not so much.
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  371. And Santa, we need Santa's blessing.
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  372.  @MW-jp4lk  I think it best if we rely on ourselves. The history of God stepping in and stopping catastrophe is dangerously spotty to non existent. The fact it is asserted God can do anything does not mean he ever bothers to act. He regularly ignores horrific tragedy. He has a shockingly bad track record for an all powerful being.
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  373.  @prblmchild83  I really liked your first paragraph because we completely agree. I like first sentence of the the second less because do not like the concept we deserve the quagmire even if from the outside I could see why you would think we do. Blaming external problems is the feature not the bug, it is done to take the standard voters eye off the ball so the monsters in charge can continue to rob us and every nation they touch. Bottom line, you are basically right and we need to push back look squarely at our countries failures. We need to take ownership of problems and face them head on. I suspect in no scenario will preying to the sky god be of much help.
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  374. At this point I am happy to see her get nothing at this point.
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  375.  @jeromeproctor1668  I am still a big fan of Bernie despite his obvious short comings. That he was not willing to play the game of hardball I would have him play, that he was too nice is well within his character profile from the start. His ideas have galvanized a movement, he has shown a new way for candidates to be funded, he has popularized policy the establishment to this day runs away from. He gave us all the tools we need to eventually take the party from the sellouts who own it now, for that I will be eternally grateful to him. Time will see this movement grow, the genie is not going back in the bottle.
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  376. I would argue the gop which is a religous do nothing anti science freak show made the American experience far worse than it should have been.
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  377.  J Carver  That day never existed in the modern world and would be far worse than our broken system now. There is no such thing as a first world country with no government.
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  378. That concern is mitigated by primarying his admin out and putting a much more progressive face in his place.
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  379. Is a feature of how bad trump is that he gets my vote, that being said I am looking forward to pushing back against Joe day 1
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  380.  @francinel8154  Really stupid. Pretending the establishment democrats who are corporate hacks are socialist makes them more popular halfiwit.
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  381.  @AdmiralBison  I know. That is why I demand she drop out. It is a hard mask off moment she already telegraphed in 2016
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  382.  @alvarny77  The number of pro Trump people willing to shoot other Americans over this are small and we can handle a handful of terrorists.
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  383. @Lena Tumblehop Does not matter, he is more left than Trump by any stretch of the imagination. If he does not move he will pay for it next primary. The fight for change can not stop because it is hard.
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  384.  @chuckdickinson7123  Mask usage helps because it aids in preventing from spreading the virus to others if you have it. in a country where 5% of the population has been infected that has value. Cloth masks are not intended to protect the wearer. Think of why surgeons wear a cloth mask? It is not because they expect to be infected by the patient. The concern is not for those who recover. Part of the concern is the fact that 10% of the people who get it have long term issues even after recovering. A certain number end up needing ICU if they are to have any chance of surviving. Letting it spread widely means we will not have enough hospital beds to care for them. The idea this is a harmless virus is a lie sold to you by monsters that have proven they would step over your families bodies for a nickel.
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  385. It is arguable Trump would have broke the TOS of a public utility too. At least the guidelines would be clear and fairly enforced by the standard of law. Not unevenly applied corporate decree based on perceived potential loss of profit.
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  386. pretty wide and complete list, some of them have been edited out due mostly to taste but you have a very complete list there.
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  387. I am always pleased when I see anyone from the right call out real issues consistently with out partisan bias.
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  388. Has Pete declared victory yet?
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  389. So far so good.
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  390.  Silver Boy  Well done con, you know conservatives by their detachment from reality and their need to straw man anyone they oppose generally with their own faults. The "filled with hatred" spin is an excellent example of projection of your innate flaws onto those you dislike. Rush was a hate machine, catch up sparky.
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  391.  @tulanzuya  Go back and sit down with evangelicals and other radicals who pretend to be Americans but really want to live in Saudi Arabia.
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  392. This is dishonest and plays badly .. keep talking Liz. You are doing yourself no favors.
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  393. Because they only care about imaginary democratic pedo's.
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  394. Trump tried to start a war last week, they start wars all the time. Pretending it is the democrats that are the problem ignores the fact they simply support the GOP in it's natural warmongering way. You should be ashamed for being a NPC that enables monsters with silly myopic spin.
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  395. Here us a crazy idea, treating blocking streets as deeply criminal empowers.only tyrants!
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  396.  @marcuskervy6507  Why does that make one a "fool"? There may be a god, what is foolish is demanding you know their mind when every single faith makes conflicting claims. Shaming someone for not picking the same sky daddy as you do is little more than a projection of your own insecurity.
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  397. For prison.,
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  398. Yes you should vote in your interest, I like to think about which one of these two assholes I wish to oppose in term. As they both are broken cancer, I will pick the one to best oppose and can be moved to get things done. There is only one choice in that context.
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  399.  @jstreets1983  That is stupid spin if you care about progressive causes at all. I honestly get it if you can not vote for Joe. But then I think ALL voter shaming is idiotic as it both useless and counter productive including your not so subtle brand. Your spin is little more effective than Hillarie's. I think Biden is a wasteland, useless and actually hostile to progressive interests. That being said of the two choices he is the best one for any progressive to oppose because half his base in our camp while NONE of trumps is. Voting for Biden in my case is a tactical choice because we simply can not afford another 4 years of Trump. If you care about progressive ideals at all Biden is the president you want to oppose, this is not a complex idea for me. As you take this spin over what amounts to petulant anger about Bernie you have bought nonsense from factions that never wanted him to win in the first place and undermines the gains we have made. No worries he is not running for president again anyway, relax.
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  400. No, the opposite. They opened themselves up to the laws they were formerly exempt from.
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  401. Or airline, or university, or casino, or ..., or ...
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  402.  @ellyvellia1039  Good little sheep, it is funny when you npc's who are consistently religious, who's congregation is a flock and they follow a shepherd calls anyone else one. Even if you do not follow the "lamb of god", you stand beside the sheep sparky.
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  403.  @chosen_ones777  Ya they tried, it did not fly and Pete is not expected to win big any time soon. The last couple contests do not indicate the bump he would have needed out of cheating. The cheating platitude machine of failed Mayor Pete is in full zombie mode.
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  404. They kicked off plenty of left wing people too. No one has a right to their platform or to post on it. They are a private space and unless you want to apply first amendment rights to these business's there is nothing to do. My suggestion to Alex and the other people kicked off go make your own face book and set your own polices.
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  405. What?
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  406.  @dodioxoopey8843  Pretending the election was stolen or that voting machines cheated or any number of unverifiable lies that never stood up in court but were repeated right up to the moment Trump was banned. Safe bet that is propiganda you like so you call it information. The fact is this is one man saying what he thinks. Like it or not, it is not propaganda but a statement of belief from a private citizen. A republican citizen at that.
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  407.  @dodioxoopey8843  There was none. NONE. 60 court cases, 1 they won and it lowered cure dates from 6 to 3. That is one horrible record. Many of the courts you imagine were fixed were appointed by republicans and number by Trump himself. The spin they were in the tank for Biden is mindless and out of touch with reality. If the hard core GOP monsters who run Georgia could have hung a fig leaf on Trumps win to push it through they would have. He lost so bad even they could not justify the cheat. The idea they were in the tank for Biden is pretty soft brained. There was ZERO Evidence ever shown anywhere, in court, in the news, anywhere that validated the machines were fixed. When you make a claim without any evidence it is not considered valid. The more fantastic the claim the better the evidence you need. THEY HAD NONE and if they did they should have produced it out of court if no one would hear it in court. Sidney Powel is about to be sued for lying about Dominion, 1.5 billion dollars. If she has the evidence she has been promising she better produce it soon because that is the kind of pay out that eats into your savings. The voting machine spin is overt propaganda of no value. Sydney's only hope is that Kraken of hers finally hatches to prove her out. Personally, I am not expecting it to go well for her in court when she has to produce the evidence to defend herself and is not just spitting platitudes on partisan media sources.
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  408.  @dodioxoopey8843  No evidence, that is why the voting machine companies sued to stop the clowns from lying about it. This will now bear out as that evidence will be featured in these law suits if it exists. If they have info the accused liars like Sydney will be exonerated, I would not bet very much on it working out well for her. But it is your money. Just stay tuned as these impending cases should put your mind at rest. I would argue anyone that still spat this "trump won" garbage after state certification of the votes was attempting to undermine our democracy. I see them as entirely spineless for not standing up for our constitution against their party and that is worse than betraying a wanna be dictator who clearly hates it.
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  409. Trump can not be charged until the GOP senate who protects him is voted out. Be patient.
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  410.  @CelticSpiritsCoven  You love lies, you listen a man who lies to your face and you thank him for it. A trump cultist talking about anyone else being brainwashed is hilarious projection. You are dupe for he corrupt and you need to stop pretending you understand what is going on as you act as controlled opposition against yourself. Pretending Trump is any kind of clean is silly even as it well understood both the gop and the dnc are innately corrupt.
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  411.    Landslide? Broken memory much? He lost the popular vote to a stain like hillary when he was not overseeing riots in the streets, an economic collapse and a failed response to a global pandemic. 2016 was an election where he raged against corruption instead of personally personifying it. How does a guy who has his whole family working for him in the white house point at someone else for nepotism? You need to get your head out of your ass as the media you consume crushed it thin. you are not a rebel truth teller you are dupe to oligarchs that think you are stupid. You are not in contact with reality.
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  412.  @CelticSpiritsCoven  Actually the list of laws he has potentially broken is really pretty long for any elected official anywhere. Trump has serious legal problems you do not seem to know about. Trumps issues are much more defined than the anything he is accusing Biden of. Trump never gets around to saying what charge Biden should be arrested on. He is clearly breaking the emoluments clause to start with. Owning hotels frequented by foreign delegates that enrich him personally is a direct breach of the statute. He is currently in court on tax issues, there are additional legal issues with over and undervaluing property depending on who he was speaking with. His lawyer is in jail for a charge that he is co-conpseritior on. Joe may be bad (he is like the establishment lackeys of both parties are) but Trump is clusterfuck inside a fail hurricane. He clearly has his own legal issues and should not be throwing those stones from a paper thin glass house. I am an anti fascist pro law and order voter. I deeply dislike Biden and will fight him day one but Trump is a fail in every way Biden is and represents a cancer that has to go. I am not stuck on wedge issues like you are and see both candidates for exactly what they are.
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  413. They are not gate keeping them as hard. It really is the path forward.
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  414. Nonsense, she is a pale copy of Bernie who is the original.
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  415.  @ttystikkrocks1042  It most certainly does appear he is guilty of those crimes if you actually paid attention and did not take your synopses from right wing blogs.
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  416.  @MikeEnergy_  Recounts have ONLY been triggered in Georgia. Every court case brought by trump to court has been thrown out. There is no evidence at all presented to back his case. His presidency is dead, he is just too much of a wanna be dictator to admit it.
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  417. No democrat has openly supported communism! Most are neo liberal 90's Republicans including Biden. Get your head out of your ass.
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  418. There is nothing to talk about, your whataboutism is really really strong but is undermined by the fact you are comparing a Walmart being robbed with the other our seat of government being ransacked by a mob looking to execute the VP for "crimes". It is not the same thing sparky not to mention no one ever defended looters (especially a guy like Arnie) despite your desire to defend the criminals here.
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  419.  @lesmoore3638  The fascists really are the GOP. Biden is shit but he is a 90's republican not someone who openly muses about running the country after his term. I am very clear how Bernie was screwed and have no illusions what the DNC is. That being said they fail because they chase the GOP, they fail because they spit on the base and ignore them. The GOP is a hard fail on any policy you may have supported Bernie over and are the direct opposite of what he represents. The democrats called Bernie names and the media marginalized him, the GOP calls Biden the same names they called Bernie and call Bernie a hateful communist. Picking them because the DNC treated him poorly seems a very strange choice to me. Trump is acting fascist, that is a fact and if you care about democracy at all he needs to be defeated. Half the democratic base will still be with you to fight Biden if he wins. There may be no option for anyone to do anything if the failure orange man baby gets a second term to continue to wreck the country more.
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  420. Show me once where they cheered on the execution of cops. I am watching you do whataboutisims right now.
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  421.  @johnkesich8696  Even if everyone of those people voted green it would change nothing and Trump would win. The problem is as long as the DNC is controlled by corporations the concerns you have will not be addressed as they act as spoilers for progressive change that works for actual Americans and not just the donors. The GOP is a total loss with no principles at all.
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  422.  @johnkesich8696  These votes do not matter if the do not convert to power. They will have effectively ghettoized them in a party that never gains power which is perfectly acceptable to the donors. We need to win by getting in their face by proinying out that the 'moderate' dems are not moderate at all in their fiscal and foreign policy. Oh and they are overtly corrupt
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  423.  @johnkesich8696  Yes. I do. Especially as it stands. I think the effort of growing the green party is worthwhile but do not think we have the time to make it viable. With the establishment dems in place all the greens do is act as a spoiler handing power to the GOP which is arguably far worse than all but the ugliest corporate democrats. I say this because I have seen how having a 3rd progressive party, a corpratist right wing party and a corpratist 'left" wing party plays in the real world. Progressives do not get power and may get more lip service to good ideas but will still be facing the same issues. We need to fight like hell to take the party from the hands of the paid losers who hold it. I see no reason to abandon it to leave them with knives at our backs. They steal votes from the ignorant that are otherwise already ours if policy was only thing driving their politics. If we want progressives in power the DNC is a hard cap on it as long as corporatists control it.
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  424. In defending the idea Amy is a stain the law suits were so bad they could not even pretend they should be heard. She would have been up for a steal if they could at least put fig leaf on it like Bush vs Gore to hand the GOP a win.
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  425. The idea he can beat anyone is poorly focused. No one thinks this guy is a winner besides his wife and the sheep also thought hillary would win for sure.
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  426. Releasing public information about business's maxing out their donations is a public service. If these people do not want their names tied to trump they should not donate. We will vote with our dollars at their business and they have nothing to fear but bankruptcy for backing cancer.
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  427. He never was, he is a consummate liar who can read a room. Nothing more.
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  428. Que the ignorant tirades against socialism and authoritarianism against a democracy choosing a left leaning government. Corporate elites and their dupes hate democracy.
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  429. They seize the phone and lock the account. The phone is needed to get full access to the records in the cloud do to linking encryption on the device.
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  430.  @bfx20018f  A disaster for republicans springs to mind
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  431.  @HaveYouTriedGuillotines  They are not hate group, quit listening to overt liars. They are protesting a legitimate problem that has gone unanswered for ever. Calling them hate group is hyperbolic nonsense in service of the a status quo that is empowering our officials to murder citizens with no justice. I see the movement as a necessary one to address the issue but do not see a BLM party as doing anything but ensuring the GOP retains control with a minority of rabid voters in support of their brutal policy which does not serve anyone.
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  432. What color is the sky in the dream world you live in? News flash sparky, you can say anything on Twitter but when you go to court you need evidence. There is a reason almost every case trump has brought has been tossed out, the remainder do not change any significant number of votes. I suggest you get in a bath tub when you are ready to accept reality, you would not want to get tears all over the floor.
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  433. The establishment goons ripping each other up ... wait let me get the pop corn.
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  434. The establishment democrats are little better and did not even fight for normal people as they only bailed out wall street.
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  435.    We have guns too halfwit and the law. Do not imagine you intimidate anyone with that bullshit.
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  436. Anyone who is shocked by this realization should not be. They are literally paid to lose.
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  437. Look up the word illiterate, it does not mean what you think it does.
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  438. That should not slow us down. The losers in place could use replacing on policy reasons anyway.
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  439.  @marcoleone8189  For whom? For a shadowy group right wing billionaires who fund and own him. A brief list of some notables include: Charles Koch, Education Sec. Betsy DeVos and her family, Robert and Rebekah Mercer, Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner, prolific GOP megadonor Richard Uihlein, Home Depot cofounder Bernie Marcus, and Wyoming gubernatorial candidate Foster Freiss. You can not pretend to oppose totalitarians and support trump, to do so should be mutually exclusive! As it stands it s not clear you understand what the word means.
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  440.  John Proctor  Yes! Corrected.
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  441.  @marcoleone8189  The idea Biden who is a basically 90's republican is a tool of china is silly. Biden is a corporately owned tool like Trump is. Both the establishment democrats and the GOP are owned by many of the same forces.
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  442. You are pretty stupid, right?
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  443. Better than trump no matter how you cut it.
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  444.  @nunyabeeswax8485  If you say so conspiracy nut, half the GOP voters are now completely detached from reality and look like fact free loons to the entire planet. As I have noted in the past projection is the soup you clowns swim in. Your inability to detect the irony of your spin is really really funny.
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  445.  @nunyabeeswax8485  Anyone who uses the term "Demonrats" has that very concern much worse than I do. Just saying.
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  446. Is there no law this guy breaks that you people will not ignore? Trump and the republican party are the poster boys for corruption. Does not mean hillary and Biden are remotely close to good but pretending Trump and his cronies are any thing but criminals in suits at this point marks you as partisan or blind.
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  447.  @pseudonymy  Listen "idiot", then it would be beholden on him to prove that standard was met. He has not even tried. The fact is his own administration is deeply corrupt filled with lobbyists and industry insiders now (de)regulating their own industries. Pretending there is some critical national interests in this issue is idoicy. If if there was he has no business being personally involved because of its nature and should have passed to concern off to other agencies. His choices are clear violation of law. Biden is clearly crooked but it is not and Trumps roll to investigate and dig into his affairs using the power of his office. Ukraine is endemically corrupt. The idea that he is working for anyone but himself as he digs at a single thread of it that leads to a political rival is plain idoicy. You have to be brain dead to by that spin. I say throw the book a Biden but what trump did here is clearly illegal and you admonishing anyone to get an education is a joke as you defend corrupt liar because you are partisan freak show.
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  448.  Joey Duggar  This is not the same thing dummy.
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  449. You should not be calling them rapists if you expect their vote just saying ...
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  450. @skutch Blobaum If we do not take it the ""elite" will retain control of everything. I see no reason to give up a fight when we have them afraid. We have a chance here and I see your fatalism as playing into the hands of the status quo. It is exactly what the "elite" want you to think, they are consistently wrong about everything. Perhaps they are here too.
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  451.  @SwiftySanders  Not even kind of. That is nonsense.
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  452. Good, arrest them and put them all in prison so that kids are safer.
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  453. The dems have passed a stimulus, The gop needs to pick up the ball for once. They are the party of obstruction.
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  454. You do not need a microscope to see trumps criminality.
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  455. He is winning despite his policy not because of it.
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  456. The day off is more important than what the day is named.
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  457. Yes. He could.
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  458. He is my choice of the admin I wish to oppose next term.
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  459.  @michaelmcclure3383  Nonsense, the people who buy Trumps spin are the authoritarians. They are the ones who have always fought for a status quo even a broken one. They are the kind of people who cheer cops that beat others they dislike. They are shrinking in number as their bread and butter needs are not met. There is no such thing as a left wing Nazi, the people demanding justice are being attacked and the statues they oppose are of overt oppressors and traitors not hero's, no matter how you spin it. The line of people who stand beside statues of traitors and slavers is not as large as the Trump admin thinks they are. This is a silly empty wedge issue spin that spits hurts him with most people and does not mitigate his failures on the pandemic or the economy. Cops beating protesters and the media, shooting people in the back or crushing the life out of them with their knees on camera is not nearly as popular as you imagine it is. Being a law and order guy as the law is blatantly acting like thugs on camera is not the winning spin you imagine it is.
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  460.  @sonofnike2800  So stupid, ok you imagine the silent majority is pro civil war traitors, you imagine they are deeply invested in foreign slavers and jim crow flag waving. I suspect you are about to be surprised by how that turns out in real life.
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  461. NOT Trump, that is a good start.
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  462.  @sensualeye  Better than burn it down rob us more Trump. When your unashamed allies are the proud boys you are cancer that needs to go.
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  463. Neither did Obama by this standard. Trump did aid in the genocide in Yemen and did commit an act of war by drone striking a foreign general. I think those count personally.
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  464. Recently divorced. I looked too. He looks silly with his hand down his pants but this is a nothing burger politically. It is just kind fun Borat punked him.
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  465. He used to be for me, I see Trump edging him out as he denies reality and spits on our constitution and the rule of law.
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  466.  @wwomanofyeshua7777  You are hard core detached from reality. So I am not sure what to say to you. Delusional cultists are not a source of useful information. Slave to the "spirits of our ancestors", slave to a 1000 dead gods, slave to newly made ones, slave to king (at the behest of god), slave to corporate masters, slave to conformity, we have always been slaves. Pretending it was ever better is empty and ignorant.
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  467.  @wwomanofyeshua7777  You are slave to some nonsense, probably the local religion you were born into and now some kind of cult nonsense where you dredge up this bullshit about Satan. I am unconcerned about your predictions and if even true I will be fine. You on the other hand could use some real help and I would suggest you get some if I thought you would pay attention to a lost heathen like me that has your best interests at heart. Much like you claim to.
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  468.  @marklewen9384  Don't belly laugh in the middle of contradicting someone before you spit nonsense, it makes you look crazy. There was ZERO evidence of ballot harvesting, you have bought the spin of paid liars many of which are going to be sued into history for misrepresenting this election. States set their procedures, that is what the actual constitution says if you bother to look. Any claim about states not having the right to change procedures is not remotely unconstitutional as 60+ court cases have proved. You look deeply ignorant as you parrot the claims of the moron media you choose to follow. You are projecting a personally demonstrated failure onto me. You are the one who can not accept the election, I went through the same thing in 2016 and never fell out of the tree like you are. This partisan spin that demands a dictator because you prefer them is your problem alone. History will remember the trump cult as being deeply unamerican, just so you know.
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  469.  @marklewen9384  Why in a voting booth? Cite that passage in our constitution. In fact there has been a wide variation from your narrow view for a long time. The constituton grants states the litteral right to make thier own voting rules. You have been sold nonsense by the ignorant or liars.
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  470.  @marklewen9384  You have been LIED TO. The process put in place to change voting for this election was ENTIERLY LEGAL, despite what the simps you listen to say. This was validated in COURT over and over and over and over. You have bought into total nonsense and are advocating for a dictatorship. Trump lost, 60+ times, just stop it makes you look insane.
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  471.  @marklewen9384  You do not get to pick which votes count sparky, your numbers are ignorant spin and mean literally nothing. You hate democracy, own it. Why would an election where over half the country hated Trump not pull a record turn out? Your numbers are overt nonsense or do not mean what you think they do. Your president killed 200k + Americans, that failure is likely to drive more people to vote than standard. Might have helped him if he at least pretended to care. There are a 1000 reasons why we had more people voting this election including new records of people who voted by mail. Pretending that is not true is ignorant or dishonest. Which are you? Dude, stop loling at the end of your posts. It seriously makes you look insane.
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  472.  @marklewen9384  He was the leader that was in charge when they lied about masks. He picked the leader speaking to us and owns every failure. You are the NPC lemming who is shilling for a goof that has proved he does not care if you live or die. He misrepresented the virus to us after knew how deadly it was. It is hard to be lectured to about reality by a cultist.
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  473.  @danthemansmail  I do not think so, we can do what we can do. The GOP had the exact same situation last time. A known candidate challenged their choice and they lost because they are not popular. So it will go this time and the DNC has nothing to stop him. I totally reject your characterization of Bernie and his followers.
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  474. @skutch Blobaum He does not need billionaire backing. The fact is he has enough money from his donors to compete and money is not his problem this cycle, he is out-raising everyone. He did the right thing last time he got cheated. He fought for the better of the two choices and acted like the stand up guy he is. His fear of Donald being a terrible president was proven true. That he could put aside personal feelings for the greater good is not a weakness but a strength. I know some see his not acting petulant as a fail but his personal integrity that is still intact is one his greatest weapons against anyone he runs against with none.
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  475.  @danthemansmail  I know the playing field is tilted. I also know the establishment is weak when faced with an actual challenger and not just handful of hand picked sellouts. Assuming these guys are capable is betrayed by their record of winning elections they did not have complete control of. Even against Bernie they only won by 3% and they had a giant insurmountable head start running against a guy with zero name recognition. Neither is true this time. The fact they had to cheat last time and still barely won speaks to their competence. The times the democrats have done well in the last 20 years were when they ran as populists promising hope and change. When running as centrists they are consistent losers and handed over a 1000 state and federal seats to the GOP after Obama's first half term when he was outed as just another corpratist. Their ideas are unpopular, they are paid losers and are ripe to be taken over.
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  476.  @Ryan-lo1kg  The GOP is wholly and completely establishment. The DNC are the Washington generals to the GOP's Harlem Globe trotters of corruption. The DNC is less capable then even the wholly corrupt and fact free republicans are. At least the GOP win important elections and push their opponents to the right. The establishment democrats in their current form are paid to consistently lose.
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  477. I will be hopeful but will be verifying.
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  478. Please! No one is buying in.
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  479.  @monkeemash  this is a lie told by monsters who who are at best croney capitalists but often overtly fascist.
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  480.  Chris Crabb  If you say so, you must be a big fan of eating hunks of cancer.
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  481.  Chris Crabb  He is a moron who does not care if you live or die. That he makes you feel good is fine I suppose but he is overtly cancer and hates everything america is suppose to stand for. Trump does not value civility so I am trying to speak in a way that strikes home with his fans. Asking me to civil to that stain as he overtly does not value the idea is a bizarre request. I will wait til the dust settles and will not be the first to go get the trump endorsed vaccine he rushed through for political reasons. Go ahead white mouse, I am sure it will work out just fine.
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  482.  Chris Crabb  Why more arrests? How is Trump better on this front at all? Trump is talking about calling out the army on protesters, how could Biden be worse? The rich have never paid lower taxes in history while never being as rich. The rich assholes do not keep us going, they close or outsource any business that costs them a nickle. It is working Americans that keep us going not the uber rich who have gamed the system to steal from the middle class. The idea the Biden or Harris are Chinese plants is as stupid as talking about Trump as owned by Putin. It is equally brain dead, you are just acting like the assholes you pretend to oppose. Trump will kill people rushing a vaccine, I do not trust him to make a sound judgment when the lives of people he does not know are on the line and there is any benefit for him.
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  483. Thos is the kindn of dishonest framing one expects from the trump campaign, hot a news org. Shame on you!
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  484. mostly propaganda to push a status quo message who own both the red and blue pundits.
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  485. One of many
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  486. The country is poverty now because of capitalism. Central America is a shadow of what it could have been without being drained dry the capitalist multinationals that exploited them while giving almost nothing back for decades while they paid off a tiny elite to hold power. As you ignore the tyranny of right wing dictators to misrepresent the will of democratically elected governments your spin falls flat. Your desire to bow down to before power is showing.
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  487. His outrage is very selective and is outright blind in a few key ways.
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  488. What I am ashamed of is the fact the cons in every respect even in the US hate free speech even more, they are literally banning books and anything else they can as we speak. Never trust anything these cry baby idiots say, they are the same a holes who want to ban media they and books they dislike. This is more dishonest posturing about free speech from goofs who loath any speech but their own. Hard take them seriously.
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  489.  @DroomSpook More likely to pick up the entire conservative party, am sure they want docile followers and losers who love authoritarian rule, not thinkers.
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  490.  @edwardroh89  I chose Biden as the one I wish to oppose. Much of his base is actually anti war while the gop base does not care about anything they are not told to by their masters. Lothaing the human stain that is Trump is not the same as blanket support for establishment shills in the DNC. They are just better because their voters are better on the issues. Bidens team can be bent or broken to good policy while no one in the gop can be as their base hates that.
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  491. It is about electing them and then removing them come next primary. The DNC is rotten but only because they follow the GOP which has no merit in anti corruption at all.
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  492. Believe anything but fox news and it is clear the Russians tried to collude.
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  493. Maybe they are investigating elected officials first? Or maybe she was not so stupid as to save her criminal transaction in the icloud.
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  494. No one said he was going to, so safe bet.
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  495. I guess they can but there is no reason to expect they will. Trump should have definitively proven this. The idea that one of these self important blowhards are going to be more resilient to establishment demands of a system that created their massive wealth is a tough outsider pill to swallow from people who are by definition insiders. Bernie has proven he can, why even consider anyone else.
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  496. Sure .. it is deeply concerning. Not sure how it changes anything for the average citizen or what they should do though.
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  497. He is basically a boomer not they want him.
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  498. This is brutal .. Whoppi is trying to give Trump another term.
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  499. If that is your take away, get a walking helmet. It seems you can not afford another head injury.
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  500.  @ray2895  Hilarious, hammer it home
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  501. lol, I have thought that more than once,
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  502. "Desantis is a good source of reliable information on covid" - Coughing MAGA Npc's
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  503. In touch, they are dishonest clowns who misrepresent every speech issue while standing with monsters that literally fight to ban books because of their feels.
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  504. You are a halfwit.
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  505. Correction 9 points.
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  506. @Edit D By all means ignore the polls out if Georgia. Trump neck and neck with Biden is a good thing as long as you watch only fox i suppose.
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  507.  @moxavenger  Not sure how this changes they are neck and neck in a deep red state. Pretend the shocking stat is good then I guess.
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  508.  @moxavenger  He is the incumbent overseeing a pandemic and a collapse of the economy. Without that back drop I would expect him to crush Biden, but given what is going on incumbency does him no favors. We shall indeed see.
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  509.  @moxavenger  One does not have to count on msm to come to that conclusion. In fact the ONLY way you think we did ok is if you consume a single brand of self serving nonsene unique to our country. Before you accuse anyone of bias try not to be spouting overtly narrow partisan nonsene from a specific bubble yourself. Our deaths per capita number is outrageous and no amount of hand waving about partisan partial travel bans that changed nothing makes it go away. His total lack of suppoert for the American workers and the fact he downplayed what he knew was a leathal virus is eternally damning. By any external review not painted to make your man baby hero look good our response was garbage. By any non partisan estimation the response was a fail, that is how the whole word outside the fox audiance sees it.
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  510. The corruption was on full display. The establishment continues to look weak.
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  511.  @mr.thomas8091  they should have picked someone better. Until we rip a party from the hands of one our two sellout choices we need to choose the flavour of corruption we wish to oppose. Trump is unacceptable and so i choose to push Biden to push to change day one and get ready to primary him year four.
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  512. Apparently neither party is, nice to know that one side cares enough to crush them out of power.
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  513.  @kaigelewis9782  The GOP are innately the worst, these dems primarily suck because they chase the same donor cash that innately and completely corrupts republicans.
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  514. Pete you fail when you continue the status quo and suck up to the very donors who have pushed the party right and away from the base. We are drawing a hard line in the sane and if you want to support corruption the GOP needs to be your place as the Democratic party can no longer afford to lose.
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  515. How much should anyone that was employed as Trump flunky expect to be employed democratic admin? No one in power is advocating to imprison anyone who is not committing a crime. Anyone that publicly subverted reality to act as a trump sycophant should be remembered and consistently reminded of thier abject failures. I could see how that resume item might undermine ones employability options as a public official unless you are looking for a toady who does not value our democracy.
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  516. The tyrannical government we have been hearing about is here and the right wingers of course bow before it.
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  517.  @ch33seweasel42 Biden voters are not moderate, they are not paying attention and are just voting for the name they know.
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  518. Every single only line commentator I have seen both mentioned it and discussed it. Just saying
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  519. She was just given whistle blower status from the courts, kinda undermines your smearing DeSantis talking points and dismissal. Everyone knows the republican governor of Florida has no reason to lie about covid numbers, right? Saagar, If you actually buy that you are far less clever than I ever gave your credit for.
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  520. @lol This is not remotely true and is identify nonsense drummed up to redirect your poorly focused but genuine anger at a system you correctly sense is broken. You are just blaming the wrong people and are punching down instead of looking up. No one of note hates white people it is a lie made to make you feel better while solving nothing.
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  521. @lol This spin is silly and does not make a lick of sense. The idea makes you look completely out of touch with reality. I personally dislike all overt bigots no matter their skin tone and do not choose to stand beside any of them. When you have to be this hyperbolic and bizarre to oppose another group you dislike your side is out of actual arguments. The spin makes you look simple or like a liar. On value it amounts to distinction without a difference. Opposing bigotry is laudable, making up imaginary enemies is delusional.
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  522. Both have to happen.
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  523. Of course they are. They are seeking a market and adapting to it. They have no incentive that matters besides profit. They are Bowing to China for dollars.
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  524. We need to tear the party from their incompetent hands.
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  525. Bernie's stance on open borders has been consistant and logical. Early in this very campain he call out the idea of open borders as silly just as he did in this piece. Any assertion he is favour open borders is empty or dishonest..
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  526. No one says it is a republican thing, this is a corrupt leader thing,. The only way we will clean up the swamp is to stop electing people who are bought by billionaires before they get there. No one should be surprised these clowns are crooked, they sell us out to get elected 95% of the time.
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  527.  @Ray-cn1yn  The entire corrupt system that is bought and paid for by lobbyists and has turned our system into a clear example of crony capitalism. The fact is our leaders are beholden to the highest bidder. When that is the most important criteria they need to get elected it should not be surprising that these losers are greedy and unscrupulous as well.
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  528. Are we a corpritocracy? That is like asking if water is wet?
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  529. That is what Rudy's bombshell you describe has done, back fire. People already heard that story and dismissed it as nonsense. Everyone but those lost in specific brand of fact free bubble.
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  530. You could not make this up, it shocks me anyone votes for these assholes.
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  531. They were going to ban him on the 20th anyway.
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  532.  @WAAAAAAGH  No but you would not ask a baker what the best cut of beef is. This is a legal matter and public option has far less value than an expert opinion because one is trained and one is not. Go ahead and get your doctor to fix your car because he has an out side point view point, see how that works out for you. Better yet if you are ever in legal trouble find some random yahoo who says things you like to defend you in court.
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  533.  @WAAAAAAGH  Well asking the general public will gauge nothing but who is winning a propaganda war. In the matters of law we should have a higher standard. I do not see how this poll adds anything.
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  534.  @WAAAAAAGH  Fair enough. I still see little value in these polls besides muddying the waters further.
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  535. The sooner this orange stain is gone the better.
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  536. By this standard he also belongs with the gop war mongers who have never seen a war they ro not like. That the MIC has it's hooks in the establishment dems too does not make both parties the same.
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  537. I do not agree we should be allowing these clowns to fight over taking away our rights. The GOP's focus on wedge issues are always in taking things or limiting access. Never about inclusiveness or expanding them. I want these clowns dealing with economic issues and growing the country not pandering to a ever more radical and out of touch base to cover for the fact they are owned by the highest bidder economically.
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  538. We believe our eyes buddy. You are sad if you buy more of Rudy's obvious bullshit.
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  539. Been extra hard to watch political news for the last week, this is in spite of it being a hard core shit show before.
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  540. I see no reason why he would not float it, if Biden was going to offer a olive branch to half his base this would be a very meaningful one. Sadly, I am not holding my breath.
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  541. Our leaders are wholly owned by those interests and as long as we do not punish the leadership at the ballot box the corruption and cronyism will continue.
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  542. No one expect you to. She is not running anymore so that should make you happy.
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  543.  @counterflow5719  Not unfit, just deeply problematic. That being said she was always better than the man baby. He won because she arrogantly did not campaign in the rust belt, that handed the win to Trump.
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  544.  @flamos44  Yes, but those people have changed nothing as they just got in. The idea without anyone confirmed the admin is all his now is not well thought out. She can be no worse than Mnuchin under Trump. They may be cut from the same cloth but have a different constituency holding their leash. They are both corrupt but doing an empty false equivancy has no value.
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  545.  @jlsudberry5862  No but the fact is the Biden admin has not even confirmed anyone so it is hard to pretend they have a firm handle on all control yet. Give it a month and you will have more clearance.
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  546.  Jiminy Cricket  But she has not taken the reigns yet, laying this debacle at Biden's feet is silly.
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  547. Start polishing up the Darwin awards.
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  548. You are a dope
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  549. And it can go into the annals of failed business's like Trump Airlines, Trump University, Trump Steaks, etc, etc. You want to pour your money down the drain, lend it to trump.
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  550. Seeing a lot of uncritical promotion of this stains nonsense with no push back from this channel. Pretty disgusting
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  551. The argument that democratic voters are centrist is baseless. The fact is they are not republicans so they will often vote for a "centrist" or corporate candidate with a D after their name over a republican if they have to but are only excited and are turned out by populists who promise a bold vision. That is how you win and the idea Biden or any centrist is the way to go because hillary barely won the popular vote in a low turn out election is deeply ignorant or dishonest spin.
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  552. If the establsihmemt is democrats are not woke they are just 90'srepublicans when it comes to economic votes.
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  553.  @nopejhonson958  It was made of good works and a brief record of doing good things. The fact it was made of sturdy stuff is the reason it lasted even with big cracks in it until she smashed it off entirely this primary.
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  554. Why not, I say any of these assholes who looks crooked should get full investigations. Now cheer the fact this Burr is under the microscope, he pretty clearly deserves it.
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  555.  @intense5335  There is zero proof for that or I would be as concerned as you are. The fact is if there is any it should be in court NOW and it is NOT. You are drinking poison cool aid and it makes you look silly when you talk in pubic.
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  556.  @intense5335  The Kraken in this case is a myth. To date not one court case out of 20 has any chance of making it to the supreme court. The one that has can not overturn any significant results. This is done, it is all over but Trumps public break down which has already started if you check out his twitter feed.
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  557.  @intense5335  told ya!
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  558.  @intense5335  If true he really should shown that info, as it stands the fact he has not betrays the truth he does not have ANY evidence at all. If he had we would have seen it in court already. The time to present it has come and gone, a first year law student knows it should have been done BEFORE CERTIFICATION of all the challenged states. The fact he has not done so means there is none. He is done, Please remember I told you so you should not be even kind of surprised when Biden is sworn in. The idea Trump won California or New York is hilarious, no one sane thinks Trump won let alone by a landslide. He is clearly hated by half the country at least. OAN are overt liars, a joke of a caliber worse then even the overt establishment owned shills at CNN, MSNBC or FOX. You just happen to like their fictional bullshit. Perhaps this whole event will open your eyes to what they really are.
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  559.  @intense5335  If he had evidence he would have used it in court in Pennsylvania in his effort to delay certification, he has none. Showing some computers means absolutely nothing. Please stop quoting OAN, they are a joke and referring to them makes you look silly.
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  560.  @intense5335  Found that krakin yet? Must be tiny one to stay hidden so long.
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  561. She was not running when those people were in power. Calling to marginalize losers who empowered trumps overt failures seems pretty reasonable to me. The fact is he was a total failure and if nothing else his attempt to subvert democracy should be kept in front of mind when looking at his staff. The GOP is entirely polarized, pretending they are not changes nothing.
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  562. Lay that failure at the feet of the snake!
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  563. And she could not win, there is that!
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  564. @Halber Mensch That this election was normal is not the assertion. It does not have to be "normal" to be entirely valid. An claim it was rigged and fraud was committed is a assertion that requires evidence that the trump campaign has refused to supply to courts. You can lie on TV but not to a judge without it blowing back on you hard. On TV they talk about massive fraud in court they say expressly they are not accusing fraud. You are being lied to and need to stick your head out of the bubble you are clearly trapped in. Dude it is you who is flailing, your out of date talking points make no sense in context where even if trump got all the uncertified states already declared for Biden he would still lose.
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  565. They will not let that get in the way of spitting Florida Republican misinformation. We all know the executive had no reason to lie, right?
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  566. What does that even mean? Do you know what that means? How are the republicans under a cancer like trump remotely better?
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  567.  @buffalohump2569  you can tell she is lying because her lips move.
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  568. Rand is spitting spin he knows will confuse his base but has NO MERIT outside some unproven conspiracy nonsense. That he can cram woo-han into a sentence with virus does not mean his spin makes sense or has ANY validation. The speculation with nothing backing it up besides unverified rumours has no place in a hearing like this and is political in nature rather than being attached to any real concerns. Rand is a deeply partisan liar, anyone that takes this proven stains spin on empty conspiracy nonsense as gospel is buying fake hype.
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  569. The numbers reported do not include flu, anything not overtly tested as Covid is not included in the numbers. That means many people who died in old age homes where they could not get testing are not included in our Covid death counts. It is very clear we are greatly under reporting the number of deaths. On the comparison Covid is over 10 times more likely to kill you than the flu, if the flu kills 1 person out of a hundred who get it Covid kills 10.
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  570.  @mcoo465  That Trump lost is the reason he should concede, you people do not understand how numbers work or what a hypocrite is. Sad really, Buh bye.
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  571.  @aiba6540  Only to partisans who do not care she was abdicating her actual responsibility for the last week putting American more lives in danger.
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  572.  @TheShylok Comparing Trumps nonsense to Bush via Gore is dishonest or deeply ignorant. That election was close, this one is not. She was subverting democracy not protecting it, she was acting like a partisan stain and it will remembered as such. Have someone read a book for you as it clearly not your thing.
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  573. Atlas is a Trump stooge, he is a yes man mouth piece for a clown who has proved he is unfit to lead in this crisis.
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  574. You are a useless sell out Joe!
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  575. This is the picture whining weakness.
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  576. As opposed to the GOP, where you live?
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  577. Lol, he really is.
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  578. Be good if they started! Would be nice to not have one set of rules for rich assholes and another for everyone else.
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  579. Always look at what the donors want when it comes down to any establishment votes. That drives the political winds in Washington not principle or service to electorate.
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  580. Paid zero, the lower corporate tax rate trump put in insured it.
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  581.  @twoshedsjohnson8540  Trump lowered corporate tax rates for them. At a flat rate of 21% they paid nothing, in 2016 they paid 1.1 Billion in taxes. It was literally Trumps tax cuts that saw them pay zero taxes.
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  582. Biden is still better than Trump in every single way that matters. Bernie voters should picking him as the President they will oppose.
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  583.  @ashfield1425  I am not expecting big change from Biden but there is zero chance of more wars with the democrats than with Trump who regularly has committed acts of war even though the other side has not responded. No one is should be allowed to forget Trump put Bolton is his cabinet busting your silly spin wide open. The tax increases proposed by Biden only affect only the wealthy despite Trumps consistent self serving lies. Biden has a hundred problems but the tax bull shit is not one of them. Our system is built by the donors so they can avoid taxes and that will be true under Trump or Biden so the issue is moot. Pretending Bernie sold his soul is silly. His support for one of two choices one of which is leaning hard fascist is not a fail. Saying he sold out is stupid spin of zero value to anyone except Trump lackeys looking to make themselves feel better. Trump has EVERY SINGLE PROBLEM Biden does in spades! There no issue he is remotely better on with the understanding that is a very very low bar.
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  584. Avoid contact with the public.
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  585. @Sophie is Awesome For a few weeks, covid zero seems to be a pretty good strategy that is working for Australia. But the government has to be willing to bail out the people giving the option to stay home and not just billionaires like last time for it to work.
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  586.  @deafforever3534  Only tyrannical if thy hang us out to dry on our own like last time. You spit the current corprlerate narrative not me. The spin of asshole's who were bailed out while you got pocket change.
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  587. Bringing up Venezuela's economy's should engender shame in the right if they were not ignorant hypocrites.
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  588.  @anthonytwohill9726  I am not voting against anything. I am voting for who I choose to oppose. I refuse to hand the power of that choice to anyone else, this is not an election cycle I see we can afford to empower the GOP in anyway in my state. I encourage everyone to vote their conscience and understand why you can not hold your nose and vote for a brand of cancer. But this is not 2016 for me and the steaks of allowing trump to win again without me weighing in are too high personally.
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  589. ​ @anthonytwohill9726  If you say so I see choosing who I want to fight as an affirmative choice rather than one based on rejection or a lessor evil. It is tactical not emotional.
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  590.  @anthonytwohill9726  No you are missing my point. I have chosen one of two people because I want one to be my opposition over the other. If you have two opponents and you pick one because you imagine you can more easily best him and end up on top that is not innately a rejection of the other option. The key element in that choice is not based on rejection but picking one of two. You can say that how I choose does not amount to difference from a rejection trump. But from my perspective choosing something based on a tactical advantage does not mean the choice is built on rejection any more any other choice you make between two things. Peace to you too, be safe.
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  591.  Cee Sheen  Lol, good luck with that.
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  592. Can't get any worse than what trump has done. We are talking about a clown who put his useless children in his administration.
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  593. You are in a fever dream, try not to get your socks wet when you stand up. Standing in a pool of tears makes you look sad.
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  594. How so?
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  595.  @anabolic8441  How will you be better off?
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  596.  @reykumari9373  No. I would if she started lying about her "allies" though. Warren falls apart because of her own bizarre choices that only help the Hillary wing. She pulled the mask back in 2016 in her lack of support for Bernie, she has ripped it off this cycle. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
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  597.  Nob the Knave  That is very clear.
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  598.  lefty gomez  She did not vote trump, come on. You can not like her but pretending she is pro trump is counterfactual.
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  599. The idea Sanders voters are poised to stay home is not so much a threat but a statement of fact.
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  600.  @MEANMUGRACING  Why? Can you tell me why?
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  601. You are an idiot, the people who follow your advice will overflow the hospitals with the the hapless victims they infect. Even if you are lucky enough to not contribute to the burden on our health care system yourself it is clear you are part of the problem. Stop talking, you are removing all doubt that you are a moron.
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  602. @MikeN Ike let's find out. That would be a great problem to have.
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  603. Establishment democrats are barely different from 90's republicans with some modern social policy lips service piled on top.
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  604. There is not enough outstating ballots to change this election. Catch up as you are buying the fake news at this point.
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  605. Prank as part of a movie. It is what he Sacha Baron Cohen does to celebrities he tricks onto his show. Not the first time he has dome something like this to a prominent leader and will not be the last.
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  606. The gop has not been and still is not interested in governing. They are the party of obstuction and regression even when in power.
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  607.  @achillessays  it implies you do.
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  608.  @lancethumel9277  BLM and statue destruction were not necessary related, even if they were I am not sure all statue destruction was bad. What I really take from your post is you have no idea what a Marxist is. The only link Antifa has to the democrats is they both stand against Nazi's. Other than that Antifa is a leaderless, member-less, spokesmen-less group that has no support in the democratic party period. Antifa are a bunch leaderless kids that fight with Nazi's using their own tactics. They have no power and that you imagine they are any kind of threat speaks to the insular ignorant bubble you exist in. I had no problem with Americans tearing down the statues of traitors and never will. As to statues of others who may or may not have done problematic things tearing them down my be wrong or right on case by case basis but is in no way "Marxist" You seem like a silly talking point machine and your clownish support of overt propaganda not to mention the use of words you do not understand mark you as likely TFG.
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  609.  @achillessays  Actually it is a fair assumption about you in this format. The fact is I criticize Joe too, he is a tool. That does not change my assessment.
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  610.  @lancethumel9277  When you pretend the democrats are "communist" you are basically saying you are clueless. The democrats have problems, they are chasing the same corruption fail the GOP has a lock on.
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  611.  @mariabykofsky4502  Why go back 40 years when trump is blowing white supremacists today? As bad as Joe might be Trump is far worse in every way that matters. This is a super weak attack, just saying.
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  612. This needs to be spread far and wide!!!!!
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  613.  @ugbc3276  It has stuck. That you do not know it marks you as in a fact free bubble. I am not sure what you think racism is. Trump is clearly racist and your disike of liberals gives you license to ignore it. The right is deeply and innately tribal in a way the left is simply not. You have been fed a diet of wedge issue bullshit and overt lies on behalf of a group of bigots who are actively hostile to your own community. You mischacterization of the left is transparently dishonest media spin on behalf of corruption.
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  614.  @warewolven  Even if true it does not change the fact Trump brazenly breaks the emoiluments clause daily and put his do nothing no experience children in places of power where they took 100's of millions some of which are from forign powers while they were in employment of the state.
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  615.  @justthomas2488  please cite the false information i shared. To date I have shared my considered opinion on trump. Nothing I have said is counter factual despite the fact you do not it. Being wrong and you objecting to it are not the.same.thing unless you can.back.up your view point effectively. You can not.
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  616. Who over 50% voted for Biden.
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  617.  IMPEACH BIDEN  Most of them are assholes or just love right wing neo cons stirring up war and hate for profit, it amounts to a distinction without a difference.
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  618.  @chieflouie2821  They all get away with It, they key difference between them is one has a base who actually sees the problem and does not overtly ignore it.
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  619. At this point I do not expect Warren to do anything of the kind, I could see her dreaming of a Bloomberg VP spot regardless of the how virulent cancer she would be backing is.
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  620.  @MrBruh-yb9qi  You aer the clowns with tear tacks on your face. Being triggered by protest of greedy momsters robbing you WEAK and soft minded.
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  621. It makes sense to see sheep storm in but stay mostly inside the ropes.
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  622.  @wavvy87oww  Ectara, Ectara
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  623.  @motess5304  Whatever, he started the same number of "wars" Obama did by your own standard. No new wars were declared under that presidency. See how weak that is?
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  624.  @Ravi9A  Not a 'war' in Serbia. That was no more a declared war than our refueling of planes aiding the Saudis to bomb hospitals and schools.
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  625.  @Ravi9A  Obama, Clinton did not either by your standard. It is silly spin.
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  626.  @johnn.2017  We agree they are fails too. I know who the corporate dems are. That being said pretending the gop is anything but pro war is ignorant. The dems are bad but arguing they are worse than Trump's gop is silly.
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  627.  @nonstickmeat  the fact he brought that monster in disqualifies him in my book. I know what Bolton is despite the medias spin. The entire gop is pack of psycho war freaks owned by the Mic. Biden's and his cronies are only bad on this issue because they chase the same donors the gop owns. The anti war pro gop spin is base ignorant nonsense.
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  628. @soul seekerhe escalated everything and stopped nothing. Expanding record drone strikes is not de-escalation and hitting Russian military assets and foreign leadership are literal undeclared acts of war. There is no way trump was good on this issue. None.
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  629. @soul seeker No he did not. He shuffled them around. We are spending more money now and have more boots on the ground on foreign soil than any time in the last decade. By no standard has he scaled back our war machine. In fact he expanded it. You may like this but you do not get to pretend he is anti war. It is the exactly the opposite.
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  630. @soul seeker My point is pretending Trump is anti war or better than the dems on this issue is silly. He is a member of the GOP who never saw a war they did not like. They are the party of Iraq and Afghanistan who has been hungry to start a war in Iran for decades. Trump ran on being better than Hillary but after getting in office has proved to be just as war centric as any GOP who has ever held the office even as he mouths anti war platitudes everyone should now laugh at. If at this point if you need more data to show the GOP are war mongers I am not sure anything I share will change your mind. Can you prove he brought home lots of troops? It should be easy. The fact is he did not, he expanded our military foot print in to new places we never had boots on the ground before. He did increase our military budget by over 100 billion, what did he spend that on pop guns? He increased already record drone strikes which are undeclared acts of war still not war. He assassinated foreign leaders on foreign soil, is that an act of peace? He blew up Russian fighter jets while punishing another country, does that make war more likely or less? Is that the act of a pro peace president? Obama did not start any new wars by your silly standard either. So by your spin because Obama did not do any of the things above and had less drone strikes than Trump so he was a better pro peace president? The fact is Trump escalated what Obama did. He is more a pro war president than Barry was, if you cede that truth I will let you wallow in your delusion un-challenged because at least you will be consistent.
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  631. @soul seeker Likewise, show how Trump deescalated anything. I have gone on and on about what he has done and all you have is nuh uh .. prove it. The GOP are known war mongers, the burden is on you to show they are not.
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  632.  @Incessuserro  Yep, participating in a genocide is hardly anti war.
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  633. @soul seeker I HAVE, that you are ignoring what I am saying changes nothing. By any standard other than GB or an actual war time president Trump has not deescalated anything. It is beholden on you who thinks the guy who has exploded military spending to record levels while stepping up drone strikes everywhere well past Obama's record numbers is a peacenik has to show it. NOT ME. The GOP is the party of war and if you are going to assert it is not then you will have to do more than just make empty claims while dismissing mine with a wave of your hand. You have not. You do not value any idea that does not meet your preconceived narrative, there is nothing I can share that will change your mind. You have not even tried to make an argument.
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  634. @soul seeker He empowered and escalated violence of the protests instead of calming things down. He has never been pro peaceful protest unless it is right wingers are carrying guns around demanding to go to work in a full pandemic instead of support from a do nothing government. Your spin is made an lie as he sent his goons after peaceful protesters in front of the white house with gas and beatings. You apparently live in different universe than the rest of us.
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  635. @soul seeker Silly, your bias is pretty clear too as you spit the establishment line like it is the only perspective. The idea people protested to make him look bad is empty nonsense that ignores why they were protesting on purpose. The fact is Trump attacked peaceful protesters in front of the white house for a photo opp and ignoring that truth does not make it go away. I have no idea why you think he supports peaceful protest, that is not his record. Demanding people stop protest is not a power the president has. He never should have it in a free country.
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  636.  @GETMURPHED  By that standard everyone but actual war president's pass. It should be the VERY lowest standard.
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  637.  @GETMURPHED .He is the first non politican elected. Not too impressive a feat to be first of something everyone else does. Not to me anyway.
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  638. Flattening the curve means that we will be able to treat everyone who gets it. Not flattening the curb means picking and choosing who lives and dies do a lack of beds. It was never meant to be a cure but a way of controlling how many people get infected at once.
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  639. Not the same thing.
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  640. You have no idea what you are talking about, they took economic damage anyway and lost a huge number of people. They are no more done with covid than we are.
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  641.  @zebratangozebra  They had shockingly high per capita deaths. you need to look at the numbers closer and away from right wing sources to get that information. Their deaths were nothing to crow about. The idea they did nothing is not well founded either. Extensive contact tracing, massive testing and a focus on social distancing was enacted much more effectively than it was here and that is the root of their any success you can point to. We twist in the wind because all or our measures were half ass and poorly enacted.
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  642. It is just going to sell lots of views for Sacha's movie. Nothing else will come of it.
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  643.  @didntwantahandle  Yep if my grandparents were public stains who needed to be punked.
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  644. This time it is going to be right wing snowflakes bathing in tears. I can't wait.
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  645. Very sadly true, in truth they are paid to lose. There is no other reason for them not to embrace the huge majorities they run from.
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  646.  @clintholmes2061  Bloomburg is a joke, it does not matter what he fears as he is dead in the water before he starts. We are in accord. Bernie 2020
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  647.  @clintholmes2061  The threat is not from Tulsi, the fact is she will sap some small amount of his support but do not expect her to be that big of a factor once the ball starts rolling. She is a bigger danger to neo liberal "centrists" and people with voting issues like Warren out on that stage than she is to Bernie as Kamala can testify.
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  648. It will fail like all his other business have.
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  649.  @phantomzxro1  it is the monster fox created.
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  650. It does not surprise me at all progressives performed better. It is the path to take the party from them and as far as I can see it is not a matter of if but when. They are the future of the democratic party.
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  651. Go ahead and defend a corrupt loser because he has a R after his name. I am convinced the right only likes a very selective application of law and order. He is clearly a criminal but I guess one can get used ot looking away from crimes they do not want to see. The right will never be able to call itself the party of law and order again.
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  652. No one said china right before.
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  653. Or just make it up himself as he has no problem lying.
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  654. In the pockets of the assholes who collected the 2 trillion dollars the government handed to corporations.
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  655.  @qjtvaddict  Not going to happen, the gop is not on the rise.
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  656.  @JH-D4075  West is not winning a plurality of anything.
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  657. It has not lost meaning, the GOP now counts on it as strategy is why you are trying to dismiss the concept.
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  658. Biden is Hillary 2 .. he is a recipe to lose again! He is not electable even kind of and has every weakness hillary did. Bernie's key is he is bringing out new voters that have given up and bringing a lot of former old time establishment voters along. Anyone who does any analysis can see how weak Joe is. The more anyone looks the less they will like him. That will be a problem for him as the primary starts up and eyes are on every contest. Go back and look, did hillary get stronger or weaker? Biden has no giant head start to lose at all.
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  659.  @lrwado8150  If more people filtered their views through the lens of how corruption effects our policy we would be way better off. Still have not listed any contradictions by the way.
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  660. I am really really glad Trump did not win any kind of landslide, stopping a man baby wanna be fascist is worth the conflict of doing so.
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  661. Should be apprehensive about both, the dems are still the lessor cancer even as we are forced to drag them kicking and screaming away from the status quo and donors.
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  662. If you are trump voter they are right..
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  663. I see this as empowering the GOP, little more.
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  664. I usually agree with glen but he is a bit of a purist. Even if Twitter was regulated as a public utility Trump's actions would violate any TOS that applies a "you can not yell fire in a crowded theater" standard of free speech.
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  665. Those who are anti illagal jailing of citizens unite, why do you want anyone to have that power? Your heart is dead if it does not bleed for this
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  666. Time to go to their hidey holes and take our resources back.
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  667.  @jennifers5930  She ONLY has a path because of Bernie. Her main claim to fame is she supported him and ran as a Bernie like candidate at the start. I once liked her but since she backed off medicare for all and then sat on Rubin's show and let him lie about the rest of the democratic candidates being for open borders as she nodded she totally lost me. She is pro banning of BDS and argues on behalf of the failed war on terror. She is not tough on Israel at all and would not put any conditions on continuing to dump billions of our tax dollars there. She is not better than Bernie on foreign policy at all unless you are a republican. I am not. She is young and has time to pivot again in a future election. She is little more than a distraction this primary and may have legs in another but this cycle is all Bernie.
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  668.  @jennifers5930  No one holds her military record against her. It is the ever more abhorrent spin she has embraced since running for president that disqualifies her. She needs to figure out she is not running in the republican primary.
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  669.  @jennifers5930  This is not a 6 year old's soccer game where everyone is a winner. This is an election and if we can not evaluate faults of each candidate what criteria do you propose we use? I liked Tulsi, especially as she joined the race. Things she has said with her own mouth have down graded her since it started. Pointing out those facts should not hurt my cause at all and if it does I question the criteria used by those who are put out by them. I am not bashing her, I am spelling out why she is not my choice.
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  670. They should be paying a lot more than 5% on profits earned, they are paying NOTHING now.
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  671. Worse than empathy is bad for politics rant?
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  672. If calling out your leadership when they betray your ideals is not helpful then what is the option? Do nothing? We have plenty of democrats who do that already and none are considered part of the solution either.
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  673. It is dangerous, it kills 10 times more readily than the flu does and often leaves permanent lung damage even if you live. It is deadly to some but it's real danger is how easy it is to get and spread, it makes it a pervasive danger to people who face a broad heath issues which are not otherwise deadly or to the 1/3 of the people who were young and healthy but still died. The high percentage of people needing care to survive it makes it a deeply problematic virus for medical systems to support on a full outbreak which is inevitable unless it is checked by social distancing which only slows it down enough to allow us to care for the cases needing help.
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  674. These clowns attacking any messenger who says things they do not like while ignoring the root issues is the reason Biden won and why he will lose to trump. The blind support for terrible candidates is the problem, not fairly vetting them is the problem, being partisan freak shows is why they will lose.
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  675.  Robin Banks  Sad and weak and stupid is no way to go through life, I am no kind of sheep but am not an ignorant contrarian who hates data either. Your spin is both empty and deeply mindless. Run away little sheep, go to your safe space.
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  676. Is true, they let Manafort out to serve the rest of his 7 year sentence at home.
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  677. Not just paid, but anyone not tested as having it who dies is ignored. That could mean they are skipping 10's of thousands of deaths do a lack of testing even if no one pays them.
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  678.  @Vanderearden  I will fight to see we get non owned leader in place in the presidential primary. Win or lose I am not bowing to the idea these corporate suckups are our only option despite what the media keeps screaming. Despite her many issues Kamala would still be better than anyone the GOP will put up. The GOP has been shown to be universally war hawks and overt crony capitalists who do not even pretend otherwise. The corporate dems fail because they are like them as they are owned by the same assholes. The establishment dems are the Washington Generals to the GOP's Harlem Globe Trotters of corruption. They are paid to lose as they spit on their base for donor dollars while the GOP panders to theirs with empty wedge issues. Neither of them actually work for voters. In voting Biden I am choosing who I wish to oppose, not someone I think will do a good job. I turn my eyes to more current races and those in the future. I will be active in the next primary as well as my senate, congressional, local and state elections which need a new focus to replacing the corporate tools in place now.
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  679.  @MarcDeBenedetto  I would argue it was Hillary who broke the wheel and exposed the establishment democrats as who they are. The genie is not going back in the box and there is no going back to normal where democratic voters turn their head as the minions of the donors continue to rob us. Trumps win if nothing else highlighted a the democratic voters naked distaste for business as usual. Being corporate neo liberal 'centrist' as they have been is about to get much harder. I would argue their days are numbered. Even dumping huge money into contested primaries is less and less effective for them.
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  680.  @MarcDeBenedetto  Please do not apologize for saying the truth. We completely agree.
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  681.  @Vanderearden  we are in the shape we are in because we are creating something from scratch against an entrenched but unpopular but powerful formerly unchallenged establishment. You look at Bernie's efforts and see failure. I see the birth of something brand new that can only get stronger. I do not see the squad as co-opted even if they had some votes I would not have made. I am not voting for perfection but leaders that are primarily beholden to voters and not the donor class. It seems to me you have given up too fast and have assessed the situation in a cyincal and I would argue a counter productive way.
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  682.  @Vanderearden  Their voting record despite any hiccups is not the failure you seem to see. I see litterally no upside in your spin and question your take on the situation as it does not match my relatively informed one. It seems pretty hyperbolic but hey you of course are entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to make up facts, it is your interpretation of the facts at hand that I question. I do think the system can be changed from the inside. That we have not manged to in 4 short years should not surprise anyone. I do understand your cyinism, I once shared it. No longer as I see something to fight for and see no reason to throw my hands up yet.
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  683.  @Vanderearden  So they should not have voted for the cares act and that would help how? Do tell how they voting for the only from of stimulus (even if pathetic and weak) that was going to be passed when it was going to pass anyway is some kind of fail. As you talk about them re-upping the patriot act you ignore the fact it was crammed inside the budget and not only did the squad fight it they were one of the ten who voted against the resolution adding it. They fought it's inclusion and opposed the measure. It passed because they did not have enough support to remove it. The failure was not theirs and there was nothing they could have done to stop it. To say they voted for re-uping it is technically true but they represented the only opposition to the blanket support for the measure form corporate democrats. I have a hard time seeing that as anything but a numbers fail, it was not an abdication of what they said they would do. The issue is not they have the same problem as the establishment democrats as you tacitly assert with your spin. It is that the shills and sellouts still control the process and dump whatever they want into bills and their agenda has little to do with ours. Do you honestly think if the squad or Bernie was driving the patriot act would have been included? We would have passed such a weak and pathetic stimulus? The squad has not sold out they just do not have enough power to drive the bus as you seem to expect them to. I do not support bad votes but I look at them in context and attempt to see where they come from instead of choosing the most hyperbolic and defeatist spin out there. Like I said earlier, I never questioned your "facts", just your interpretation of them. Your characterization of the squad enthusiastically embracing establishment is empty from what I can see. They still seem the be hated and and all were primarieried with big donor money and none are speaking at the convention. So much for endorsement that does not exist. When you say silly stuff like they are carrier politicians you are using republican talking points and that is almost never a good thing. This spin ignores the many good polices they push or how they have moved the overton window back from the edge of a right wing cliff in a very short time. You are pointing at problems whose real focus is built on the total lack of control the progressives have in government. That they are forced to vote for bills set by leaders who do not and never will share our values will mean garbage gets pushed in. That being said you are treating them like they are all Joe Manson or queen Nancy herself and I see it as unfounded and border line dishonest spin. Happy to stay in touch, I find your brand cynicism honest and refreshing. It comes from the right place, but I no longer share it.
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  684. Deeply stupid spin, Pretending bidden who is a 90's republican is the leader of radicals is silly. Buying this nonsense makes you look simple.
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  685. There is only one valid side to his comments, you are a stain and support him or not.
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  686. Every where there is any number of cons you have a pile of snowflakes
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  687.  @androidsam3368  Thank you I think, calling out blindly partisan morons has value across the board.
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  688. @Porter Deep animus against Trump is balancing out his rabid supporters. I dislike Biden but I loathe Trump. There are plenty of people like me who want to see the orange man baby gone.
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  689.  @lilbit5557  I think you misunderstood my post. Socialism is misrepresented by the GOP as authoritarian communism. America's brand of socialism is directly attached to democracy which the republicans hate.
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  690. If they cheat Bernie and pick the republican to run against trump it will destroy the party. I and millions of voters will give a finger to the idea of vote blue no matter who if Bloomberg is the candidate. I never voted republican and will not start this cycle.
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  691. Like those idiot surgeons who protect their patients with them. Speaking of sheep, might want to get some sheering done your hair is in your eyes.
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  692. The fact is if we do not accurately report our numbers I am not sure why we expect them to. True or not it is on them. Saying you do not have many cases does not make them go away, ask Trump he proved that.
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  693. This guy says socialized medicine like it is as pejorative is polishing the brass on the titanic. Catch up buddy because your talking points are so 2014 and make you look out of touch and dishonest. Time to get a job as a republican operative because clowns with spin this weak no longer belong in a modern democratic party or as a representative of us.
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  694.  @TheEbonicslover  Nonsense, this is an idiot talking point written by actual parasites who get bailouts and roll in government contractions while buying our leaders. The real parasites are the corrupt clowns who pay think tanks to dupe people against their own interests using talking points like this that attack fellow workers instead of looking at the rot streaking in from the top down.
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  695.  @My2Cents91  your spin on the lock down is idiotic. The entire planet shut down and pretending it was some kind of democratic fail is brain dead. If you want to elect asshole's who have proved they would kill your family for a dollar vote gop.
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  696.  @DarkMysteriousObject  We are there, the reason the movement is working because we are see a light at the end of dark tunnel.
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  697. Sure why not, but I do not think they were as egregious as this clown was. He drew attention to himself as he was not even trying to hide his corruption.
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  698. Get on those reditors, heaven knows you are never looking at the short selling manipulators.
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  699. So basically the republicans without the overt racism and appeals to fascism.
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  700.  @williamwhite9767  Completely opposite, the death in the US can not be counted as covid unless they have tested positively. This means a great many people who can not be tested are counted.
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  701. Libertarians work for big business in the US, no one else. The movement is coopted by oligarchs to promote their interests. There is nothing principled about it.
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  702. There is no leverage to be had.
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  703.  @serge263  Agree. She openly states she is an incrementalist, I laud her honesty at least.
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  704. People do not hate ambitious plans, they are sick and tired of the do nothing centrism that has seen our voter participation fall to embarrassing levels. We need to be engaging new voters not pandering to "likely" voters cited in these polls. When republicans appeal to their base no one says that is a mistake when the democrats do so in service them you will get useless pundits saying that is a bad thing. Time to ignore these centrists clowns and fight for what we want. Go Bernie!
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  705.  @maryrowell1122  look at how they are funded. If funded by their voters choose them, if they are corporate shills choose the least fascist one.
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  706. Tulsi can go away, I welcome Yang's voice.
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  707.  @stephansmith3570  She was not particularly popular despite her fans love of her. She is deeply inconsistent and at this point untrustworthy. I liked her until her own on the campaign choices made me reevaluate my support. I see no reason to choosing another unpredictable Trojan horse as our banner bearer going forward. I am happy to see her in her current role, I do no longer support her for leadership.
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  708.  @stephansmith3570  I saw literal inconsistency and and a hedging and then abandonment of core ideals over her campaign which I followed closely (I did like her). I am not a black and white guy, I appreciate nuance but that is not what she offered me. I saw her pander to nonsense and abandon core policy like M4A when it started off as a corner stone. I know there is an establishment narrative against her, that is not attached to any of my concerns about her many of which the media did not even talk about.
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  709.  @stephansmith3570  Sounds like we hunger for the exact same thing. I would like to think you are correct and there is path built on integrity we can use to walk out of this swamp we find ourselves in. The root of our problem is both leaderships are distracted by donor money. People are justifiably angry at feeling left behind as we are. That anger is being misdirected at one side or another when in fact we should all be looking up at those who led us here. We need to find a new voice that speaks honestly to a way forward based on the needs of Americans and not just donor prosperity.
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  710. This argument that a centrist is the way to win is entirely betrayed by Hillary's loss. These people have to stop pretending centrists win. I see no reason why I choosing another republican like hillary will be a winning move.
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  711. If you want to nationalize things like twitter and apply the first amendment to them I am with that. As it stands please know as long as they are private entities they have the right to silence any speech they do not like on their platform just like could in your in your home by ejecting someone who was saying things you do not like. I am fine treating mega corporations differently than we treat people but that is not the standard our corporately controlled government has set.
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  712. It fits with the stupid theme they are going with. They pretend she is a communist and that she hates capitalism. This is a joke targeted at morons who do not understand any of the pollical terms they use.
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  713. Everyone who did this should b e charged. He is being singled out because what he did was egregious and he did not even try to hide it.
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  714. So Trump then.
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  715.  Mary Boyle  Loser!
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  716. They typically call that assault.
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  717. Only a delay, there is no path to trump taking them.
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  718.  @dashx1103  She was never progressive. Pretending she is why the word loses meaning.
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  719.  @briandwiggins1576  You do not care what the truth is. Your blind subservience to your leader has no analog on the non corporate left.
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  720.  @web-angel  True but their numbers are not as large as Trump needs. In fact he sheds more support daily as it becomes clear he is captain of this dumpster fire and he doubles down on bad ideas. Toxic ignorance is their go to move and a last arrow in a nearly empty quiver.
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  721.  @Koitus36  No one got 1200 a week halfwit.
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  722.  @kathyde1906  Fitch lowered thier rate from AA+ to AAA. Standard & Poor’s and Moody’s still give Canadian debt the highest rating, and they told Reuters they had nothing at this time to add beyond their latest reports. We lost our AAA rating because of republican debt ceiling shenanigans a long time ago. Their economy is not in free fall ours is. Seniors got a $300 premium on top of pensions while the government guaranteed your job if you got sick and had to self isolate while paying your way. We handed 4 trillion to the rich and spent far more than they did per-capita and are in way worse shape financially. You are ignorant or dishonest and it amounts to distinction without a difference.
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  723.  @Spittin_Bars  Unless you are rich and then it is socialist as they tend to bail you out every 8 years or so while cutting your taxes drastically.
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  724. It is is not effective against Covid. It has nothing to do with Covid at all. Not getting sick is a matter of your exposure not what you have done.
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  725. Or trump going out and lying every single day. Trump is cancer and has overseen the largest number of deaths per capita in the free world. You may consider that a win but to those who actually care about life it is NOT. Trump has been attacked in a weak way by the media who ignore his actual failures, they are complicit. Why give anyone credit for overt failure?
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  726. @Swamp Yankee They need to do both.
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  727.  @humblehalfacre8464  Why not? This is well within the wheel house of some of these dopey clowns.
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  728.  @FinnaRealtawk2323  All fake news, got it. Get your head back into the bubble we have way too much oxygen out here for you. Being called a "retard" by likes of self important halfwits like you is always amusing. Thanks for the smile
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  729.  @mickpratt8327  Because they typically do. There is a large contingent of jobs within the presidents staff. Senior and many middle level campaign staffers of even incumbent politicians regularly find work within a winning leaders team. The point of this story is they are looking for jobs when if they expected to win that would not widely be the case.
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  730. Why?
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  731. Looking for jobs before the campaign is over is not a good sign and is worth reporting on.
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  732. They only care about imaginary democratic pedophiles, not the real thing.
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  733. Vote for whatever you have to but our democracy is actually up for grabs this time. I hate Biden too but choose him as the monster I will oppose as I can not abide another term of this sick man baby. At least with Biden his base agrees with me and that makes it an easy place to stand as I pick the ground I wish to fight on. Either way stay safe.
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  734.  @katrinagarrett9612  no they are not. That is the problem they are not yet viable.
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  735. @Mightyquest Starchaser not even kind if true. That may have been a valid point in 2106 when we had not seen him on power but that illusion is gone. Trump is the exact same kind of sellout as Biden but also nakedly appeals to bigots and flirts with ending democracy. Both assholes are bad but Biden not trump is the one to oppose as at least Bidens base pulls the correct way. The gop deserves more punishment than the dems do. The establishment democrats are failures but that is no reason to support the gop which is worse in every single way. I choose not who I support but who I oppose and make a tactical vote for Biden as Trump is proven had core liar and failure.
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  736. What mandates are you talking about? Safe bet you would clap and cheer if speech you dislike was banned.
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  737. @TRAILER PARK MESSIAH We always thought it was, that is why we stopped you clowns from trying to ban anything you did not like. The right has always loved to censor and pretending otherwise ignores history. Pointing at a couple of blue haired kids as the left does not really fly.
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  738. Time to cancel him because he is denying reality, some one should pull that corporates clowns twitter account as he is spreading disinformation. Is that not the standard now?
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  739. Add another one then, we already have the least holidays in the free world.
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  740. The fact is they are greatly understating the number of deaths because anyone who is not tested covid positive and dies it is assumed they died of the flu, they are not included in the covid count. Whole rest homes have perished with none of the numbers added do to lack of testing.
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  741.  @jackryan239  To this day we do not have enough tests to do a real and accurate count even if they actually wanted to.
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  742.  @jackryan239  The rights thing is bullshit, the idea that a demand for social distancing is a meaningful attack on your rights is wrong headed and poorly thought out. Please explain how this is a wealth transfer in the same way that the 08 crash was, explain how this is worse?
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  743. Or he wanted to lose it. They would have passed stimulus if they cared.
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  744.  @Fuzzybeanerizer  The idea they care about giving money to only those who need it is betrayed by how they bail out the rich any time they get the chance.
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  745. How is this protecting them?
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  746. The fact is she said she would take pac money in the general. Tear her up on that, if may even get her to change at worst.
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  747. Should not be an issue, I have not heard Bernie describing the billionaire as his "friend"
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  748. You define the word far in a far different way than the sane do.
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  749. Am not worried. I like the idea of a gop who can only win in deep red states. It opens the door to put the actual left against the corporate dems.
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  750.  @prblmchild83  Pretty pointless advice to the man on the street given he never made those calls and it was done at the top levels by both parties. Your advice is of limited value and probably to the wrong people. Not sure how looking at the mirror will help us much.
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  751. The owner class has no interest in that. It was attempted earlier and did not end up flying because the channel was never widely adopted by cable providers and therefor had a hard time getting penetration. This news is relegated to the internet for now until this hurdle can be overcome. Good news is it is growing despite it's access limitations and will continue to going forward.
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  752. He is flanking Biden, Not Bernie whose policy is undeniably better.
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  753.  T0nyMc716  He is no where near Bernie! More left than Bernie? Come on, you do not really think that?
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  754.  T0nyMc716  It is a joke but it is better than what we had before. The fact is the GOP has done nothing but make it worse and they have no plan to replace it which is not far far worse.
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  755. That is what the GOP said when trump crushed their hand picked weak choices. Have a look at history and see how that worked out.
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  756.  @MrAdamNTProtester  They are weak and have no head start. They have nothing to stop Bernie this time. They will be no more capable in stopping the insurgent from winning than the GOP was.
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  757.  @fortusvictus8297  You need to pull you head out of the ass of the right which pretends everything they do not like is on the left. The attempt to run from owning the Nazis is hilarious spin from the right.
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  758. Ya not sure that debate performance helped his plan at all.
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  759. You can, rent the movie Friday.
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  760. So what you are saying is they the democratic voters are paying attention this time.
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  761. It is Interesting that people like you only are concerned about election fraud when people you do not like win.
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  762.  @gbmassu  ?
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  763. Throw the book at them! All of them!
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  764. Depends on who you are, for the 85% who live hand to mouth a comfortable living (upper middle class) in the 85-95% group is still rich compared to them. The top 5% got 80% of the taxes benefits. That is money going to the richest who literally do not need it.
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  765.  @BAGELMENSK  No they are just ripe to be beaten and taken over by the same base they spit on for donor money.
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  766.  @marlonbryanmunoznunez3179  Giving up before the fight is over may be a good option for you but I choose to count my wins and move forward. The establishment ignores policy popular with the base, that is new vulnerability which will be their undoing when facing challengers who offer an option and paint them as the corporate centered radicals they are.
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  767.  @Bmac2324  Why?
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  768. This inside trading billioniare fembot hacking anyone for a trust fund is spin for morons.
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  769. That is what we have had for the last 30 years. Why would anyone suggest that this as a good system? She is literally arguing for oligarchy.
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  770. @PromethiusIOI You are projecting, that you do not care about anyone else does not mean everyone is as anti social as you are. I do care about others and their loved ones getting sick and if you were not broken you would too. All masks do is help prevent spread, they are not a magic bullet. The best defense is staying out of large groups of people and limiting your contact to as few as you can. With spin as bad as yours that you ever call anyone a dingus is more of that projection I talked about earlier.
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  771. @PromethiusIOI That you care about no one but yourself does not mean everyone is as broken as you are. Projecting your innate failure onto me is empty bullshit. Just so you know, there are people who care about others. There is a medical term for those with your condition, psychopathy can be treated.
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  772. @PromethiusIOI Wearing a mask is part of how I show I care. My actions are not limited to talking about it. The fact is I do care about other people who are concerned for others as I have a thing called empathy. T You are correct in one way, I am not remotely like Jesus and not everyone is included in my concern. I do not shed any tears when selfish assholes like you who Darwin award themselves out of the gene pool after getting sick by ignoring we have a pandemic.
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  773. @PromethiusIOI I am not sure how much training you think one needs to wear a cloth mask, but then I am not special needs like you appear to be. Even if some morons do not know how to use a washing machine and are wearing a dirty mask poorly it still helps everyone.
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  774. @PromethiusIOI Even the halfwits wearing their masks under their nose like chin diapers are better than those same morons without a mask. That at least prevents some of the covid particles that spew from their asymptomatic open gobs. When you know how dumb they are it should be clear they need definitive guidance or they will never do the right thing that is in all our best interests. Even their failure to use masks properly would be better than giving up on the idea entirely because we have too many simpletons.
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  775.  @josemora9477 Not everyone. There are a bunch that if they suffered it might be called justice.
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  776.  @josemora9477  not a feet to be better than you. Anyone with basic humanity does that over yoh
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  777. These people have no principles, I am not surprised at all and frankly I am cool with him doing so no matter what the reason is.
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  778. What does that mean to you? There are a couple camps of Rino's now depending on your perspective.
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  779. They need to hit anyone attached to this. There has been too much partisan application of law by both parties and it needs to stop. We need get all the criminals out and stop backing them up for political expedience.
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  780. I have no idea what kind of moron supports Bloomberg because he bought a bunch of ads.
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  781. See you guys. Bye hill
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  782.  @baloneysaucejohnson8747  Most are in agreement that both parties are owned by the highest bidder. It is not their similarities but differences that shine out to me. I liked that Trump dusted the TPP too. Did not like he included most of it's provisions in his new NAFTA agreement or that he pushes to re-brand the same TPP deal and push it though with some additional changes that would not make it better. His couple of good calls that he seems to want to overturn do not make up for his many many terrible failures and overt and unrepentant corruption. Am no fan of Biden and never will be, but he is the only choice between him and Trump. Economically they are similar but Biden is held in check by his "centrist" base when trump is emboldened by his bigoted radical one.
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  783. Having Joe say he does not support you should be a feather in any democrats cap.
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  784. Why do they pretend there are no consequences for rioting? Rioters are called criminals and are arrested, they go to jail. They are not cops that enjoy some kind of blanket protection when they break the law.
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  785. Against what? This is a comedian making money.
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  786. Agree this election has come down to who I want to fight.
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  787.  @searose6192  The democrats will have no choice. There will be a primary, it is in stone.
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  788. Just talking about current events. Rudy getting punked, counts.
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  789. Betting not, just rip away another holiday. They hate we have any.
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  790. They did say he won big, what are you implying? What are you wondering?
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  791.  @wavestherules558  They did win big, that you do not like the government and make shit up to vilify in the establishments interest does not make you look informed, it makes you look like a dupe. Go watch regular establishment media (your brand seems like fox) if you want your custom built bias fed. The people are happy they are not being run by installed right wing nut job who has proven they do not care if the people live or die.
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  792.  @wavestherules558  What about her? She was attacked by opposition protesters who hated the election? So? That some morons still want to be ruled by dictators does not mean this is not a win for the country. That the fascists still have people on the streets does not make the win a bad thing.
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  793. I think he wedged the word color in there ... we will see.
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  794.  @NaLa1  Expect very little of him and he is still better than Trump, damn that is bad news.
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  795. Be probably for the best as we would hear a lot less of him. Either they add notes to his fact free tweets or he shuts them down and does not make them. I am fine either way.
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  796. The swamp has been made into a lake. Kicking back to a non Donald version of corruption again means we may go back to having just a swamp instead of a body of dirty monster filled water.
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  797. Just as long as it is not an overt lie in itself. This clown was fact checking while going hard core Pinocchio
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  798. They are no worse than the GOP which is now openly embracing fascism. The corporates clowns leading the Dems need to be replaced, they chase the same donor money that owns the GOP.
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  799.  @kkay3784  And now maybe Trump who has shown connotative decline.
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  800. Do you honestly find the idea of him ordering this guy's death is a stretch?
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  801. Which is bizarrely better than Trump. How far we have fallen.
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  802.  @jstreets1983  Voter shaming is stupid. Everyone should vote their conscience and shaming someone to vote for someone they hate never changed a mind anyway. I am not voting for Biden as an act of support but as choice of who to oppose as only one of the two will win. Anyway be safe out there.
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  803. She has been validated by the courts and given whistle blower protection status. You can believe Dansantis, he clearly has no reason to lie!
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  804. That is key, the idea we have unlimited hospital beds is not well founded. 10% of the people need care that means we need to ensure capacity of our system in case everyone gets the same idea at the same time. Oh and be slightly concerned that some receive permanent lung damage from it .. I know that would bug me as a under 35 year old but it is their lungs not mine.
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  805. We all need more, the fact is we are all ripped off compared to other first world nations and get nothing compared to them. We all need more holidays not less.
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  806.  @jstreets1983  Well it is, hillary did not consider it voter shaming either. She was wrong too. He has lied about nothing, your spin is the spin of a dishonest media element who always were against Bernie.
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  807.  @jstreets1983  Your standard what ever it is has no value to me. I am not blindly following anyone but I am not hating the only American leader in modern history to give us a path from innate corruption either. That he supports Biden over Trump is a no brainer and anyone that says it is not never valued what Bernie was doing anyway. I see your spin as entirely valueless unless you seeking to promote status and empower the groups you seem to be opposing. Do you but I could not disagree wit h your spin more even as we should ostensibly agree on a great deal.
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  808.  @-Thunder  He also promised to build a wall (and have Mexico pay for it), give us universal health care, pull out of Iraq, end nafta when he basically renegotiated the same deal with no meaningful change while including provisions he pretended to oppose in TPP, Etc, etc. Trump is a hard fail on almost every metric or promise he mad. Ignoring that truth does not make it go away. He did nothing with big pharma and they are ripping us even more than when he came in with 10 million fewer people with insurance. The changes to improve the VA were already in place before he took over and he did practically nothing to fix it.
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  809.  @jstreets1983  You did not show me anything. Please find me an example of a politician that did not lie about anything. Your standard is bizarre and out of touch with reality.
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  810.  @jstreets1983  You are the one that has a standard that he is a fail because of some asserted lie you did not share. Who do you support that does not lie? Just interested. You have a perspective that is different than mine I would like to understand. That is how those of us actually in favor of ideas communicate. Calling people crazy simply because they disagree with you is very very republican, good luck with that.
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  811.  @Greendalewitch  We are in full agreement Bernie was the spark. That he was not as aggressive as I would like does not negate his importance or what he has done that is no going away after him. I would have liked to have seen him push for more too, I would have liked him to fight harder in the primary. None of that changes the service he did us. I refuse to reject him as some who once supported him did because he did not put us across the finish line. I respect him for teaching a new way to run and showing us a path that will lead to our eventual victory.
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  812.  @jstreets1983  I would assume we agree on something, but since you are acting evasive and not sharing what you think other vitriolic tirades on Bernie I may be wrong. I am cool with that, it me costs little to extend someone the benefit of the doubt until they no longer deserve it. Attacking me for imagining you might have a point under your silly spin or a honest basis for your thoughts is a mistake you seem pretty happy you are correcting me on. Good for you!
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  813.  @jstreets1983  You say nothing that is relevant anyway and are not interested in actual conversations. Your attempt to frame the conversation dishonestly is noted. If you can not defend your own arbitrary selectively applied standards like rejecting liars you are empty in your criticism. You have betrayed what you are and it is clear for anyone who reads the thread to see it.
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  814.  @AlCapwnd-tb5ow  They are sufficiently suppressed.
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  815. Blackmail? He is making movie where he punks someone. Is pretty funny actually.
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  816. Probably not, but then they do not appear to be trying very hard.
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  817. After he is out of office, that may be the new normal.
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  818. A significant number of "super delegates" will vote with Sanders. The proposed plan to rob him would have to get every single delegate from the other contestants and then a plurality of the "super delegates", It is not clear there will be enough contesting delegates will even be avail. We will knows the face of it after this next round in SC. Even if Sanders is a close second this is over. Their stealing the nomination is a pipe dream. #Berie2020
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  819. You are mischaracterizing the policy, but that is what you guys do.
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  820. He should never be forgiven for the irrefutable damage he has done. His name should always be associated with corruption.
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  821. No one but Rudy has.
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  822.  @JasonSvoboda  Silly defense of a pretty bizarre thing to do in front of a stranger.
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  823. Not the same thing ... just because both issues are primarily respiratory does not mean they are connected.
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  824. They do not treat Bernie as a contender why would anyone expect them to treat Yang that way?
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  825. Sasha has been doing it for long time.
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  826. This attack on guns is weak and no one is going to pick up Bernie supporters on that one issue which drives as many people away as drawing them in. In fact attacking him on guns in this way may make him appeal more broadly to rural and southern voters.
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  827. Rudy looked silly, part of the story.
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  828. Bernie owes them no fundraising at all, they are lucky he is as nice as he is to them after the brutal hit job they did on both him and his voters.
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  829. Corporate shills lap it up, these assholes singing his praises are right wingers and loathe the actual left who has always seen Bolton for what he is.
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  830. She is already done. Progressives are not about cheer blood sports of people they like. Warren came out looking bad because we care about the issues and this identity garbage does not fly. She appealed to Clinton voters but we all know there are not a great many of those who were not just holding their nose.
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  831.  @JH-ci7gu  Not convicted .. does not sound like the cops gave him much time to confess before they retributioned him out of existence. Be good to see the body cam footage of the entire event including said confession don't you think?
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  832. We have bee n the United Corporations of America for a long time.
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  833. Their cred is long gone.
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  834. Or a socialist!
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  835. Because they are owned by the same assholes as the GOP.
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  836. They really have to stop complaining about anyone else putting their finger on the scale when they can not help themselves.
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  837. Her endorsement is not welcome anyway. He would be better served if she publicly announced not to vote for him. It would give him more earned cred.
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  838. We all should have these days off. Paid. That is what the rest of the world does.
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  839.  @arashkhosrowshahi6903  I payed attention and kept my distance but good works of the past gave her cred others never earned. She is hard core mask off now and there is no putting it back in the bottle this time.
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  840. Trump lost, there is no recount outstanding that could change the election now. There is no path for Trump to win anymore, NONE. This has been a public service to prevent you from saying silly things in public going forward. Cheers
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  841. This was about a democratically elected left leaning government, why do you hate democracy?
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  842. Your entire screed is nonsense. The fact is trump tried to say that very thing not that anyone took him seriously. Evo legally changed some rules and was forced out by a campaign that has been proven to be scurrilous in effort by a foreign power to replace his government for a more lucrative access to their resources at the behest of multinationals. Falling back on tired drug war spin is empty bullshit and a proven failure that only empowers the criminals you pretend to oppose like all prohibition does.
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  843.  @gostavoadolfos2023  If you say so .. I do not think it is suicide and approve of it as bold. He was never going to get the votes for the clowns who hate migrates or a path to solving the open wound that is the problem anyway.
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  844.  @Nunyabusiness40  Shrug, if you say so. You support who you want to and I will do the same. I am not sure how picking the guy most likely to win hurts us but whatever ...
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  845. They are just reporting what is going to happen. Close your eyes and avoid the news til December if you want to skip forward. The AP does the EXACT SAME THING every single election.
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  846.  @dodioxoopey8843  The dif in this case is they are not blaming nameless Russians who will never see court. There was enough evidence in those cases there were charges laid against the hackers even if they will never see trial. Criminal charges. As for trump there was a great deal of evidence he was associated with the Russians. 4 of his staff went to jail for various lies or crimes they committed on his behalf that surfaced as a result of the investigation. Because the GOP chose to forgo their oaths and let Trump walk scot free does not mean there was no there there. Trumps cronies attempted to say the voting machine manufactures rigged the election. Making that claim has fallout and is liable if false. These corps care about their ability to continue to prosper more than rigging any election. Conflating what the the Sydney Powel said about this election and what was done post 2016 where actual charges were laid does not make sense. In one case they had enough evidence to proceed in court, in 2020 they never never did. Like I said we will see either way as they sue Sydney and she defends herself with evidence or she is ruined. Anyone who did what Trump did would be banned off any service with a TOS. Starting a riot is considered bad everywhere. Big tech is about making money, not politics. They silence the actual economic left as much as targeted groups on right and every time it is to protect profits and advertising. Look at any choice they ever make as financial and you will better understand their motivations. No one is silencing anyone, actually Trump still has more free speech than either of us. He can call a press conference any time. He has no right to anyone's service just like I have no right to use your backyard without your permission Even the standard actual free speech in the 1st has distinct limits. I can not yell fire in a crowded theater and neither can Trump.
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  847.  Matt's Right  Still have a to have a case halfwit, when you have no evidence and go to court it is way different than lying on TV.
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  848. We should be impeaching Trump but not for trump trying to dig up dirt on Biden. We should be impeaching him for breaking the emoluments clause taking over payments in hotels while selling arms to the Saudis who pay him while helping with their genocide in Yemen.
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  849. We will elect our own leaders here, you can then rush off to some tax free hell hole dictatorship you crave.
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  850.  @CelticSpiritsCoven  I have much more evidence against Trump than he has for accusing Biden. Trumps lawyer is ALREADY IN JAIIL! Trump has not even said what crime Biden broke You have no idea what innuendo means and only apply that standard to those you like a partisan npc.
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  851.  @CelticSpiritsCoven  i never said about anything to do with russia. I listed a whole bunch of other crimes and l never mentioned Russia once. Talking to you clowns is like speaking to a bad computer program with very limited answers to simple questions.
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  852.  @CelticSpiritsCoven  His personal lawyer is in jail on a convicted crime he is unnamed-coconspirator on. You need to get your head out of your ass as you overlook that and demand Biden be arrested. I have a question for you: Are you dumb enough to think that Joe Biden is any kind socialist or has any socialist polices? Biden is a 90''s republican, wake up.
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  853. Silly, this is a comedian making a movie where he punks gullible goons. It has nothing to do with the dead in the water Hunter story only bubble fanatics that were never voting for joe anyway care about.
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  854. Except she was just given whistle blower status ... Validating her. Stay tuned!
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  855. And it is has been a mainstay of the right for decades, abortion, gun rights, religious nonsense, anti gay rights . They were the original snow flakes.
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  856. We are really sure you were saying the same things about court houses a few months back.
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  857. No one likes their insurance company, we all live in fear they will not pay when we need them and it will cost us an arm and a leg even if we have insurance. We like our doctors and would be happy to see the insurance companies no longer make a nickle of blood money.
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  858. They need them more than ever to do anything, a disciplined caucus is a path to power.
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  859.  @TheMrssanderson  He did not lie and say any such thing. The Russian's DID interfere in our election (so did the Koch brothers and Emily's List) and there is no telling how much difference they made. We should be concerned about any specific group but especially other countries trying to influence who gets elected. We should not ignore Russia's actions just as we should not ignore the DNC rigging the primaries and their continued attempt to do so in excluding Tulsi from the last debate. Bernie is not complicit with the failures of the DNC/Clinton and painting him as such is ignorant or dishonest. That he supported crooked Clinton over uber crooked Trump is a no brainer especially if he wanted to influence policy and the platform which he did. Your spin painting him as a liar is empty and poorly thought out. I actually like a lot of what Tulsi has to offer and expect her voice to grow stronger in future cycles. But this primary is for Bernie, the only one with a vision, credibility and plan for systemic change we desperately need. Once that effort is started leaders like Tulsi (with more experience and a longer track record) can come in to take over after that change is under way.. She will be in a prime position to do so with the credibility she is earning today.
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  860.  Ben Ghazi  Bernie did not lie .. the fact is he has been consistent on policy his whole carrier. That he spoke out against the Russian interface in our election is not the fail you pretend it is. He was the one wronged by the DNC last election and went on to fight for their crooked mess because she was better than the garbage dump we got. Calling him a liar is ignorant or dishonest spin for people who never liked him anyway and are grasping for even nonsensical justification to do so. News flash: the Russians did interfere and they were not working on behalf of Hillary, this is in evidence. I am not sure what the big "lie" you attack him with is.
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  861.  Ben Ghazi  Sorry I do stand corrected. You of course are correct and attacking Bernie as dishonest is nonsense counter factual framing.
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  862.  @TheMrssanderson  I did not forget to mention it do not deny it but that Ruth is irrelevent to my point. I don't support my government influencing other elections either. none of that implicates Bernie. No one honest thinks that Russia is.the only reason she lost but there are good reasons to think they did influence the election. your denial of reality does not make it go away. Hillary was a weak candidate that pandered to the donors and spat on half her base. Bernie is not her and pretending otherwise is deeply ignorant.
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  863.  @sohandesai4055  I do not think the progressives have enough power to force change. This is why I do not criticize Bernie for his choices as vociferously as some when he does not force a vote or play hard ball as some demand. That being said Bernie is moving the dial. His efforts are consistently more popular among the democratic base than establishment spin. He is growing the movement and recruiting people outside the groups you identify. The idea he pushes the establishment toward the republicans is silly. If there is anyway they establishment dems can run toward the republicans they do not need the excuse of Bernie's intransigence to to do it. They are already inclined to even if they get no republican support for the effort. They have proved this over and and over. The idea that establishment sellouts know or care what voters who are not big bernie fans want is empty nonsense. The establishment does not care about anyone but the donors and any voters supporting them over Bernie is doing so out of ignorance. They are contributing to the problem and empowering the GOP.
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  864.  @nfirest  No one of note supports antifa, they are a bunch of angry powerless kids who hate nazis, like most people. They have nothing to do with communism. No Ideology, no funding, no membership, no charter, no leadership. What is there to support? When you pretend BLM is communist it betrays you have no idea what the word means, you have been overtly lied to. I see the murder of our citizens at the hands of our officials as a critical problem that need to be addressed. That is what BLM is about. The naked silly strawman you lay at BLM's feet are in defense of the a senseless tyranny you pretend to oppose when convenient. The democrats are run by the most centrist republican we have seen since GB senior. They are stolid incremtalists. they plan nothing but token changes to placate protesters. They work for the donors just like the gop and trump does. Biden hates his left leaning base as much as you do for many of the same reasons. Look at the man's record, he is known for some of the most draconian laws on the books. Pretending he is handing the keys to antifa is silly.
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  865. The idea it is planned is poorly thought out. Never attribute to malfeasance that which can be attributed to incompetence and ignorance.
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  866. While trump openly denands media oppoenets are arrested this panic in defense of nazi's and undermining votung though lies is dishonest nonsense If you think hin defending our elections is bad and opoosing hate speech is wrong you are an antidemocractic part of the problem. This guy empowers a horrible camcer in our siciety.
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  867.  @charlietuna1971 Strange argument, no one advocated for riots or "trial by combat" over the summer and your false equivancy is very very telling and speaks to a partisan blind spot and the disgusting media you consume. No one support ANTIFA, just an FYI. You think they were widely supported by the left because you have been lied to over and over. The only thing ANTIFA who are leaderless, unfunded, unorganized group have in common with the left is they hate Nazi's. BLM is an organization that fights to stop cops from murdering citizens. You may thing that is a fail but THEY DO NOT PROMOTE VIOLENCE despite what the liars you like tell you. They are about stopping violence and ignoring that truth makes you stupid spin a lie. I saw the left consistently decry the violence of any riots, it is pretty much expect I do not see the same from ignorant partisan's who hate the like you.
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  868. Who is going to put him jail? Trump has multiple rape accusations too, none of these assholes are going to prison over those change.
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  869. Actually they are, the polls last election were within the margin of error. It is partisan establishment news sources who are not good at predicting result from them not a problem with polls.
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  870. He got a ton of spin from the media that pumped him up.
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  871. The event industry is taking beating world wide. Such as the nature of a pandemic.
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  872. The fact is we have not elected enough non owned leaders yet to replace her. We are about to hit a tipping point where it is hard to run as a corporate democrat.
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  873. They are literally paid not to look. The DNC party is the party paid to lose to a cancerous gop by spitting on half it's base.
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  874.  @stevemack7110  and assorted vermin.
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  875. He is wrong about everything!
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  876. The republicans are the only voters sellouts Biden and Hillary really want, makes sense as it a constituency that seems to not care about corruption at all.
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  877. This is a reflection of how afraid of their base they are, nothing else. The dems are no worse than the GOP on this.
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  878. Was the problem that there was nothing to the "Russia gate" garbage or that it was overblown and there was never any intention to prosecute it fully anyway? What the narrative really did was give the corporate dems cover to show they were opposing the GOP while really supporting key initiatives that are driven to by their respective corporate and lobbyist masters. Continued corporate welfare and giveaways to the rich while they push feckless assertions they never intend to fully prosecute to cover for policy like bailouts and tax cuts for the rich that both corporate owned parties have bipartisanly supported. Russia gate was not a "hoax", it was based on valid concerns that were never going to be pursued to their logical conclusions because of how the same scrutiny fully applied would hit leadership in both parties.
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